The Final Numbers from Arizona (13 Days After Election Edition)

 

You guys: On Monday, November 21, all counties in the state of Arizona finally finished counting the Election Day votes. And it only took them 13 days. In fact, two of the contests were so close that automatic recounts were triggered. Those won’t begin until after December 5 … another 14 days away.

Want to restore trust in the process, Arizona? Reform the bad election laws. For the last time, let’s go to the big board…

Governor

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
Kari Lake (R) 49.7% 1,270,774
√ Katie Hobbs (D) 50.3% 1,287,890

U.S. Senator (race called for Sen. Kelly, Friday, Nov. 11)

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
Blake Masters (R) 46.5% 1,190,643
√ Mark Kelly (D) 51.4% 1,315,771

Secretary of State (race called for Adrian Fontes, Friday, Nov. 11)

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
Mark Finchem (R) 47.6% 1,200,411
√ Adrian Fontes (D) 52.4% 1,320,618

Attorney General

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
Abe Hamadeh (R) 50.0% 1,254,102
* Kris Mayes (D) 50.0% 1,254,612

Treasurer (race called for Kimberly Yee, Saturday, Nov. 12)

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
√ Kimberly Yee (R) 55.7% 1,390,135
Martin Quezada (D) 44.3% 1,107,036

Superintendent of Public Instruction

Candidate Percentage Vote Total
* Tom Horne (R) 50.2% 1,255,977
Kathy Hoffman (D) 49.8% 1,247,009

None of the percentages shifted over the past week. Of course, these numbers are unofficial until certified on December 5. But we’re not out of the weeds yet!

An automatic recount is triggered when opposing candidates finish within 0.5 percent of the total votes. This applies to two races: Attorney General and Superintendent of Public Instruction. In the first, Kris Mayes (D) defeated Abe Hamadeh (R) by a mere 510 votes. In the second, Tom Horne (R) defeated incumbent Kathy Hoffman (D) by 8,968 votes.

Also, Arizona’s current Attorney General, Mark Brnovich (R), has demanded that Maricopa County officials provide a report on the tabulation machine problems on Election Day. By November 28, the county must detail the specific problems related to the printers at each polling location and how poll workers were trained.

Please note that your humble author sat next to Mark Brnovich in government class at Shadow Mountain High School. We would pass National Review issues back and forth, and drive our liberal teacher crazy with our anti-communist tirades. At the time, I worked as a highly acclaimed bag boy at Safeway. One afternoon, after we annoyed the teacher in class, he came into the store and bought a 12-pack of Meister Brau (a very, very cheap beer). After that, we called him “Meister Brau”; he didn’t like that either.

P.S. I worked with AG candidate Hamadeh at the Goldwater Institute, and AG candidate Mayes was my editor at Arizona State’s student newspaper. Knowing me is apparently a job requirement.

Previous Arizona Election Posts:

The Wednesday Wrap-up

The Tuesday Wrap-up

The Monday Wrap-up

The Sunday Wrap-up

The Saturday Wrap-up

The Friday Wrap-up

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  1. Red Herring Coolidge
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    ChrisShearer (View Comment):

    I’m going to assume that the difference between Kimberly Yee’s vote total and Kari Lake’s is not cross over Democrats but Republicans and Independents who chose to vote for some but not all candidates on the ballot. That’s about 120,000 votes. furthermore there are more total votes for the Governor’s race than the Treasurer’s race.

    As a conservative Independent I have no problem not voting in some races and voting in others. I have to believe I’m not alone. do you think Kimberly Yee “energized” the Trump voters as much as Kari Lake did? doubtful. And yet she got more votes than Ms. Lake. Kimberly Yee is not a squish, is not a RINO.

    there’s a clear lesson in these numbers. Does the Republican Party of Arizona understand that lesson.

     

    PS Telling “McCain Republicans” to “get the hell out” is not a smart late campaign strategy. Do you think in hindsight she wouldn’t have minded having, say 20,000, of those McCain Republicans voting for her?

