I’m on a DTD (Donald Trump Diet)

 

A few weeks ago, following the elections and Trump’s proclamation that he was running again, I declared that I would avoid posts that described anything Trumpian. I even requested that people refrain from bringing him up in my posts, and for the most part, people have been obliging.

I don’t hate Trump, but I don’t like him. And I am tired of having to explain and justify my positions regarding him. I felt like people were centering their worlds around him—conversations, opinions, declarations—and I wanted no part of it.

I realize that this post breaks my vow. But I wanted to share some of my reactions to my decision.

First, I feel so relieved and much more at peace. I’ve stopped pulling out my hair (kidding) and I feel free to focus on other issues of the day: the other crazy political situations, the cultural issues of the Woke agenda, situations in Florida, and just (what I hope are) thought-provoking posts that provide food for thought.

Maybe my posts aren’t as dramatic or passionate or even hysterical as some. Maybe they aren’t clickbait that are so intriguing and fun to read.

But they are honest and, I hope, thoughtful.

And my DT Diet has greatly reduced my angst and frustration. It is low-calorie and definitely good for your health. Will I be able to maintain it over time? I’ve already been tempted by some rich and filling posts, so it’s hard to say. We’ll have to see how much willpower I have.

Anyone want to join me?

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  1. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Very amusing post. I really thought it was about diet. Carnivore or Vegan or something. But it was about Trump.

    I handle it differently. This may help you all. I don’t use the words trump, rump, or turnip anymore.

    I gave up bridge because of Trump.

    I gave up the trumpet because of Trump

    I don’t like elephants anymore, because they, you know, they trumpet. (Like Trump does when he speaks from the stage to crowds of ten thousands.)

    I can’t use trump as a verb anymore.

    And I don’t even look at rump roast in the supermarket anymore, because, you know, it’s just too close.

    And now I find myself living with peace and tranquility. That’s my secret.

    There was a lady on Twitter saying that her husband refuses to microwave things for 45 seconds because it’s too traumatic. Instead he uses 44 to honor Obama.

    He can claim that as his IQ too.

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  2. Suspira Member
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    @Suspira

    Trump Fatigue is real. He needs to fade away, but if he won’t, then the best the rest of us can do is to ignore him. I like your diet plan. It just may be the way to political health.

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  3. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fair or unfair, like it or not, Trump is far to divisive to lead the (R), much less the Country.

    …. And after the last election it is apparent Trump a lousy kingmaker as well.

    I disagree that that is apparent. I seem to recall seeing something like a 93% success rate.

    Anyway, there’s also a real hazard to ditching the lightning rod because people are afraid of the lightning, which is why I’m not ready to move on. I think some semblance of justice for the radical weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement for political purposes we saw the last 10-20 years is needed or this only gets worse. This is a pretty good hill to die on, and no I don’t mean for President Trump, I mean for basic civics and justice.

    I refuse to move on because I refuse to let the Dems be rewarded for their evil coup and know that success encourages them to continue and grow their coup-like behavior. Know you enemy. You can push back against Trump, if you wish, but I will push back against the Dems and their enablers.

    I take your point, and in large part agree and want to push back against the Dems and their enablers as well.

    However I seriously doubt Trump could ever win a National election again, and the Country desperately needs to elect an (R) Administration in 2024 to attempt to undo the damage Biden(ie: Klain) has done.

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  4. Bishop Wash Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fair or unfair, like it or not, Trump is far to divisive to lead the (R), much less the Country.

    …. And after the last election it is apparent Trump a lousy kingmaker as well.

    I disagree that that is apparent. I seem to recall seeing something like a 93% success rate.

    Anyway, there’s also a real hazard to ditching the lightning rod because people are afraid of the lightning, which is why I’m not ready to move on. I think some semblance of justice for the radical weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement for political purposes we saw the last 10-20 years is needed or this only gets worse. This is a pretty good hill to die on, and no I don’t mean for President Trump, I mean for basic civics and justice.

    I refuse to move on because I refuse to let the Dems be rewarded for their evil coup and know that success encourages them to continue and grow their coup-like behavior. Know you enemy. You can push back against Trump, if you wish, but I will push back against the Dems and their enablers.

    I take your point, and in large part agree and want to push back against the Dems and their enablers as well.

