The Orange Dog That Didn’t Bark

 

One way or another, Trump’s DoJ did not raid Hillary.  And specifically, I mean that either he didn’t order the DoJ to turn her vodka cave upside-down, or the DoJ refused to do it because reasons.

Either Trump was a better, more moral President than Biden, or the mutiny and coup against Trump was real — or both.  But it cannot be the case that neither claim is true.

I know that I sound like a broken record at times, but Benghazi was a clarifying moment for me.  The Deep State is real. It amounts to at least a fourth branch of government, the investigation is the cover-up, and while many kooks are wrong, some of them are right.

Clinton’s e-mail server held a great many secrets which would be injurious to her, to Obama, and to the Democrat / Deep State project.  This is also why it existed in the first place — to avoid legally required monitoring and potential disclosure.  “Yoga,” my butt.

Hillary’s server was the nexus of a lot of bad stuff, because the people using it felt secure.  Fools.  One of my favorite targets for dumpster-diving that thing would have been the emails surrounding conversations between Hillary and folks like Petraeus, for whom I lost all regard.  I do think that the kerfuffle surrounding his affair was a lifeline to get him out of the line of questioning, the same way Susan Rice was moved under the Executive Privilege umbrella just in time.  Petraeus could still have answered questions related to his time in the previous office (and so could Rice), but for some reason, the excuse “no longer in office” was allowed to fly, and neither would return to testify when the heat was on.  Convenient, that.  And by heat, I mean the unanswered question, “who gave the order to stand down?”

Remember that the Benghazi debacle occurred shortly after Obama declared Mission Accomplished in the war on terror, and shortly before his re-election.  This is why Susan Rice peddled the absurd Nakoula Nakoula YouTube video story on five Sunday morning shows.  Bad America, you offended the Islamic Jihadis whom Obama, I assure you, soundly defeated  Nothing to see here — not a terror attack, nothing to do with the administration.  The incomprehensible action of absolutely nothing was our response.  The only way our response could possibly have been nothing is if there was immense pressure to suppress every instinct, trained response, and formal duty of various subordinate decision-makers and force commanders in the area.  It came from somewhere.

The ship has sailed on “Who gave the order?”, we will never get the answer, and Hillary cruised away from another disgusting episode, the key to which was that server.  Why do you think she had the server vaporized, and fought so hard to resist efforts to preserve, to obtain copies, to publicize the contents?  And why was she allowed to get away with it despite Republican control of the House?  Remember Darrell Issa?  Remember Trey Gowdy?  Great fiery speeches.  Bolshy Slovos.

Add to that the pay-for-play Clinton Global Initiative, the presence of obviously classified material, sometimes mutilated to remove classification markings, and the well-founded suspicion that John McCain’s own version of Charlie Wilson’s War running guns from Libya to Syria was represented on that server.  That server was the Hunter Biden laptop of the Clinton operation, and it slipped away.  Somehow.  Because reasons.

The server’s existence itself was a crime, it contained evidence of multiple crimes, and the clean-up was yet another crime.  Net result — no crime committed, no criminal intent, “no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges.”  You know the drill.  “Deny, deny, deny”, and when the “unimportant” and unaskable become old news and “already answered”, the thing is complete.

Slipped away because reasons, maybe, but via methods, and those methods have increasingly been brought to bear against the Republic itself.  Through the Benghazi cluster of very bad things, the Deep State both honed its tools and learned that it could get away with a lot more than it had thought.  This was not a case of the President knocking over countries and abandoning good — great — men to die in foreign hellholes.  This was something below the surface doing it regardless of the President’s intent.

Clinton was only in Washington DC for Obama to “keep his enemy closer”.  By putting her in the cabinet, he restricted her freedom of movement, except it only sorta worked out.  He reduced her threat to himself, and empowered her to lay waste to swathes of the government and the world at large.  he could lean on her, but she could also operate her cabinet-level department as she saw fit, and that’s exactly what happened.  The Clinton Crime Family Global Initiative rolled on, after all, with her faction increasingly competing not against Obama, but against the Biden Crime Family.  Even at the time, they fought for the number two spot regardless of title.  Russian Reset.  Burisma.  Rosemont Seneca Bohai and ten percent for the big guy.

I would say that for fans of Kremlinology, the US is now the most “Kremlinized” major power, followed by China and then Russia.  The DNC/DLC split has never actually been resolved, and during the Obama administration, it seems to me that Obama went with the third option — he weaponized the government itself as a partisan tool, and now he and his shadow government subsist entirely within the intel community and the inscrutable Byzantine bureaucracy.  ‘The One” has ascended into the machine.   The Biden camp and the Clinton camp are still competing for the number two spot.  They both have to in order to keep their permanent campaigns up so that any attempt to bring them to justice is met with media howls about the power of government being used for partisan purposes against a political rival.

