Biden Over Bork: The Big Decision 35 Years Ago

 

There was a confrontation in 1987 between Joe Biden and Robert Bork. Bork gave honest and straightforward answers to questions during his confirmation hearings. Whether a right to privacy existed or was intended in the Constitution was a big issue. Biden said there was and Bork said there was not. The right to privacy was a big part of the Roe v. Wade decision that brought the issue of abortion under federal purview. Robert Bork was also an advocate for interpreting the Constitution using only the original intent of the founders. The only way I can think of some of the votes when I look again at who cast them is that it puzzles me.

I think this failure to confirm Robert Bork in some ways opened the floodgates and has given us the culture and government we are living with today. We didn’t get Bork on the Supreme Court and we got Biden as President. And now we have had a Supreme Court rejection of Roe v. Wade.

Robert Bork later wrote Slouching Towards Gomorrah, in which he describes the cultural effects of the sixties revived in the eighties leading to a revival of the sixties cultural mentality in Bill and Hillary Clinton. If you have access to this book, there is an Introduction — in my version, it runs 13 pages — that gives a very good description of the cultural forces operating to divide us so completely in our politics today. He calls the Left’s posture Modern Liberalism and uses Radical Egalitarianism and Radical Individualism to describe what has displaced Equality and Liberty in our lexicon when discussing political issues.

I have lived through and experienced all of what he describes in the book.

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  1. Bishop Wash Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

     

     

    Veering off topic but after clicking on that, the trending sidebar gave me this, “Understanding this year’s election results, and when to expect them”. Not the night of the vote or the next morning at the latest? I suppose the answer is when Democrats manufacture enough to win. Look at them prepping the battlefield and setting expectations for the fraud.

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  2. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Anyone voting for Biden opted for this.

    The sun rises in the east, water is wet and rocks are hard. And Bryan exorcises anyone who didn’t vote for Trump.

    Biden’s treatment of Bork and Thomas was long before Trump enter the scene – anyone who lived through it knew he was a demagogue who should never become president

    Biden on Bork was terrible behavior.

    Trump after the 2020 election and then January 6th was far, far worse.

    I agree, now do the FBI, the Clintons and corporate media after 2016

     

     

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  3. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Steven Galanis (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    So here’s a question: how does ‘right to privacy’ figure into our elections. or does it not figure in at all.

    The left seems to think the individual who wants to vote needs privacy that includes lack of voter ID being A-okay. When Californians vote at the polling place, no one checks on signatures. No polling place official asks for ID such as state-issued ID for those who don’t drive, or state driver’s licenses.

    This is all new since 2012.

    The Real ID program requires a great deal of cooperation from drivers and non-drivers alike everywhere in the United States. In Maryland, birth certificates and naturalization certificates are required of all drivers. In 2019 when I had to renew my license, I had to have my B/C on me. A short time later, I toted my 90+ Aunt to the DMV so that she could renew her license. The day before our visit, she reassured me that she had her naturalization certificate in her purse. When we got to the counter and she was asked to produce it, she looked dumbfounded. I knew right away she didn’t have it on her, and that I had wasted a day .

    The DMV which registers voters has the citizenship proof needed for the state board of elections (SBE) to weed out registrants who are not U.S. citizens . Additionally, the data exchange capabilities states have with each other and the feds would seem to make the task of qualifying voters relatively simple. Not only does Maryland’s SBE choose not to do so, it is pleased to hand out provisional ballots to as many people as show up on election day to register to vote. Attestation of citizenship and acceptance of the risks and penalties associated with a false assertion on a voter registration is proof of citizenship. Lawyers have argued so and judges determined so.

    How reassuring can a voter id requirement be when American citizens now plainly see that governing authorities have conscientiously worked to thwart their rights?

    Of course I agree with all who insist on a voter id requirement although nothing less than a major rollback of the changes in the voting process in recent years must also take place.

     

    Thank you for all the information. It is greatly disappointing that Maryland officials can “choose” to not examine DMV driver license applications in terms of the citizenship status of those who apply.

    I have come to expect that behavior from Calif officials, but thought other places might be less corrupt.

     

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  4. Bishop Wash Member
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    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Anyone voting for Biden opted for this.

    The sun rises in the east, water is wet and rocks are hard. And Bryan exorcises anyone who didn’t vote for Trump.

    Biden’s treatment of Bork and Thomas was long before Trump enter the scene – anyone who lived through it knew he was a demagogue who should never become president

    Biden on Bork was terrible behavior.

    Trump after the 2020 election and then January 6th was far, far worse.

