Boston Suburban High School Principal Commits Outrage

 

School officials at a Boston suburb public high school informed faculty that political items such as Black Lives Matter and gay pride flags are banned from classrooms. 

“We need to avoid placing items in the classroom that can cause disruption or distraction; we are an inclusive environment and want to maintain that inclusivity.”

Fairly innocuous statement [link], that everyone should agree upon, right?  Ah, wait just one second there Bubba. What is ‘political’? Clearly, the worldview that everyone should accept ‘my’ politics of gay pride flags and BLM affirmation is required by the current leadership of America and anyone who sanctimoniously pretends that only they have true and authentic beliefs and goodness.

Oh my, hoisted upon their own petards! The sanctimonious and hypocritical liberals will have their knickers in a bunch over this!  I do pray for your strength and health dear Principal Juliette Miller. You have touched the third rail in America that is verboten.

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  1. Charlotte Member
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    My high school math teacher, a very proud and outspoken Polish American (I believe his grandparents were born in Poland), had a red and white Solidarnosc flag hanging in his classroom. As a clueless and self-absorbed 15-year-old girl, I didn’t know or care much about it. This would have been in the late ’80s.

    What do the Ricochetti think about this? I am genuinely curious.

    Better than the reverse, say, a Communist flag.

    Well duh. But the intent would be the same.

    Solidarnosc was a de facto American ally, while Communists were enemies. It would seem to make sense for an American public school to distinguish between the two.

    (Not sure whether it matters, but it was a private school.)

    Yes, I get that Solidarity is better than the Commies. The question at issue is whether or not it is appropriate for teachers/schools to display (any) political propaganda in their classrooms, or is propaganda we like/agree with/are allied with okay but other propaganda is not.

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    Charlotte (View Comment):

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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    My high school math teacher, a very proud and outspoken Polish American (I believe his grandparents were born in Poland), had a red and white Solidarnosc flag hanging in his classroom. As a clueless and self-absorbed 15-year-old girl, I didn’t know or care much about it. This would have been in the late ’80s.

    What do the Ricochetti think about this? I am genuinely curious.

    Better than the reverse, say, a Communist flag.

    Well duh. But the intent would be the same.

    Solidarnosc was a de facto American ally, while Communists were enemies. It would seem to make sense for an American public school to distinguish between the two.

    (Not sure whether it matters, but it was a private school.)

    Yes, I get that Solidarity is better than the Commies. The question at issue is whether or not it is appropriate for teachers/schools to display (any) political propaganda in their classrooms, or is propaganda we like/agree with/are allied with okay but other propaganda is not.

    Solidarity was in the context of the 1980s.  It would have been unthinkable for a commie flag to besmirch a classroom for more than a single day back then, once somebody’s father found out.

    Things are different now, because things are indeed different.

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  3. Taras Coolidge
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB (View Comment):

    Charlotte (View Comment):

    My high school math teacher, a very proud and outspoken Polish American (I believe his grandparents were born in Poland), had a red and white Solidarnosc flag hanging in his classroom. As a clueless and self-absorbed 15-year-old girl, I didn’t know or care much about it. This would have been in the late ’80s.

    What do the Ricochetti think about this? I am genuinely curious.

    Better than the reverse, say, a Communist flag.

    Well duh. But the intent would be the same.

    Solidarnosc was a de facto American ally, while Communists were enemies. It would seem to make sense for an American public school to distinguish between the two.

    (Not sure whether it matters, but it was a private school.)

    Yes, I get that Solidarity is better than the Commies. The question at issue is whether or not it is appropriate for teachers/schools to display (any) political propaganda in their classrooms, or is propaganda we like/agree with/are allied with okay but other propaganda is not.

    Solidarity was in the context of the 1980s. It would have been unthinkable for a commie flag to besmirch a classroom for more than a single day back then, once somebody’s father found out.

    Things are different now, because things are indeed different.

    Should public schools be neutral between freedom and slavery?  Between teaching love of America and hatred of America?

    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    Aren’t they supposed to be teaching American values. and deprecating Soviet or Nazi or authoritarian values?

    This is why it would be appropriate, for example, to hang a Ukrainian flag today, but not a Russian or Chinese flag.  Ukraine is fighting to become more like America; Russia and China, to become more perfect fascist dictatorships.

