Razing Arizona

 

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock . . .

As we continue to wait on tenterhooks, with bated breath and dwindling confidence, for the ballots to be counted in the election for governor of Arizona, nearly a week later, we can’t help but wonder . . .  What in the blue blazes is going on in this state (and I do mean “blue”)?  How can this be happening again?

But we also wonder about the midterms overall.  What went wrong?  What happened to the red wave?  Why did it dissolve into a red trickle, or maybe even a red mirage?  I mean, weren’t the conditions in the country, which were directly caused by Biden and his lunatic party, bad enough to have caused more citizens to question their leadership and policies such that they would give the other party a chance?  You know, like almost every other midterm election in American history?  (The 2002 midterm was a notable exception having to do with 9/11.)  Apparently not so much, as it turned out, and assuming the tallies were honest, which may be a foolish assumption to make, at least across the board.  (Again, what the heck is going on in Arizona?)

A lot of theories have been bandied about — voter concern over abortion rights; unexpected turnout of brainwashed Gen Z voters; unmarried women who have become more dependent than ever on government — and I have no others to add.  But I will say that a couple of concepts seemed to have been verified as a result of the midterms (again, assuming the vote count was honest and accurate):

1.)  The blue states are gone, lost, unrecoverable, irremediably broken, and given over to Democrat depravity.  No amount of mismanagement or destruction can persuade a majority of blue-state citizens to consider a different path.  They are apparently satisfied and content with moral rot, rampant crime, open borders, out-of-control inflation, the sexualization and transgendering of children, and just a general downward spiral.  So they reelected governors like Gavin Newsom, Kathy Hochul, and Gretchen Whitmer, for instance.  These three are all depraved COVID tyrants, crime enablers, rainbow warriors, abortion lovers, and civilization destroyers, but the majority of voters in their states enthusiastically said, “Four more years!” Apparently, until the day comes when those voters are literally rummaging through garbage looking for food amongst the smoldering ruins of their cities, it’s all good.  They love abortion and Republicans are racist, so they’ll just keep pulling the lever for “D.”

2.)  Red states, by contrast, are savable, as evidenced by Florida, but that comes with a gigantic caveat.  They can be saved if, and only if, they receive the strongest, bravest, and wisest leadership that is humanly possible and which, therefore, is also vanishingly rare.  But nothing less than that has any chance of stopping the onslaught of leftist depravity that has engulfed much, if not most, of the country.

But wait a minute, you might be thinking.  Aren’t all red states effective havens from the ravages of leftist depravity?  Not on your life!  Other than Florida, no red states are deeply red in the same way that blue states are deeply blue.  Most red states are afflicted with and accepting of various degrees of leftism: COVID tyranny, the rainbow agenda, belief in apocalyptic climate change, belief in systemic racism, de-incarceration of criminals, etc.  All of these things occur routinely in red states because so many of their leaders accept so many of the premises of leftism and then govern accordingly.  In this day and time, when the spirit of the age is so destructive and pervasive, nothing less than a righteously defiant DeSantis-type can withstand the onslaught.

By the way, I wonder how many people understand how close the state of Florida came to disaster when DeSantis was elected by a pretty thin margin in 2018.  Here’s a fun fact: Florida almost elected to the governorship Andrew Gillum, a guy who, a couple of years later, was found puking and incoherent in a hotel room with an overdosing gay escort and bags of crystal meth laying around.  The former mayor of Tallahassee, Gillum would have been Florida’s first black governor (!), but alas, no such precedent was to be set.  Which was to the remarkable and great fortune of the state of Florida.  It really is startling how close Florida came to electing this reprobate who would have done untold damage, but instead it elected someone who has become the best governor in the country by leaps and bounds.  Florida went from purple to deep red, all because of the leadership of DeSantis and he was richly rewarded with a landslide reelection victory.

The best hope for America going forward is more red states electing fearless leaders like DeSantis.  That’s the only way decent, rational, God-fearing people are going to be able to live in some semblance of a free America that once was.  And forget about the blue states.  They can’t be fixed, so just kiss ’em goodbye.

