Why I Don’t Care About Student Loans

 

This was an easy issue for Republicans to own. Republicans never even attempted to kick the government out of the loan business. Now that Biden has unilaterally dissolved 10k of student debt, where are the calls for reform? Where are the promises to end this fiasco? There are none. There is no leadership from either side, like usual. Left-wing Marxist university presidents and professors should be hauled up in front of Congress to explain why education isn’t a right like healthcare in their minds, and why they don’t work for free. They should have their rotten course material recited in front of the country, and be made to explain how this garbage helps anyone get a job.

There was no reform. There was no leadership. The issue was handed to Democrats who always meant to solve this by not solving it. More kids are still taking out loans and no one is doing anything about it. Republicans can’t get off the “why am I paying off someone else’s bills?” line. That lament isn’t leadership and it isn’t an agenda. It’s impotent crying. The Democrats just bought themselves a whole bunch of votes before the midterms. A real opposition party would do something about this other than issue impotent talking points about how this is wrong.

I wish Republicans cared as much as why the middle class is paying for the defense of Ukraine. Biden announced more billions for them today as well. I’d rather that money go to anything in America other than that corrupt country. Why is the middle class paying for the healthcare, benefits, and transportation of illegals that cross our border in droves daily? Why did the middle class have to transfer hundreds of billions to the health insurance companies when Obama care was passed, and why isn’t it being demanded back? Why did the middle class have to pay big pharma billions for their clot shots? Why did the middle class have their businesses and livelihoods shut down during the pandemic while mega corps stayed open? Why did the middle class have their factories shipped to China and get their industrial towns hollowed out? Why did the middle class have to bail out banking and insurance companies during the ’08 recession?

Republicans have led on none of this. They facilitated a good deal of it. Yet, the level of crying is to the tenth power when the bailout is for common Americans, and not foreigners or mega-corporations. I wish there were bailouts of no one. Moral hazard is long passed caring about. Both parties have made it difficult for the average American to be prosperous and fruitful in his own country.

The needs of foreigners, invaders, and rootless disloyal corporations have been put above the common man. It is time for leadership and reform so our country is less corrupt and the average American prospers. This is much bigger than this stupid debt relief. I would like the trillions back that we sunk into Iraq and Afghanistan to prop up their governments, militaries, education, and infrastructure as we let ours wither. I am on the hook for my portion of that debt as is every other American. It is time for a program that puts our citizens first. A program that puts their needs and advancement first. Socialism for the world but bootstraps for Americans is not healthy and has wrecked our country. Americans in debt deserve a way out more than Iraq and Afghanistan deserved democracy. More than Ukraine deserves our money. More than the banks and insurance companies deserved anything but jail. The GOP should lead and find that way out without making tradesmen pay for it. If they are unable, then they deserve what the Democrats make them eat.

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  1. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    It is not just that the USA taxpayers are watching our Fed government ship our monies over to the Ukraine – it is that we most likely will also have to watch our natural gas end up being  shipped over there as well.

    In Australia, various energy sectors have been shut down, so that the Down Under continent does not affect the Climate Crisis by its release of fossil fuels. But even as that is occurring, the same fossil fuels are being sent off in a humanitarian gesture, again, to the Ukraine, where I guess there is some special magic that sees to it that the fossil fuels don’t impact Gaia if they are used inside that nation.

    Meanwhile in The UK:

     

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  2. kedavis Inactive
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    It wouldn’t all be so bad if we were still a net energy exporter, but Biden took care of that literally on Day One.  So now we’re not only not producing enough natural gas for ourselves, but they want to ship some of what we DO produce to somewhere else!  Madness.

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  3. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Student loans have been a fiasco since they were opened up to all majors instead of Stem as they were originally. People note that tuition is climbing much faster than inflation and that more jobs are requiring a degree (in part because the public schools are failing to educate and prepare kids for the job market). This entire affair has been a triumph for the left because it will lead to the eventual funding of higher education for everyone by the gov’t allowing the education lobby to be funded for four more years of mandatory schooling.

    We are starting to see some coherent action from the GOP on education. AZ has divorced state funding from the local school and allowed the funds to travel with the student. Other states are moving in that direction. There will still be issues,  special education being one example,  it it’s a start.  Overall leadership from conservatives on education has been abysmal, kind of like their leadership on all issues. Even now we are arguing how govt is going to solve this problem and how GOP leaders should do something when it was govt involvement that caused the problem in the first place. Ahh well, we don’t learn do we? 

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  4. Chris B Member
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    A modest proposal: To avoid the need to forgive student loans in the future, Joe Biden should mandate an immediate and permanent decrease in tuition of $10,000 for a 4 year degree from their current rates for all institutions of higher learning that accept Federal funds for any reason.

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  5. Old Bathos Moderator
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    Funny that Democrats never call for price controls on tuition.  Any federal funding in a state grant, highway funds etc justifies all kinds of policy micromanagement but not tuition for some reason.  Why not, for example, a rule that any school accepting federal aid or students on any federally backed loan may not have a ratio of faculty to administrators less than 10:1?  No segregated dorms or programs?  Why not a mandatory disclosure of what the school’s degrees are actually worth in the marketplace?