    Hissy fit voters are not serious voters. They are more of a joke when liberty and prosperity are on the line. 

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  2. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Quickz (View Comment):

    Funny thought I just had – the whole, “candidates matter” argument. Let’s say “establishment-approved” candidates are nominated for the whole slate of AZ offices, and they also lose by equal amount of votes, with Yee still winning by about 120,000… what would people say?

    That MAGA tanked the AZ candidates? Or .. did candidates matter – just the other way?

    We all know the framing would be drastically different than, “candidates matter” – why?

    Who am I kidding! Haha. They would have won because all the MAGA/Amer1st/Tea Party folks would have voted the party line. It would seem that only one sub-set of the national GOP is interested in losing elections.

    If that is true, then … who’s the actual outlier, the ones *actually* at fault for losing?

    The hissy fit voters are to blame.

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  3. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):
    And demand better. Stop your petty fighting over some idiot who died a few years ago.

    Gave a speech to 1,000 AZ Republicans Friday and said the same. The room got quiet. This is why neither side of the state GOP civil war likes me much. :)

    Another thing the McCains poisoned.

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  4. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Arizona is absolutely crooked.

    Absolutely not. Please prove or withdraw your slander.

    The County Recorders and Boards of Supervisors in the 4 largest voting counties, Maricopa, Pinal, Yavapai, and Mohave are all Republicans. Only Pima County is Democrat.

    The fact of the matter is that non-Trump Statewide candidate Kimberly Yee won a 55.7% landslide victory. She is Pro-Life. She has a NRA “A” rating. She is for low taxes and less regulation. She seconded Trump’s nomination in 2020 at the Convention. She was 100% pro=Trump, except she did not promote the Trump Big Lie that he won the 2020 election. She won by a landslide; all of the four statewide Trump Endorsed Candidates lost.

    The moral of the story. Conservatism won big in Arizona, but “Biden Election Deniers” lost.

    Conservation won jack squat.

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  5. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    I would be embarrassed to be a citizen of Arizona.

    Georgia makes national News of how bad our voting system is. We got done ages ago.

    I am proud to be an Arizonan. When given the opportunity, we gave a landslide victory to a Pro-Life, NRA Rated “A” candidate who seconded Trump’s nomination at the 2020 Convention, and is for Lower Taxes and Less Regulation. The only place Kimberly Yee differed with Trump is that she is not a “Biden Election Denier.” Otherwise she is a 100% conservative.

    The statewide Republicans who lost were all “Biden Election Deniers.” Arizonans rejected that b.s., as has former A.G. William Barr.

    Republicans lost most critical races. Your strategy is for losers.

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  6. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Quickz (View Comment):
    Funny thought I just had – the whole, “candidates matter” argument. Let’s say “establishment-approved” candidates are nominated for the whole slate of AZ offices, and they also lose by equal amount of votes, with Yee still winning by about 120,000… what would people say?

    Frankly, another John McCain wouldn’t have been helpful, so it doesn’t much matter. John McCain and that witch in Alaska do more harm than good.

    I hope Chewbacca pulls it out in Alaska, but I’m pretty sure Alaska is pretty corrupt too.

    It’s not “ another John McCain” it’s voters who would vote for John McCain

    another PS for folks outside if AZ Kimberly Yee is pretty conservative.

    Pro-Life and NRA “A” rating. Lower taxes. Less regulation. Refuses to invest state money in ESG funds. 100% conservative, just not a “Biden Election Denier.”

    Kimberly Yee for Governor in 2026!

    You Republicans are done in Arizona.

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  7. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    In 2024, when there is another republican administration – could consent decrees be used to force counties to better manage elections?

    A consent decree would be apporpriate if you can show me how any county did anything wrong. Given the polices enacted by our Republican Legislature, the counties did their jobs as quickly as can be expected.

