The Pollyanna Reports, IV

 

Finally! Good news on the Mar-a-Lago obscenity!

A Federal Judge has ordered the appointment of a Special Master to assume the task of inspecting the materials seized from President Trump’s residence, and maybe even from Mrs. Trump’s lingerie drawer and closet, and to determine the validity vel non of the various privilege defenses made by the former President. In other words, the [In}Justice Department and its Stasi appendage, a/k/a the Federal Bureau of Intimidation, will have to release their corrupt hold on these materials and we may finally find out what is in them. To which I say: Hallelujah! Here is an excerpt from an article on Just The News; it can be found here:

A federal judge on Monday handed Donald Trump a significant win, ordering a special master to review evidence seized by the FBI during its raid of the former president’s Florida estate last month.

U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon said the independent master can “review the seized property, manage assertions of privilege and make recommendations thereon, and evaluate claims for return of property.”

Can we treat ourselves to a glimmer of hope due to this development? Absolutely!

God Bless America!

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  1. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

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  2. Jim George Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, this would certainly fit their usual pattern of making everything as agonizingly slow as possible — just ask the poor unfortunate souls in the Jan. 6 DC Concentration Camp; as to whether, from the standpoint of legal procedure, they can appeal, my assumption would be there is no reason they could not file an interlocutory appeal from this ruling, as this decision is not dispositive of the entire case. However, I welcome the views of those attorneys who might have followed this particular case more closely than I have. 

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  3. Jim George Member
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, this would certainly fit their usual pattern of making everything as agonizingly slow as possible — just ask the poor unfortunate souls in the Jan. 6 DC Concentration Camp; as to whether, from the standpoint of legal procedure, they can appeal, my assumption would be there is no reason they could not file an interlocutory appeal from this ruling, as this decision is not dispositive of the entire case. However, I welcome the views of those attorneys who might have followed this particular case more closely than I have.

    Here is a most interesting passage from the Order from Daily Mail;  I have searched for the original document but it is not available yet:

    Her ruling also cited the risk of government leaks. 

    ‘In addition to being deprived of potentially significant personal documents, which alone creates a real harm, Plaintiff faces an unquantifiable potential harm by way of improper disclosure of sensitive information to the public,’ she wrote. 

    The judge also showed a sensitivity to Trump’s reputation should he be indicted or even just based on the search of his home.

    ‘As a function of Plaintiff’s former position as President of the United States, the stigma associated with the subject seizure is in a league of its own. A future indictment, based to any degree on property that ought to be returned, would result in reputational harm of a decidedly different order of magnitude,’ she wrote.

    In one passage the judge noted the ‘limits’ of her determination, stating that Trump ‘may not be entitled to return of much of the seized property or to prevail on his anticipated claims of privilege. That inquiry remains for another day,’ she added.

    She also rejected a government analogy that Trump’s push to get back documents owned by the U.S. government were akin to a drug dealer in a case who pleaded guilty to dealing cocaine, then sought the return of $140,000 seized during a raid.

    ‘Plaintiff has not pled guilty to any crimes; the Government has not clearly explained how Plaintiff’s hands are unclean with respect to the personal materials seized; and in any event, this is not a situation in which there is no room to doubt the immediately apparent incriminating nature of the seized material, as in the case of the sale of cocaine,’ she wrote.

    Clearly, she is not the Judge the [in]Justice Department was hoping for! 

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  4. Jim George Member
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    Link to entire order: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763.64.0_2.pdf

     

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  5. Quietpi Member
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    It’s definitely a win for Plaintiff, but really the damage is done, and never mind what DoJ claims re: dispo of the items seized, every stinkin’ thing has been copied a hundred different ways, probably fingerprinted, including the insides of the boxes, tested, analyzed, etc.  The judge could order every piece of paper, typewriter ribbon (I know, nobody uses typewriter ribbon anymore) every thing, be returned to Trump, and the judge can order that any records of the items taken be destroyed.  And no doubt DoJ will sign affidavits saying they have done just that.  They will never actually do it.  

    You can’t un-see something, and they have made sure that they have seen e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

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  6. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Someone on twitter reported they seized Trump’s financial and medical records. This would escalate this to a level of corruption we can’t let pass.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is collusion between some in executive departments and some in Congress. It is indeed year 7 of the coup.

