The Religious Right Was Right About Everything

 

The article speaks for itself. And to think this isn’t even rock bottom yet. The slippery slope goes all the way down to hell. The idea that less religion would mean more rationality and science has been blown to smithereens.

Religious people are so backward they believe a dude 2,000 years ago turned water into wine and that a guy was swallowed in the belly of a fish. What irrational, believing, credulous, gullible fools. I only believe in science. Anyway, men can get pregnant and have periods.

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  1. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Thing is, I really am cool with gay people pair-bonding by way of a civil ceremony. I was assured that was all they wanted. 

    Turns out they wanted to force people to bake them cakes and now make people pay people to have babies for them. 

    I can’t help but think there are a ton of gay people who have no time for this nonsense and lead lives much like anyone else except for the obvious. They aren’t trying to prove a point, they are trying to live a life. I believe these guys exist and that they are the majority. I believe the same thing of American Muslims.

    And it isn’t the fault of this majority that a lot of them keep their heads down when their brethren start destroying parts of America figuratively and literally. 

    But I will say that groups who have only recently acquired trust should probably consider policing their own because I was there for the times when I was unusual in my thinking that these people should be given a chance and there are probably people – a tiny minority – who wish to go back to those times. 

    I don’t want them to get their wish, and neither does most anyone else. 

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  2. Richard Easton Coolidge
    Richard Easton
    @RichardEaston

    Polygamy will follow in the near future. 

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  3. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for all the people at ricochet who are pro SSM to say maybe there was a point on the other side.

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  4. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    TBA (View Comment):

    Thing is, I really am cool with gay people pair-bonding by way of a civil ceremony. I was assured that was all they wanted.

    That was an obvious lie from the beginning. 

    But hey, bigots for saying that.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    TBA (View Comment):

    Thing is, I really am cool with gay people pair-bonding by way of a civil ceremony. I was assured that was all they wanted.

    Turns out they wanted to force people to bake them cakes and now make people pay people to have babies for them.

    I can’t help but think there are a ton of gay people who have no time for this nonsense and lead lives much like anyone else except for the obvious. They aren’t trying to prove a point, they are trying to live a life. I believe these guys exist and that they are the majority. I believe the same thing of American Muslims.

    And it isn’t the fault of this majority that a lot of them keep their heads down when their brethren start destroying parts of America figuratively and literally.

    But I will say that groups who have only recently acquired trust should probably consider policing their own because I was there for the times when I was unusual in my thinking that these people should be given a chance and there are probably people – a tiny minority – who wish to go back to those times.

    I don’t want them to get their wish, and neither does most anyone else.

    The larger problem is that while there may be a larger majority of El-Jibbity individuals who don’t support pushing things so far, they still support the overall agenda which then gets pushed, and I expect they probably vote for Democrats.  I can’t absolve them of guilt.

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  6. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men haver the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    That’s what YOU think.  Have you met the Dims, and their state legislators etc?

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  8. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    @RushBabe49

    There are two-X-chromosome individuals who are willing to sell their eggs to the highest bidder.  They will sell to anyone, regardless of sex.  There are other 2-X-chromosome individuals who will sell their wombs to the highest bidder, regardless of sex or number; they willingly undergo pregnancy and all its effects, give birth to a human who has none of their genetic material (other than what might cross the placenta in their womb), and then deliver that little human to whoever paid for their “womb service”.  Who are the worst sinners?  The sellers, or the buyers?

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  9. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men haver the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    That’s what YOU think. Have you met the Dims, and their state legislators etc?

    I’m just talking facts.  It’s not a right.  No one has a right to someone else’s egg any more that a house, or a car, or her kidney.

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men haver the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    That’s what YOU think. Have you met the Dims, and their state legislators etc?

    I’m just talking facts. It’s not a right. No one has a right to someone else’s egg any more that a house, or a car, or her kidney.

    I can’t wait for your reaction when John Roberts decides it’s a tax.  :-)

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  11. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Thing is, I really am cool with gay people pair-bonding by way of a civil ceremony. I was assured that was all they wanted.