    If you can’t produce results 2 weeks after an election. Your management may need to be reviewed.

    This is so true, and it is something to be at least embarrassed by.

    Change the law. Have a hard deadine for dropping off ballots. Do what Florida does.

    I’m not in your state you change the law. It’s your state that’s the embarrassment not mine. Weird for you to tell me to change the law when I don’t even vote in your state.

    Is there a move afoot to change the law?

    The law isn’t as much an embarrassment as the hissy fit voters.

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  8. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Jon Gabriel, Ed. (View Comment):

    Old Bathos (View Comment):

    What I never quite grasped about the whole McCain/maverick thing is that there does not appear to be an ideological core at work–just the promise of occasional dissent theater.

    Exactly. He was a weathervane and would pick a few weird fights with his own party for the sake of it, or for some hidden interest. The MSM would praise him since they love red-on-red bloodletting.

    In AZ, the MAGA vs. NeverMAGA schism not only depressed GOP performance but turned off the indies. A point or two loss from GOP no-shows and defections, a point or two lost from disgruntled indies, and a point or two gained by Dems by means of better mobilization means that what should/could have been a set of healthy 4-5 point wins across the board turns into 1-3 point losses across the board–exactly what happened.

    This is key. Indies see both sides screaming at each other and decide to vote for the side with the least drama. Most voters couldn’t care less about ideology, and just want to be left alone. (And, since they aren’t ideological, they don’t understand that the left will never, ever leave them alone.)

    If they voted to be left alone, they will have a rude awakening when the Dems consolidate their power.

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  9. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    I would be embarrassed to be a citizen of Arizona.

    Georgia makes national News of how bad our voting system is. We got done ages ago.

    I am proud to be an Arizonan. When given the opportunity, we gave a landslide victory to a Pro-Life, NRA Rated “A” candidate who seconded Trump’s nomination at the 2020 Convention, and is for Lower Taxes and Less Regulation. The only place Kimberly Yee differed with Trump is that she is not a “Biden Election Denier.” Otherwise she is a 100% conservative.

    The statewide Republicans who lost were all “Biden Election Deniers.” Arizonans rejected that b.s., as has former A.G. William Barr.

    And I reject bill barr….

    It was simultaneously sad and hilarious listening to Mark Levin roast Bill Barr last week.

    Anyway, I never heard of this guy, but his comment rings true to me. The GOPe is happy to let MAGA people twist in the wind. Next, they’ll be supporting some slug like Hogan, or maybe Christie. ‘eff ’em.

    So you will in effect support the Democrats. There are many at Ricochet who will call you names.

    The country and the party are free go in that direction and I am free to wave goodbye to them. There is no substantial difference between the GOPe and the Democrats on issues that matter to me.

    Unlike you, however, I won’t vote for the enemy so maybe they’ll give me a pass.

    But if Trump is an existential danger to the Republic and the Republican Party, Trump is the enemy, and the Democrats are the lesser evil.

    Marxism isn’t a lesser evil than mean tweets.

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  10. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    The question is this. Given that there is a 5% or more penalty for selecting Trump, or an election disputer in battleground states, why in the world would you choose Trump or an election disputer when you can have a Pro-Life, NRA “A” rated Republican instead?

    Why would you pass on Trump to elect a Marxist?

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    ChrisShearer (View Comment):

    And I will return to my original point. If you’re a Republican candidate in AZ you’ll need to figure out how to appeal to Independents (or at least how not to turn them off). I think Kirsten Sinema understands this. Mark Kelly understands that only insofar that he can package it into an ad. I think Masters understood that.

    I’d like to return to an AZ Republican Party where Jon Kyl and John Shadegg were important figures.

    Sounds like you are saying Arizona voters vote on feelings not facts.

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  12. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    PS Telling “McCain Republicans” to “get the hell out” is not a smart late campaign strategy. Do you think in hindsight she wouldn’t have minded having, say 20,000, of those McCain Republicans voting for her?

