Without Evidence

 

Disappointing headline of the day: “Trump Claims Without Evidence John Fetterman Does Drugs in Wild PA Speech: He Dresses ‘Like a Teenager Getting High in his Parents’ Basement’”

Former President Donald Trump accused Pennsylvania lieutenant governor and Democratic Senate candidate John Fetterman of doing hard drugs, all without producing any kind of tangible evidence to back his claim up.

They have to speak English as a distant second language to not understand Trump’s actual meaning. Here is the actual sentence:

Fetterman may dress like a teenager getting high in his parents’ basement, but he’s a raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals out of jail in the middle of the worst crime wave in Pennsylvania history.

Trump is not criticizing Fetterman’s alleged drug use. He’s criticizing Fetterman’s alleged wardrobe.

So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he is the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail?”

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Ah, the old tactics.

    Biden actually says that voters are 

    you know what never mind. 

    • #1
  2. DMak Member
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    @DMak

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
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    Once again, you have to read what the President actually said in order to get the truth. The Press has been lying like this for six years.

    Isn’t this misinformation? Isn’t this grounds for having the FBI show up at your door?

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  4. kedavis Inactive
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Once again, you have to read what the President actually said in order to get the truth. The Press has been lying like this for six years.

    Isn’t this misinformation? Isn’t this grounds for having the FBI show up at your door?

    Or at least the Facebook Police and Twitter Police.

    • #4
  5. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    • #5
  6. Percival Thatcher
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    His pictures look like your typical “police are seeking this man in connection …” photos.

    • #6
  7. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Trump is an incredibly flawed man. But he looks like Abraham Lincoln compared to these clowns.

    • #7
  8. Henry Racette Member
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    “hard drugs”

    Is that what teenagers typically get high on in their parents’ basements (he asks, reaching for his bottle of hard drugs and pouring himself a bourbon)?

    • #8
  9. namlliT noD Member
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    • #9
  10. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Who does Trump think he is?  Harry Reid?

    • #10
  11. Dotorimuk Coolidge
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    The body shape is the same….

    He also resembles Uncle Fester.

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  12. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    The body shape is the same….

    He also resembles Uncle Fester.

    Not to mention looking like the guy who escaped from Gene Wilder’s laboratory…

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  13. Percival Thatcher
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    • #13
  14. navyjag Coolidge
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    DMak (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

    And chased down a black kid with his shotgun.  Real  brave dude. And may be a U.S. Senator if he survives the next two months. God help us. But will no doubt be one of Slow Joe’s pals. Will camp out on the Delaware beach together. 

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  15. kedavis Inactive
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    DMak (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

    And chased down a black kid with his shotgun. Real brave dude. And may be a U.S. Senator if he survives the next two months. God help us. But will no doubt be one of Slow Joe’s pals. Will camp out on the Delaware beach together.

    And comb each others’ leg hair?

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  16. navyjag Coolidge
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    One difference KE.  Slow Joe didn’t have to live with his parents for decades. He figured out to lie and get on the public payroll as a young man. 

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  17. thelonious Member
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    He is the most evil looking candidate since….hmmm…

    Ho

    How do those stick legs hold that frame up?

    Edit: The Fetterman picture didn’t show up on this comment. I was writing about him, not the cartoon character although both look like cartoon characters.

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  18. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    DMak (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

    And chased down a black kid with his shotgun. Real brave dude. And may be a U.S. Senator if he survives the next two months. God help us. But will no doubt be one of Slow Joe’s pals. Will camp out on the Delaware beach together.

    Riding a new tandem bike to brunch. 

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  19. ctlaw Coolidge
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    The “without evidence” phrase from the list of terms that the media is apparently required to include in any Trump story (“lies”, “falsely”, etc.) is the oddest. 

    It is often used in contexts where the evidence is right there. And this leads to bizarre linguistic contortions.

    The most interesting thing here is the phrase “without producing“. I have not seen this used much before. This may be an attempt to finesse prior media lies about “no evidence“. For example, there was tons of evidence of vote fraud or other irregularities in the 2020 election. Consider locking out count watchers, etc.

    in the election context, we see the media go through contortions about how they really meant the bizarrely unprovable assertion that trump’s evidence did not conclusively prove that the fraud flipped enough electoral votes

    Did someone get advice to use “without producing“ on the theory that it added some vagueness? For example, does this allow the writer to claim accuracy as long as Trump’s statement was not immediately followed by the evidence?

    note another media trick. Although the body of the article said “without producing“, the headline said “without evidence“. This appears to be a mechanism for the media to avoid liability for defamatory headlines.