    There is nothing Trump has done or said that should warrant this level of hatred and lawlessness against one man. We are truly in a fight to the death for the survival of one party or the other. Our side better wake up and figure out what the game is. We have allowed over opponents to gain control of almost all institutions and seats of power. They know it. That is why they can be so brazen. Two critical elections are ahead.

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    Someone on twitter reported they seized Trump’s financial and medical records. This would escalate this to a level of corruption we can’t let pass.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there is collusion between some in executive departments and some in Congress. It is indeed year 7 of the coup.

    There is nothing Trump has done or said that should warrant this level of hatred and lawlessness against one man. We are truly in a fight to the death for the survival of one party or the other. Our side better wake up and figure out what the game is. We have allowed over opponents to gain control of almost all institutions and seats of power. They know it. That is why they can be so brazen. Two critical elections are ahead.

    Another reason not to give NR money. 

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  8. Stad Coolidge
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    The only problem I see is if James Comey is appointed Special Master . . .

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  9. Jim George Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    The only problem I see is if James Comey is appointed Special Master . . .

    Now THAT would be a real threat to the soul of the Republic!

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  10. cdor Member
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    The FBI/DOJ is in possession of all the documents. The FBI did not allow Trump’s lawyers to observe the search of Mar a Lago. Everything we know about the inventory of items seized in the search is based on what the FBI tells us. The FBI has lied in the past about Trump in Crossfire Hurricane. They lied to the FISC Judge about affidavits they supplied to obtain highly obtrusive two bump search warrants on wireless devices starting with Carter Page

    I have to ask. Why should anyone believe that just because a Federal Judge orders a special master to review the documents the FBI won’t lie about what documents they have and what documents they have already copied for later use? Why was the FBI/DOJ so reluctant to establish an independent arbiter in the first place? It certainly wasn’t because they were concerned about playing fair or how the optics were perceived. 

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  11. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, this would certainly fit their usual pattern of making everything as agonizingly slow as possible — just ask the poor unfortunate souls in the Jan. 6 DC Concentration Camp; as to whether, from the standpoint of legal procedure, they can appeal, my assumption would be there is no reason they could not file an interlocutory appeal from this ruling, as this decision is not dispositive of the entire case. However, I welcome the views of those attorneys who might have followed this particular case more closely than I have.

    The other thing is, should anything stand in the way of this happening, Trump has the deep deep pockets to make sure things occur as he wants them to.

    If the (In)Justice Dept and FBI prevail in lower courts, Trump can take the matter up to SCOTUS.

    Unfortunately the Jan6th group did not have such deep pockets. (For the most part.)

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  12. Red Herring Coolidge
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    I noticed on the inventory they didn’t list anything taken from Barron’s room or Melania’s closet.  

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  13. Steve Fast Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    The only problem I see is if James Comey is appointed Special Master . . .

    Peter Strzok and Lisa Page will be appointed Co-Special Masters. And everyone will know not to go into their offices without knocking first and pausing until  . . .  well never mind, until what.

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  14. Jim George Member
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    Steve Fast (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    The only problem I see is if James Comey is appointed Special Master . . .

    Peter Strzok and Lisa Page will be appointed Co-Special Masters. And everyone will know not to go into their offices without knocking first and pausing until . . . well never mind, until what.

    Truly a nest of snakes–if I may be excused for logically  following your thought–writhing around! 

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  15. Jim George Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, they filed an appeal this afternoon, claiming that to stop their harassment investigation would pose a serious danger to the Republic.

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  16. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    Jim George (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, they filed an appeal this afternoon, claiming that to stop their harassment investigation would pose a serious danger to the Republic.

    Good grief …

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  17. cdor Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim George (View Comment):

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    Jim, I heard somewhere that the DOJ would appeal this ruling. Can they still do that?

    Susan, they filed an appeal this afternoon, claiming that to stop their harassment investigation would pose a serious danger to the Republic.

    Good grief …

    The DOJ is being completely transparent. They believe that only they get to call the shots. If they say something is classified, even if it’s your personal tax Returns, then they can say you cheated and you cannot defend yourself because it’s classified. This is just too stupid to believe. Unfortunately however, it is true.

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