    I totally think she made a mistake saying that. I don’t know what happened behind the scenes, but everyone should have come together and rallied around those who were nominated. I have a feeling that it was not just one person who dropped something into the proverbial punchbowl – it was likely many people who didn’t want to work together. Real shame.

    Never trumpers demand that we rally around their candidates while refusing devote for others.

    There are total and utter hypocrites.

    We have to stop with the “never Trumpers” meme. there are many who will not vote for Trump but who consider those who Trump likes or who speak kindly of Trump who they will vote for. In AZ there was a spectrum of Trump-like candidates from Kari Lake (who’s most common poster placed side by side with Trump) to Masters who kinda forgot Trump after the primary.

    I will vote for the Nominee of the GOP in 2024.

    Never Trumpers will not.

    I am more concerned with winning than they are. I am damn sure a better Republican.

    I will vote for any Republican other than Trump or DJTJ. There is a 5% penalty in the general election in battleground states for Election Disputers. Choose wisely.

    Trump or a Marxist. Chose wisely.

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  13. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Rocks are hard, water is wet, it is hot in Phoenix in the summer, cold in Flagstaff in the winter and the sun rises in the east. Another truth proven by the last election is that there is a 5% penalty for choosing Trump or an election disputer in battleground states.

    You don’t like that? Too bad. Try telling the sun to rise in the west.

    Freedom isn’t free. If people vote for Dems, the party ushering in Marxism, then they don’t deserve freedom.

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    Django (View Comment):

    One more reason to despise McConnell. He pulled money from other possibly winnable races to support Murkowski against Tshibaka. And she has been declared the winner.

    Lisa Murkowski and Mary Peltola Win Reelection in Alaska (townhall.com)

    Good grief.  Another six years of her perfidy is coming.  Alaskans are as bad as Arizonans.

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  15. Django Member
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    One more reason to despise McConnell. He pulled money from other possibly winnable races to support Murkowski against Tshibaka. And she has been declared the winner.

    Lisa Murkowski and Mary Peltola Win Reelection in Alaska (townhall.com)

    Good grief. Another six years of her perfidy is coming. Alaskans are as bad as Arizonans.

    Reports say that The Turtle spent $7+M to defeat Tshibaka. Pulled money from Bolduc and Masters to keep Murkowski around. The Alaska seat would have been in GOP hands if Tshibaka had won. She is a Republican as well. Just not a McConnell fan. 

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  16. Skyler Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

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    One more reason to despise McConnell. He pulled money from other possibly winnable races to support Murkowski against Tshibaka. And she has been declared the winner.

    Lisa Murkowski and Mary Peltola Win Reelection in Alaska (townhall.com)

    Good grief. Another six years of her perfidy is coming. Alaskans are as bad as Arizonans.

    Reports say that The Turtle spent $7+M to defeat Tshibaka. Pulled money from Bolduc and Masters to keep Murkowski around. The Alaska seat would have been in GOP hands if Tshibaka had won. She is a Republican as well. Just not a McConnell fan.

    But let’s blame Trump, not the treachery within the party.

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
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    My goodness.  I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer.  And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts.  If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote.  If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that.  But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Arizona Tresurer Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination.  While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity.  She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican.  Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race.  She won 55.7% fo the vote.  The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.  But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ).  DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott.  All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020.  All of them opposed his second impeachment.  All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity.  But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

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  18. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

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  19. Django Member
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    I guess that’s OK with Gary.

    The Voting Morons – American Thinker

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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    The moral of the story is that unless you live in a R+10 state or district, don’t nominate Election Disputers.  Otherwise, the college educated suburban types will refuse to vote for the “Republican” or will find the Democrat to be the lesser of two evils.

    In MI-3 and WA-3, Election Disputers won the Republican Primaries, only to lose to Democrats in the general election.  We really could have used those two additional votes in Congress, but Trump had to oppose them in the primary.

