A Southern State Redder than Florida?

 

Yes. James Carville’s home state of Louisiana. Look at this map from the NYT.

And what does Democrat strategist James Carville have to say about it and about turning the South blue?

JAMES CARVILLE: The Louisiana state [Democratic] Party has had a very difficult time in the last year, I’ll leave it at that.

You have to understand, Louisiana has about 33% black total population. It’s very rare, if we could get the black contribution to 33 (that never happens, or seldom happens) we’d be in a lot better position. A state that interests me a lot is Mississippi which is 37, maybe 38% black, it only votes 30. If you got your staff from 30 to 38, that’s a lot of votes.

And we don’t lose that bad in Mississippi, not that big. It’s not as many electoral votes, but we might be better off looking harder at Mississippi than Florida. I don’t know that. I’m just throwing a riff off the top of my head. But it’s been very frustrating. I think some of our previous consultants you had on, I’ve been trying to tell some of these big fundraisers, the massive GOTV, massive voter registrations in the Mississippi delta, the Louisiana delta.

Most of the black folks in my part of the world live close to the river, where i grew up was probably 80% black, I grew up right on the river. I think consultants are making some good points, but we’ve got to be realistic here.

If we can just get a good share of the vote up to our share of the population, that would help. We would have probably won in North Carolina. We would have to do the math. (Transcript via RCP)

Are blacks even listening? If you’re black in America, your vote is assumed. You’re going to vote Democrat. The Party of Jim Crow just needs you to turn out.

And for what? How has the Democrat party improved your lives or the lives of your children? Through public education? Don’t make me laugh. Bitterly. Because the party wants you to continue to abort your babies at over 50% in New York City?

Blacks are still enslaved in this country. They’re toiling in the slums of poisonous progressive ideology in all the major cities. It’s past time to wake up!

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  1. Kevin Schulte Member
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    And black radio is filling there heads with prog lies.  The leaders of the black community get perks at the power table. So they don’t mind selling out there people. You would not believe the things that a black coworker believes about republicans. He does not make it up . It is feed to him. 

    The culture will also police it’s own if they divert from the prog party line.   

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  2. TempTime Member
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    I have never understood how any self-respecting person, generally referred to as a ‘Black’ person, has ever voted for a Democrat.

    And I surely wish whoever provided the transcript would remember that if you are speaking/writing of a group of People that the Transcriber should exhibit some respect and capitalize the word Black.   Unless of course Carville was speaking of crayons.   

    I don’t think He was, because that would be silly.  But then again, well, it was Carville speaking, so who can say for sure of what he was babbling.

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
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    I find Carville’s presumption to be repulsively racist. It’s too bad more blacks* don’t see it that way. Are you a free-thinking person or a drone for the Left? 

    *Sorry, TT. I’m not caving to political correctness. I’m a white person of Northwestern European extraction. Lower-case “w”. But, race doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as it does to the Left. It’s not defining, it’s descriptive. 

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  4. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    That red in Louisiana is not strongly GOP, because Louisiana still has a bit of that Southern Democrat in its culture.   Oklahoma is the reddest state in the Union.

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  5. Western Chauvinist Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    That red in Louisiana is not strongly GOP, because Louisiana still has a bit of that Southern Democrat in its culture. Oklahoma is the reddest state in the Union.

    Maybe, but it’s not Southern, where Carville is targeting. And it doesn’t have Senator Kennedy either.

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  6. TempTime Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I find Carville’s presumption to be repulsively racist. It’s too bad more blacks* don’t see it that way. Are you a free-thinking person or a drone for the Left?

    *Sorry, TT. I’m not caving to political correctness. I’m a white person of Northwestern European extraction. Lower-case “w”. But, race doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as it does to the Left. It’s not defining, it’s descriptive.

    I hear and understand the ‘descriptive’ point of view.    However, I interpreted  from the transcript that Carville was speaking ‘of’ a particular group of People,  not describing a group of people;  hence my comment.

    No worries.  But, Yes, I am free-thinking; generally, way outside the box.  Not a drone.  That said, sometimes I do prefer hovering rather than commenting; just not today it seems.  :-)))

    Now returning to the topic …

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  7. Western Chauvinist Member
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    TempTime (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I find Carville’s presumption to be repulsively racist. It’s too bad more blacks* don’t see it that way. Are you a free-thinking person or a drone for the Left?

    *Sorry, TT. I’m not caving to political correctness. I’m a white person of Northwestern European extraction. Lower-case “w”. But, race doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as it does to the Left. It’s not defining, it’s descriptive.

    I hear and understand the ‘descriptive’ point of view. However, I interpreted from the transcript that Carville was speaking ‘of’ a particular group of People, not describing a group of people; hence my comment.

    No worries. But, Yes, I am free-thinking; generally, way outside the box. Not a drone. That said, sometimes I do prefer hovering rather than commenting; just not today it seems. :-)))

    Now returning to the topic …

      I certainly didn’t mean to suggest you are a drone, TT. I was referring to people who vote against their interests out of habit or intimidation.

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  8. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Everyone likes “free” stuff.  Since the “Great Society” which destroyed the black family, black people have been living on the “free stuff” doled out by the government (both D and R administrations).  The welfare reform of the Clinton administration did not even make a dent in the chain of welfare-families of black people.  Better the devil you know, who gives you free stuff, than the devil you don’t, which is really hard to do (work, earn, marry, don’t break the law).