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  6. Gossamer Cat Coolidge
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    GlenEisenhardt: The issue was handed to Democrats who always meant to solve this by not solving it. More kids are still taking out loans and no one is doing anything about it. Republicans can’t get off the “why am I paying off someone else’s  bills?” line. That lament isn’t leadership and it isn’t an agenda. It’s impotent crying.

    Yup.  This issue was tailor made for Republicans to bring much needed reforms and as usual, they did nothing.  The could have taken on Big Ed and just shown the graphs of how tuition has outstripped inflation.  Trump also could have led the way on this during his first two years.  Now I’m on the hook for my part of $500B issued by a fiat order from the President, who is not my representative and who does not hold the power of the purse.   

    I don’t know what else to do.  

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  7. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    I don’t care because there is nothing I can do about it.  They are going to give money to anybody that will further the Democrat agenda.  What I say or how I vote will do nothing to stop it, slow it down, etc.  About all my resistance will do is maybe get me fired, jailed, killed.  

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  8. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Chris B (View Comment):

    A modest proposal: To avoid the need to forgive student loans in the future, Joe Biden should mandate an immediate and permanent decrease in tuition of $10,000 for a 4 year degree from their current rates for all institutions of higher learning that accept Federal funds for any reason.

    A 10 k decrease in a college student’s need to finance their education would be equivalent to  about  four years of text book costs.

    Professors constantly up date their textbooks, so that what they wrote in 2018 has totally different page numbers and chapter headings from the edition they require in 2021.

    Textbook have always cost a lot. But now it is quite impossible to purchase used textbooks and through doing that,  offset some of the college costs in that thrifty manner.

    I would love to see this practice discouraged.

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  9. kedavis Inactive
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Chris B (View Comment):

    A modest proposal: To avoid the need to forgive student loans in the future, Joe Biden should mandate an immediate and permanent decrease in tuition of $10,000 for a 4 year degree from their current rates for all institutions of higher learning that accept Federal funds for any reason.

    A 10 k decrease in a college student’s need to finance their education would be equivalent to about four years of text book costs.

    Professors constantly up date their textbooks, so that what they wrote in 2018 has totally different page numbers and chapter headings from the edition they require in 2021.

    Textbook have always cost a lot. But now it is quite impossible to purchase used textbooks and through doing that, offset some of the college costs in that thrifty manner.

    I would love to see this practice discouraged.

    You’d probably have to pay the professors to not “update” their textbooks since that must be one way they supplement their “meager” incomes.

    Meanwhile, how about no federal loans/etc to schools unless the professors actually teach the classes?

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  10. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Chris B (View Comment):

    A modest proposal: To avoid the need to forgive student loans in the future, Joe Biden should mandate an immediate and permanent decrease in tuition of $10,000 for a 4 year degree from their current rates for all institutions of higher learning that accept Federal funds for any reason.

    A 10 k decrease in a college student’s need to finance their education would be equivalent to about four years of text book costs.

    Professors constantly up date their textbooks, so that what they wrote in 2018 has totally different page numbers and chapter headings from the edition they require in 2021.

    Textbook have always cost a lot. But now it is quite impossible to purchase used textbooks and through doing that, offset some of the college costs in that thrifty manner.

    I would love to see this practice discouraged.

    My oldest is in her fourth year at a Private University in San Antonio.  Her textbook costs have rarely topped $300 a semester.  Her school has a textbook rental program that saves her a bunch.  They also make use of eBooks for some textbooks.  This semester she had a single textbook that was over $200 and no rentals available, but her overall cost was still only about $400 for the semester.  It does depend greatly on the major of study.  Her major is English, Reading, & Language Arts with a Music minor and is getting her Secondary Education certificate at the end of the year.  Of course she is only really able to attend the school because she is getting almost a completely free ride due to scholarships.  In fact, it is costing her less out of pocket than attending the UT Austin or UT San Antonio due to much less financial aid.

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    GlenEisenhardt: Both parties have made it difficult for the average American to be prosperous and fruitful in his own country.

    The Democrats like it because it creates an opportunity to produce more government. Simplistic commie talking points are generated and it usually works. 

    Republicans don’t think it through thoroughly, partly because they are too busy being productive in business and procreating more W-2 slaves that they have to take care of.

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  12. Ammo.com Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I don’t care because there is nothing I can do about it. They are going to give money to anybody that will further the Democrat agenda. What I say or how I vote will do nothing to stop it, slow it down, etc. About all my resistance will do is maybe get me fired, jailed, killed.

    That is why we meme.

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  13. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Ammo.com (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I don’t care because there is nothing I can do about it. They are going to give money to anybody that will further the Democrat agenda. What I say or how I vote will do nothing to stop it, slow it down, etc. About all my resistance will do is maybe get me fired, jailed, killed.

    That is why we meme.

    I suspect that too will be outlawed.  

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  14. kedavis Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Ammo.com (View Comment):

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    I don’t care because there is nothing I can do about it. They are going to give money to anybody that will further the Democrat agenda. What I say or how I vote will do nothing to stop it, slow it down, etc. About all my resistance will do is maybe get me fired, jailed, killed.

    That is why we meme.

    I suspect that too will be outlawed.

    Only “right-wing” memeing will be outlawed.

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