    However I seriously doubt Trump could ever win a National election again, and the Country desperately needs to elect an (R) Administration in 2024 to attempt to undo the damage Biden(ie: Klain) has done.

    With failed states like Pennsylvania and Arizona unable to competently conduct elections and not looking to fix their problems, I doubt Republicans will win a presidential election again. Demote them to territorial status until they get things in order. 

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  5. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    W Bob (View Comment):

    Trump’s mind is combination of egomania and Norman Vincent Peale positive thinking. It’s a nasty combination.

    Nasty but effective resisting Dem pressure.

    • #35
  6. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    That doesn’t necessarily translate to the presidency.

    • #36
  7. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Suspira (View Comment):

    Trump Fatigue is real. He needs to fade away, but if he won’t, then the best the rest of us can do is to ignore him. I like your diet plan. It just may be the way to political health.

    There is a recession the left always beats us and grows its power.it doesn’t get fatigue.

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  8. Steven Seward Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    That doesn’t necessarily translate to the presidency.

    Why not?

    • #38
  9. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Ed G. (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Fair or unfair, like it or not, Trump is far to divisive to lead the (R), much less the Country.

    …. And after the last election it is apparent Trump a lousy kingmaker as well.

    I disagree that that is apparent. I seem to recall seeing something like a 93% success rate.

    Anyway, there’s also a real hazard to ditching the lightning rod because people are afraid of the lightning, which is why I’m not ready to move on. I think some semblance of justice for the radical weaponization of intelligence and law enforcement for political purposes we saw the last 10-20 years is needed or this only gets worse. This is a pretty good hill to die on, and no I don’t mean for President Trump, I mean for basic civics and justice.

    I refuse to move on because I refuse to let the Dems be rewarded for their evil coup and know that success encourages them to continue and grow their coup-like behavior. Know you enemy. You can push back against Trump, if you wish, but I will push back against the Dems and their enablers.

    I take your point, and in large part agree and want to push back against the Dems and their enablers as well.

    However I seriously doubt Trump could ever win a National election again, and the Country desperately needs to elect an (R) Administration in 2024 to attempt to undo the damage Biden(ie: Klain) has done.

    Trump pushed back once. If Republicans won’t vote for him in the general, then they aren’t desperate enough. Pushing back the left requires strength, not fatigue.

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  10. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    That doesn’t necessarily translate to the presidency.

    Why not?

    He is a governor of an efficiently run state and he kept it that way. The president is the chief executive of a failing and corrupt state.  He has more control over state agencies than the president has over his executive leviathan. Foreign actors don’t work as hard to in influence state elections as the do to interfere in federal elections. As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

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  11. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Red Herring (View Comment):
    As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

    I don’t think people hating him will be to his detriment. In fact, it could inspire DeSantis. I think he’s up to it.

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  12. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    My question is, how does one avoid the 15 emails and 10 texts every single day, including Saturday and Sunday? Every one of those ends up asking for money. Here’s a poll, do you agree with this or that position? Whether you do or do not, one thing is for sure, you must pay to record your answer.  it is pretty nauseating.

    • #42
  13. cdor Member
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    @cdor

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    Some say DeSantis is being funded by corporate media.

    • #43
  14. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Very amusing post. I really thought it was about diet. Carnivore or Vegan or something. But it was about Trump.

    I handle it differently. This may help you all. I don’t use the words trump, rump, or turnip anymore.

    I gave up bridge because of Trump.

    I gave up the trumpet because of Trump

    I don’t like elephants anymore, because they, you know, they trumpet. (Like Trump does when he speaks from the stage to crowds of ten thousands.)

    I can’t use trump as a verb anymore.

    And I don’t even look at rump roast in the supermarket anymore, because, you know, it’s just too close.

    And now I find myself living with peace and tranquility. That’s my secret.

     

    There was a lady on Twitter saying that her husband refuses to microwave things for 45 seconds because it’s too traumatic. Instead he uses 44 to honor Obama.

    May his food all be raw.

    • #44
  15. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

    I don’t think people hating him will be to his detrimental. In fact, it could inspire DeSantis. I think he’s up to it.

    What he is up to and what the unengaged and gullible voter will fall for are two different things. Also, I predict libertarians will not be as supportive. I happen to like him. 