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  9. Freeven Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    I find Carville’s presumption to be repulsively racist. It’s too bad more blacks* don’t see it that way. Are you a free-thinking person or a drone for the Left?

    *Sorry, TT. I’m not caving to political correctness. I’m a white person of Northwestern European extraction. Lower-case “w”. But, race doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as it does to the Left. It’s not defining, it’s descriptive.

    I like this distinction. It’s my habit to use White and Black when discussing actual group characteristics — i.e. Black culture — and to use white and black when describing individuals or groups for identification purposes — “It was a mostly black crowd.”

    I’m going to rethink my usage, taking your distinction into consideration.

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  10. Columbo Member
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    It’s not just Carville. The entire democrat party is racist. Just ask Joe.

     

     

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  11. Western Chauvinist Member
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    If Democrats couldn’t exploit blacks, they’d have no use for them at all.

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  12. Percival Thatcher
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    If Democrats couldn’t exploit blacks, they’d have no use for them at all.

    And that (the cynic within me asks) makes blacks different how, exactly?

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  13. Kevin Schulte Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    If Democrats couldn’t exploit blacks, they’d have no use for them at all.

    And that (the cynic within me asks) makes blacks different how, exactly?

    Two thing comes to mind.  They as a group are about 40 to 45 % more exploitable than the general 50 50 state of our country. Also, they are a protected group that gets to do malicious political things without any oversight or consequences . Example . I hail from Mo outside of St. Louis . If that city is stuffing ballot boxes ( my Spidey sense tells me they always have and always will) to challenge that makes you a racist. No one and I mean No one will go there for obvious reasons . Hell just look a Philadelphia . My Spidey sense also thinks this goes on in every inner city across the country . This is one of the ways a Republican can win the eletoral contest and loose the popular vote .  I believe California does this too . 

    When a special privileged and protected group is exploited it has multiplier effect .     

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  14. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    If Democrats couldn’t exploit blacks, they’d have no use for them at all.

    I take your point.

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  15. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    If Democrats couldn’t exploit blacks, they’d have no use for them at all.

    And that (the cynic within me asks) makes blacks different how, exactly?

    Two thing comes to mind. They as a group are about 40 to 45 % more exploitable than the general 50 50 state of our country. Also, they are a protected group that gets to do malicious political things without any oversight or consequences . Example . I hail from Mo outside of St. Louis . If that city is stuffing ballot boxes ( my Spidey sense tells me they always have and always will) to challenge that makes you a racist. No one and I mean No one will go there for obvious reasons . Hell just look a Philadelphia . My Spidey sense also thinks this goes on in every inner city across the country . This is one of the ways a Republican can win the eletoral contest and loose the popular vote . I believe California does this too .

    When a special privileged and protected group is exploited it has multiplier effect .

    And yours, too.

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  16. Jim George Member
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    Western Chauvinist: Yes. James Carville’s home state of Louisiana. Look at this map from the NYT.

    The only thing James Carville and I have in common is that we both hail from The Gret Stet of Loooosiana.

    The blue line at the bottom of the state in the map is almost certainly Orleans Parish, probably somewhere in the range of 90% or more black plus what are called the River Parishes, St. Charles and St. John the Baptist, with black populations close to the Orleans number. 

    Thank you for your comment about capitalizing the word black; I was mentally drafting a comment when I saw yours, written much more persuasively than I could write it, but mine was simply going to be the question, with respect, of course, is the word white routinely capitalized? In my experience it is not but I would stand corrected if someone can point me to some research on the topic. If my understanding is correct, why should there be two different rules on capitalization if we are to follow Dr. King’s admonition?

    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):
    I find Carville’s presumption to be repulsively racist. It’s too bad more blacks* don’t see it that way. Are you a free-thinking person or a drone for the Left? 

    I find Carville himself quite simply execrable and cannot understand his cachet as a “consultant”; however, to be fair, that’s why he makes the big bucks and I don’t. I would also note, and I don’t want to get too far off the subject here in view of the recent kerfuffle regarding hijacking strings, in fairness I should note My Lady often played bridge with his Mother and greatly enjoyed her company as she was a most gracious lady. 

    May I request the link to that map, please?

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  17. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Jim George (View Comment):
    May I request the link to that map, please?

    Sorry, I just googled midterm map and picked that one. There are a bunch out there and some are probably interactive.

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  18. Brian Clendinen Member
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    I always hate maps that look at elections by geographic region without being weighted for Pop. Maps that shows Pop is more accurate at showing how much Dems control. Geographically only shows you how rules most of America is.

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  19. Jim George Member
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    Western Chauvinist (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):
    May I request the link to that map, please?

    Sorry, I just googled midterm map and picked that one. There are a bunch out there and some are probably interactive.

    Thanks

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  20. Jim George Member
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    Brian Clendinen (View Comment):

    I always hate maps that look at elections by geographic region without being weighted for Pop. Maps that shows Pop is more accurate at showing how much Dems control. Geographically only shows you how rules most of America is.

    As one known as POP to his Grandaughters and who is more weighted than he should be, I appreciated this comment. 

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