Meet the New Republicans; Same as the Old Republicans

 

RNC Chair Ronna McDaniel (Mitt Romney’s niece) signals that if Republicans win the House and Senate they will work together with President Biden.

“If we win back the House and the Senate, it’s the American people saying to Joe Biden, we want you to work on behalf of us and we want you to work across the aisle and solve the problems that we are dealing with. Bill Clinton did that, right? After ’94, when he lost those midterms, he came across and said, let’s work together. It will be interesting to see if President Biden does that.” (Snip)

“And Republicans will be a partner?” asked (CNN’s Dana Bash).

“Yes,” McDaniel replied.

Republicans look forward to working with the president that called them “semi-fascists” and “a threat to democracy” just a few days ago.

Related: Joe Biden is reportedly saddened and perplexed that his presidency has not healed and reconciled our divided country

And so these are frustrating, even perplexing times for Mr. Biden, who according to confidants had expected the fever of polarizing politics to have broken by now and was surprised that it had not. The presidency he envisioned, one where he presided over a moment of reconciliation, is not the presidency he has gotten.

“Why won’t those semi-fascists just shut up and join me in healing?”

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  1. Judge Mental Member
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    I imagine Joe Biden is perplexed by all sorts of things.

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  2. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Victor Tango Kilo: Republicans pledge to cooperate and support the president that called them “semi-fascists” and “a threat to democracy” just a few days ago.

    What choice do they have?  It would be swell if Republicans had at least a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress and they could override any Biden vetoes.  But nobody is predicting anything like those numbers.  If they want to get any legislation passed or repealed, they need to be able to get Biden’s signature.

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  3. Bishop Wash Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo: “Why won’t those semi-fascists just shut up and join me in healing?”

    Takes after his boss.

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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I think her tone was far too conciliatory. She’s not in Congress, and she was in a great position to say that in spite of Biden’s lies, insults, and reluctance to compromise, the Republicans will suck it up and find a way to work with him. Or something to that effect.

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  5. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    This post looks like a misunderstanding, or misrepresentation, of what McDaniel said. I hope it’s just a misunderstanding.

    You might want to read the quote again, because she didn’t say what you say she said.

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  6. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I think her tone was far too conciliatory. She’s not in Congress, and she was in a great position to say that in spite of Biden’s lies, insults, and reluctance to compromise, the Republicans will suck it up and find a way to work with him. Or something to that effect.

    The challenge that the Chair faces at this time is not getting dedicated Republicans to vote Republican.  It is to persuade middle-of-the-road, non-partisan voters to vote Republican.  A message crafted to appeal to us may not be the message that would be the most appealing to people whom are not particularly ideological and make up their minds just days (or hours) before voting.

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  7. Henry Racette Moderator
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    I guess the alternative to asking the President to work with Republicans would be for Republicans to say, in effect: We intend to do nothing for two years, because we don’t have a veto-proof majority.

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with McDaniel’s statement.

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  8. Hoyacon Member
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    That’s politi-speak.  I don’t much like McDaniel but I think that you’re reading too much into it.  

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  9. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    This post looks like a misunderstanding, or misrepresentation, of what McDaniel said. I hope it’s just a misunderstanding.

    Feel free to explain what I got wrong when I copied and pasted her quote.

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  10. Django Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I guess the alternative to asking the President to work with Republicans would be for Republicans to say, in effect: We intend to do nothing for two years, because we don’t have a veto-proof majority.

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with McDaniel’s statement.

    Blocking further harmful actions by the Biden administration is definitely not doing nothing. That is the main goal. 

    Finding any areas of agreement will be difficult, but “we’re open to suggestions”. 

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  11. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Django (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I guess the alternative to asking the President to work with Republicans would be for Republicans to say, in effect: We intend to do nothing for two years, because we don’t have a veto-proof majority.

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with McDaniel’s statement.

    Blocking further harmful actions by the Biden administration is definitely not doing nothing. That is the main goal.

    Finding any areas of agreement will be difficult, but “we’re open to suggestions”.

    I certainly did not expect to see Bill Clinton move to the center after the Dems got the pants beaten off of them in a mid-term election, but he did.  Bill Clinton was a lot smarter than Joe Biden, though, so who knows what will happen this time.

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  12. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    This is a pain election not a personal ideology election.  If there is a red wave it is because people are hurting on inflation, crime and the education of their children and they want the pain to go away.  Republicans have an obligation to block any of Biden’s agenda that will cause more pain and to propose and work with the president on any items that will address these sources of pain.  So she is right this time. 

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  13. Django Member
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    I guess the alternative to asking the President to work with Republicans would be for Republicans to say, in effect: We intend to do nothing for two years, because we don’t have a veto-proof majority.

