‘Ron DeSanctimonious’

 

The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

“There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

“Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

So why the gratuitous swipe?

Your guess is as good as mine, but we have to keep in mind that it is the nature of politics and the men/women who pursue office to make their own fortunes paramount (even if they genuinely feel that what they want is best for the people). Political alliances are fragile and mostly transactional. You never want a hug from a politician as it might be concealing a knife — handshakes with the sword hand is to be preferred.

Maybe DeSantis missed an opportunity to make his deferral to Trump more clear, more public. I don’t know. Preemptive strike this may be. I am looking forward to DeSantis making lemonade out of the jab. For he must, otherwise he has handed a potent weapon to his future political opposition. Maybe something like, “I appreciate President Trump’s putting me up for sainthood, but we have far too much work to do together before I have earned that title.”

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  1. She Member
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    Rodin: So why the gratuitous swipe?

    It’s his nature.

    He got away with it in 2016, by being the much-needed disruptor, and (fortunately from his point-of-view) finding himself running in the general election against one of the most widely-reviled and deeply-loathed figures in American political history.  And in the primaries, his attacks on Marco, Ted, and Jeb! (who actually were running against him for the nomination) amused as much as appalled, and generally hit home in his characterizations of them.

    DeSantis may be a horse of a different feather. (Alert to pedants-on-patrol: I know.)  He says, at least today, that he won’t run.  He’s spent the last four years in the trenches doing real work, being enormously successful, and distinguishing his state by at least a factor of head-and-shoulders above most others.  He hasn’t staked his political career on attacking Trump, like Liz Cheney, and he doesn’t have the adversarial history that Trump has with Pence.

    I can’t imagine why he would be willing, or need, to play the frog to Trump’s scorpion.

    This might be the first mistake of Trump’s 2024 presidential run.

    🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

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  2. Freeven Member
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    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is…  Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

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  3. Seawriter Contributor
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    I think Trump is going to find DeSantis is no “Little” Marco or “Low-T” Jeb.  If Trump mixes it up with DeSantis, Trump is going to get his head handed to him by DeSantis, and DeSantis will do it in a way that won’t alienate Trump’s supporters. (Only Never-Trumpers, who will transfer their bile to DeSantis.) Moreover, in a way that respects Trump and Trump’s accomplishments. 

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  4. She Member
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    Remember this?  I do:

     

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  5. Hoyacon Member
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    There is good Trump and bad Trump.  I think most of us agree that, on governing, it’s mostly good Trump.  This is bad Trump, and I don’t write it off to “Trump being Trump.”  I agree with the O/P’s “gratuitous” characterization.

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  6. The Great Adventure Inactive
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    In 2024 Trump will be as old as Biden was when he took office.  I’m tired of senile old dinosaurs.  Even worse, I’m tired of dinosaurs who can’t stop childishly calling other people names.  Grow up and find a comfy retirement home.

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  7. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    That was a nasty and unnecessary thing for Trump to say. 

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  8. Rodin Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”? Here are some of the comments —

    Boomer Jen

    I’m an independent, non-affiliated voter, and a Christian. I find this ad as hilariously revealing of their narcissism, especially that shot of DeSanctimonious (man can Trump call ‘em) at the end with his chin held high gazing out over the proletariat he’s been anointed to protect. Almost reminds me of that bourgeoisie pose of Obama’s with his chin held high.

    nochops1

    Wow! I never thought I’d see something more cringe than Russell Wilson’s Dangerwich commercial. guess I was wrong.

    Bob Isolano

    People see this and get teary eyed and look for a flag to hug, but most people say WTFF and I’m sure they’re not all democrats!

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  9. Freeven Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

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  10. Hoyacon Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/necessawatch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    So is the idea that this somehow excuses Trump’s comment?  I don’t know how I feel about invoking “God”— I probably would not have gone there— but the substance of the ad is pretty much accurate.

     

     

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  11. Rodin Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    Yes, it looks like he did it. Well, I guess he earned Trump’s sobriquet. Somebody goofed on this. Yes, being a “fighter” is a good thing. Suggesting that God made you to be the fighter comes off as, well, “sanctimonious”. I am not sure how DeSantis triangulates out of this, but I think he should.