    I agree, now do the FBI, the Clintons and corporate media after 2016

    Gary’s an amazing clairvoyant. Because of what Trump did on January 6, 2021, I must vote against him now on November 3, 2020.

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  5. Gary Robbins Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    There are a bunch of NeverTrumpers out there, at least enough to swing the last election. After January 6th, there are even more “NeverAgainTrumpers” who voted for Trump but never will do so again, beginning with Liz Cheney who voted for Trump twice, but now is unalterably opposed to him.

    But your Liz Cheney, running on a NeverTrumper platform, lost in her primary. And she lost bigly. She lost far worse than any incumbent member of congress ever.

    It’s delusional to even try to spin this.

    All she needs to do is to take 10% of the Republican vote to sink Trump.  A worthy goal.

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  6. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You can get Trump policies without the Trump baggage with DeSantis and a number of other Republicans.

    Why do you always push the losing strategy?

    DeSantis is a good guy, but he barely squeaked out the gubernatorial election against a wildly corrupt cheating male prostitute frequenting meth addict who was later indicted on 21 felony counts.

    And running for president, DeSantis would only receive a fraction of the support of the mass of Trump fans.

    And he would be working against the anger of the OnlyTrumpers. And if those angry OnlyTrumpers followed your strategy, they would vote for DeSantis’ democrat opponent.

    IF Trump Endorsed DeSantis, my guess is, many Never Trumpers would bail totally on DeSantis.

    I wouldn’t.  I would respect Trump for that.

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  7. namlliT noD Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    There are a bunch of NeverTrumpers out there, at least enough to swing the last election. After January 6th, there are even more “NeverAgainTrumpers” who voted for Trump but never will do so again, beginning with Liz Cheney who voted for Trump twice, but now is unalterably opposed to him.

    But your Liz Cheney, running on a NeverTrumper platform, lost in her primary. And she lost bigly. She lost far worse than any incumbent member of congress ever.

    It’s delusional to even try to spin this.

    All she needs to do is to take 10% of the Republican vote to sink Trump. A worthy goal.

    Huh?  That doesn’t even make sense.   How on earth could that happen?

    And right now the opposite is happening.  Liz Cheney has brought in enormous donations for Kari Lake’s campaign:

     

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You can get Trump policies without the Trump baggage with DeSantis and a number of other Republicans.

    Why do you always push the losing strategy?

    DeSantis is a good guy, but he barely squeaked out the gubernatorial election against a wildly corrupt cheating male prostitute frequenting meth addict who was later indicted on 21 felony counts.

    And running for president, DeSantis would only receive a fraction of the support of the mass of Trump fans.

    And he would be working against the anger of the OnlyTrumpers. And if those angry OnlyTrumpers followed your strategy, they would vote for DeSantis’ democrat opponent.

    IF Trump Endorsed DeSantis, my guess is, many Never Trumpers would bail totally on DeSantis.

    Not even a question.  Their politics, principles, and loyalties are non-existent.

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  10. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    GlennAmurgis (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Anyone voting for Biden opted for this.

    The sun rises in the east, water is wet and rocks are hard. And Bryan exorcises anyone who didn’t vote for Trump.

    Biden’s treatment of Bork and Thomas was long before Trump enter the scene – anyone who lived through it knew he was a demagogue who should never become president

    Biden on Bork was terrible behavior.

    Trump after the 2020 election and then January 6th was far, far worse.

    I agree, now do the FBI, the Clintons and corporate media after 2016

    Gary’s an amazing clairvoyant. Because of what Trump did on January 6, 2021, I must vote against him now on November 3, 2020.

    I believe the word he chooses is prescient.

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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    You can get Trump policies without the Trump baggage with DeSantis and a number of other Republicans.

    Why do you always push the losing strategy?

    DeSantis is a good guy, but he barely squeaked out the gubernatorial election against a wildly corrupt cheating male prostitute frequenting meth addict who was later indicted on 21 felony counts.

    And running for president, DeSantis would only receive a fraction of the support of the mass of Trump fans.

    And he would be working against the anger of the OnlyTrumpers. And if those angry OnlyTrumpers followed your strategy, they would vote for DeSantis’ democrat opponent.

    IF Trump Endorsed DeSantis, my guess is, many Never Trumpers would bail totally on DeSantis.

    Not even a question. Their politics, principles, and loyalties are non-existent.

    Hummmmmm.  Then why have I contributed to “Ready for Ron” which seeks to draft him to run for President?

    Please, Flicker, check out their site, https://www.readyforron.com/, DeSantis’s ad “Top Gov”:

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