Quote of the Day: Election Deniers

 

Let’s talk about election deniers. Here’s 150 examples of Democrats denying election results. Look at this–this is from Joe Biden’s Press Secretary–‘remember, Brian Kemp stole the gubernatorial election from Georgians and Stacey Abrams.’ A Democrat was saying that-is that an election denier? Oh look at this–‘just heard Republican Ryan Costello said it would be difficult for Stacey Abrams to win because she lost her state bid, but she’s still claiming she never lost.’ Hillary Clinton: ‘Trump is an illegitimate President,’–is she an election denier? This one says, ‘was the 2016 election legitimate? It is definitely a question worth asking.’ That was the Los Angeles Times.

So it’s okay for Democrats to question elections but it’s not okay for Republicans? It’s a crock of BS, everyone knows it; we have our freedom of speech and we’re not going to relinquish it to a bunch of fake news propagandists. If you want a copy of these, I’m sure Anthony will help you get a copy and help you learn how to be a journalist but look it up. It has been happening for a long time. — Kari Lake

Since we may very well be burdened with the leadership of Kevin McCarthy in the House and Mitch McConnell in the Senate after the elections, I hope with all my heart that they will take leadership lessons from Kari Lake, who will likely be the next governor of Arizona.

I love this woman.

Not only is she fearless when the media throws a punch, but she counterpunches with vigor and glee. She is telling everyone that she can’t be stopped, that she won’t be stopped, and anyone who wants to try to get in her way had better have their ammunition ready!

She doesn’t worry about acting like a lady, or being polite, or even using acceptable language. She knows that the war (and it is a war) she is fighting against lawlessness at the border, progressive politics, and her battle for traditional values will not stop her. Other governors and legislators all over the country should be taking notes.

We need more Kari Lakes!

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Love it. She is the very model of who I want to vote for. 

     

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  2. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Love it. She is the very model of who I want to vote for.

     

    I really relate to her, Bryan, because sometimes she talks in fragments, just to get it all out! (I’ve been known to do the same.) I didn’t change a word, but was generous with adding and changing punctuation; whoever wrote the original quotation didn’t help her out with clearer punctuation, but I was glad to oblige!

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  3. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Just imagine Mitch using the term “B.S.”–Not!

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Just imagine Mitch using the term “B.S.”–Not!

    She talks like people. 

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Susan Quinn: Since we may very well be burdened with the leadership of Kevin McCarthy in the House and Mitch McConnell in the Senate after the elections, I hope with all my heart that they will take leadership lessons from Kari Lake, who will likely be the next governor of Arizona.

    Heh. Prepare to be disappointed. McConnell believes himself to be the True Ruler of the World. He wouldn’t take advice from a lowly governor.

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  6. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn: Since we may very well be burdened with the leadership of Kevin McCarthy in the House and Mitch McConnell in the Senate after the elections, I hope with all my heart that they will take leadership lessons from Kari Lake, who will likely be the next governor of Arizona.

    Heh. Prepare to be disappointed. McConnell believes himself to be the True Ruler of the World. He wouldn’t take advice from a lowly governor.

    Booooooooooooooooo! Followed by a raspberry! [pffffttttttttt]

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  7. Rodin Member
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    Our best hope is that Republicans add to their governor numbers and start to act as a group to push federalism and work the big congressional donors that Kevin and Mitch are beholden to to roll back central government and power. States that work well are the best form of government.

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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Our best hope is that Republicans add to their governor numbers and start to act as a group to push federalism and work the big congressional donors that Kevin and Mitch are beholden to to roll back central government and power. States that work well are the best form of government.

    And hopefully we add enough Republicans to the House and Senate who are not beholden to McConnell or McCarthy and vote in new leadership. (That’s why the establishment doesn’t want too big of a wave. A Red Tsunami threatens Mitch and Kevin’s coveted positions.)

    But yes, Kari Lake is awesome and I see her, along with DeSantis, hopefully presenting a model of governance for all the other states.

    And also how to treat the enemies in the media, of which there are legion.

