NeverTrump Helping Democrats in Missouri Senate Race

 

An ally of Liz Cheney is running as a third-party candidate in Missouri to help the Democrats take another Senate seat.

Former U.S. Attorney John Wood stepped down as lead investigator for the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 this summer to launch an independent Senate bid in Missouri.  Wood is a close friend of the Cheney family and formerly worked in the second Bush administration with stints at the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

Wood’s Senate campaign is now being financed by another alumnus of the Bush administration, former Missouri Sen. John Danforth, who was President Bush’s ambassador to the United Nations between 2004 and 2005. In July, Danforth’s super PAC launched a $750,000 dollar ad blitz and announced plans to raise anywhere from $20 to $40 million for the fall campaign.

So, a former Republican senator and Bush administration official is going to try and raise $40 million. He will not use this money to help flip blue seats in Georgia and Arizona. He will not use this money to protect vulnerable Republican seats in North Carolina or Pennsylvania. Instead, he will force the Republican Party to expend resources defending what should be a safe Republican senate seat in Missouri.

The pattern of Never-Trumpers openly supporting Democrats demonstrates that they are not principled conservatives. They are a Democrat fifth column embedded in Republican ranks, who will undermine the party’s chances at every opportunity.

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  1. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    I doubt Liz Cheney will poll high enough to be on the debate stage.

    By that time, her support of open borders, pro abortion etc. D candidates will have finished her off as a viable R candidate.

    Liz Cheney has a pretty solid 5% of Republicans, which is more than anyone else, other than Trump and DeSantis, and maybe Pence.

    A solid 5%.  Whew, she is going to be an unstoppable force! (Gary, do you realize what a joke a Liz Cheney presidential candidacy would be?  C’mon, it would be embarrassing.  I think Evan McMullin will get more support than her.)

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  2. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I trust that you will be watching the Republican Party debates? Because Liz Cheney is going to be there and will break Donald Trump.

    Liz Cheney is going to run for President??? You can’t be serious. Please tell me that you are dreaming.

    Trump is going to lose the New Hampshire Primary and whoever wins the New Hampshire Republican Primary will be our next President. You heard it here first.

    That is a very bold prediction. Trump hasn’t even declared that he is running. What makes you think that the winner of New Hampshire automatically gets the nomination? Has it been some kind of infallible bell-weather Primary?

    The winner of the New Hampshire Primary almost always wins the nomination, especially among Republicans, with McCain winning in 2000 being the notable exception. If Trump loses in New Hampshire, he will be finished.

    Why is the New Hampshire Primary even a concern for you?  It seems weird to dwell on something so trivial that hasn’t even happened yet.

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  3. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Quietpi (View Comment):

    Quietpi (View Comment):

    I’ve been avoiding this thread, because I knew what was going to happen. But I do have a burning question:

    Gary, please list the things that Donald Trump did as President of which you disapprove. Be specific.

    The Trump Big Lie after the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection are disqualifying per se.

    Trump cultivation of a Cult of Personality is another.

    Blaming Trump himself for the cult of personality rather than the actual people who treat him like a hero is really a big stretch.  You are scraping the bottom of the barrel on that one.  You happen to idolize Ronald Reagan in the same way that others idolize Trump, and I don’t blame Reagan for fostering a “cult of personality” because of your worship.

    Trump was totally unable to negotiate with Democrats; why he did not have an infrastructure bill in 2017 is beyond me.

    Why is negotiating with Democrats such a good policy?  The Democrats almost don’t have a thing in common with Republicans of late. 

    Trump’s betrayal of the Kurd’s in Syria is another black mark.

    I’m surprised that you consider this worse than Biden’s betrayal of the Afghan people and American citizens left behind to fend for themselves.  Not to mention, Biden’s initial refusal to help Ukraine until the Democrats in Congress threatened to override his veto of military and monetary assistance.

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  4. RufusRJones Member
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    The Kurd thing was complicated including the fact that a lot of those guys were communist. There are like four different groups. 

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  5. Flicker Coolidge
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    Well put.  This is the Neil Sedaka of politics.  Muskrat Love on our necks playing forever.  And kicking the jukebox doesn’t help.

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    You summed up that nonsense pretty well!  Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle.  It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    NTers are a kind of cult. 

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  7. Flicker Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    NTers are a kind of cult.