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  12. Hoyacon Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    Yes, it looks like he did it. Well, I guess he earned Trump’s sobriquet. Somebody goofed on this. Yes, being a “fighter” is a good thing. Suggesting that God made you to be the fighter comes off as, well, “sanctimonious”. I am not sure how DeSantis triangulates out of this, but I think he should.

    Assuming that was the reference, you really think it’s OK for Trump to call another Republican out on this when this there isn’t even a race between the two?

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  13. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I’m surprised at the ad; not something I would expect from DeSantis. But Trump was a jerk for his comment. I’m going to be cringing for the next few weeks; reports are that Trump is going to announce by the end of the month. Not happy about it.

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  14. Freeven Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/necessawatch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    So is the idea that this somehow excuses Trump’s comment? I don’t know how I feel about invoking “God”— I probably would not have gone there— but the substance of the ad is pretty much accurate.

    I’m not sure what “idea” you’re asking about.

    If you’re referring to my “Trump is… Trump” comment, my point is that Trump has thin skin and reflexively lashes out at any hint of a slight. He’s like a dog that is compelled to chase a thrown stick. This can be good or bad, depending.

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  15. Rodin Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    So is the idea that this somehow excuses Trump’s comment?  I don’t know how I feel about invoking “God”— I probably would not have gone there— but the substance of the ad is pretty much accurate.

     

    I am now much less critical of President Trump’s swipe than I was at first. There are so many ways that DeSantis could have promoted his “fighter” image. And yes, the Paul Harvey “Farmer” tale used as the inspiration for the ad was a good one. But a “farmer” is a nameless category of productive humans of whom we are all reliant upon. The reframing of the Paul Harvey story into a single individual’s political ad was aggrandizing in a way that surprised me from DeSantis. 

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  16. Hoyacon Member
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    Freeven (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Freeven (View Comment):

    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/necessawatch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    So is the idea that this somehow excuses Trump’s comment? I don’t know how I feel about invoking “God”— I probably would not have gone there— but the substance of the ad is pretty much accurate.

    I’m not sure what “idea” you’re asking about.

    If you’re referring to my “Trump is… Trump” comment, my point is that Trump has thin skin and reflexively lashes out at any hint of a slight. He’s like a dog that is compelled to chase a thrown stick. This can be good or bad, depending.

    That wasn’t directed at you.  It’s a pretty standard claim in my experience.

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  17. Underground Conservative Inactive
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    I’m tired of Trump. It’s time to move on.

    The Great Adventure (View Comment):

    In 2024 Trump will be as old as Biden was when he took office. I’m tired of senile old dinosaurs. Even worse, I’m tired of dinosaurs who can’t stop childishly calling other people names. Grow up and find a comfy retirement home.

    Well stated. I’m tired of it and want to move on. Those who want Trump to run in 2024 seem only to be doing it for spite or “to own the libs.”  It’s time to get serious and get some real work done. Flinging poo isn’t the way.  If Trump had any decency, he’d shut up and build up the next candidate. Just because many of us voted for Trump in 2020, doesn’t mean we pledged loyalty for life. There is a time and place for everything and his time and place are over.

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  18. Rodin Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Assuming that was the reference, you really think it’s OK for Trump to call another Republican out on this when this there isn’t even a race between the two?

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    I’m surprised at the ad; not something I would expect from DeSantis. But Trump was a jerk for his comment. I’m going to be cringing for the next few weeks; reports are that Trump is going to announce by the end of the month. Not happy about it.

    I think what we are all feeling is the need for an effective champion for constitutional values at the national level. Trump was an effective champion to a degree (and certainly better than the available options). DeSantis is an effective champion at the state level with promise to be the same at the national level. There are other names — Tom Cotton, Mike Pompeo — come to mind but do not have the current sizzle of a Trump or DeSantis. So we are really irritated that any conflict would arise between them and lessen the chances of the much needed national restoration of rights. I get that. It was an unforced error on DeSantis’ part and its unfortunate that Trump drew a line under that error.

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  19. Hoyacon Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m surprised at the ad; not something I would expect from DeSantis. But Trump was a jerk for his comment. I’m going to be cringing for the next few weeks; reports are that Trump is going to announce by the end of the month. Not happy about it.

