Election Integrity Is All That Matters. And Democrats Know It.

 

Ron DeSantis was born in Jacksonville, FL, and was raised in Dunedin (near Tampa).  His mother was a nurse, and his father installed Nielsen TV boxes.  He went to Yale, where he was captain of their varsity baseball team, leading the team in batting average as a senior.  He worked his way through school, taking jobs as an electrician’s assistant, youth baseball coach, and others. He graduated from Yale with a degree in history, magna cum laude.  He then got his law degree at Harvard, cum laude.  After law school, he volunteered for the Navy, where he won the Bronze Star, among many other accolades.  He was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives at the age of 34, and then decided to run for governor in Florida in 2018.  His opponent in the gubernatorial election was Democrat Andrew Gillum.

Andrew Gillum was born in Miami and raised in Gainesville, FL.  His father worked construction and his mother drove a school bus.  He went to the historically black Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University (FAMU) in Tallahassee, earning a degree in political science.  His grades were not released.  While still attending college, he was elected to the Tallahassee City Commission at the age of 23.  He served on the City Commission for 10 years until winning the mayoral election in Tallahassee in 2014.  His term as mayor was marred by several corruption scandals involving misuse of funds, conflicts of interest, bribery, etc.  After several years of scandals, he decided to run for governor of Florida in 2018.

When Mr. DeSantis won the election, Mr. Gillum conceded the race that night.  It might not surprise you to learn that a recount was started soon thereafter, and Mr. Gillum withdrew his concession:  “I am replacing my words of concession with an uncompromised and unapologetic call that we count every single vote.”  Right.  Remarkably enough, somehow they could not “find” enough “votes” to “count” in Mr. Gillum’s favor, and Mr. DeSantis ended up winning anyway, by 0.4%.

This is how we ended up with Ron DeSantis as governor of Florida.  Mr. superstar athlete, hardworking brilliant student, Harvard-Yale educated lawyer, Bronze Star winning military veteran – that guy beats Mr. Corrupt Empty Suit.  And he beats him by 0.4%.

Mr. Gillum’s problems with the law have continued.  In March 2020, he was found, unconscious and naked, on the floor of a hotel room in Miami Beach with an overdosed unconscious male sex worker and bags of crystal meth and other drugs.  Presumably his wife was unamused, but no arrests were made.  And then in June 2022, Mr. Gillum was indicted on 21 felony counts, including wire fraud, conspiracy, and making false statements.  Mr. Gillum has declared his innocence, and calls his various corruption investigations “political in nature.”

Remember, Mr. Gillum very nearly beat the most qualified candidate in history for governor just a few years ago.  And he was an unimpressive student at an unimpressive school who has never had a job outside of government, and has been under investigation for corruption for most of his career.  He’s been discussed as the future of the Democratic Party, and has been considered as a possible Vice Presidential candidate.

What if he is the future of the Democratic Party?  Think of who the young stars are on their side.  Where do they find these people?

So Ron DeSantis may run for President.  I hope he does.  I think he would do a good job.

But can he win?  Can any Republican win, against any Democrat?  What if the Democrats manage to find a candidate more qualified than Mr. Corrupt Empty Suit?  Someone that voters might actually choose to vote for?

If our elections are as compromised as they appear to be, it may not matter who the Republicans run.  It already doesn’t matter who the Democrats run.  Obviously.

Immigration matters.  So does the war in Ukraine, and climate laws, and abortion, and lots of other stuff.  But really, nothing really matters other than figuring out how to hold honest elections in this country.  Which is why the Democrat power structure (news media, social media, FBI, Justice Dept, etc.) won’t even let us talk about it.  Any mention of election irregularities is “fact-checked” as “mis-information.”  They won’t let us talk about election integrity because they know how important it is.

So polite Republicans politely look away.  Like they’re supposed to.  After all, they’re nice.  Not like those other Republicans, you see.

I don’t know how our elections can be fixed.  They are broken in many, many ways.

But we’ve got to fix them.  That’s all that matters.

Some Republicans sort of understand that.  Democrats most certainly understand that, and are using their resources accordingly.

Election integrity is the only way Republicans have any chance at all.  Conversely, continued lack of election integrity is the only way that Democrats have any chance at all.  And they know it.

Republicans should be devoting similar resources toward regaining election integrity as Democrats are devoting to destroying it.

It’s all that matters.

Just ask Ron DeSantis, the star athlete / decorated military veteran / brilliant scholar / Harvard-Yale lawyer, who darn near lost an election to Mr. Corrupt Empty Suit.  (In this particular case, I refer to Mr. Gillum, not Mr. Biden.)

Heck, ask Mr. Corrupt Empty Suit himself.  Either one of them.  They understand, too.

Election integrity is all that matters.