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    The moral of the story is that unless you live in a R+10 state or district, don’t nominate Election Disputers. Otherwise, the college educated suburban types will refuse to vote for the “Republican” or will find the Democrat to be the lesser of two evils.

    Come on, Gary.  “College educated suburban types” are far more motivated by abortion.  And that puts them in the Dimocrat column to start with.  You’re just running out in front of the crowd that’s already marching and yelling “Follow me!” again.  They don’t even notice you there.

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  22. Gary Robbins Member
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    Django (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    I guess that’s OK with Gary.

    The Voting Morons – American Thinker

    A “moderate” Democrat is often the lesser of two evils compared to a Election Disputer.

    I am an American, a Conservative and a Republican in that order.  

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  23. Django Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    I guess that’s OK with Gary.

    The Voting Morons – American Thinker

    A “moderate” Democrat is often the lesser of two evils compared to a Election Disputer.

    I am an American, a Conservative and a Republican in that order.

    You sound like a CD stuck on repeat. Vaguely amusing, but also annoying after a while.

    Also, you are dense enough to believe there is such a thing as a “moderate” Democrat. That might have been true fifty years ago, but you can’t see that is no longer the case.

    You are really a sad example for the rest of us. We — in your failed eyesight — are election deniers. You are a full-on Reality Denier.

    Still, enjoy your time with your mother.

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  24. Skyler Coolidge
    Skyler
    @Skyler

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    I guess that’s OK with Gary.

    The Voting Morons – American Thinker

    A “moderate” Democrat is often the lesser of two evils compared to a Election Disputer.

    I am an American, a Conservative and a Republican in that order.

    We were told again and again since Reagan to shut up and vote for Bushes, Dole, McCain, Romney and we held our noses and pulled that lever.  But now such loyalty is passé. 

    • #114
  25. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    I guess that’s OK with Gary.

    The Voting Morons – American Thinker

    A “moderate” Democrat is often the lesser of two evils compared to a Election Disputer.

    I am an American, a Conservative and a Republican in that order.

    You sound like a CD stuck on repeat. Vaguely amusing, but also annoying after a while.

    Also, you are dense enough to believe there is such a thing as a “moderate” Democrat. That might have been true fifty years ago, but you can’t see that is no longer the case.

    You are really a sad example for the rest of us. We — in your failed eyesight — are election deniers. You are a full-on Reality Denier.

    Still, enjoy your time with you mother.

    • #115
  26. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Django (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    One more reason to despise McConnell. He pulled money from other possibly winnable races to support Murkowski against Tshibaka. And she has been declared the winner.

    Lisa Murkowski and Mary Peltola Win Reelection in Alaska (townhall.com)

    Good grief. Another six years of her perfidy is coming. Alaskans are as bad as Arizonans.

    Reports say that The Turtle spent $7+M to defeat Tshibaka. Pulled money from Bolduc and Masters to keep Murkowski around. The Alaska seat would have been in GOP hands if Tshibaka had won. She is a Republican as well. Just not a McConnell fan.

    The purpose of the party leader is to re-elect all current members.  That included Murkowski.

    if Trump had not interfered in the Senate primaries, Ducey would have won in Arizona, and Sununu would have won in New Hampshire.

    Thank you Donald Trump!

    • #116
  27. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    The moral of the story is that unless you live in a R+10 state or district, don’t nominate Election Disputers. Otherwise, the college educated suburban types will refuse to vote for the “Republican” or will find the Democrat to be the lesser of two evils.

    Come on, Gary. “College educated suburban types” are far more motivated by abortion. And that puts them in the Dimocrat column to start with. You’re just running out in front of the crowd that’s already marching and yelling “Follow me!” again. They don’t even notice you there.

    Well, Arizona’s Kimberly Yee is staunchly Pro-Life, and she won a 55.7% landslide while the four statewide Republicans all could not break 50.0% due to being election disputers.  