    I see absolutely nothing wrong with McDaniel’s statement.

    Blocking further harmful actions by the Biden administration is definitely not doing nothing. That is the main goal.

    Finding any areas of agreement will be difficult, but “we’re open to suggestions”.

    I certainly did not expect to see Bill Clinton move to the center after the Dems got the pants beaten off of them in a mid-term election, but he did. Bill Clinton was a lot smarter than Joe Biden, though, so who knows what will happen this time.

    Biden is just barely smart enough to walk and chew gum simultaneously but has always been stupid enough to think he is the smartest person in the room. I expect no changes except that he will yell louder in his speeches. 

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  14. TBA Coolidge
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    Victor Tango Kilo:

    Republicans look forward to working with the president that called them “semi-fascists” and “a threat to democracy” just a few days ago.

    “Oh, we didn’t mean you Mittens, we were talking about those other Republicans.” 

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  15. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):
    Biden is just barely smart enough to walk and chew gum simultaneously but has always been stupid enough to think he is the smartest person in the room. I expect no changes except that he will yell louder in his speeches. 

    best description of Biden I’ve heard!  Will steal often.

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  16. Django Member
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    Gossamer Cat (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Biden is just barely smart enough to walk and chew gum simultaneously but has always been stupid enough to think he is the smartest person in the room. I expect no changes except that he will yell louder in his speeches.

    best description of Biden I’ve heard! Will steal often.

    Speaking of good images/descriptions: 

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  17. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    My only point is that if Republicans “beat the cheat” and manage to secure majorities in both houses of Congress, there is no reason to expect them to be any more effective than they were with their majorities under Obama. That is to say, not at all. And Ronna McDaniel’s statement is a datapoint in favor of that analysis.

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  18. Franco Inactive
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    The way she frames this is why Republicans are so ineffective even when they win.

    First, I don’t think Ronna knows what the American people are saying. I think it’s more like: This nonsense must end!

    They aren’t saying they want Biden to work “across the aisle” and “solve problems”.

    I doubt Americans believe that Biden is capable of solving problems and many believe Biden and/or the people using him even want to solve problems. They want to create problems and fissures they can exploit – or believe they can exploit is my personal view. 
    To pretend otherwise is a fantasy.

    I believe the RNC is a sham organization.
    Remember Michael Steele, who said on MSNBC recently “assume all Republicans are dangerous until proven otherwise”. 
    It’s actually good advice, but not in the way he intends.

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Franco (View Comment):
    I believe the RNC is a sham organization.
    Remember Michael Steele, who said on MSNBC recently “assume all Republicans are dangerous until proven otherwise”. 
    It’s actually good advice, but not in the way he intends.

    That was one of the nicer things he said. I believe he said that Republicans were trash and vermin and needed to be hunted down and executed. Or something to that effect.

    Steele turns out to be as much of a fake Republican as Bill Kristol, Charlie Sykes, or Mitt Romney.

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  20. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    My only point is that if Republicans “beat the cheat” and manage to secure majorities in both houses of Congress, there is no reason to expect them to be any more effective than they were with their majorities under Obama. That is to say, not at all. And Ronna McDaniel’s statement is a datapoint in favor of that analysis.

    Can’t disagree with your concern.  It’s the Republican MO.  I already have two letters planned for McCarthy and McConnell to that effect. 

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  21. WillowSpring Member
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    Randy Weivoda (View Comment):
    If they want to get any legislation passed or repealed, they need to be able to get Biden’s signature.

    I would be satisfied if they blocked spending money – like a new FBI building  – until a proper oversight of government is done.  I don’t want to hear that Biden will veto such and so, so there is no point (that is so Paul Ryan) – I want to know what the republicans stand for and why the country should elect a Republican in 2024.  Otherwise, it won’t happen.

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    I imagine Joe Biden is perplexed by all sorts of things.

    Joe Biden is perplexed that he keeps waking up in the morning.

    And so am I.

    (About HIM waking up, not myself…)

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I think her tone was far too conciliatory. She’s not in Congress, and she was in a great position to say that in spite of Biden’s lies, insults, and reluctance to compromise, the Republicans will suck it up and find a way to work with him. Or something to that effect.

    I would prefer they find ways to work AROUND him.

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  24. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    They should be promising one thing and one thing only:

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach. 

     

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  25. Franco Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    They should be promising one thing and one thing only:

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.

     

    No matter how well deserved, it’s not a good idea strategically. I think it might be better as a threat than a reality.