We can’t fix any of our other problems until we fix that.

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  1. DonG (CAGW is a Scam) Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret.   Same with a fingerprint.    If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway.   Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

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  2. Gary Robbins Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Election integrity is all that matters.

    Better plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Destroy all voting machines that use any software at all; volunteers at each precinct count ballots by hand, watched by other volunteers, media, webcams, Republican observers, and Democrat observers.

    Good plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Take the federal government’s advice and destroy all voting machines that have internal modems.

    See “G. K. Chesterton’s Take on Electronic Voting Machines,” an introduction to the need for better security in election technology (available here in a Microsoft Word version).

    How about paper ballots, hand counted.

    Perhaps the next time you go to the bank and request $1,000 in 20’s, you will ask them to hand count the bills.  The machine that counts the bills reads them and counts them. Nothing more, nothing less.

    in Maricopa County, after the 2020 election, the County Party Chairs of the Republicans, Democrats, and Liberarians, randomly selected 4 precincts.  5 races were hand-counted in each of the 4 precincts.  So 20 races.  The error rate?  0.0000000000000%.  

    You can move freight by hand or by horse.  You can also use machines like trucks and rail.  I have visions of my MAGA friends in horse drawn carts transporting food, while I drive by.  Oh well.

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  3. Saint Augustine Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Election integrity is all that matters.

    Better plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Destroy all voting machines that use any software at all; volunteers at each precinct count ballots by hand, watched by other volunteers, media, webcams, Republican observers, and Democrat observers.

    Good plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Take the federal government’s advice and destroy all voting machines that have internal modems.

    See “G. K. Chesterton’s Take on Electronic Voting Machines,” an introduction to the need for better security in election technology (available here in a Microsoft Word version).

    How about paper ballots, hand counted.

    Perhaps the next time you go to the bank and request $1,000 in 20’s, you will ask them to hand count the bills. The machine that counts the bills reads them and counts them. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Does the machine at the bank do addition, or does it say how many bills it has and what percentage of them to, say, the 7th decimal point are 20s?

    Does the machine at the bank have an internal modem, and has the federal government recommended that it be discontinued?

    Were anti-Trumpers explaining how the machine at the bank could supposedly be hacked right up to November 2020?

    in Maricopa County, after the 2020 election, the County Party Chairs of the Republicans, Democrats, and Liberarians, randomly selected 4 precincts. 5 races were hand-counted in each of the 4 precincts. So 20 races. The error rate? 0.0000000000000%.

    Source?

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret. Same with a fingerprint. If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway. Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

    Great, and after spending a few YEARS verifying all the DNA, the election results can be announced.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Election integrity is all that matters.

    Better plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Destroy all voting machines that use any software at all; volunteers at each precinct count ballots by hand, watched by other volunteers, media, webcams, Republican observers, and Democrat observers.

    Good plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Take the federal government’s advice and destroy all voting machines that have internal modems.

    See “G. K. Chesterton’s Take on Electronic Voting Machines,” an introduction to the need for better security in election technology (available here in a Microsoft Word version).

    How about paper ballots, hand counted.

    Perhaps the next time you go to the bank and request $1,000 in 20’s, you will ask them to hand count the bills. The machine that counts the bills reads them and counts them. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Does the machine at the bank do addition, or does it say how many bills it has and what percentage of them to, say, the 7th decimal point are 20s?

    Does the machine at the bank have an internal modem, and has the federal government recommended that it be discontinued?

    Were anti-Trumpers explaining how the machine at the bank could supposedly be hacked right up to November 2020?

    in Maricopa County, after the 2020 election, the County Party Chairs of the Republicans, Democrats, and Liberarians, randomly selected 4 precincts. 5 races were hand-counted in each of the 4 precincts. So 20 races. The error rate? 0.0000000000000%.

    Source?

    And of course, THAT process does nothing to ensure that the ballots being counted were legally cast by eligible voters.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat:

    Election integrity is all that matters.

    Better plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Destroy all voting machines that use any software at all; volunteers at each precinct count ballots by hand, watched by other volunteers, media, webcams, Republican observers, and Democrat observers.

    Good plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Take the federal government’s advice and destroy all voting machines that have internal modems.

    See “G. K. Chesterton’s Take on Electronic Voting Machines,” an introduction to the need for better security in election technology (available here in a Microsoft Word version).

    How about paper ballots, hand counted.

    Perhaps the next time you go to the bank and request $1,000 in 20’s, you will ask them to hand count the bills. The machine that counts the bills reads them and counts them. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Does the machine at the bank do addition, or does it say how many bills it has and what percentage of them to, say, the 7th decimal point are 20s?

    Does the machine at the bank have an internal modem, and has the federal government recommended that it be discontinued?