    It’s hard to find out much about the ad because the coverage is mostly from the likes of HuffPo, for whom any mention of “God” is the proverbial red flag.

    It does appear that it was released last Friday.  Do we really think De Santis did not “ test” it?  Do we know whether it was targeted at certain communities or where it was released?

    And query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad?  In any event, DJT MYOB.

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  20. Rodin Member
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    Now I am thinking that DeSantis’ best play is to come out and say, “You know, I really earned that one. I am a fighter, but I am not anointed of God and I now see that that ad was not the right message. This incident just shows how good President Trump is at identifying problems in short and clear ways. All of us in public life need to keep ourselves grounded and focused on what the people want and need. That is what I have been doing. President Trump said he was no angel, and I don’t know of any politicians, including myself who are. But we can work effectively together to ensure the rights of everyday Americans.”

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  21. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    It’s hard to find out much about the ad because the coverage is mostly from the likes of HuffPo, for whom any mention of “God” is the proverbial red flag.

    It does appear that it was released last Friday.  Do we really think De Santis did not “ test” it?  Do we know whether it was targeted at certain communities or where it was released?

    The ad has his name at the end and his campaign logo. I haven’t seen it on TV, but if it’s still running, it’s on him. And hopefully he pays attention to the blowback. It’s just not a good look.

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  22. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Now I am thinking that DeSantis’ best play is to come out and say, “You know, I really earned that one. I am a fighter, but I am not anointed of God and I now see that that ad was not the right message. This incident just shows how good President Trump is at identifying problems in short and clear ways. All of us in public life need to keep ourselves grounded and focused on what the people want and need. That is what I have been doing. President Trump said he was no angel, and I don’t know of any politicians, including myself who are. But we can work effectively together to ensure the rights of everyday Americans.”

    You should send this to the DeSantis campaign!!

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  23. Rodin Member
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    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m surprised at the ad; not something I would expect from DeSantis. But Trump was a jerk for his comment. I’m going to be cringing for the next few weeks; reports are that Trump is going to announce by the end of the month. Not happy about it.

    It’s hard to find out much about the ad because the coverage is mostly from the likes of HuffPo, for whom any mention of “God” is the proverbial red flag.

    It does appear that it was released last Friday. Do we really think De Santis did not “ test” it? Do we know whether it was targeted at certain communities or where it was released?

    And query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad? In any event, DJT MYOB.

    There might be an evangelical audience for the ad, but you can’t put something on the internet that has narrow appeal without the risk of it being used as a cudgel. And DeSantis and his team should have known better. Someone or several someones had some blinders on when they posted it. 

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  24. Hoyacon Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):
    And query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad?  

    I agree, and it’s because the “God” mentions detract from the fact that the substance of the ad is correct.  But I ask again:

    Query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad?  

     

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
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    Did DeSantis really say, when asked if he was going to run, “No” or did he just give an evasive deflection of saying that he was trying to defeat Crist?  Did he answer honestly and say that he’s keeping his options open?  Because that’s what it sounds like he’s doing.  “The only worn out old donkey I’m looking to put out to pasture is Charlie Crist.”  I think the non-answer answer indicates Yes.

    To say that Fox or DeSantis “indicated” he won’t run is like taking the measure of a spinning wind vane in a storm.  But even Fox clearly says, “DeSantis refused to say during a debate last month whether he will run in 2024 fueling speculation that he is considering throwing his hat in the ring.”

    I believe that DeSantis knows that he wants to run, and intends to run, and knows he can run with the support he’s already gotten, but doesn’t know if he will run.

    And Trump probably knows more than most anyone else if DeSantis intends to run, he’s got experience and personal connections.  And DeSantis has gotten, what, a 100 million dollars left over from his run for governor to campaign for POTUS while in office in Florida?

    And Trump’s “Desanctimonious” is in response to DeSantis’ overtly prophet-of-God self-depiction in his recent ad for governor.  The gloves are certainly starting to come off.  DeSantis is being wooed by big money to run.  You all knew this was coming.

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  26. Hoyacon Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I’m surprised at the ad; not something I would expect from DeSantis. But Trump was a jerk for his comment. I’m going to be cringing for the next few weeks; reports are that Trump is going to announce by the end of the month. Not happy about it.