Meanwhile, back in Arizona, as of this writing its fate is still being tabulated nearly a week after the election.  Well, stuff happens, right?  Malfunctioning tabulating machines, faulty printers, and so on.  Guess nobody had a chance to check them before the election, the date for which has been known since . . . well, since Arizona became a state in 1912, cuz, see, they occur every two years on the first Tuesday of November, so it’s pretty foreseeable.  But nothing funny’s going on, right?  Just some technical snafus.

If Kari Lake wins the governorship in Arizona, there is the potential for that purple state to be saved and become like the free state of Florida.  That’s because Lake is fearless, extremely articulate, even-tempered, imbued with common sense, and eager to call out the Pravda-like Democrat media at every turn.  If it goes the other way, though, that could put it on an irreversible course to becoming another . . . Pennsylvania, for instance, where the people chose for senator an incoherent stroke victim who looks like a character from the Addams Family over a Republican who’s hardly more conservative than Mitt Romney and would have amounted to little more than a speed bump on that state’s desired road to perdition.

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock . . .

Still waiting for the results, but the more time that elapses, the harder it becomes to believe that Arizona will escape a blue fate.

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  1. Kevin Schulte Member
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    It is utterly reprehensible what our fake republicans have allowed the left to do to our elections. 

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  2. Columbo Member
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    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    It is utterly reprehensible what our fake republicans have allowed the left to do to our elections.

    I blame GR.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

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  4. Columbo Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

    It wouldn’t be Katie Hobbs would it?! That would be unethical and a major conflict of interest, hmmm?  I wonder if any Arizona lawyers might analyze this conflict further?

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  5. Chris Williamson Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

    That’s the Stacey Abrams argument. Brian Kemp was Secretary of State in Georgia when he won in 2018.

    The legislature decides how the Secretary of State does his or her job.

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  6. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Greg Strange: By the way, I wonder how many people understand how close the state of Florida came to disaster when DeSantis was elected by a pretty thin margin in 2018.  Here’s a fun fact: Florida almost elected to the governorship Andrew Gillum, a guy who, a couple of years later, was found puking and incoherent in a hotel room with an overdosing gay escort and bags of crystal meth laying around.

    There was an awesome post about this last month.

    Mr. DeSantis won his election against Mr. Gillum by 0.4%.

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  7. Chris Williamson Member
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    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

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  8. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    I’m not at all sure that better polling and non-MAGA candidates would have made any difference.

    Maybe.  I hope so.  That’s a happy thought.

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    The “candidate quality” argument is the Mitch McConnell excuse, and it’s totally bogus. You can nominate the perfect candidate, and you’ll still lose in places where Democrats have perfected the steal.

    If we don’t get things fixed by 2024, it won’t matter who we nominate for President. The Democrat will win.

     

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  10. Columbo Member
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    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    Georgia schools are doing a ‘heck of a job’! Stacey Abrams and Rafael Warnock are worse than any MAGA candidate ever. And yet you bright Georgians keep choosing them.

    By the way, Warnock first beat Kelly Loeffler. Was that bad polling and MAGA candidate too?

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  11. Chris Williamson Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    The “candidate quality” argument is the Mitch McConnell excuse, and it’s totally bogus. You can nominate the perfect candidate, and you’ll still lose in places where Democrats have perfected the steal.

    If we don’t get things fixed by 2024, it won’t matter who we nominate for President. The Democrat will win.

     

    Here in Georgia you’ll remember we have brand-new laws that protect the integrity of elections. Still not working to get Walker elected.

    I agree that we need to change voting laws in some states. But that has to happen over more than two years.

    One good thing about the election: More Republicans voted than Democrats. Now if we could move those Republicans strategically among the states….

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  12. Chris Williamson Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    I’m not at all sure that better polling and non-MAGA candidates would have made any difference.

    Maybe. I hope so. That’s a happy thought.

    Always happy; think happy!

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  13. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

    It wouldn’t be Katie Hobbs would it?! That would be unethical and a major conflict of interest, hmmm? I wonder if any Arizona lawyers might analyze this conflict further?

    No, Katie Hobbs doesn’t run our elections.  This is the job of county officials.

    As Secretary of State, Hobbs is responsible for adding up the total number of votes reported by the counties.  She is not in charge of the actual counting.

    I’ve said this before, and y’all persist in failing to understand how things work in Arizona.  It is getting a bit annoying.

    I see it on the left and right.  People are ignorant of details, don’t know what’s going on, but nevertheless have very strong opinions based on misunderstandings.