    Were anti-Trumpers explaining how the machine at the bank could supposedly be hacked right up to November 2020?

    in Maricopa County, after the 2020 election, the County Party Chairs of the Republicans, Democrats, and Liberarians, randomly selected 4 precincts. 5 races were hand-counted in each of the 4 precincts. So 20 races. The error rate? 0.0000000000000%.

    Source?

    And of course, THAT process does nothing to ensure that the ballots being counted were legally cast by eligible voters.

    Yeah, it’s not like anyone who has some worries about the 2020 election thinks ALL we need to do is make sure the votes are legally cast or ALL we need to do is make sure the machines are ok or ALL we need to do is make sure no jerks are miscounting the paper ballots.

    ALL those things need to be cleaned up.

    #ThingsThatCanBeTrueAtTheSameTime.

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  7. namlliT noD Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Perhaps the next time you go to the bank and request $1,000 in 20’s, you will ask them to hand count the bills. The machine that counts the bills reads them and counts them. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Bill counting machines are not used for counting ballots.  And you know it.

    in Maricopa County, after the 2020 election, the County Party Chairs of the Republicans, Democrats, and Liberarians, randomly selected 4 precincts. 5 races were hand-counted in each of the 4 precincts. So 20 races. The error rate? 0.0000000000000%.

    4 precincts out of 700-something is not a serious test.   And it’s especially easy to set aside particular precincts for the “random selection”.

    Consider the story of Michelle Spears in DeKalb County, GA, a few months ago.  A hand recount moved her from a distant third place to winning:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/06/us/politics/michelle-long-spears-georgia.html

    You can move freight by hand or by horse. You can also use machines like trucks and rail. I have visions of my MAGA friends in horse drawn carts transporting food, while I drive by. Oh well.

    As an accomplished leading edge electrical and software engineer I can assure you that the opposite is true.

    The technology should be used for auditing and identifying errors and problems.  Instead it’s being used as a cover up to hide what’s actually going on.

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  8. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret. Same with a fingerprint. If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway. Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

    That is a ridiculous statement. 

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  9. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Dr. Bastiat: In March 2020, he was found, unconscious and naked, on the floor of a hotel room in Miami Beach with an overdosed unconscious male sex worker and bags of crystal meth and other drugs.

    Big whoop. Like none of us haven’t been there before. 

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: In March 2020, he was found, unconscious and naked, on the floor of a hotel room in Miami Beach with an overdosed unconscious male sex worker and bags of crystal meth and other drugs.

    Big whoop. Like none of us haven’t been there before.

    Uhhh….

    Hang on, I need to figure out that double-negative…

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  11. Henry Castaigne Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat: In March 2020, he was found, unconscious and naked, on the floor of a hotel room in Miami Beach with an overdosed unconscious male sex worker and bags of crystal meth and other drugs.

    Big whoop. Like none of us haven’t been there before.

    Uhhh….

    Hang on, I need to figure out that double-negative…

    Well my point is that we shouldn’t cast the first stone. I mean sometimes instead of an unconscious make sex worker it was a robot sometimes it was gin instead of crystal meth but we are all sinners.

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  12. Stad Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    Suck up to the moderators like I have . . .

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  13. Stad Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

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  14. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

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  15. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

    At least he did the best he could:  he had kids.

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  16. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

    First of all, thank you.  That’s very flattering.  Even if you meant it in jest. 

    But I can’t ‘like’ that comment.  That’s bonkers. If I was interested in the benefit of humanity, I would have remained celibate. 

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  17. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

    First of all, thank you. That’s very flattering. Even if you meant it in jest.

    But I can’t ‘like’ that comment. That’s bonkers. If I was interested in the benefit of humanity, I would have remained celibate.

    Don’t be ridiculous.  If not for daughters like yours, all women might end up being less than 5′ tall.

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  18. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

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    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

    First of all, thank you. That’s very flattering. Even if you meant it in jest.

    But I can’t ‘like’ that comment. That’s bonkers. If I was interested in the benefit of humanity, I would have remained celibate.

    Don’t be ridiculous. If not for daughters like yours, all women might end up being less than 5′ tall.

    Or even less than 6′ tall.  Heaven forbid! 

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    I’m pretty sure that I hold the Ricochet record for the most posts which:

    1. Get over 50 likes
    2. Are not promoted to the main feed

    I wonder why that is?

    So an hour after I make this comment, the post gets promoted to the main feed.

    Somebody is trying to make me look like a whiny brat.

    With some success, I might add…

    Maybe they were waiting for you to have 52 likes. :-)

    They are giving Bastiat a handicap because of his intellect and great writing skills . . .

    He is genetically superior to us mere mortals and he should be cloned for the benefit of humanity.