    It’s hard to find out much about the ad because the coverage is mostly from the likes of HuffPo, for whom any mention of “God” is the proverbial red flag.

    It does appear that it was released last Friday. Do we really think De Santis did not “ test” it? Do we know whether it was targeted at certain communities or where it was released?

    And query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad? In any event, DJT MYOB.

    There might be an evangelical audience for the ad, but you can’t put something on the internet that has narrow appeal without the risk of it being used as a cudgel. And DeSantis and his team should have known better. Someone or several someones had some blinders on when they posted it.

    Agreed.  This is, after all, the world of slime that is politics.  

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  27. Rodin Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    “You know, I really earned that one. I am a fighter, but I am not anointed of God and I now see that that ad was not the right message. This incident just shows how good President Trump is at identifying problems in short and clear ways. All of us in public life need to keep ourselves grounded and focused on what the people want and need. That is what I have been doing. President Trump said he was no angel, and I don’t know of any politicians, including myself who are. But we can work effectively together to ensure the rights of everyday Americans.”

     

    I posted this to the Governor’s campaign contact form.

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  28. Freeven Member
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    Rodin:

    The title to this post comes from a comment President Trump made at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday. The context, from this Fox News report is President Trump comparing his support in the polls to that of three other rivals: DeSantis, Pence and Cheney —

    “There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%,” Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

    “Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought,” Trump continued. “Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4.”

    As also mentioned in the Fox report, DeSantis has indicated that he will not be challenging President Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

    So why the gratuitous swipe?

    DeSantis endorsed Joe O’Dea for Senate (out of Colorado) and did some robo-calls for him. O’Dea is an outspoken Trump critic. Trump is… Trump.

    The “Ron DeSanctimonious” jab is a reference to a (cringe-worthy, in my opinion) recent DeSantis ad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8jz7Cwjo3c

    Wow! Did the DeSantis campaign make that ad or did an “ally”?

    From the end of the ad:

    “Paid by Ron DeSantis, Republican, for Governor”

    Yes, it looks like he did it. Well, I guess he earned Trump’s sobriquet. Somebody goofed on this. Yes, being a “fighter” is a good thing. Suggesting that God made you to be the fighter comes off as, well, “sanctimonious”. I am not sure how DeSantis triangulates out of this, but I think he should.

    Assuming that was the reference, you really think it’s OK for Trump to call another Republican out on this when this there isn’t even a race between the two?

    No, I don’t think that.

    You seem to have read more into my comment than I said or intended. I wasn’t excusing Trump’s remark, but simply pointing out that this is what Trump does

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  29. Rodin Member
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    And query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad?

    I agree, and it’s because the “God” mentions detract from the fact that the substance of the ad is correct. But I ask again:

    Query whether the left has made us so uncomfortable with any mention of God that it is driving reactions to the ad?

     

    Not for me. 

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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Did DeSantis really say, when asked if he was going to run, “No” or did he just give an evasive deflection of saying that he was trying to defeat Crist? Did he answer honestly and say that he’s keeping his options open? Because that’s what it sounds like he’s doing. “The only worn out old donkey I’m looking to put out to pasture is Charlie Crist.” I think the non-answer answer indicates Yes.

    To say that Fox or DeSantis “indicated” he won’t run is like taking the measure of a spinning wind vane in a storm. But even Fox clearly says, “DeSantis refused to say during a debate last month whether he will run in 2024 fueling speculation that he is considering throwing his hat in the ring.”

    I believe that DeSantis knows that he wants to run, and intends to run, and knows he can run with the support he’s already gotten, but doesn’t know if he will run.

    And Trump probably knows more than most anyone else if DeSantis intends to run, he’s got experience and personal connections. And DeSantis has gotten, what, a 100 million dollars left over from his run for governor to campaign for POTUS while in office in Florida?

    And Trump’s “Desanctimonious” is in response to DeSantis’ overtly prophet-of-God self-depiction in his recent ad for governor. The gloves are certainly starting to come off. DeSantis is being wooed by big money to run. You all knew this was coming.

    Oh, DeSantis would run. He only said (reportedly) that he would not challenge Trump. In other words, if Trump wasn’t running DeSantis would. 

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