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  4. BDB Coolidge
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    My high school math teacher, a very proud and outspoken Polish American (I believe his grandparents were born in Poland), had a red and white Solidarnosc flag hanging in his classroom. As a clueless and self-absorbed 15-year-old girl, I didn’t know or care much about it. This would have been in the late ’80s.

    What do the Ricochetti think about this? I am genuinely curious.

    Better than the reverse, say, a Communist flag.

    Well duh. But the intent would be the same.

    Solidarnosc was a de facto American ally, while Communists were enemies. It would seem to make sense for an American public school to distinguish between the two.

    (Not sure whether it matters, but it was a private school.)

    Yes, I get that Solidarity is better than the Commies. The question at issue is whether or not it is appropriate for teachers/schools to display (any) political propaganda in their classrooms, or is propaganda we like/agree with/are allied with okay but other propaganda is not.

    Solidarity was in the context of the 1980s. It would have been unthinkable for a commie flag to besmirch a classroom for more than a single day back then, once somebody’s father found out.

    Things are different now, because things are indeed different.

    Should public schools be neutral between freedom and slavery? Between teaching love of America and hatred of America?

    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    Aren’t they supposed to be teaching American values. and deprecating Soviet or Nazi or authoritarian values?

    This is why it would be appropriate, for example, to hang a Ukrainian flag today, but not a Russian or Chinese flag. Ukraine is fighting to become more like America; Russia and China, to become more perfect fascist dictatorships.

    I don’t think you realize how far gone things are.  Good luck pushing back against sodomy as an American value.

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  5. Front Seat Cat Member
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    What the heck? From far down in the linked article:

    Principal Miller added in her email to staff last week, following the faculty meeting, that the school’s directive is intended to create a welcoming environment for all students. She continued that the school district purchased LGBTQIA+ ally stickers for doorways of all classrooms that will be distributed once they are delivered.

    So much for her policy then, I guess.

    They keep adding letters before the plus – pathetic.

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  6. BDB Coolidge
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    Charlotte (View Comment):

    What the heck? From far down in the linked article:

    Principal Miller added in her email to staff last week, following the faculty meeting, that the school’s directive is intended to create a welcoming environment for all students. She continued that the school district purchased LGBTQIA+ ally stickers for doorways of all classrooms that will be distributed once they are delivered.

    So much for her policy then, I guess.

    They keep adding letters before the plus – pathetic.

    Remember, kids — the ‘plus’ stands for pedophilia.  

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  7. The Reticulator Member
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    Taras (View Comment):
    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation.  That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away. 

     

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    My high school math teacher, a very proud and outspoken Polish American (I believe his grandparents were born in Poland), had a red and white Solidarnosc flag hanging in his classroom. As a clueless and self-absorbed 15-year-old girl, I didn’t know or care much about it. This would have been in the late ’80s.

    What do the Ricochetti think about this? I am genuinely curious.

    Better than the reverse, say, a Communist flag.

    Well duh. But the intent would be the same.

    Solidarnosc was a de facto American ally, while Communists were enemies. It would seem to make sense for an American public school to distinguish between the two.

    (Not sure whether it matters, but it was a private school.)

    Yes, I get that Solidarity is better than the Commies. The question at issue is whether or not it is appropriate for teachers/schools to display (any) political propaganda in their classrooms, or is propaganda we like/agree with/are allied with okay but other propaganda is not.

    Solidarity was in the context of the 1980s. It would have been unthinkable for a commie flag to besmirch a classroom for more than a single day back then, once somebody’s father found out.

    Things are different now, because things are indeed different.

    Should public schools be neutral between freedom and slavery? Between teaching love of America and hatred of America?

    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    Aren’t they supposed to be teaching American values. and deprecating Soviet or Nazi or authoritarian values?

    This is why it would be appropriate, for example, to hang a Ukrainian flag today, but not a Russian or Chinese flag. Ukraine is fighting to become more like America; Russia and China, to become more perfect fascist dictatorships.

    I don’t think you realize how far gone things are. Good luck pushing back against sodomy as an American value.

    To paraphrase Tina Turner, what’s sodomy got to do with it?  Did I accidentally use a code word, or something?

    I guess, to certain “single issue” people, a dictator who persecutes homosexuals is, on balance, one of the good guys!

     

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  9. Taras Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Taras (View Comment):
    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation. That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away.

    Not sure we have the same definitions of “educate” and “indoctrinate”.