    Oh, yeah?  Well, do they have a golden haired High Priestess who will lead them or something?

    Oh, wait.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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    Focus on public policy and the breakdown of institutions we depend on. 

    When you go beyond that, it gets vague really fast.

     

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  9. Gary Robbins Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    I hear what you are saying.  I am in a distinct minority in the Republican Party and at Ricochet.  

    However, I am part of the majority of American Voters, and a majority of Independent Voters.

    I respectfully suggest that you ignore the majority of American Voters at your peril.

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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  11. Gary Robbins Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    I doubt Liz Cheney will poll high enough to be on the debate stage.

    By that time, her support of open borders, pro abortion etc. D candidates will have finished her off as a viable R candidate.

    Liz Cheney has a pretty solid 5% of Republicans, which is more than anyone else, other than Trump and DeSantis, and maybe Pence.

    A solid 5%. Whew, she is going to be an unstoppable force! (Gary, do you realize what a joke a Liz Cheney presidential candidacy would be? C’mon, it would be embarrassing. I think Evan McMullin will get more support than her.)

    5% gets her on the debate stage.  And if she camps out in New Hampshire, she will take Trump down, leading the way for another candidate to win the New Hampshire Primary and then take the Republican Nomination and the Presidency.

    Liz Cheney will be not unlike a Hockey Player who is an enforcer.

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  12. Gary Robbins Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    Quietpi (View Comment):

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    I’ve been avoiding this thread, because I knew what was going to happen. But I do have a burning question:

    Gary, please list the things that Donald Trump did as President of which you disapprove. Be specific.

    The Trump Big Lie after the 2020 election and the January 6th insurrection are disqualifying per se.

    Trump cultivation of a Cult of Personality is another.

    Blaming Trump himself for the cult of personality rather than the actual people who treat him like a hero is really a big stretch. You are scraping the bottom of the barrel on that one. You happen to idolize Ronald Reagan in the same way that others idolize Trump, and I don’t blame Reagan for fostering a “cult of personality” because of your worship.

    Trump was totally unable to negotiate with Democrats; why he did not have an infrastructure bill in 2017 is beyond me.

    Why is negotiating with Democrats such a good policy? The Democrats almost don’t have a thing in common with Republicans of late.

    Trump’s betrayal of the Kurd’s in Syria is another black mark.

    I’m surprised that you consider this worse than Biden’s betrayal of the Afghan people and American citizens left behind to fend for themselves. Not to mention, Biden’s initial refusal to help Ukraine until the Democrats in Congress threatened to override his veto of military and monetary assistance.

    Biden’s abandonment of Afghanistan was far, far worse, and is the worst thing Biden did.  But the question was for me to list things that I disapproved of about Trump.

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    I hear what you are saying. I am in a distinct minority in the Republican Party and at Ricochet.

    However, I am part of the majority of American Voters, and a majority of Independent Voters.

    I respectfully suggest that you ignore the majority of American Voters at your peril.

    No, he’s saying that you can’t have a violent overthrow without guns.  And nobody brought guns.  No swords.  No poleaxes.  No torches and pitchforks.  There was not even any attempt at a violent overthrow.  Who are you listening to that you are so hypnotized?

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  14. RufusRJones Member
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    Trump University was an ill-fated grift Trump launched a decade before he ran for office and for which he paid $25 million in legal settlements. It’s nothing to be proud of, but if Harris wants to get into a corruption contest, it pales by comparison with a president potentially compromised by millions of dollars in payments from China to the Biden family, as documented on the laptop and elsewhere.

    With liberal elitists, it’s a case of: I know Trump is existentially evil. I can’t explain exactly how I know. It’s a vibe. Trust me. In any case, who wants to be associated with the hobbits who support him? Ewww.

    This is really something else to read it in print.

     

     

     

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  15. Columbo Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    The problem is The Rule of Law. Since our country’s founding in 1789, we have had an unbroken series of the peaceful transfer of power. This is our sacred birthright, or at least it was. We are a government of laws, not men. No man is above the law. Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable, and he likely should be prosecuted, convicted, and incarcerated.