    Further I want Jill to push him for a second term, thus causing problems in the Dem primary plans. We  may need them to be in total disarray because we will be having our own difficulties. Also Republicans could possibly take a Senate supermajority in 2024. 
    Second, I want the new Republican congress to focus on helping Americans fight these policies than fight individual people such as Biden, who isn’t worth the time. He’s not competent to stand trial. 

    The RINOS hide behind how bad Democrats are as a strategy and they love talking about Democrats to unite the base behind them. We are all supposed to bond in laughing at Democrats. (I’m wise to that tactical maneuver now) Then when in power, the establishment goes back to doing nothing.

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Franco (View Comment):
    Also Republicans could possibly take a Senate supermajority in 2024. 

    McConnell would never allow that.

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  27. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    They should be promising one thing and one thing only:

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.

     

    No matter how well deserved, it’s not a good idea strategically. I think it might be better as a threat than a reality.

    Further I want Jill to push him for a second term, thus causing problems in the Dem primary plans. We may need them to be in total disarray because we will be having our own difficulties. Also Republicans could possibly take a Senate supermajority in 2024.
    Second, I want the new Republican congress to focus on helping Americans fight these policies than fight individual people such as Biden, who isn’t worth the time. He’s not competent to stand trial.

    The RINOS hide behind how bad Democrats are as a strategy and they love talking about Democrats to unite the base behind them. We are all supposed to bond in laughing at Democrats. (I’m wise to that tactical maneuver now) Then when in power, the establishment goes back to doing nothing.

    I totally disagree. The Democrats need to be met with their own actions. Impeach them all. If we get the POTUS< then launch Investigations of Biden and all his supporters. 

    The only thing we can do now it treat them like they treat us. Period. 

    Stop playing a game for 2024. That is what the GOP always says “Just Wait”

    No.

    Scorch the Earth Now while you can. Trump’s Presidency showed us that. 

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  28. Django Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    They should be promising one thing and one thing only:

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.

    No matter how well deserved, it’s not a good idea strategically. I think it might be better as a threat than a reality.

    Further I want Jill to push him for a second term, thus causing problems in the Dem primary plans. We may need them to be in total disarray because we will be having our own difficulties. Also Republicans could possibly take a Senate supermajority in 2024.
    Second, I want the new Republican congress to focus on helping Americans fight these policies than fight individual people such as Biden, who isn’t worth the time. He’s not competent to stand trial.

    The RINOS hide behind how bad Democrats are as a strategy and they love talking about Democrats to unite the base behind them. We are all supposed to bond in laughing at Democrats. (I’m wise to that tactical maneuver now) Then when in power, the establishment goes back to doing nothing.

    I totally disagree. The Democrats need to be met with their own actions. Impeach them all. If we get the POTUS< then launch Investigations of Biden and all his supporters.

    The only thing we can do now it treat them like they treat us. Period.

    Stop playing a game for 2024. That is what the GOP always says “Just Wait”

    No.

    Scorch the Earth Now while you can. Trump’s Presidency showed us that.

    I’d rather nail Merrick Garland if there’s a constitutional way to do it. Wandering Joe is comic relief compared to Garland who still believes he should have a seat on the SCOTUS and wants to make anyone who disagrees pay dearly. He is vicious.

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  29. Franco Inactive
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    They should be promising one thing and one thing only:

    Impeach, Impeach, Impeach.

     

    No matter how well deserved, it’s not a good idea strategically. I think it might be better as a threat than a reality.

    Further I want Jill to push him for a second term, thus causing problems in the Dem primary plans. We may need them to be in total disarray because we will be having our own difficulties. Also Republicans could possibly take a Senate supermajority in 2024.
    Second, I want the new Republican congress to focus on helping Americans fight these policies than fight individual people such as Biden, who isn’t worth the time. He’s not competent to stand trial.

    The RINOS hide behind how bad Democrats are as a strategy and they love talking about Democrats to unite the base behind them. We are all supposed to bond in laughing at Democrats. (I’m wise to that tactical maneuver now) Then when in power, the establishment goes back to doing nothing.

    I totally disagree. The Democrats need to be met with their own actions. Impeach them all. If we get the POTUS< then launch Investigations of Biden and all his supporters.

    The only thing we can do now it treat them like they treat us. Period.

    Stop playing a game for 2024. That is what the GOP always says “Just Wait”

    No.

    Scorch the Earth Now while you can. Trump’s Presidency showed us that.

    I agree in spirit but I think Biden is just the wrong target. Democrats aren’t invested in Biden. He’s a throwaway.

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  30. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Franco (View Comment):

    Democrats aren’t invested in Biden. He’s a throwaway.

    They’re using him as a human shield. It just helps that he is one of the most despicable politicians ever (and regrettably) elected in the United States.

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