Quote of the Day: Longevity

 

“If you’re starting a new job today and intend to match Queen Elizabeth’s work longevity you’ll have to keep working there through April 11, 2093.” – Keith Olbermann

Yes, I am quoting Keith Olbermann. On Ricochet. But sometimes even the worst man in the world has a valid point, one worth hearing. Even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then. This is one such time.

I am a historian as well as an engineer. History isn’t engineering. It is a lot messier. (That is saying a lot, by the way, but it is.) The stable influences are less visible than the unstable ones. For over seventy years Queen Elizabeth II was one of those rare stable influences.

She was also a connection with our past. She was the last head of state to have served in World War II, which ended nearly 80 years ago.  She wore the uniform of the Auxiliary Territorial Service where she served as a mechanic and driver. (Yes, she was a gearhead. Loved driving all her life.)  People now old enough to remember her today will alive at the start of the next century, and a direct link to World War II, over a century and a half in the past.

My father and father-in-law were both veterans of World War II. They both died in 2018, both in their 90s. More than that, my father-in-law was my direct link to the American Civil War. He was born during the Presidency of Warren Harding. He related stories of watching Civil War veterans pass by in Memorial Day and Armistice Day (as Veteran’s Day was then called) parades.  The Spanish American War veterans and Great War veterans marched in those parades. The Civil War veterans rode in open-top motorcars. (Several of his great-uncles and  grandparents also served in the Civil War, and related their experiences, which he passed on to me.)

In turn those Civil War veterans were his link to the American Revolution. As children, they in turn, met veterans of that conflict. (On both sides – a lot of those in the armies of our former foe in that war eventually moved to America.) That gave me an acquaintance at only two removes to the founders of this country.

The ties to our past eventually fray and break. We should cherish the ones that are still there for as long as we can. Rest well, Good Queen Bess.

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  1. Nohaaj Coolidge
    Nohaaj
    @Nohaaj

    Interesting post, though I had never heard of this Elizabeth being referred to as Queen Bess.  But, I never really paid that much attention to the Royals.  Was this a familiar title used by her friends? 

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  2. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
    MWD B612 "Dawg"
    @danok1

    I note that two of President John Tyler’s (March 29, 1790 – January 18, 1862, POTUS 1841 to 1845) grandchildren are still with us today. Amazing.

     

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  3. Seawriter Contributor
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Interesting post, though I had never heard of this Elizabeth being referred to as Queen Bess. But, I never really paid that much attention to the Royals. Was this a familiar title used by her friends?

    Don’t know. Don’t care. Good Queen Bess was frequently used to describe her predecessor Queen Elizabeth I. ERII is as much a good queen as ERI referring to  ERI as good Queen Bess and links the two queens, two of the three greatest monarchs England has ever had (the third being another queen, Victoria.) 

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  4. She Member
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    @She

    Great post.

    Seawriter: My father and father-in-law were both veterans of World War II. They both died in 2018, both in their 90s. More than that, my father-in-law was my direct link to the American Civil War. He was born during the Presidency of Warren Harding. He related stories of watching Civil War veterans pass by in Memorial Day and Armistice Day (as Veteran’s Day was then called) parades…

    I love thinking about family in the context of history this way.  Dad’s oldest siblings, Uncle Arthur and Aunt Mary (born in 1907 and 1909 respectively) had vivid memories of “Grandma Wells” who was born in 1818, three years after Waterloo  and who died in 1915.  Their mother (my grandmother, who was born in 1877) remembered Grandma Wells’s mother, who was born in 1791 and died in 1884. (Not for nothing did Mr. She refer to my family, on both sides, as The Dúnedain.)

    So a woman who was alive in my lifetime, although she died when I was just an infant, had clear childhood memories of a lady who was born just three years after the US Constitution was ratified and adopted.

    Here’s what just one of my family’s historians (Auntie Mary) had to say about this in the mid 1980s:

    Grandma Wells was born Mary Hudson in 1818 and lived to be 97.  I remember her well when I was a child as she lived with Grandma and Grandpa Stoddard.  She it was who, when she was 12, worked the sampler which hangs in our sitting room.  Mother used to tell us that she remembered Mary (Hudson) Wells’s mother who was born before the end of the eighteenth century.  She was taken to see her as a child and remembered her sitting up in bed in a frilly night cap.  She had no teeth and used to have sugar candy to suck, purchased at Burgess and Couldbourne.

    It’s an incredible gift to have these sorts of memories passed on.  I can’t help thinking that an oft-overlooked ill-effect of today’s fractured families is the loss of this sort of perspective and context, both as it applies to a sense of “fitting in” for the people involved, and as an inability to think instinctively of life and time in an evolving and historical framework. 

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  5. Seawriter Contributor
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    She (View Comment):
    It’s an incredible gift to have these sorts of memories passed on. 

    I ended up recording a lot of my father-in-law’s talks about family history.  He would come over on Sundays for dinner. Then afterwards he would reminisce about family history. I began capturing those on MP3 recordings. My sons have copies. 

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  6. Mad Gerald Coolidge
    Mad Gerald
    @Jose

    My father and his sisters remembered their grandparents stories about the civil war.  Amazing stuff.

    With one exception, the only members of my extended family who are interested in family history are childless.  Perhaps having children makes one look forward instead of back, but I’m not happy about that.

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  7. Mad Gerald Coolidge
    Mad Gerald
    @Jose

    One civil war story:  The people in my grandparent’s community were leary of the approach of troops, from either side.  Their forefathers had told of soldiers “commandeering” whatever they wanted from the locals.  People advised each other to bury their prized possessions.

    One the the neighbors buried her down comforter.

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  8. WillowSpring Member
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    @WillowSpring

    I knew a local historian who as a child had watched Col. John S. Mosby (The Grey Ghost of Civil War Fame) get a hair cut.  Mosby became a lawyer in Leesburg, Va (and also supported Grant for President)

     I stayed once at an inn in Brighton, England which had a room with a sign saying it had been renovated in sixteen hundred and something.

    These are all reminders of how young our country is. 

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  9. Captain French Moderator
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    @AlFrench

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    It’s an incredible gift to have these sorts of memories passed on.

    I ended up recording a lot of my father-in-law’s talks about family history. He would come over on Sundays for dinner. Then afterwards he would reminisce about family history. I began capturing those on MP3 recordings. My sons have copies.

    My daughter recently asked if I would do that.

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  10. Seawriter Contributor
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    @Seawriter

    Captain French (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    She (View Comment):
    It’s an incredible gift to have these sorts of memories passed on.

    I ended up recording a lot of my father-in-law’s talks about family history. He would come over on Sundays for dinner. Then afterwards he would reminisce about family history. I began capturing those on MP3 recordings. My sons have copies.

    My daughter recently asked if I would do that.

    Do it. Your family will appreciate it.

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