    But, as noted in the original post, Trump did not accuse Fetterman of drug use. Doth the media protest too much? Is Fetterman actually a drug user?

     

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    navyjag (View Comment):

    DMak (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

    And chased down a black kid with his shotgun. Real brave dude. And may be a U.S. Senator if he survives the next two months. God help us. But will no doubt be one of Slow Joe’s pals. Will camp out on the Delaware beach together.

    And comb each others’ leg hair?

    That beach image is cringeworthy.  But, who am I to judge?

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  21. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    ctlaw (View Comment):

    The “without evidence” phrase from the list of terms that the media is apparently required to include in any Trump story (“lies”, “falsely”, etc.) is the oddest.

    It is often used in contexts where the evidence is right there. And this leads to bizarre linguistic contortions.

    The most interesting thing here is the phrase “without producing“. I have not seen this used much before. This may be an attempt to finesse prior media lies about “no evidence“. For example, there was tons of evidence of vote fraud or other irregularities in the 2020 election. Consider locking out count watchers, etc.

    in the election context, we see the media go through contortions about how they really meant the bizarrely unprovable assertion that trump’s evidence did not conclusively prove that the fraud flipped enough electoral votes

    Did someone get advice to use “without producing“ on the theory that it added some vagueness? For example, does this allow the writer to claim accuracy as long as Trump’s statement was not immediately followed by the evidence?

    note another media trick. Although the body of the article said “without producing“, the headline said “without evidence“. This appears to be a mechanism for the media to avoid liability for defamatory headlines.

    But, as noted in the original post, Trump did not accuse Fetterman of drug use. Doth the media protest too much? Is Fetterman actually a drug user?

    Something has to account for that body type and RBF.

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  22. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    At some point it becomes apparent that the media thinks that the people are stupid. I suppose in their view the people are. After all they elected Trump in 2016 and absent a herculean (and illegal) effort he would have won in 2020. So, the voters must be stupid and thus if Trump can sway them with his “lies” then we can as well. 

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  23. Percival Thatcher
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    navyjag (View Comment):

    DMak (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN:

     

    So by defending Fetterman’s alleged drug use, are they admitting he IS the “raging lunatic hellbent on springing hardened criminals from jail”?

    Well, he does have two convicted murderers working for his campaign.

    And chased down a black kid with his shotgun. Real brave dude. And may be a U.S. Senator if he survives the next two months. God help us. But will no doubt be one of Slow Joe’s pals. Will camp out on the Delaware beach together.

    Does Joe’s basement have a guest room?

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  24. Rodin Member
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    I guess we should be grateful that Fetterman is not a typical “overly coiffed politician”. But in reality we have to examine the underlying motivations for the way he presents himself and is happy to be seen. Personally I prefer Hawaiian shirts, sandals and shorts. But I would not wear them if I was running for office. (Well, maybe I would be tempted to do so.) It is a fine line between taking yourself seriously enough to be a viable candidate and taking yourself too seriously and projecting self-importance. But I prefer President Trump’s style — dressing well and talking like real people — to dressing like the Left’s stereo-typical image of a Walmart shopper and talking like a progressive politician.

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  25. Rightfromthestart Coolidge
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    ‘Without evidence’ is only used for Trump If he said his coffee was cold  they would report it as ‘claims without evidence’. 
    let’s see:

    Biden -Corn pop, worked in a mine , drove a big rig , top of his class, etc. 

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  26. Skyler Coolidge
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    Trump shows his brilliance again.

    And Fetterman does look pretty satanic with that goatee and his stark facial features.

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  27. Terry Mott Member
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    @TerryMott

    As pointed out above, “without evidence” is one of the ways the media defends leftists.  It’s inverse is “credibly accused,” which they use against conservatives.

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  28. Percival Thatcher
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    @Percival

    Rodin (View Comment):
    I guess we should be grateful that Fetterman is not a typical “overly coiffed politician”.

    He looks like an extra from The Longest Yard.

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  29. Basil Fawlty Member
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    Percival (View Comment):
    Does Joe’s basement have a guest room?

    It probably has a shower.

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  30. Franco Member
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    So the headline claims, without evidence, that Trump lied about Fetterman. 

    Any sixth-grade English student, even in our pathetic public school system,  can see that the statement was about the candidates style of dress.

     

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