    • #117
  28. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Skyler (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    One more reason to despise McConnell. He pulled money from other possibly winnable races to support Murkowski against Tshibaka. And she has been declared the winner.

    Lisa Murkowski and Mary Peltola Win Reelection in Alaska (townhall.com)

    Good grief. Another six years of her perfidy is coming. Alaskans are as bad as Arizonans.

    Reports say that The Turtle spent $7+M to defeat Tshibaka. Pulled money from Bolduc and Masters to keep Murkowski around. The Alaska seat would have been in GOP hands if Tshibaka had won. She is a Republican as well. Just not a McConnell fan.

    The purpose of the party leader is to re-elect all current members. That included Murkowski.

    if Trump had not interfered in the Senate primaries, Ducey would have won in Arizona, and Sununu would have won in New Hampshire.

    Thank you Donald Trump!

    We owe Trump more than people like you can imagine. He revealed the Uniparty, and members such as you cannot forgive him. The rest of us are eternally grateful. As we said in Kentucky horse country: He’s my horse even if he never wins another race. 

    BTW, your announced purpose is pure BS. 

    • #118
  29. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    The moral of the story is that unless you live in a R+10 state or district, don’t nominate Election Disputers. Otherwise, the college educated suburban types will refuse to vote for the “Republican” or will find the Democrat to be the lesser of two evils.

    Come on, Gary. “College educated suburban types” are far more motivated by abortion. And that puts them in the Dimocrat column to start with. You’re just running out in front of the crowd that’s already marching and yelling “Follow me!” again. They don’t even notice you there.

    Well, Arizona’s Kimberly Yee is staunchly Pro-Life, and she won a 55.7% landslide while the four statewide Republicans all could not break 50.0% due to being election disputers.

    You still don’t understand how little State Treasurer has to do with damn near everything?

    • #119
  30. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    My goodness. I am now labeled as a Marxist sympathizer. And people objected which I called Election Disputers “Election Deniers.”

    Here are the facts. If you nominate Trump, or someone who is a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer, you are giving away 5+% of the vote. If you are in a ruby red district, or state, you can afford to do that. But if you live in a competative district or state, that 5+% can be the difference between winning and losing.

    Kimberly Yee was pro-Trump in 2020 and she seconded his nomination. While she was not an overt Election Disputer, she expressed Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. She is Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, Lower Taxes, Less Regulations, Anti-ESG Republican. Trump did not endorse in her race, as it was the fifth highest statewide race. She won 55.7% fo the vote. The top four statewide Republicans who Trump endorsed who were overt Election Disputers, all got less than 50.00% of the vote.

    If you live in a R+10 district or state, you can afford to be a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer. But if your state or district is R+5 or less, you will likely lose if you are a Trump Big Lie Election Disputer.

    There are plenty of other choices than Trump (or DJTJ). DeSantis is great as are Abbott, Youngkin, and Tim Scott. All of them supported Trump in 2016 and 2020. All of them opposed his second impeachment. All of them repeat Republican nostrums about Election Integrity. But none of them is an Election Disputer, so they aren’t writing off 5+% of the vote.

    If you fail to vote for “election deniers,” you let the Marxist Dems win seats and even a house in Congress.

    The moral of the story is that unless you live in a R+10 state or district, don’t nominate Election Disputers. Otherwise, the college educated suburban types will refuse to vote for the “Republican” or will find the Democrat to be the lesser of two evils.

    Come on, Gary. “College educated suburban types” are far more motivated by abortion. And that puts them in the Dimocrat column to start with. You’re just running out in front of the crowd that’s already marching and yelling “Follow me!” again. They don’t even notice you there.

    Well, Arizona’s Kimberly Yee is staunchly Pro-Life, and she won a 55.7% landslide while the four statewide Republicans all could not break 50.0% due to being election disputers.

    You still don’t understand how little State Treasurer has to do with damn near everything?

    I’ve read that she tried to run for governor but got no traction at all. 

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