A Few Thoughts Regarding the FBI Raid of Donald Trump’s Home

 

I think this is a really, really big deal.  The party in power is using the power of the government they now control to destroy their political adversaries.  Oh my God.  This has my head spinning, a bit.  Here’s a few thoughts that have come to mind in the 10 minutes since I heard about the FBI raid:

  1. Oh my God.
  2. They didn’t raid the Clintons or the Bidens, despite their obvious criminal activities.  The Democrats in our government know that this is an obvious double standard, which will be quickly pointed out by many.  I find it terrifying that they don’t care.  They apparently feel that it no longer matters what anyone thinks.  As if elections don’t matter anymore.  I wonder if they’re right?
  3. This is an open threat to anyone who might consider criticizing a Democrat, anywhere.  We can destroy a President of the United States.  We can certainly destroy you.
  4. I suspect that popular support for Mr. Trump running for President again just jumped.  By a lot.
  5. I also suspect that the FBI knows that this will make Mr. Trump more popular and will broaden his support.  They wouldn’t do this, unless they thought they could control elections.
  6. It’s possible (although unlikely, I think) that Mr. Trump goaded the FBI into raiding his home somehow.  Appeared to withhold evidence, that he could later show that they already had, or something like that.  He may have wanted this showdown, to elevate his popular support.  Again, I doubt that, but I suppose it’s possible.
  7. I used to laugh at people who predicted that America would break up into two or more countries in the near future.  Then, I didn’t laugh, but I still thought that was insane.  Now, I see no other way to save something that is vaguely like America.  Lord help us.
  8. The problem is that that will never happen.  It’s just impossible, I think.  But once our government can select its own leaders, and persecute its political opponents, then that fundamentally changes the relationship between citizens and their government.  Once government has that much power, it cannot be changed except by force.  Which, again, I just cannot imagine happening.
  9. It will be interesting to see who defends Mr. Trump.  We’re about to learn a great deal about various Republican leaders.  I suspect that we won’t like what we learn.
  10. This is a really big deal.  Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God…
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  1. MarciN Member
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    I can’t even begin to process this. There really is a true Trump-obsessed psychosis. Starting with a former vice president of the United States describing Donald Trump as a threat to the republic. Reading the left’s reaction just now is mind-boggling. I helped a paranoid schizophrenic get through life, and I can say with absolute certainty that the anti-Trump movement, all the way up to Dick Cheney, is completely bonkers. The person I helped was sane compared to these people.

    How weird is it that on the day the IRS gets unprecedented power and bullets that this should happen.

    Biden has hurt so many people, and there are many more to be hurt with these IRS witch hunts that are about to begin. The people paying for everyone’s “healthcare” think nothing of driving a whole lot of people into suicide.

    To my knowledge, Trump has never hurt anyone.

    There’s only one tiny tiny sliver of light out there–DeSantis stood up to them and issued a powerful condemning statement against the raid.

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  2. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Wonder why they have not killed him yet?

    • #32
  3. Franco Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I can’t even begin to process this. There really is a true Trump-obsessed psychosis. Starting with a former vice president of the United States describing Donald Trump as a threat to the republic. Reading the left’s reaction just now is mind-boggling. I helped a paranoid schizophrenic get through life, and I can say with absolute certainty that the anti-Trump movement, all the way up to Dick Cheney, is completely bonkers. The person I helped was sane compared to these people.

    How weird is it that on the day the IRS gets unprecedented power and bullets that this should happen.

    Biden has hurt so many people, and there are many more to be hurt with these IRS witch hunts that are about to begin. The people paying for everyone’s “healthcare” think nothing of driving a whole lot of people into suicide.

    To my knowledge, Trump has never hurt anyone.

    There’s only one tiny tiny sliver of light out there–DeSantis stood up to them and issued a powerful condemning statement against the raid.

    Because this needs another read. Thanks.

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  4. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Dr. B, and you were one of the first to only, oh, so mildly hint that elections were to be a thing of the past. YES! They wouldn’t do this (and many other things) unless they knew elections were no longer a real thing.

    I think you are wrong on that. They may think elections are no longer a real thing, but I suspect they will find subverting them more difficult and more dangerous than they realize. There are too many guns in this country to blithely ignore the will of the people, however easy it looks inside blue bubbles.

    The Battle of Athens comes to mind. 

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  5. BDB Inactive
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Wonder why they have not killed him yet?

    Patience, grasshopper.

    • #35
  6. kedavis Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Wonder why they have not killed him yet?

    Because a martyr cannot be properly humiliated etc?

    • #36
  7. Percival Thatcher
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    Nohaaj (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):
    Given the shenanigans with the dossier, with the laptop, with the “Alfa Bank backchannel,” they face the likelihood that any “evidence” they uncover will be hooted at.

    Can I have some of what ever it is you are smoking? Because that has got to be some serious %hit! Happy Hallucinogens!

    Within the last year the FBI has been dinged twice for entrapment. Planting evidence is child’s play.

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  8. BDB Inactive
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    Hey look, it’s the Village People:

    • #38
  9. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    We are next.