And then we have Trump, against whom no number of impeachments, show trials, real FBI raids, Democrat pillaging of American cities,  or other Goldsteinization will ever suffice.  The two-minutes-hate will continue to be broadcast for 47 minutes of every hour, every day, and will not stop regardless of your eventual capitulation.  Comrade.

I suspect (and I almost never credit this throwaway laziness) that we do not have words adequate to convey the horror of what is happening.  I suspect the Russian language abounds in them.  And perhaps soon, Chinese.  Those people are waking up while we sleepwalk.

Oh, the Road Not Taken.

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  1. Instugator Thatcher
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    BDB: Trump was a better, more moral President than Biden

    I believe that to be true. And I do not say that as some sort of praise for Trump, but as an honest assessment of Biden.

    Heck, I’ll just praise Trump. Kept more promises than any other in my lifetime.

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  2. Stina Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

     

    For four years the forces that want Trump to be charged with crimes had control of all the resources to go after evidence. We know some things were manufactured. For an even longer period there has been opportunity, including when Republicans had the power, to go after Clinton. Nothing.

    Well, that sounds pretty — either irrational, hypocritical or corrupt. I was thinking more along the lines of how a dyed-in-the-wool NTer would see this.

    I don’t know about NTer’s but what I have seen is various investigative moves against Trump over these years with no evidence or probable cause ever presented, so investigations for nothing.

    Then over the years, numerous acts by Clinton that should warrant a look to see if there was something substantive but never even a serious investigation.

    I think it is basically a reflection of the political establishment viewpoint and that NTer’s like that. We saw this during Trump’s term, in the J6 inquiry, and now in the FBI search of his home. Nobody looks at anything related to the Clintons and nobody who is supposedly political opposition says anything. I never here anything from the Bushes unless it’s some mild criticism of a Trump action. Of course, Liz Cheney and her shadow on the J6 committee have actually gone overboard, but it is still the same story, no evidence of whatever they are looking for.

    I think NTer’s fit the pattern.

    I don’t think we disagree. You seem to be looking at the professional anti-Trumpers (the CIA, FBI, DNC, Press, etc.) and the process, and perhaps the failure, and I’m looking at NTers wondering at how they make their emotional stance mesh with their need to have an ostensible reason as to why Mar a Lago (MAL) was raided, and how they are processing this.

    If you absolutely know that Trump is a criminal and personally is the greatest threat to the republic ever, then anything no matter how otherwise illegal or unprecedented is justified. Judging by what I’ve seen from Tik Tok, there are NTers who absolutely want to have Trump, um, no more. So no law enforcement misbehavior is unjustified.

    In my big picture, I still don’t have a settled reason for the barbed wire around the Capitol, the second impeachment, the Jan 6th TV propaganda show, and now this attempt to find (or plant) something incriminating at MAL.

    The professionals have a logical reason (either convenience or fear), I’m more interested in the NTers emotional reasoning.

    Definitely Kevin Williamson’s take. He’s convinced Trump is guilty of something. It’s just a matter of time and enough investigating that it will undoubtedly turn up.

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  3. BDB Coolidge
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    Timothy Landon (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Timothy Landon (View Comment):

    BDB – thank you for reminding us of Benghazi. The Obama administration’s attempt to say it was spontaneous was truly nuts. That same group gave us the debacle of the Afghanistan withdrawal. I guess we shouldn’t have been surprised.

    The actions of the FBI, the DOJ, and the Judiciary this week are really flabbergasting.

    How didn’t someone, anyone, pump the brakes? It’s absurd. Why couldn’t the presidents lawyers and the government’s lawyers just work out the review and return of documents? It’s truly absurd.

     

    The Powers That Be didn’t need the situation resolved. They needed a pretext to raid Mar A Lago.

    First Afghanistan, then transitory inflation, then an FBI raid of a former president eligible for a second term.

    I’ve never voted for Trump in a general election. But if I was polled today, I’d pull the lever for him. He’s not as incompetent as Biden.

    And he’s uh, ON OUR SIDE.

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  4. Flicker Coolidge
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    Stina (View Comment):

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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Well, that sounds pretty — either irrational, hypocritical or corrupt. I was thinking more along the lines of how a dyed-in-the-wool NTer would see this.

    I don’t know about NTer’s but what I have seen is various investigative moves against Trump over these years with no evidence or probable cause ever presented, so investigations for nothing.

    Then over the years, numerous acts by Clinton that should warrant a look to see if there was something substantive but never even a serious investigation.