    The former involves teaching kids the truth, and helping them learn how to think for themselves.

    The latter involves teaching kids falsehoods, and preventing them from learning how to think for themselves.

    For ruling class Democrats, the important thing is indoctrination.  It’s not important for the masses to be educated: they’re all ultimately destined for the dole, anyway.  But as long as we maintain a façade of democracy, it’s important that the masses vote as they are told (by the ruling class).

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Taras (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):
    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation. That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away.

    Not sure we have the same definitions of “educate” and “indoctrinate”.

    The former involves teaching kids the truth, and helping them learn how to think for themselves.

    The latter involves teaching kids falsehoods, and preventing them from learning how to think for themselves.

    For ruling class Democrats, the important thing is indoctrination. It’s not important for the masses to be educated: they’re all ultimately destined for the dole, anyway. But as long as we maintain a façade of democracy, it’s important that the masses vote as they are told (by the ruling class).

    You’re right. We differ on definitions. Indoctrination isn’t teaching falsehoods, necessarily.  

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  11. BDB Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

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    Taras (View Comment):
    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation. That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away.

    Not sure we have the same definitions of “educate” and “indoctrinate”.

    The former involves teaching kids the truth, and helping them learn how to think for themselves.

    The latter involves teaching kids falsehoods, and preventing them from learning how to think for themselves.

    For ruling class Democrats, the important thing is indoctrination. It’s not important for the masses to be educated: they’re all ultimately destined for the dole, anyway. But as long as we maintain a façade of democracy, it’s important that the masses vote as they are told (by the ruling class).

    You’re right. We differ on definitions. Indoctrination isn’t teaching falsehoods, necessarily.

    Absolutely.  Indoctrination is how a society propagates itself.  I neither resent nor regret my military indoctrination, but I see that it was appropriate to the time — for me — not for all people across all time.  Indoctrination is value-added — or subtracted — based on how adaptive it is for an amalgam of concerns.  Enumerating those concerns can be illuminating.

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  12. kedavis Inactive
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation. That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away.

    Not sure we have the same definitions of “educate” and “indoctrinate”.

    The former involves teaching kids the truth, and helping them learn how to think for themselves.

    The latter involves teaching kids falsehoods, and preventing them from learning how to think for themselves.

    For ruling class Democrats, the important thing is indoctrination. It’s not important for the masses to be educated: they’re all ultimately destined for the dole, anyway. But as long as we maintain a façade of democracy, it’s important that the masses vote as they are told (by the ruling class).

    You’re right. We differ on definitions. Indoctrination isn’t teaching falsehoods, necessarily.

    Absolutely. Indoctrination is how a society propagates itself. I neither resent nor regret my military indoctrination, but I see that it was appropriate to the time — for me — not for all people across all time. Indoctrination is value-added — or subtracted — based on how adaptive it is for an amalgam of concerns. Enumerating those concerns can be illuminating.

    Careful, you’re starting to sound like Mark Camp.  :-)

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  13. BDB Coolidge
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    What is the purpose of public schools, anyway, and why are public funds lavished on them?

    I’d prefer that they educate rather than indoctrinate. Instillation of values should take place at home and in religious communities.

    Of course, with students spending so much of their lives at school it is not possible to have that kind of separation. That means schools will indoctrinate. Local control and local funding can greatly mitigate the problems, but it won’t make them go away.

    Not sure we have the same definitions of “educate” and “indoctrinate”.

    The former involves teaching kids the truth, and helping them learn how to think for themselves.

    The latter involves teaching kids falsehoods, and preventing them from learning how to think for themselves.

    For ruling class Democrats, the important thing is indoctrination. It’s not important for the masses to be educated: they’re all ultimately destined for the dole, anyway. But as long as we maintain a façade of democracy, it’s important that the masses vote as they are told (by the ruling class).

    You’re right. We differ on definitions. Indoctrination isn’t teaching falsehoods, necessarily.

    Absolutely. Indoctrination is how a society propagates itself. I neither resent nor regret my military indoctrination, but I see that it was appropriate to the time — for me — not for all people across all time. Indoctrination is value-added — or subtracted — based on how adaptive it is for an amalgam of concerns. Enumerating those concerns can be illuminating.

    Careful, you’re starting to sound like Mark Camp. :-)

    I’m just impressed that this isn’t a reference to a poorly-written mass-consumption sitcom.

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