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  9. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Rodin (View Comment):

    Our best hope is that Republicans add to their governor numbers and start to act as a group to push federalism and work the big congressional donors that Kevin and Mitch are beholden to to roll back central government and power. States that work well are the best form of government.

     I would love to see this! 

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  10. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Our best hope is that Republicans add to their governor numbers and start to act as a group to push federalism and work the big congressional donors that Kevin and Mitch are beholden to to roll back central government and power. States that work well are the best form of government.

    And hopefully we add enough Republicans to the House and Senate who are not beholden to McConnell or McCarthy and vote in new leadership. (That’s why the establishment doesn’t want too big of a wave. A Red Tsunami threatens Mitch and Kevin’s coveted positions.)

    But yes, Kari Lake is awesome and I see her, along with DeSantis, hopefully presenting a model of governance for all the other states.

    And also how to treat the enemies in the media, of which there are legion.

    Yes yes yes yes!!

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    Susan, it’s only bad when we do it.

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  12. Bishop Wash Member
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    Susan Quinn: Since we may very well be burdened with the leadership of Kevin McCarthy in the House and Mitch McConnell in the Senate after the elections, I hope with all my heart that they will take leadership lessons from Kari Lake, who will likely be the next governor of Arizona.

    Kari was on the Ruthless Podcast and had harsh words for Mitch and the way his PAC is spending money in Arizona. The host, Josh, used to be McConnell’s chief of staff and replied that she didn’t have all the details but it wasn’t the time to fight about it. It will be great if she governs in the style of DeSantis and pushes back against D.C.

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  13. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    The host, Josh, used to be McConnell’s chief of staff and replied that she didn’t have all the details but it wasn’t the time to fight about it.

    Will that time ever come?

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  14. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    The host, Josh, used to be McConnell’s chief of staff and replied that she didn’t have all the details but it wasn’t the time to fight about it.

    Maybe Josh should have enlightened the listeners who “didn’t have all the details,” or at least give a few of them. I’m so glad Kari is fighting the good fight!

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    The host, Josh, used to be McConnell’s chief of staff and replied that she didn’t have all the details but it wasn’t the time to fight about it.

    Will that time ever come?

    Silly man! Of course not! We peons don’t need that information. See my comment #14.

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  16. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Speaking of “Election Deniers,” . . .

    I believe there are “election deniers.” States that can’t count all their ballots in one evening are denying their citizens secure elections.

     

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  17. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    The host, Josh, used to be McConnell’s chief of staff and replied that she didn’t have all the details but it wasn’t the time to fight about it.

    Will that time ever come?

    Doubt it. I understand that he has loyalties to his former boss, so it would be nice if he could explain things to the listeners. Because from the outside, it looks as though McConnell does what’s best for McConnell and not necessarily Republicans. Don’t forget Mississippi 2014.

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  18. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):
    I believe there are “election deniers.” States that can’t count all their ballots in one evening are denying their citizens secure elections.

    Exactly! If they’re not counting ballots, they are trying to find a way to bend the rules. Not acceptable!

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  19. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Don’t forget Mississippi 2014.

    I’m not sure I remember? Quick reminder?

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  20. Bishop Wash Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Don’t forget Mississippi 2014.

    I’m not sure I remember? Quick reminder?

    Found a few articles from here at Ricochet, Shennanigans in Mississippi Race and Six Years Ago. The GOP establishment worked hard to defeat a Tea Party challenger in the Republican primary for senator. Maybe it was more Hayley Barbour but Mitch seemed to have a hand in it.

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  21. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    What is the argument behind the “election denier” charge?  Is there a way in which it makes sense, from the Leftist point of view?

    I think that it does.  I hypothesize that this charge supports the claim that Trump is a “threat to Democracy.”  We’ve been hearing this argument for many years now.  Trump — and Trumpism — is a “threat to Democracy.”

    Some people are inclined to believe this, for some reason.  My pal Gary Robbins is one of them, I think.  Once you think that Trump is a “threat to Democracy,” then it becomes necessary to defeat him and his movement, at almost any cost.

    On the other hand, if you don’t think that, say, Stacey Abrams or Hilary Clinton or Al Gore was a “threat to Democracy,” then you don’t perceive anything nefarious when they question election results.

