Boo Hoo, New Hampshire! Sucks to Be You.

 

It’s just hilarious to hear the weeping and teeth-gnashing from NH about the DNC changing their primary order. The NH delegate to the DNC rules committee went on and on about how NH was known for “retail politics,” where the candidates had to deal with voters face to face.  It was important to really be able to see what the candidates are made of.

Hogwash! The reason NH has clung to its first-in-the-nation status is because those folks luuuuuve the fact that every four years the candidates have to hike up there in the snow, genuflect, kneel down, and lick the boots of the guy that owns Harry’s Deli, the woman who owns Sally’s Bakery, etc., etc.  What an ego trip!  And they might get on national news asking some candidate a really tough question.  National news!!!

And while we’re at it – Iowa Caucuses.  They are basically a test of which candidate has supporters who are the most bull-headed and have the largest bladders.  Those folks can outlast the other candidates’ supporters at the local high school gym where they meet and be the last to go home, thereby winning that precinct’s caucus for their guy.  So….nothing to do with who the voters of Iowa might actually prefer.

I think the primary calendars should rotate each cycle.  Give every region a chance to be first.

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  1. Tex929rr Coolidge
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    I absolutely agree.  The 2008 nominating period was very interesting in that it went so far before BHO had it locked up.  The candidates actually had to campaign in places they would typically ignore.  A rotating schedule would be great.

    Last week I heard a news story where some Iowa official promised they would move their caucus to the prior year to ensure they were first.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Tex929rr (View Comment):

    I absolutely agree. The 2008 nominating period was very interesting in that it went so far before BHO had it locked up. The candidates actually had to campaign in places they would typically ignore. A rotating schedule would be great.

    Last week I heard a news story where some Iowa official promised they would move their caucus to the prior year to ensure they were first.

    Before we know it, the 2024 candidates will have been campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire back in 2006.

     

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  3. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Great idea!

    Rotate the caucuses and let other states have a chance.

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Great idea!

    Rotate the caucuses and let other states have a chance.

    If that means rotating through all 50 states, each state would only be first each 200 years.

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  5. MarciN Member
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    I think it’s sad. It has always been a fun time in New Hampshire, and I want to see some fun stay in politics. It’s good for civic engagement, which never happens by itself.

    I don’t know why the Democrats are doing this except I’m paranoid enough to think that they are trying to get the caucus states into the electronic and mail-in voting primary cycle, which allows for shenanigans.

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  6. BDB Inactive
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Great idea!

    Rotate the caucuses and let other states have a chance.

    If that means rotating through all 50 states, each state would only be first each 200 years.

    Fine by me.  Most states never go first as it is.

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  7. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    The Iowa Caucus also means that a lot of people from Illinois can cheat oops participate.

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  8. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    This is just the next step in having Stacy Abrams be elected president of earth.   She will win in South Carolina and then Georgia and then harvest her way to the US presidency.  After 8 years the WEF will elect her president of earth.   All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama. 

    Stacey Abrams makes cameo as United Earth president on 'Star Trek:  Discovery' | The Hill

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  9. Charlotte Member
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    EB: And while we’re at it – Iowa Caucuses.  They are basically a test of which candidate has supporters who are the most bull-headed and have the largest bladders.  Those folks can outlast the other candidates’ supporters at the local  high school gym where they meet and be the last to go home, thereby winning that  precinct’s caucus for their guy.  So….nothing to do with who the voters of Iowa might actually prefer.  

    Caucuses are weird. Every four years I try to learn how they work but the process is just so boring and arcane that I can never figure it out.

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  10. Charlotte Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    I think it’s sad. It has always been a fun time in New Hampshire, and I want to see some fun stay in politics. It’s good for civic engagement, which never happens by itself.

    I agree. Same with the fried-Oreos-and-butter-cow photo-ops at the Iowa State Fair the summer before.

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  11. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    This is just the next step in having Stacy Abrams be elected president of earth. She will win in South Carolina and then Georgia and then harvest her way to the US presidency. After 8 years the WEF will elect her president of earth. All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama.

    Stacey Abrams makes cameo as United Earth president on 'Star Trek:Discovery' | The Hill

    2000 Meals

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    This is just the next step in having Stacy Abrams be elected president of earth. She will win in South Carolina and then Georgia and then harvest her way to the US presidency. After 8 years the WEF will elect her president of earth. All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama.

    Stacey Abrams makes cameo as United Earth president on 'Star Trek:Discovery' | The Hill

    Doesn’t she have to be a legal resident of earth to be eligible for the Presidency?  I hear she’s a Vegan.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    This is just the next step in having Stacy Abrams be elected president of earth. She will win in South Carolina and then Georgia and then harvest her way to the US presidency. After 8 years the WEF will elect her president of earth. All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama.

    Stacey Abrams makes cameo as United Earth president on 'Star Trek:Discovery' | The Hill

    I get more of a Star Wars vibe from that, which would mean she’s the next Emperor Palpatine.

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  14. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    I’m fine with switching around the order of the states, but I do like the idea of keeping some small states at the front of the line so that they get a little time in the sun.

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  15. Flicker Coolidge
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’m fine with switching around the order of the states, but I do like the idea of keeping some small states at the front of the line so that they get a little time in the sun.

    Who’s going to organize and enforce this?

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  16. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’m fine with switching around the order of the states, but I do like the idea of keeping some small states at the front of the line so that they get a little time in the sun.

    Who’s going to organize and enforce this?

    Beats me.

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    I’m fine with switching around the order of the states, but I do like the idea of keeping some small states at the front of the line so that they get a little time in the sun.