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  14. Bishop Wash Member
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    Greg Strange: 1.)  The  blue states are gone, lost, unrecoverable, irremediably broken and given over to Democrat depravity.  No amount of mismanagement or destruction can persuade a majority of blue state citizens to consider a different path.  They are apparently satisfied and content with moral rot, rampant crime, open borders, out of control inflation, the sexualization and transgendering of children and just a general downward spiral.  So they reelected governors like Gavin Newsome, Kathy Hochul and Gretchen Whitmer, for instance.  These three are all depraved COVID tyrants, crime enablers, rainbow warriors, abortion lovers and civilization destroyers, but the majority of voters in their states enthusiastically said, “Four more years!”  Apparently, until the day comes when those voters are literally rummaging through garbage looking for food amongst the smoldering ruins of their cities, it’s all good.  They love abortion and Republicans are racist, so they’ll just keep pulling the lever for “D.”

    Alas poor New Mexico is too small and will be second fiddle to those big names. Michelle Wuhan Grisham tries to follow in those governors’ footsteps but isn’t quite at the same level. Cuomo sexually harassed women? Grisham grabbed the crotch of a campaign staffer. Newsome dined at the French Laundry? Grisham flouted her lockdown rules too by jewelry shopping. Fortunately, Grisham didn’t send senior citizens to die in nursing homes. Her antics barely get local notice.

    We too enthusiastically said “Give her four more years.” The state also gerrymandered the house districts so the big, urban metropolis of Albuquerque is represented by each of the three districts. The America loving people of eastern New Mexico have to compete with Albuquerque for their representative and of course all three seats are going for the Democrats. 

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  15. Al French Moderator
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    No, Katie Hobbs doesn’t run our elections. This is the job of county officials.

    As Secretary of State, Hobbs is responsible for adding up the total number of votes reported by the counties. She is not in charge of the actual counting.

    I’ve said this before, and y’all persist in failing to understand how things work in Arizona. It is getting a bit annoying.

    I see it on the left and right. People are ignorant of details, don’t know what’s going on, but nevertheless have very strong opinions based on misunderstandings.

    Yes.

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  16. Columbo Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

    It wouldn’t be Katie Hobbs would it?! That would be unethical and a major conflict of interest, hmmm? I wonder if any Arizona lawyers might analyze this conflict further?

    No, Katie Hobbs doesn’t run our elections. This is the job of county officials.

    As Secretary of State, Hobbs is responsible for adding up the total number of votes reported by the counties. She is not in charge of the actual counting.

    I’ve said this before, and y’all persist in failing to understand how things work in Arizona. It is getting a bit annoying.

    I see it on the left and right. People are ignorant of details, don’t know what’s going on, but nevertheless have very strong opinions based on misunderstandings.

    It’s not the facts of the job or its responsibilities. It’s the seriousness of the charge! TM

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  17. Al French Moderator
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    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    Nationally, in house races Rs substantially out performed Ds. I’m curious how much reapportionment and gerrymandering had to do with it. Oregon got an additional seat and the Ds had a free hand in drawing the districts. It appears that they did a poor job of it, as Rs flipped one district and there is still one undecided. But I suspect the Ds were more competent in other states.

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  18. Quickz Member
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    Thanks for this post.

    I have posted elsewhere that in a number of these areas that were close or close-ish it seems that the advent of Massive Mail in Ballots and Ballot Harvesting was the norm. Also the GOP Machine did not seem to engage in the tactics of playing under the New Rules, like Rep. Nunez  (hopefully others) did in 2020.

    Those wins, even by playing under rules we loathe and wish to change, can bring hopeful RDS-like leaders that can fix election law and more importantly shore up and “Red” those States/areas.

    Since these new rules were already known going into this election I am left to wonder – why didn’t the GOP Machine play under them? Or did they? I am not hearing much about this so I imagine they did not, but would be happy to be shown I am mistaken.

    Seems like the Red Wave was avoided with the New Rules being played by only one side…

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  19. Flicker Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Greg Strange: How can this be happening again?

    Guess who the Secretary of State in Arizona is? (That is, the person who runs their elections?)

     

    It wouldn’t be Katie Hobbs would it?! That would be unethical and a major conflict of interest, hmmm? I wonder if any Arizona lawyers might analyze this conflict further?