    • #45
  16. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    cdor (View Comment):

    My question is, how does one avoid the 15 emails and 10 texts every single day, including Saturday and Sunday? Every one of those ends up asking for money. Here’s a poll, do you agree with this or that position? Whether you do or do not, one thing is for sure, you must pay to record your answer. it is pretty nauseating.

    That is what the trashcan icon is for.

    • #46
  17. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    cdor (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    Some say DeSantis is being funded by corporate media.

    “Some say” will be the most prolific references on social media.

    • #47
  18. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    cdor (View Comment):

    My question is, how does one avoid the 15 emails and 10 texts every single day, including Saturday and Sunday? Every one of those ends up asking for money. Here’s a poll, do you agree with this or that position? Whether you do or do not, one thing is for sure, you must pay to record your answer. it is pretty nauseating.

    I delete emails (I don’t seem to get those) and toss everything else in the trash or recycle. As soon as I see anything having to do with elections, they’re gone.

    • #48
  19. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    cdor (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    Some say DeSantis is being funded by corporate media.

    And maybe that’s just another way to slur him . . . 

    • #49
  20. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

    I don’t think people hating him will be to his detrimental. In fact, it could inspire DeSantis. I think he’s up to it.

    I know some Ricochetti who watched DeSantis debate Crist and disagree. Apparently he looked a little deer-in-the-headlights — like it was his first rodeo (to egregiously mix metaphors). Imagine how that would work out in a primary debate with Trump.

    I think people who obsess about Trump’s obnoxiousness are missing the point. Trump is a stand-in for ordinary Americans with traditional values. For people who don’t like American manufacturing exported to China and (some believe intentionally) effectively gutting red-state middle America. People who resent the invasion over our southern border. People who think it’s way past time the American embassy was moved to Israel’s capital city of Jerusalem,, as promised. People who aren’t so much impressed by diplomacy and believe in peace through strength. People who would prefer to focus on their faith rather on whatever nonsense is happening in Washington. 

    If you haven’t watched Dave Chappelle’s opening on SNL about Trump, you should. He called him an “honest liar” because during the 2016 campaign he openly confessed to gaming the system to his advantage. He was acknowledging that the system is rigged for people of money and influence. Some of us find that honesty refreshing if brazenly impolitic. I like impolitic at this point. He told Hillary he was smart for not paying (too much) in taxes. True. As president, he treated NATO countries like the dependent children they are. Frankly, I don’t see the “liar” part so much as the uncomfortably honest part. Maybe people who like the status quo need to be made uncomfortable.

    I also recommend the interview with Milo Yiannopoulos on Timcast IRL. He’s very insightful about Trump and not entirely uncritical. He thinks Trump is too self-focused right now and not enough on the forgotten man like he was in 2016. I think that’s right, but also understandable given the persecution he’s suffered from Left and Right. 

    If you really want to be finished with Trump, vote him into a second 4-year term. It would be his last. Otherwise, prepare for more Trumpy Trumpian Trump. He’s not going away until he dies. The man is indomitable. 

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  21. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Oh, and Salena Zito has a good article along these lines

    https://amgreatness.com/2022/11/22/trump-was-always-the-result-of-the-conservative-populist-coalition-not-the-cause/

     

    • #51
  22. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    @SusanQuinn

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Maybe people who like the status quo need to be made uncomfortable.

    I will vote for him if he’s the nominee. But will enough other people do the same?

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  23. Red Herring Coolidge
    Red Herring
    @EHerring

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Maybe people who like the status quo need to be made uncomfortable.

    I will vote for him if he’s the nominee. But will enough other people do the same?

    Freedom is one generation away from… 

    • #53
  24. Western Chauvinist Member
    Western Chauvinist
    @WesternChauvinist

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    Maybe people who like the status quo need to be made uncomfortable.

    I will vote for him if he’s the nominee. But will enough other people do the same?

    I don’t think that’s the right question. The right questions are: 1) can any Republican overcome the rigged system the Democrats and their tech and media allies have instituted and 2) how many MAGA voters are going to sit out another election cycle without Trump on the ticket (see 2008 and 2012). A significant plurality feel unrepresented by the establishment in both parties. We’re in a very undemocratic moment, and it’s not because of Trump. 