    Many people seem, to me, to think in “memes” or slogans.  Well, if it can be called thinking.  I see this on both sides now.  Some examples:

    • Threat to Democracy
    • Socialist
    • Fascist
    • Racist
    • Anti-Semite
    • Liberty
    • Sexist
    • Took away our Rights
    • Nazi

    I think that reaching a position on many issues is quite complicated.  People aren’t typically very good at thinking things through, and on matters of politics and morality, they often don’t have the time or interest to do so.  So they end up on a side, and their side has its buzz-words. 

    The most effective buzz-words or memes, I think, make the other side anathema.  Once you can convince someone that the other party, or another particular candidate, is in one of the anathema boxes, then there’s no need to listen to anything that they have to say.  In fact, it would be a bad thing to listen, because you might be taken in.

    Demagoguery is nothing new.  I’m pretty sure that there were demagogues in ancient Athens, and I think that the Gracchus brothers were demagogues in Rome, around 100 BC.

    There’s probably no getting away from this problem, with a representative government.

    It does make me question the wisdom of representative government, but I don’t have a better replacement system.  Well, not until the Lord returns.  

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  22. colleenb Member
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):
    Don’t forget Mississippi 2014.

    I’m not sure I remember? Quick reminder?

    Found a few articles from here at Ricochet, Shennanigans in Mississippi Race and Six Years Ago. The GOP establishment worked hard to defeat a Tea Party challenger in the Republican primary for senator. Maybe it was more Hayley Barbour but Mitch seemed to have a hand in it.

    I still grind my teeth over that one. All Republican leaders should be grooming (in the original way – not as currently used by the LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ crowd) young candidates and leaders to take their place. Do we really want to be the party of Diane Feinstein, etc. This guy would have been great senator but we had to have the old guy. That’s one of the reasons, at this point, that I am Team DeSantis rather than Team Trump. Even stuffy old Britain has younger leaders than we do with our sclerotic gerontocracy. (I may not be using those words right but it does make my blood boil that some of these people, apparently, want to die in office. Get a life!)

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  23. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    What is the argument behind the “election denier” charge?  Is there a way in which it makes sense, from the Leftist point of view?

    It is a smear intended to group people with Holocaust Deniers.  The same with the use of “The Big Lie”.   Leftists are obsessed with their Nazi references.   All those references make me cringe.  

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  24. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    The creation and use of the term “election denier” is one sure sign of how desperate the Left has become.  Unfortunately, its continued use by the media with very little challenge to it is an example of how useless the GOP is at this type of issue.  I saw Gov Sununu going up against Chuck Todd and when Chuck Todd asks him why Gov Sununu is supporting election deniers he responds that Chuck is living in a bubble.

    Gov. Chris Sununu clashes with NBC’s Chuck Todd on ‘Meet The Press’ (yahoo.com)

    The problem is that he doesn’t immediately push back on the label that the MSM is trying desperately to promote.

    Then there is Margret Brennan on Face the Nation trying to equate ads run by the GOP against Nancy Pelosi, and a tweet by Rep Emmer showing him firing a select fire firearm that said he was exercising his 2nd Amendment rights and then had #FirePelosi at the bottom.  Her vapors were disgusting in their insincerity, or I guess perhaps she was sincere that she wants the Dems to win and will do anything to make that happen.  Rep Emmer did a decent job of responding but can be accused of engaging in whataboutism by talking about how the media didn’t call Dems on the carpet when Rep Scalise was shot by a Bernie supporter in a specifically political attack.

    And that is the problem.  Very few of the current crop of GOP leaders have any idea what it means to fight against not just the Democrats, but the media itself.  The media is an embarrassment to themselves, but the clown makeup is so thick that they cannot do anything else.  They have sold their integrity as journalists and once gone, you cannot get it back…ever.  A journalist’s only real value is for them to report the facts regardless of where they come from or go to.  Almost none of them do that anymore. 