    It’s all legal, I’m sure.  So that makes it right and moral.

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Columbo (View Comment):

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):

    It is utterly reprehensible what our fake republicans have allowed the left to do to our elections.

    I blame GR.

    And GR likes to take credit for it, although it’s totally specious.

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  21. Annefy Member
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    Cui bono

    Enough people (on both sides of the aisle) to ensure it won’t change any time soon.

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  22. Unsk Member
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    No, Katie Hobbs doesn’t run our elections. This is the job of county officials.

    As Secretary of State, Hobbs is responsible for adding up the total number of votes reported by the counties. She is not in charge of the actual counting.

    Gee Jerry, can you explain why it was only the Republican area voting machines seemingly   in Zona that were breaking down? 

    Also a couple big reasons why the Pubs didn’t do as well as expected:

    1. Ballot Harvesting – where the infirmed, ner  do well, and  homeless all vote with just a few little incentives on their conveniently distributed mail in ballot  right to their  place of er.. residence or tent as it may be.  Some want the Pubs to get into the act but most Pubs lack the absence of scruples necessary to really excel at that job. Ballot Harvesting is really only possible with the new “mail in ballot” regime, and I think too many moderate Pubs think our cherished public servants and Dem campaign workers would never stoop to such low despicable behavior. Best think again. 
    2. Almost no Pubs want to explain to the 18-29 crowd who voted for the Dems by a margin of 29% why their generation is getting really screwed by the government and why most will never get a good job, never be able to raise a family except by accident or will never own a home.  I know, I  know …… then the Pubs might have to explain themselves beyond the typical sound bites but it’s time to  roll up your sleeves and explain what is happening to the country  in sufficient detail to understand the problem and stop being such cowards!
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  23. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Here in GA the Libertarians cost us the outright win.

    Losertatians is a beeptter name.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    No, Katie Hobbs doesn’t run our elections. This is the job of county officials.

    As Secretary of State, Hobbs is responsible for adding up the total number of votes reported by the counties. She is not in charge of the actual counting.

    Gee Jerry, can you explain why it was only the Republican area voting machines seemingly in Zona that were breaking down?

    Also a couple big reasons why the Pubs didn’t do as well as expected:

    1. Ballot Harvesting – where the infirmed, ner do well, and homeless all vote with just a few little incentives on their conveniently distributed mail in ballot right to their place of er.. residence or tent as it may be. Some want the Pubs to get into the act but most Pubs lack the absence of scruples necessary to really excel at that job. Ballot Harvesting is really only possible with the new “mail in ballot” regime, and I think too many moderate Pubs think our cherished public servants and Dem campaign workers would never stoop to such low despicable behavior. Best think again.
    2. Almost no Pubs want to explain to the 18-29 crowd who voted for the Dems by a margin of 29% why their generation is getting really screwed by the government and why most will never get a good job, never be able to raise a family except by accident or will never own a home. I know, I know …… then the Pubs might have to explain themselves beyond the typical sound bites but it’s time to roll up your sleeves and explain what is happening to the country in sufficient detail to understand the problem and stop being such cowards!

    A lot of those 18-29 crowd, perhaps most, don’t care about raising a family or owning a home, until it’s too late.  Lots of women think they can just take their time and have kids in their 40s.  Sorry ladies, but pretty much no.

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  25. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Quickz (View Comment):

    Thanks for this post.

    I have posted elsewhere that in a number of these areas that were close or close-ish it seems that the advent of Massive Mail in Ballots and Ballot Harvesting was the norm. Also the GOP Machine did not seem to engage in the tactics of playing under the New Rules, like Rep. Nunez (hopefully others) did in 2020.

    Those wins, even by playing under rules we loathe and wish to change, can bring hopeful RDS-like leaders that can fix election law and more importantly shore up and “Red” those States/areas.

    Since these new rules were already known going into this election I am left to wonder – why didn’t the GOP Machine play under them? Or did they? I am not hearing much about this so I imagine they did not, but would be happy to be shown I am mistaken.

    Seems like the Red Wave was avoided with the New Rules being played by only one side…

    We had a historic red wave in our county. For the first time ever the County Council has a GOP majority. Not a squish among them.  For the first time several county-wide offices will be held by Republicans.