    Let the Democrats and the Left (but, I repeat) perpetually dominate the elections and you may wish you’d supported that bull in the china shop. 

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  25. cdor Member
    cdor
    @cdor

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    how many MAGA voters are going to sit out another election cycle without Trump on the ticket (see 2008 and 2012). A significant plurality feel unrepresented by the establishment in both parties

    This is called living between a rock and a hard place. Trump’s policies are fantastic and his instincts (pragmatic conservatism, i.e. common sense) are the best. His personality is difficult. So how many will not vote for Trump and how many will not vote if Trump isn’t on the ballot to vote for? My dream is that Trump realizes in a year that he is losing his energy and hands off the baton to DeSantis, becoming a mentor instead of a candidate. Could that dream come true? Cough, cough.

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  26. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    He thinks Trump is too self-focused right now and not enough on the forgotten man like he was in 2016.

    My parents always said that incumbents had a huge disadvantage in debates because they knew too much and could say so little.

    I can’t help thinking Trump is talking so much about himself because if he steps a sixteenth of an inch to the side in any direction, he might inadvertently reveal something he shouldn’t or legally can’t. Since he has to speak extemporaneously, he stays on very safe ground at all times.

     

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  27. Western Chauvinist Member
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    @WesternChauvinist

    cdor (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    how many MAGA voters are going to sit out another election cycle without Trump on the ticket (see 2008 and 2012). A significant plurality feel unrepresented by the establishment in both parties

    This is called living between a rock and a hard place. Trump’s policies are fantastic and his instincts (pragmatic conservatism, i.e. common sense) are the best. His personality is difficult. So how many will not vote for Trump and how many will not vote if Trump isn’t on the ballot to vote for? My dream is that Trump realizes in a year that he is losing his energy and hands off the baton to DeSantis, becoming a mentor instead of a candidate. Could that dream come true? Cough, cough.

    We don’t and can’t know. Now what?

    Also, I suspect people who react poorly to Trump’s difficult personality are imbibing on too much media. I’ve long said the problem isn’t really Trump or his personality. It the reaction to him, carefully curated by media across the political spectrum. If you watch and listen to Trump rather than what’s said about him, I think it cuts his obnoxiousness in half.

    Heh. I amuse myself.

    EDIT to add: If I were to recommend a diet, it would be to refrain from political media about Trump and get it straight from the horse’s a$$ mouth.

    I amuse myself again.

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  28. Susan Quinn Contributor
    Susan Quinn
    @SusanQuinn

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    EDIT to add: If I were to recommend a diet, it would be to refrain from political media about Trump and get it straight from the horse’s a$$ mouth.

    Actually, that’s part of what I need to do, and that part is easy. Most of my judgment does come from seeing him and seeing the comments that he’s made. What I really need to do is stop viewing him, which I have mostly done. And I will stay engaged with this OP, but am going to pull back a bit from the discussion because I find it just as stressful. I don’t want to be engaged in debates about him anymore, but all of you are welcome to carry on.

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  29. Steven Seward Member
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    @StevenSeward

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Corporate media, the Never Trump professionals (e.g., Lincoln Project, Bulwark, Dispath ….) are going to keep talking about him – their business models are based on it. DeSantis is a much better version of Trump. He is a very competent governor, and he doesn’t crave the corporate media like Trump does.

    That doesn’t necessarily translate to the presidency.

    Why not?

    He is a governor of an efficiently run state and he kept it that way. The president is the chief executive of a failing and corrupt state. He has more control over state agencies than the president has over his executive leviathan. Foreign actors don’t work as hard to in influence state elections as the do to interfere in federal elections. As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

    But Trump  wasn’t a Governor at all, and he translated into a decent President.  Why can’t DeSantis?  And there is no reason he would be hated more than Trump because he is more conservative.  Most Republicans are more conservative than Trump and they are not hated more than he is.

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  30. Steven Seward Member
    Steven Seward
    @StevenSeward

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):
    As a person who is more conservative than Trump, he would be hated even more than Trump.

    I don’t think people hating him will be to his detriment. In fact, it could inspire DeSantis. I think he’s up to it.

    You speak in the future tense, but this already seems to have happened.

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