    This is where you totally lose me. Trump did not attempt to violently overthrow the government. Your assertion is so absurd it sounds like something coming from Alex Jones. Trump gave a speech to a crowd of supporters and never mentioned violence or overthrowing the government, and never told them to storm the Capital or anything close. He in fact told them to “peacefully protest.” Then a bunch of yahoos, with no direction from trump because they weren’t even at the speech, push their way into the Capital Building while others are simply invited in by guards, and they take a bunch of selfies and some souvenirs.

    I respectfully request that you watch the January 6th Committee hearings. I think that the only way to convince you might be for Trump to be indicted, and convicted.

    You are a lawyer and should be more aware than the average person about hyperbole and exaggeration. If you told a judge in court that Trump tried to violently overthrow the government he would either laugh at you or threaten you with contempt for making up a ridiculous story. Trump may be brash and rude, and may be totally deluded about the outcome of the election, and he certainly suggested to Mike Pence something that is not Constitutional, but he did not try to “violently overthrow the government.”

    Again, please watch the January 6th Committee Hearings. I believe that the large majority of my fellow Ricochetti agree with you. But a large majority of American voters do not.

    Gary, you are watching a Soap Opera, where the actors are ugly politicians who think they are Hollywood stars. Stop allowing yourself to be punked. Oh, unless you like that.

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  16. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    I hear what you are saying. I am in a distinct minority in the Republican Party and at Ricochet.

    However, I am part of the majority of American Voters, and a majority of Independent Voters.

    I respectfully suggest that you ignore the majority of American Voters at your peril.

    Simply “being in the majority” on anything is not a proof that Donald Trump tried to violently overthrow our government or that aliens have landed on earth.  You should know better than that.  By your reasoning, we must be right and you wrong because the majority on Ricochet think that idea of Trump overthrowing the gubmint is preposterous.

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  17. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    Trump’s betrayal of the Kurd’s in Syria is another black mark.

    I’m surprised that you consider this worse than Biden’s betrayal of the Afghan people and American citizens left behind to fend for themselves. Not to mention, Biden’s initial refusal to help Ukraine until the Democrats in Congress threatened to override his veto of military and monetary assistance.

    Biden’s abandonment of Afghanistan was far, far worse, and is the worst thing Biden did. But the question was for me to list things that I disapproved of about Trump.

    I thought the whole point of this discussion was to determine who is the better choice, Biden or Trump.

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  18. Steven Seward Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

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    I doubt Liz Cheney will poll high enough to be on the debate stage.

    By that time, her support of open borders, pro abortion etc. D candidates will have finished her off as a viable R candidate.

    Liz Cheney has a pretty solid 5% of Republicans, which is more than anyone else, other than Trump and DeSantis, and maybe Pence.

    A solid 5%. Whew, she is going to be an unstoppable force! (Gary, do you realize what a joke a Liz Cheney presidential candidacy would be? C’mon, it would be embarrassing. I think Evan McMullin will get more support than her.)

    5% gets her on the debate stage. And if she camps out in New Hampshire, she will take Trump down, leading the way for another candidate to win the New Hampshire Primary and then take the Republican Nomination and the Presidency.

    Liz Cheney will be not unlike a Hockey Player who is an enforcer.

    You are entitled to your opinion but I think you give her way too much credit.  She lost a primary race as an incumbent by a two to one margin in probably the most conservative State in the Union.

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  19. Columbo Inactive
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    Trump’s betrayal of the Kurd’s in Syria is another black mark.

    I’m surprised that you consider this worse than Biden’s betrayal of the Afghan people and American citizens left behind to fend for themselves. Not to mention, Biden’s initial refusal to help Ukraine until the Democrats in Congress threatened to override his veto of military and monetary assistance.

    Biden’s abandonment of Afghanistan was far, far worse, and is the worst thing Biden did. But the question was for me to list things that I disapproved of about Trump.

    I thought the whole point of this discussion was to determine who is the better choice, Biden or Trump.

    Welcome to Gary’s world …

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  20. Steven Seward Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

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    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    I hear what you are saying. I am in a distinct minority in the Republican Party and at Ricochet.

    However, I am part of the majority of American Voters, and a majority of Independent Voters.

    I respectfully suggest that you ignore the majority of American Voters at your peril.

    No, he’s saying that you can’t have a violent overthrow without guns. And nobody brought guns. No swords. No poleaxes. No torches and pitchforks. There was not even any attempt at a violent overthrow. Who are you listening to that you are so hypnotized?