    How did this happen?  A number of factors played a role. Let me highlight one in particular: old-fashioned door to door outreach. We out worked and out hustled the Democrats. Many candidates had hit 30% of their targets by the end of August.

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Here in GA the Libertarians cost us the outright win.

    Losertatians is a beeptter name.

    That might be what happened with the governor’s race in Oregon too.  The “Independent” candidate took more than 2x the number of votes the Republican would have needed to win decisively.  But, would all of those votes have gone to the Republican?  Who knows?

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  27. Al French Moderator
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Here in GA the Libertarians cost us the outright win.

    Losertatians is a beeptter name.

    That might be what happened with the governor’s race in Oregon too. The “Independent” candidate took more than 2x the number of votes the Republican would have needed to win decisively. But, would all of those votes have gone to the Republican? Who knows?

    In Oregon the independent is a moderate Democrat. If she hadn’t run the Dems would have won easily.

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  28. db25db Lincoln
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Chris Williamson (View Comment):

    What happened to the red wave?

    Bad polling and MAGA candidates. Here in Georgia we’re probably going to have Raphael Warnock for a six-year term.

    I’m not at all sure that better polling and non-MAGA candidates would have made any difference.

    Maybe. I hope so. That’s a happy thought.

    you genuinely don’t believe a better candidate than walker could have cruised like Kemp to victory?  perhaps said candidate doesn’t exist.  walker is so clearly flawed.  you see a similar situation in New Hampshire as well.

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  29. db25db Lincoln
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    Al French (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Here in GA the Libertarians cost us the outright win.

    Losertatians is a beeptter name.

    That might be what happened with the governor’s race in Oregon too. The “Independent” candidate took more than 2x the number of votes the Republican would have needed to win decisively. But, would all of those votes have gone to the Republican? Who knows?

    In Oregon the independent is a moderate Democrat. If she hadn’t run the Dems would have won easily.

    As a person who lived 29 years in oregon, I maintain the problem with oregon is it has entirely too many democrats.  Republicans routinely blame 3 counties, but 60% of the state lives in them, and as must be reminded, people vote, not land.  the problem is only growing.  George Bush lost the state in 2000 by 7k votes.  Donald Teump lost it by 400k (16%).  Chris Dudley came within a couple points of the governorship in 2010.  but Rs are routinely in the 42-45% range in statewide elections.  there just aren’t enough of us.  I don’t know if you’ve ever spent much time in the northwest, but it differs from many other parts of the country in that you never see big swings here.  The left is very left and the right is very right, and there just aren’t a lot of persuadable people.  I spent years trying.  maybe I’m just bad at it

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  30. db25db Lincoln
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    interesting points.  As we all wonder what went wrong I think it’s only natural to look for a simple solution or point of blame.  I’ve told that Gilliam joke a few times myself, but to be fair, no one at the time of the election knew he was going to go on a meth’d out gay sex bender.  His ideas were entirely leftist, but he was well spoken and propped up by the usual suspects in the media.  Meanwhile DeSantis was fighting the fake racist scandal of saying ‘don’t monkey it up.’ in a Democratic wave year.  Also, no one truly knows what a person is made until they start governing.

    I wonder though, you look at Mike dewine in Ohio and he won by 25%,well ahead of JD Vance’s 8ish%.  Mike is about as milquetoast as they come and not exactly my type of Republican, but clearly voters in Ohio like that he is not a blowtorch on every issue. Sununu cruised to reelection while MAGA man finished about 20 points behind in New Hampshire.  maybe that guy would have been better on policy, but you can’t effect policy if you can’t win.  I like Kari Lake, but she’s struggling mightily in a state 4 years ago Doug D cruised to re-election in a D wave year by 400k.  Is that because of cheating or because a majority of AZ voters don’t like firebrands?  honest question to you AZ residents?   your state has a history of electing moderate sounding politicians.  Your current democrat senators fit that description as well.  we all know they’ll vote far left almost always  but they sound moderate in tone. 

    speaking of policy, more discussions of it would be great.  I couldn’t tell you what the vast majority of Republican politicians actually want to do specifically beyond not being democrats.  Which is good enough for me, but not enough to close with voters who are concerned about a different set of issue than me.

     

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