    The value of a politician is that they represent their constituents.  When they campaign on what the voters want and then don’t deliver, they have sold their integrity and thus are useless.  I don’t mean like Trump wanted a wall and Paul Ryan made sure he didn’t get it.  In that case Trump fought hard and was betrayed by Ryan.  Ryan didn’t campaign on wanting a wall, but he did undermine Trump and got what he wanted from Trump’s election.  He wasn’t very duplicitous about it, but he wasn’t what the base and the voters wanted…which is why he didn’t run again because he was going to lose.

    Until we have journalists that haven’t sold out their integrity, and politicians that do what they campaign on we won’t have a country that is strong.  We are eating out seed corn after a fashion by using up our reservoir of power and wealth.

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  25. Lilly B Coolidge
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    Here’s to next Tuesday being as fun as watching Kari Lake take on the “fake news propagandists”!

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  26. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    I like how Ace calls her opponent “Abortion Mouse.”

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  27. Hartmann von Aue Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Rodin (View Comment):

    Our best hope is that Republicans add to their governor numbers and start to act as a group to push federalism and work the big congressional donors that Kevin and Mitch are beholden to to roll back central government and power. States that work well are the best form of government.

    And hopefully we add enough Republicans to the House and Senate who are not beholden to McConnell or McCarthy and vote in new leadership. (That’s why the establishment doesn’t want too big of a wave. A Red Tsunami threatens Mitch and Kevin’s coveted positions.)

    But yes, Kari Lake is awesome and I see her, along with DeSantis, hopefully presenting a model of governance for all the other states.

    And also how to treat the enemies in the media, of which there are legion.

    Yup. She’s brilliant with the press. 

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  28. Columbo Inactive
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    God bless Kari Lake!

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  29. Jim George Member
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    It does make me question the wisdom of representative government, but I don’t have a better replacement system. 

    “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” Sir Winston

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Many people seem, to me, to think in “memes” or slogans.  Well, if it can be called thinking.  I see this on both sides now.  Some examples:

    • Threat to Democracy
    • Socialist
    • Fascist
    • Racist
    • Anti-Semite
    • Liberty
    • Sexist
    • Took away our Rights
    • Nazi

    With respect, I do not consider Socialist, Fascist, Anti-Semite, Liberty or Nazi to be “memes”, at least as I understand the meaning of that word these days. In my view, these words have clearly established, reality-based, meanings and are anything but humorous, especially a couple of them like Nazi and Anti-Semite. I do take your main point, however, and agree that it is very harmful for so many to just adopt some of these slogans, like the one under consideration, “election denier”, whatever in the hell that means, like, as you point out, your pal @garyrobbins. He, and his fellow liberals, have every right to use whatever slogans they wish to adopt as their own, even if said slogans, very definitely like “election deniers”, have no sensible basis whatsoever. A mere cursory examination of the two words themselves will reveal how ridiculous the phrase has become in its “new” meaning. 

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    Demagoguery is nothing new.  I’m pretty sure that there were demagogues in ancient Athens, and I think that the Gracchus brothers were demagogues in Rome, around 100 BC.

    A wise observation, to which I will add: the current corrupt, sleazy, slimy, despicable, reprehensible, dishonest, bullying, far-far-left (on the increasingly rare occasions when he actually thinks about anything) has been all of those things for many, many decades, as he very publicly demonstrated in the horrific confirmation hearings of Judge Bork and Justice Thomas. While I don’t feel I need to keep repeating the mantra that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and their own choice of who they will vote for, how anyone, including your pal @garyrobbins, could have voted for this piece of human refuse, knowing what anyone with a functioning mind must have known about him, is quite simply beyond me. 

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    On the other hand, if you don’t think that, say, Stacey Abrams or Hilary Clinton or Al Gore was a “threat to Democracy,” then you don’t perceive anything nefarious when they question election results.

    Or, as @susanquinn points out in the quote from “election denier” Kari Lake, the other 147 Democrats who have made similar claims over the years; this cartoon sums it up nicely:

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  30. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I can make this simple. An election denier is anyone who takes any kind of issue with an election. Some people prefer to limit the definition to anyone who thinks that the person who won the election is an illegitimate winner. Take your pick.

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