    You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
    Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
    You’re moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
    You’ve just crossed over into
    The Twilight Zone

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  21. Quietpi Member
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    Well, I intended to reply in detail, but it looks like that’s pretty much done.

    I’ll add this re: the incidents on January 6.  Check your bookshelf:

    “Insurrection.  A violent revolt against an oppressive authority, usu. a government.  [“Insurrection is distinguished from rout, riot, and offense connected with mob violence by the fact that in insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government, while crimes growing out of mob violence, however serious they may be and however numerous the participants, are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.” 77 C.J.S. Riot; Insurrection Section 29, at 579 (1984).  –  Black’s Law Dictionary, Eighth Edition.  © 1999]”

    But wait – there’s more.  And as time passes, there’s more and more  – of the FBI / DOJ’s involvement that day, plus the bizarre nature of the . . . “investigation” of those events.  There is something terribly, terribly wrong, and it isn’t on Trump’s side.

    And this: If you aren’t aware of the  increasing evidence of voter fraud, emerging in the face of massive Democrat resistance, then you are willfully, even intentionally, ignorant.  Then there’s the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop, not to mention Hunter’s widespread illegal activities and “the big guy’s” involvement, and the inexplicable (in rational and legal terms) raid on Mar-a-Lago, and on and on and on . . .

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  22. Columbo Inactive
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    Trump’s attempt to violently overthrow the government is unforgivable

    You realize that this is idiotic. No ever attempts to violently overthrow any government without guns. It just doesn’t happen. Nobody that I’m aware of had a gun except the police. It’s not like conservatives don’t own guns. And no one plans any violent overthrow without them. It’s not like a 100,000 people couldn’t have brought them if they had wanted to, or had been told to as some sort of a violent overthrow. But they didn’t. Because it wasn’t even an attempt at a violent overthrow.

    What in the world are you believing here? Do you realize how irrational you are being?

    I’m really tired of you pushing your delusional thinking on everyone else, including me.

    You summed up that nonsense pretty well! Gary has a repeating record spinning in his head that no amount of evidence is going to move the needle. It’s some sort of weird obsession.

    I hear what you are saying. I am in a distinct minority in the Republican Party and at Ricochet.

    However, I am part of the majority of American Voters, and a majority of Independent Voters.

    I respectfully suggest that you ignore the majority of American Voters at your peril.

    No, he’s saying that you can’t have a violent overthrow without guns. And nobody brought guns. No swords. No poleaxes. No torches and pitchforks. There was not even any attempt at a violent overthrow. Who are you listening to that you are so hypnotized?

    You unlock this door with the key of imagination.
    Beyond it is another dimension: a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
    You’re moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
    You’ve just crossed over into
    The Twilight Zone

    Yes, @stevenseward, many of us have been there, done that ….

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  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Quietpi (View Comment):
    But wait – there’s more.  And as time passes, there’s more and more  – of the FBI / DOJ’s involvement that day, plus the bizarre nature of the . . . “investigation” of those events.  There is something terribly, terribly wrong, and it isn’t on Trump’s side.

    And the pipe bomb analysis from Revolver News. I mean that looks really bad. Everybody should give that guy a donation. You don’t have to subscribe, you can give one time. 

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    Biden has lead in 250,000 unaccompanied minors. HHS loses track of 40% of them. 

     

     

     

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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    I thought the whole point of this discussion was to determine who is the better choice, Biden or Trump.

    I think it was originally about some guy named John Wood that was running a spoiler campaign.  But that guy just dropped out. 

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  27. Steven Seward Member
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    Tell me seriously the reasons that us ordinary citizens are better off now under Biden.

    We are better off with Biden only because did not attempt to violently overthrow the government. Biden’s mistakes can be corrected. But if Trump had succeeded in overthrowing the government, that’s the whole ballgame.

    The Constitution is at risk. The Republic is at risk. They are far more important than any one person or political party.

    Gary, do you know of a single person other than yourself who feels better off because of Biden?

    Yes, I know of 330 million Americans who are better off because Trump was defeated. Trump is an existential danger to the Republic.

    Now c’mon! You can’t speak for all Americans to know how much better off they are. I asked you specifically if you knew anybody who feels that they are better off under Biden. I didn’t ask you to project their feelings for them.