    I think it is basically a reflection of the political establishment viewpoint and that NTer’s like that. We saw this during Trump’s term, in the J6 inquiry, and now in the FBI search of his home. Nobody looks at anything related to the Clintons and nobody who is supposedly political opposition says anything. I never here anything from the Bushes unless it’s some mild criticism of a Trump action. Of course, Liz Cheney and her shadow on the J6 committee have actually gone overboard, but it is still the same story, no evidence of whatever they are looking for.

    I think NTer’s fit the pattern.

    I don’t think we disagree. You seem to be looking at the professional anti-Trumpers (the CIA, FBI, DNC, Press, etc.) and the process, and perhaps the failure, and I’m looking at NTers wondering at how they make their emotional stance mesh with their need to have an ostensible reason as to why Mar a Lago (MAL) was raided, and how they are processing this.

    If you absolutely know that Trump is a criminal and personally is the greatest threat to the republic ever, then anything no matter how otherwise illegal or unprecedented is justified. Judging by what I’ve seen from Tik Tok, there are NTers who absolutely want to have Trump, um, no more. So no law enforcement misbehavior is unjustified.

    In my big picture, I still don’t have a settled reason for the barbed wire around the Capitol, the second impeachment, the Jan 6th TV propaganda show, and now this attempt to find (or plant) something incriminating at MAL.

    The professionals have a logical reason (either convenience or fear), I’m more interested in the NTers emotional reasoning.

    Definitely Kevin Williamson’s take. He’s convinced Trump is guilty of something. It’s just a matter of time and enough investigating that it will undoubtedly turn up.

    I think Williamson is a hybrid.  He’s certainly different.  I haven’t read him in years, but from what I remember, and from comments I’ve read over the years, he’s sort of like an intellectual circus geek.  I may be wrong.

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  5. TempTime Member
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    I’ll just leave this here, and perhaps a few other places:

     

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  6. Percival Thatcher
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    TempTime (View Comment):

    I’ll just leave this here, and perhaps a few other places:

     

    WGN News doesn’t know it looks bad. WGN News doesn’t know today is Wednesday.

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  7. Steven Seward Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    TempTime (View Comment):

    I’ll just leave this here, and perhaps a few other places:

     

    WGN News doesn’t know it looks bad. WGN News doesn’t know today is Wednesday.

    I’ve never heard of WGN News.  Is that a new organization?

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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    TempTime (View Comment):

    I’ll just leave this here, and perhaps a few other places:

     

    WGN News doesn’t know it looks bad. WGN News doesn’t know today is Wednesday.

    I’ve never heard of WGN News. Is that a new organization?

    Local station in Chicago. When they had the Cubs (the Cubs were owned by the Tribune Corp. as was WGN (“World’s Greatest Newspaper”) they were a “superstation.” There are Cubs fans everywhere. They may well be available nationwide now, but I don’t know since I cut the cable in 2016. The news consists of some local stories, a rehash of the New York Times, weather (which is pretty good) and sports (meh).

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  9. Cosmik Phred Member
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    We all get the disparate punishment angle with Hillary vs. DJT…

    One of things that always bugged me about the whole Hillary email server thing was how on earth was she allowed to do it in the first place?

    OK, she was the Secretary of State. No one at State is gonna question the private email server. She’s the boss. If we question her she’ll throw a lamp at us or something. Fine.

    So the White House receives emails without the “state.gov” domain name, just shrugs and says:  “This is fine.” They don’t say: “This is weird, hey Barry, this could blow back on us. Maybe go have a chat with her.”

    Did I hallucinate when Colin Powell was hammered for a handful of official business emails from his AOL account?

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  10. Bob Thompson Member
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    Cosmik Phred (View Comment):

    We all get the disparate punishment angle with Hillary vs. DJT…

    One of things that always bugged me about the whole Hillary email server thing was how on earth was she allowed to do it in the first place?

    OK, she was the Secretary of State. No one at State is gonna question the private email server. She’s the boss. If we question her she’ll throw a lamp at us or something. Fine.

    So the White House receives emails without the “state.gov” domain name, just shrugs and says: “This is fine.” They don’t say: “This is weird, hey Barry, this could blow back on us. Maybe go have a chat with her.”

    Did I hallucinate when Colin Powell was hammered for a handful of official business emails from his AOL account?

    This is how one makes a RINO.

    All join in condemning criminal and other misbehavior when Republicans or those recognized as supporters of conservative or traditional behavior are caught and usually appropriate remedial action is taken. For Democrats acting criminally when Democrats are in power remedial action is frequently bypassed and RINO’s often join and behave as the Democrats except for talk. As this habit inures the RINO’s are even more accepting. The broader effects of this standard are far reaching in the full scheme of political events as we have been observing during the Trump era.

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