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The Democrats Always Win in Overtime
In the 1912 Presidential election, Democrat Woodrow Wilson ran against an incumbent Republican President (William Howard Taft) and a former Republican President (Teddy Roosevelt). With the Republican vote split, Wilson won the Presidency with 42% of the vote. When he ran for re-election in 1916, his opponent (Republican Charles Evans Hughes) was declared the victor of the race. Wilson had lost his re-election bid. But a week after the election, California found some more ballots somewhere, and surprisingly enough, most of them were for Wilson. So a week after the election, California changed its election results to favor Wilson (by 3,806 votes), which then flipped the Electoral College in favor of Wilson.
In the 2000 Presidential Election, Republican George W. Bush ran against Democrat Al Gore (Gore famously focused his campaign on the theme, ‘strengthening the American family’). Bush was declared the victor, but Florida was close. So the recounts began. And strangely enough, each recount resulted in more votes for Gore. The media ran story after story about the recounts, wondering how many votes Gore would pick up in this next recount. Strangely enough, the media never considered the possibility that Bush might gain some votes. The Supreme Court ended this process before Florida could find enough votes for Gore to win, and Bush was named President.
In the 2020 Presidential Election, Republican incumbent President Donald Trump ran against Joe Biden (seen in the adjacent picture speaking to a roaring crowd, brimming with enthusiasm). The day after the election, the victor had not yet been decided because several states were still counting ballots for some reason. Trump was leading in most of them, though, and it appeared that he would win the presidency. But surprisingly enough, Biden came from behind in just enough of those states to win the Electoral College.
I’m not arguing that Democrats have a history of cheating in elections. Facebook fact-checked that and found it was not true. So forget that part.
That’s not my point, anyway. I’m just considering this history as I think about the recent FBI raid on Donald Trump’s home.
Donald Trump is undoubtedly the most thoroughly investigated citizen in American history. The FBI has been devoting seemingly limitless resources to various investigations covering various aspects of Trump’s life for at least six years. Impeachment hearings, congressional hearings, attorneys, accountants, Democrat opposition research, and so on – there is no nook or cranny in Trump’s public or personal life that has not been dissected and studied, over and over again, by lots and lots of people, for years now.
So the idea that this raid will suddenly discover, well, anything, seems exceedingly unlikely. And I would argue that if they had found anything at all that there would have been leaks to CNN and The New York Times by now.
But that’s not my point, either.
My point is that the longer this goes on, the less likely that whatever crime the Democrats eventually accuse Trump of committing is going to be real. I mean, come on. If the FBI announces tomorrow that they found a million-dollar check from North Korea to Donald Trump in his desk during their raid, I will find that extremely difficult to believe.
He’s the most thoroughly investigated citizen in American history. And now you’re going to find incriminating evidence lying around his house?
Come on.
Just like the recounts in the elections of 1916 and 2000 and 2020 – the longer they went on, the more certain it became that the Democrat would eventually win. Somehow. Surprisingly enough.
So we’ll see what the FBI, et al., come up with. Who knows, I suppose.
But after all these years, and all these investigations, at this point I think they’re much more likely to create something than to discover something.
They almost have to come up with something at some point, or else they’ll look pretty silly after all these investigations over all these years. After all this, there’s really no way for the FBI and the rest of the Democrats’ troops to just come out and say, “Yeah, you know, we didn’t find anything. He’s clean. Forget we ever said anything. We were wrong. Sorry about that.”
No way. So they’ve got to come up with something. And if they had anything, we would have known years ago. So at this point, I think the FBI has no other option but to create something. Anything, really.
Perhaps I’m being too cynical here.
But I’m starting to think that’s impossible…
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That the Democrats could pull together from nursing homes, the streets, god knows where else, and just a little fabrication where crucial, and some practice in clearly Democrat states enough votes to replace Trump is hardly surprising. To call the election fair is deluded thinking that will continue to destroy the US. If the Democrats can do it again we’ll have no choice but to remove every Republican run state and pieces of Democrat run states. The point is complete fools are running the country and will destroy it. If I’m wrong we’ll know in November but if right, then what? Even without the Chinese pulling levers and financing shenanigans to speed up their replacement of us, do folks believe that the US can be run from the top? Do folks have any idea what will happened to the overwhelmingly most diverse, complex, deep economy in history run by anyone, let alone these idiots with Chinese guidance?