    Who’s going to organize and enforce this?

    Beats me.

    That’s the point.  New Hampshire’s state law is that their primary is first by at least 7 days.  Biden is talking about South Carolina being first on February 3, 2024.  Under New Hampshire state law, that would mean that the New Hampshire Primary would be on Saturday, January 27, 2024.  The State Legislature does not set the date for the Primary Election each year.  No, the New Hampshire Secretary of State sets the date of the Primary Election. 

    Well, what if the Dem’s set South Carolina on January 27th?  New Hampshire will go back to January 20th.  What if the Dem’s then move South Carolina back to January 2nd?  New Hampshire has often stated that they have no problem with setting their primary in the December before the election year.  Will it be on December 26th, or will they back it up to December 23rd?  New Hampshire really doesn’t care what you think and what you like or what you want.  They are going to go first.

    Well, what if the Democrats say that New Hampshire would lose half of their delegates?  New Hampshire really doesn’t care.  They still are going to go first.  What if the Democrats say that New Hampshire will lose all of their delegates?  New Hampshire really doesn’t care.  They still are going to go first by at least seven days.  They would likely pass a law saying that the assigning of delegates whenever that happens, if they have any delegates, will be based proportionately on who won the primary.  

    New Hampshire calls itself The Granite State.  Actually, maybe they should be known as the “Honey Badger” state, based upon the meme, “Honey Badger Don’t Care.”  

    New Hampshire’s number of delegates is nominal at best.  But who places first or second and by how much is HUGE.  New Hampshire is going to go first, and they really don’t care if you don’t think that it is fair or not.  They are going first.  

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Double-Post, although I refreshed several times to make sure, and this didn’t show up until much later.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    This is just the next step in having Stacy Abrams be elected president of earth. She will win in South Carolina and then Georgia and then harvest her way to the US presidency. After 8 years the WEF will elect her president of earth. All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama.

    Stacey Abrams makes cameo as United Earth president on 'Star Trek:Discovery' | The Hill

    I get more of a Star Wars vibe from that, which would mean she’s the next Emperor Palpatine.

     

    We’ve seen that the President of Earth, and the President of the Federation, do not dress like that!  The long robes thing is coming from someone who really wanted to make Star Wars movies/shows, as with Jar Jar Abrams and his noxious films.

    And despite what Penny and Amy think, Star Wars and Star Trek are NOT identical/interchangeable!

     

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Follow-up to the previous clip:

     

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  21. EB Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    If that means rotating through all 50 states, each state would only be first each 200 years

    You’ll note I said “regions.”  

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  22. EB Thatcher
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    Flicker (View Comment):
    Who’s going to organize and enforce this?

    Apparently the national committees of the parties.

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  23. EB Thatcher
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    New Hampshire’s number of delegates is nominal at best.  But who places first or second and by how much is HUGE.  New Hampshire is going to go first, and they really don’t care if you don’t think that it is fair or not.  They are going first.  

    I’ve often thought that California should pass a law that their primary is the same day as NH’s – whenever that is.  None of the candidates would go to NH if they had first crack at CA’s 400+ delegates.  Hmmmm, sunny CA or snowbound NH?

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  24. Timothy Landon Inactive
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    Remember when Iowa Democrats could not declare a winner?  I hope the primaries improve in 2024.

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  25. kedavis Coolidge
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    EB (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    New Hampshire’s number of delegates is nominal at best. But who places first or second and by how much is HUGE. New Hampshire is going to go first, and they really don’t care if you don’t think that it is fair or not. They are going first.

    I’ve often thought that California should pass a law that their primary is the same day as NH’s – whenever that is. None of the candidates would go to NH if they had first crack at CA’s 400+ delegates. Hmmmm, sunny CA or snowbound NH?

    But that wouldn’t work if NH insists that theirs be EARLIER by at least 7 days.

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  26. Freeven Member
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    Perhaps AZ should vote first, like tomorrow, so they can get their ballots counted before the 2024 election.

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  27. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Perhaps AZ should vote first, like tomorrow, so they can get their ballots counted before the 2024 election.

    You’re optimistic.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/arizona-announces-they-have-finished-counting-and-calvin-coolidge-has-won-their-3-electoral-votes/

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  28. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Timothy Landon (View Comment):

    Remember when Iowa Democrats could not declare a winner? I hope the primaries improve in 2024.

    This was in 2020 to protect Biden, who would have finished 5th.

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  29. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    All as it has been foreseen by Senator Obama.

     

    I get more of a Star Wars vibe from that, which would mean she’s the next Emperor Palpatine.

    Clearly it is *Obama* that moved from Senator to Emperor Palpatine.  It has all been foreseen.

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  30. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    EB (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    New Hampshire’s number of delegates is nominal at best. But who places first or second and by how much is HUGE. New Hampshire is going to go first, and they really don’t care if you don’t think that it is fair or not. They are going first.

    I’ve often thought that California should pass a law that their primary is the same day as NH’s – whenever that is. None of the candidates would go to NH if they had first crack at CA’s 400+ delegates. Hmmmm, sunny CA or snowbound NH?

    But that wouldn’t work if NH insists that theirs be EARLIER by at least 7 days.

    California has a slow system of setting up an election which they do by mail,  which takes weeks to count.  New Hampshire can simply copy off paper ballots and have everyone vote with extremely short notice.  New Hampshire counts their votes very quickly also.  Within hours, the news is out:  “‘X’ won the New Hampshire Primary.”  Having the “First in the Nation” primary is integral to New Hampshire, kinda like their turning leaves in the Fall, or Dallas playing football on Thanksgiving Day.

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