    That was an obvious lie from the beginning.

    But hey, bigots for saying that.

    I think it was true for a lot of gays at the time. And may still be true for a lot now. 

    Even so, if one has been mistreated or much worse because of [identity] anything that forces other people to be less unkind has got to have an appeal even if it’s an abuse of power. 

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  12. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men haver the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    Government is supposed to be there to make people leave you alone, not to make people give you stuff. 

    Honestly, the idea isn’t that far-fetched when we consider all the things that government makes people/businesses do on behalf of others. 

    Would that it were farther-fetched. 

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men haver the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    That’s what YOU think. Have you met the Dims, and their state legislators etc?

    I’m just talking facts. It’s not a right. No one has a right to someone else’s egg any more that a house, or a car, or her kidney.

    I can’t wait for your reaction when John Roberts decides it’s a tax. :-)

    A tax would be an arm and a leg.

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  14. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    A strong “want” does not create a right.  

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  15. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    There are two-X-chromosome individuals who are willing to sell their eggs to the highest bidder. They will sell to anyone, regardless of sex. There are other 2-X-chromosome individuals who will sell their wombs to the highest bidder, regardless of sex or number; they willingly undergo pregnancy and all its effects, give birth to a human who has none of their genetic material (other than what might cross the placenta in their womb), and then deliver that little human to whoever paid for their “womb service”. Who are the worst sinners? The sellers, or the buyers?

    In our current culture the question would be who, sellers or buyers, would be the most celebrated for their “courage.” [Meanwhile hospital administrators are adding up the potential revenue.]

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):
    [Meanwhile hospital administrators are adding up the potential revenue.]

    Especially if they can get a law passed that insurance has to pay for it.

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  17. E. Kent Golding Member
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    TBA (View Comment):
    I can’t help but think there are a ton of gay people who have no time for this nonsense and lead lives much like anyone else except for the obvious. They aren’t trying to prove a point, they are trying to live a life. I believe these guys exist and that they are the majority. I believe the same thing of American Muslims.

    I have friends and relatives who are gay who just live their lives,  pretty quiet normal lives.    I have also worked with Muslims who were good responsible engineers and family men.   However,  regardless of sexual or other orientation,   I no longer think the non-crazy  are the majority.     I think God is letting people have it their own way and letting them experience the consequences.

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  18. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    I can’t help but think there are a ton of gay people who have no time for this nonsense and lead lives much like anyone else except for the obvious. They aren’t trying to prove a point, they are trying to live a life. I believe these guys exist and that they are the majority. I believe the same thing of American Muslims.

    I have friends and relatives who are gay who just live their lives, pretty quiet normal lives. I have also worked with Muslims who were good responsible engineers and family men. However, regardless of sexual or other orientation, I no longer think the non-crazy are the majority. I think God is letting people have it their own way and letting them experience the consequences.

    I think the gays and Muslims who aren’t crazy are too busy living their lives and working to bother with the government. Think of your regular decent hetero-white guy- he doesn’t bother with government too much because he can govern  himself. Lots of minorities are also this way but the ones that are into government are very destructive. 

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  19. Full Size Tabby Member
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    @FullSizeTabby

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    Well, many of us thought that no one could force another person to use his own artistic talents to create messages he abhors, but efforts to do that are many and ongoing. So yes, one person claiming a right to have or to use part of another person is already mainstream thought. 

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    Well, many of us thought that no one could force another person to use his own artistic talents to create messages he abhors, but efforts to do that are many and ongoing. So yes, one person claiming a right to have or to use part of another person is already mainstream thought.

    What!  If that’s true, then next you’ll be swabbing my nose to take stray cells to examine my DNA.  This is crazy talk.  — said Osama bin Laden

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  21. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    A strong “want” does not create a right.

    That may be true but saying that a strong “want” does not create a right makes you a ߴphobe.