Two words: Kevin. Clinesmith.
In addition, they realized they didn’t need to waste energy on canvasing, when vote harvesting is much more efficient.
Remember when Biden bragged about the fraud organization on the left?
And how the entire world responded with crickets?
The FBI has been around for 114 years. Which year was their best year? Looking at their timeline, I’d say 1932 (the start of technical analysis of fingerprints) or 1964 (busted some KKK members). But their wins are rare and losses are consistent.
The beginning of my interest and involvement in politics was my reading of Hugh Hewitt’s book, “If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat” about 15 years ago. I decided to volunteer as an election judge to see for myself. I saw the ground game. When I ran the precinct voting station during the Obama/Romney election, there was an attorney from the Democrat Party there all day. Republican observers came and went, but no attorneys.
All I needed to know about this last election is that Biden got more votes than any other presidential candidate in history. Right. Then I read Mollie Hemingway’s excellent book, which has all the detail that anyone could ask for. I’ve since sent 8 copies to people who I wish would read it, but probably won’t.
There has been an outbreak of anger at the execution of a search warrant at Trump’s home. Did I barge in and derail threads? No. I didn’t have enough information to comment.
Was I called out for not commenting? Yes.
If you or I see something which is pure and simply false on its face, I think that we have a duty to say something, which I (and you) have done.
Do I do that every time I disagree? No.
Have I pulled my punches? Many more times than you will ever know.
Did I vote for Biden? Yes. In 2020, for the first time in 48 years, I voted for a Democrat for President.
Do I regret that? No, I made the best call that I could based upon the information I had, and my intuition.
Has Biden been a disappointment? Yes, except as to Ukraine and infrastructure. But, contrast that with the Trump Big Lie, and his involvement and, um, leadership which is being revealed to an increasing degree, in the January 6th insurrection!
In your home state of Georgia, Republicans voted for Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger who won over Trump challengers. In my home state of Arizona, Trump endorsed candidates eaked out plurality wins by vigorously denying the 2020 election. Many of those candidates are going to lose in the General Election, as Republicans hold their noses and vote for the Democrats for Governor, Secretary of State and Attorney General, knowing that it is extremely likely that the Republicans will hold both houses of the legislature, and thus there will be a check on these newly elected Democrats.
A line from Support Your Local Sheriff comes to mind when the corrections begin. Garner says it better.
Cued to begin, no one has seen fit to separate that line for my convenience. (:09 to :14)
I had never seen this. Thank you.
I fully expected the Republicans to lose in 2000.
Yet that did not happen.
It was a glorious election. Damn, I worked hard on that one!
And yet you still refuse to question your demonstrably failed ‘intuition’. You have been wrong more times than anyone can count. It is way past time for some serious introspection Mr. Robbins.
Do you have that in a bumper sticker?
The vertical blue line occurs precisely when the verified votes were finished being counted and the bags of junkmail ballots harvested by Zuckerbuck activists were added.
First rule of Democrats (and NTers, apparently): Whatever you do, don’t believe your lyin’ eyes. Either that or the (utopian) ends justify the means.
Historically there are two advantages that Democrats have had which enable them to engage in “leaning on the scales” in lots of small ways. One, by nature and inclination people who support Democrats’ ethos are more likely to be involved in politics and governing bodies. Their natural interests are more in alignment with the business of government and politics, than are those of Conservatives. Which is also why professional “Conservative” political operatives are more likely, over time, to see things the same way that Democrats see them. I.e. “grow” in office. So the people in the various vote-counting bodies are more likely to be sympathetic to Democrats.
Second, for a much longer time Democrats have had a stronger ratio of paid to volunteer staffing in political operations than have Republicans (this discrepancy is diminishing lately). There is a lot of value in being both a true believer and getting paid to do it. That gives them the time, resources, and opportunity to “tip the scales” in lots of small ways. Enough to stay under the radar, but collectively make a difference. These efforts range from vote fraud to more ambiguous actions. For example, pushing new ways of voting and counting votes so as to provide more opportunity for ballots of unknown provenance to get into the count and lost with the many there. And since they are believers in what they do and by any means necessary, they can cheerfully live with being liars and cheats. It’s for a greater good. Don’cha know.