    First of all, thank you. That’s very flattering. Even if you meant it in jest.

    But I can’t ‘like’ that comment. That’s bonkers. If I was interested in the benefit of humanity, I would have remained celibate.

    Don’t be ridiculous. If not for daughters like yours, all women might end up being less than 5′ tall.

    Or even less than 6′ tall. Heaven forbid!

    It’s enough that they help keep the average up.

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  20. Red Herring Coolidge
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    David Carroll (View Comment):

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    Dr. Bastiat:

    Election integrity is all that matters.

    Better plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Destroy all voting machines that use any software at all; volunteers at each precinct count ballots by hand, watched by other volunteers, media, webcams, Republican observers, and Democrat observers.

    Good plan for Election Integrity Priority One: Take the federal government’s advice and destroy all voting machines that have internal modems.

    See “G. K. Chesterton’s Take on Electronic Voting Machines,” an introduction to the need for better security in election technology (available here in a Microsoft Word version).

    How about paper ballots, hand counted.

    Sadly, paper ballots can result in fraud, too. My grandfather told me from personal experience as a poll worker, poll workers could and did invalidate paper ballots with extraneous marks (like voting for both candidates) with a pencil lead hidden beneath a thumbnail or fingernail.

    Paper ballots can be forged and stuffed into ballot boxes, as well.

    After the 2000 election, some Florida Republicans tired to create the hanging chads. The only way they could do it was put several in the machine at once. Heard several interesting tidbits from an insider. Dems bussed idiots to the polls. One Dem idiot manager of a bus load was supposed to tell the passengers to vote for anyone but Bush.  She told them to vote for everyone but Bush. That is one way they got overvotes..

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  21. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Dems tried to stop absentee military votes in Seminole county. That was my voter registration office from 1980-2000. They supported me throughout my military career. I changed to my retired sc precinct just before the general election.

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  22. Red Herring Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret. Same with a fingerprint. If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway. Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

    Fraudsters would smear the print a little

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret. Same with a fingerprint. If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway. Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

    Fraudsters would smear the print a little

    Illegible prints are disqualified.

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  24. Chuck Coolidge
    Chuck
    @Chuckles

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Phil Turmel (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Scam) (View Comment):
    I want paper ballots and to eliminate anonymous voting. Let’s have people put a thumbprint on the paper and lick the corner. Being pseudo-anonymous is good enough.

    Yes to paper ballots. No to eliminate anonymous voting.

    I’ve seen unions (collectivists) intimidate people into voting their way when ballots weren’t secret. Evil. Once a “machine” has public ballots, that machine won’t need to manufacture fake ballots to get the fraudulent results it wants.

    Anonymity is also one of the barriers that has prevented any implementation of internet voting. Thank the Lord for that.

    You’ve harped on this before. Makes me think you are a progressive agent.

    Has to be secret for sure.

    We should stop absentee ballots except for military or away in school.

     

    Putting DNA on a ballot is very secret. Same with a fingerprint. If you like paper ballots, you are probably putting DNA and finger prints on the ballot anyway. Why not make it required to eliminate fraud?

    Fraudsters would smear the print a little

    Illegible prints are disqualified.

    That’s racist!

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  25. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    kedavis (View Comment):

     

    Keeping all the usual polling stations open for 2 weeks would be a pretty big strain on especially volunteers who do much of it now. If there is going to be 2 weeks of early voting, it would need to be far more limited to like the Secretary Of State offices etc. If they have 2 weeks to do it, there’s not much reason why it should have to be within walking distance of everyone’s home etc. If they have to only walk a short distance, they can plan to do it on Election Day. Or not at all.

    That’s a good point regarding another reform I’d like to see.

    For as long as I’ve watched national election returns, the rural areas are counted first and the urban votes (usually a lot more leftDemocratic) come in a lot later, leaving us with the suspicion that the big city vote counters are waiting to see how many votes they need to manufacture in order to win.  The unusual vote-counting stoppages in the last presidential election raised those suspicions to new heights.  I’m still not convinced by all the excuses we heard.

    We also have the issue of east-coast vote counts affecting west-coast voters where the polls are still open for a few hours.  Some voters may stay home because the national election is already won/lost, and then fail to vote in local elections within their own time-zone.  But this issue about rural-urban votes is a little different.

    What I’d like to see is all the Michigan townships, counties, and smaller towns withhold their vote totals until the big cities have their returns ready.  I’m not sure if that’s legal, but even if it is there would be the problem of paying the poll workers to stay awake until the wee hours of the morning to turn in their vote counts.  Local voters and taxpayers might not like that.  Local Democrat voters might be especially opposed.  (No, the local precincts shouldn’t trust some central clearinghouse to hold their results until all of them are in.) 

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