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  22. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    E. Kent Golding (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):
    I can’t help but think there are a ton of gay people who have no time for this nonsense and lead lives much like anyone else except for the obvious. They aren’t trying to prove a point, they are trying to live a life. I believe these guys exist and that they are the majority. I believe the same thing of American Muslims.

    I have friends and relatives who are gay who just live their lives, pretty quiet normal lives. I have also worked with Muslims who were good responsible engineers and family men. However, regardless of sexual or other orientation, I no longer think the non-crazy are the majority. I think God is letting people have it their own way and letting them experience the consequences.

    I can’t speak to that, but as an alternative idea; the broad- and narrow-casting of ideas, any ideas, is a new thing in our culture, as is social media where people live a second life of noisy desperation in which popular opinions can shift almost overnight. 

    Younger people have probably learned to keep their opinions ‘flexible’. 

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  23. jeffversion1.0 Coolidge
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    @jvanhorn

    Wait, is this The Handmaid’s Tale future the women in the funny hats were warning us about when Trump was elected?

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  24. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for all the people at ricochet who are pro SSM to say maybe there was a point on the other side.

    ftr, I was pro-SSU. 

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    I’ve got a solution!  Make Same Sex Marriage require that one person have eggs in his or her body, and the other person have sperm in his or her body.

    And maybe even require fertility tests for Same Sex Marriage, just like we do now to insure the reproductive rights with heterosexuals.

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  26. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    @DaveSchmidt

    TBA (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    How do two men have the right to a woman’s egg, purchased or otherwise?

    One has the right, I suppose, to purchase an egg, but one does not have the right — human, civil, or natural — to anyone else’ egg.

    A strong “want” does not create a right.

    That may be true but saying that a strong “want” does not create a right makes you a ߴphobe.

    Getting called a ‘phobe and being one are two different things.

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  27. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
    DaveSchmidt
    @DaveSchmidt

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):
    [Meanwhile hospital administrators are adding up the potential revenue.]

    Especially if they can get a law passed that insurance has to pay for it.

    With over 2000 pages, I am pretty confident the the medical bean counters have figured out how Obama Care mandates coverage.  

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  28. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
    DaveSchmidt
    @DaveSchmidt

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):
    [Meanwhile hospital administrators are adding up the potential revenue.]

    Especially if they can get a law passed that insurance has to pay for it.

    With over 2000 pages, I am pretty confident the the medical bean counters have figured out how Obama Care mandates coverage.

    Thanks John McCain.

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  29. Patrick McClure Coolidge
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    @Patrickb63

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    There are two-X-chromosome individuals who are willing to sell their eggs to the highest bidder. They will sell to anyone, regardless of sex. There are other 2-X-chromosome individuals who will sell their wombs to the highest bidder, regardless of sex or number; they willingly undergo pregnancy and all its effects, give birth to a human who has none of their genetic material (other than what might cross the placenta in their womb), and then deliver that little human to whoever paid for their “womb service”. Who are the worst sinners? The sellers, or the buyers?

    We are all sinners.   But only G-d can judge who is worse.  Not meaning to be preachy. The OP is correct. Just don’t want to get into levels of sin.

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Patrick McClure (View Comment):

    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    There are two-X-chromosome individuals who are willing to sell their eggs to the highest bidder. They will sell to anyone, regardless of sex. There are other 2-X-chromosome individuals who will sell their wombs to the highest bidder, regardless of sex or number; they willingly undergo pregnancy and all its effects, give birth to a human who has none of their genetic material (other than what might cross the placenta in their womb), and then deliver that little human to whoever paid for their “womb service”. Who are the worst sinners? The sellers, or the buyers?

    We are all sinners. But only G-d can judge who is worse. Not meaning to be preachy. The OP is correct. Just don’t want to get into levels of sin.

    If Satan didn’t actually murder anyone, does that mean that a murderer is more evil than Satan him/herself?  Or is the message that… full rejection of God, however you would term it in Satan’s case… is actually worse than anything any human could do?  Which would seem to mean that being an atheist is worse than murder.  (Unless only someone like Satan could have the absolute rejection-of-God that a human atheist could never achieve?)

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