But the efforts have always had to be at the margins. Hence winning outside the margins of fraud. Lately, the larger institutional environment has made them more bold and desperate.
I’ve seen some with F*** Joe Biden with this as the F
Back to the original post: I think that the DOJ may come up with some jaywalking-quality charge to try to justify the raid. It will be laughed off like the impeachments.
I think what they are hoping for is that somewhere, some enraged Republicans will take it too far, do harm of some sort, giving the Democrats another 1/6 event. Then we get the obligatory end of democracy, another congressional investigation that insists that Trump was behind it and like the previous attempts to finally get him, they will fail. But it’s enough to get some Dems elected who would otherwise lose in November. Brandon has already done too much harm to be re-elected, so blaming his FBI/DOJ will not change the outcome in 2024.
I’m going out on a limb here, but I predict the MSM will support any and all accusations of Republican wrongdoing.
Rebel.
The most critical difference is that Democrats are the party of Government. Government to Democrats is their business, their livelihood, and very often, their religion. They have a zeal for politics, whereas conservatives and normal people have an aversion.
The party is mother, the party is father
Honestly, I think we would be better off eliminating elections. Politics tends to draw in megalomaniacs who crave power. If we just selected our legislatures by drawing lots, the results wouldn’t be any worse, or could potentially be a lot better. “80,000 new armed IRS agents… nah, bruh.” “$80 Billion to Ukraine when we can’t even secure our own borders? Nah, bruh.”
Always?
As the OP mentions, the Republican won in 2000. The Republican also won a close election in 1876. Trump also won a close election in 2016.
Of the really close Presidential elections that come to mind, the tally is 3-3:
1800 was also close, Jefferson over Adams, but that was before the emergence of the current parties.
For democrats, Government is their ‘religion’. It is the beginning and end of their interior passion. Conservatives, on the other hand, do have a faith-based religion, a belief in God that is their beginning and end. This serves to be a great impediment to success in politics and wordly things, but will serve us well in the ultimate end, which is not of this earth.
Why limit your research to only POTUS elections? Senate elections, Al Franken anyone?, seem also important to include.
An Arthur C. Clarke story set in 2276 featured an amendment along those lines. The President was chosen by lottery from the pool of citizens meeting the requirements to be President. The book didn’t explain how it was determined, but anyone displaying interest in being President was removed from the pool.
ROBBINS
“Did I vote for Biden? Yes. In 2020, for the first time in 48 years, I voted for a Democrat for President.
Do I regret that? No, I made the best call that I could based upon the information I had, and my intuition.”
Have to give credit to admitting to insanity. Lordy. I simply can’t imagine any sane Republican voting for a senile fool controlled by the Chinese rather than inexperienced Trump, who was sorting it out, always adjusting in the right direction but most importantly, knew who our enemy was and was dealing with it. Perhaps failing to understand what was going on and what the alternative was is the biggest crime. Our biggest problem is the total ignorance about the world and what is going on and where it’s headed.
Well, because I have a pretty good recollection of all of the Presidential elections. I don’t have such a recollection about Senate elections.
If you think that it’s important, then please include it. It would require some research, because to do a proper comparison, you’d have to look up all of the close races, not just the small number that you might recall.
I did leave another close one off of my list, though it’s an unusual situation. 1824, Adams over Jackson, the only time the House selected the President. This was before the emergence of the Republican party. The voting between Adams and Jackson wasn’t particularly close, but the vote was split four ways.
Republicans didn’t win in 2000 or 2016. The Supreme Court “selected” Bush in 2000 and the Russians got Trump “elected” in 2016. Just ask any Democrat (or NTer about the latter case).
Everything Democrats have done since 2016 is to ensure a DJT/MAGA presidency never happens again.
Alex the Chick’s Twitter timeline yesterday was sadly beautiful cataloging FBI failures. So many.
You can only eliminate one of these. Which do you choose?
No one who wants political power should be allowed to seek elected office.
Actually the opposite. I live in a heavily, heavily democrat city. And yet I saw less than a handful of Biden yard signs or bumperstickers.
When Obama ran, the place was plastered with Shepard Fairey HOPE posters, rising O logos, and “Yes we did” emblems.
Can you point to any actual enthusiasm for Biden? I sure can’t.