    A sufficient amount of time has passed and I haven’t heard a response to my specific question.  Is that because you have not found, or cannot think of, a single person who thinks he is better off under Biden?  I’ll chalk that up as a yes.

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  28. Steven Seward Member
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    What is Trump supposed to do in the middle of a riot in order to end it? Speak to the crowd on TV?

    That would have been what any other President would have done. That is what Kevin McCarthy begged Trump to do. The press room is just down the hall from the Oval Office. Its camera is always on. All Trump had to do was to walk down to the press room and tell his supporters to go home.

    Gary, are you aware that Joe Biden, as a candidate, kept completely silent about the thousands of riots across the United States in the Summer of 2020, an election year no less.  He had some three months to “speak to the crowds” that were burning down, looting, and killing people, and yet he conspicuously kept quiet because they were rioting for Democrat causes.  IN fact not a single major Democrat politician condemned the riots, not even Nany Pelosi or Kamalla Harris who promoted the riots, and both of them are in line for the Presidency.  Does that not contradict your assertion that “any President would have done that” (speak to the rioters).   And yet you voted for and continue to defend Biden as being better than Trump.

    A much better case can be made that Biden “didn’t warn Americans”, nor provide them with an escape route from Afghanistan.  That got at least 13 American soldiers killed and nearly two hundred Afghans, not to mention a U.S. military bombing of an innocent Afghan family who were American allies.  Now isn’t that far more a dereliction of duty than Trump dithering for a couple hours which led to nobody getting killed?

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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

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    What is Trump supposed to do in the middle of a riot in order to end it? Speak to the crowd on TV?

    That would have been what any other President would have done. That is what Kevin McCarthy begged Trump to do. The press room is just down the hall from the Oval Office. Its camera is always on. All Trump had to do was to walk down to the press room and tell his supporters to go home.

    Gary, are you aware that Joe Biden, as a candidate, kept completely silent about the thousands of riots across the United States in the Summer of 2020, an election year no less. He had some three months to “speak to the crowds” that were burning down, looting, and killing people, and yet he conspicuously kept quiet because they were rioting for Democrat causes. IN fact not a single major Democrat politician condemned the riots, not even Nany Pelosi or Kamalla Harris who promoted the riots, and both of them are in line for the Presidency. Does that not contradict your assertion that “any President would have done that” (speak to the rioters). And yet you voted for and continue to defend Biden as being better than Trump.

    A much better case can be made that Biden “didn’t warn Americans”, nor provide them with an escape route from Afghanistan. That got at least 13 American soldiers killed and nearly two hundred Afghans, not to mention a U.S. military bombing of an innocent Afghan family who were American allies. Now isn’t that far more a dereliction of duty than Trump dithering for a couple hours which led to nobody getting killed?

    Gary, like all democrats, have the beliefs that 1) they never have to say that they are sorry and 2) could not care less that their behavior screams hypocrisy. Washes right over them like water off a duck’s back.

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    What is Trump supposed to do in the middle of a riot in order to end it? Speak to the crowd on TV?

    That would have been what any other President would have done. That is what Kevin McCarthy begged Trump to do. The press room is just down the hall from the Oval Office. Its camera is always on. All Trump had to do was to walk down to the press room and tell his supporters to go home.

    Gary, are you aware that Joe Biden, as a candidate, kept completely silent about the thousands of riots across the United States in the Summer of 2020, an election year no less. He had some three months to “speak to the crowds” that were burning down, looting, and killing people, and yet he conspicuously kept quiet because they were rioting for Democrat causes. IN fact not a single major Democrat politician condemned the riots, not even Nany Pelosi or Kamalla Harris who promoted the riots, and both of them are in line for the Presidency. Does that not contradict your assertion that “any President would have done that” (speak to the rioters). And yet you voted for and continue to defend Biden as being better than Trump.

    A much better case can be made that Biden “didn’t warn Americans”, nor provide them with an escape route from Afghanistan. That got at least 13 American soldiers killed and nearly two hundred Afghans, not to mention a U.S. military bombing of an innocent Afghan family who were American allies. Now isn’t that far more a dereliction of duty than Trump dithering for a couple hours which led to nobody getting killed?

    Gary, like all democrats, have the beliefs that 1) they never have to say that they are sorry and 2) could not care less that their behavior screams hypocrisy. Washes right over them like water off a duck’s back.

    It is truly mind-boggling.

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