    • #39
  10. James Lileks Contributor
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    As I said in another thread, I wouldn’t be surprised if the objective was everything in the safe, and oh hey look what we found. If CNN reports that Trump regularly disposed of documents he was supposed to keep, then the idea that the safe was some unholy Ark of the Covenant in which he kept his most personally incriminating documents seems absurd. Well, here’s the transcript of my conversation with Putin where we carve up Europe into spheres of influence; better put that in the really serious safe, where no one can get it. 

     

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  11. Django Member
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The Dems better not want a civil war. It won’t be like the last one. People can go down to the voter registration office and get a list of who is registered in the other party. It would not be a few redneck MAGAs against tanks and fighters like they think. It wouldn’t be two countries fighting each other like in our last civil war. It wouldn’t even be states against states, but people against people. These Democrats are insane. All those who voted for Trump must realize they feel the same about all of us. How long before they get our voter registration lists and send armed IRS agents to our houses. Beginning to think those IRS agents aren’t all auditors.

    The Dems crossed the redline when they fabricated a reason to impeach Trump the first time.

    I’ve said this here for some time. The next civil war won’t be two nation-states against each other. It’ll be Yugoslavia and the Troubles writ large.

    And if the military comes into play, well, all those tank drivers and aircraft pilots have families who will be seen as fair game. G-d help us.

    That is what it will come to if the military is used against American citizens. That or just roll over. 

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  12. Flicker Coolidge
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    Just for the feel good moment.  Dan Bongino on Fox News.  Doesn’t seem to embed.  The link should work.

    https://rumble.com/v1f9ss1-this-is-some-third-world-bullshot-dan-bongino-weighs-in-on-fbi-raid-on-trum.html

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Just for the feel good moment. Dan Bongino on Fox News. Doesn’t seem to embed. The link should work.

    https://rumble.com/v1f9ss1-this-is-some-third-world-bullshot-dan-bongino-weighs-in-on-fbi-raid-on-trum.html

    Most of Jesse Watters through Tucker’s guests were just outstanding analysis. The producers hit it out of the park with very little time to get ready. 

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  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    And this quote from Trump’s CPAC Introduction video, at 1:24

    “We’re a nation that has weaponized its law enforcement against the opposing political party, like we’ve never seen before, we’ve never seen anything like this.”

    https://rumble.com/embed/v1cifqn

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  15. Flicker Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Just for the feel good moment. Dan Bongino on Fox News. Doesn’t seem to embed. The link should work.

    https://rumble.com/v1f9ss1-this-is-some-third-world-bullshot-dan-bongino-weighs-in-on-fbi-raid-on-trum.html

    Most of Jesse Watters through Tucker’s guests were just outstanding analysis. The producers hit it out of the park with very little time to get ready.

    Do you have a link to the whole show?

    • #45
  16. EODmom Coolidge
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    Red Herring (View Comment):

    My husband heard they were after classified. When Trump was President, he could declassify whatever he wanted. I wonder what they were really after, perhaps just on excuse.

    They shut down the country over a seasonal flu to stop his election rallies. I expect this is the continuation of that tactic and escalation of the radicals’ campaign to stop him helping others campaign before they destroy him individually. And – what else have they done to damage any lawyer who would represent him? They want him off the field in the second half of the 2022 election action. Before they destroy him. 

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  17. Flicker Coolidge
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Dr. B, and you were one of the first to only, oh, so mildly hint that elections were to be a thing of the past. YES! They wouldn’t do this (and many other things) unless they knew elections were no longer a real thing.

    I think you are wrong on that. They may think elections are no longer a real thing, but I suspect they will find subverting them more difficult and more dangerous than they realize. There are too many guns in this country to blithely ignore the will of the people, however easy it looks inside blue bubbles.

    The Battle of Athens comes to mind.

    One big difference between now and then is that the federal government would not have used tanks on the GIs back then.  Now however, the police have APCs or MRAPs and such.  They are pretty close to being the military.

    • #47
  18. RufusRJones Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Just for the feel good moment. Dan Bongino on Fox News. Doesn’t seem to embed. The link should work.

    https://rumble.com/v1f9ss1-this-is-some-third-world-bullshot-dan-bongino-weighs-in-on-fbi-raid-on-trum.html

    Most of Jesse Watters through Tucker’s guests were just outstanding analysis. The producers hit it out of the park with very little time to get ready.

    The first half of Hugh Hewitt is even better I would say. Really clean legal and political analysis. Also some good stuff about the dumb inflation law.

    • #48
  19. RufusRJones Member
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    I haven’t heard it yet, but this is the type of thing that Red Eye Radio absolutely excels at. Free podcast of course. 

    • #49
  20. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Wonder why they have not killed him yet?

    Because he isn’t President.

    • #50
  21. Red Herring Coolidge
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    James Lileks (View Comment):

    As I said in another thread, I wouldn’t be surprised if the objective was everything in the safe, and oh hey look what we found. If CNN reports that Trump regularly disposed of documents he was supposed to keep, then the idea that the safe was some unholy Ark of the Covenant in which he kept his most personally incriminating documents seems absurd. Well, here’s the transcript of my conversation with Putin where we carve up Europe into spheres of influence; better put that in the really serious safe, where no one can get it.

     

    They pulled a Geraldo with the safe.😂

    • #51
  22. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Red Herring (View Comment):

    The Dems better not want a civil war. It won’t be like the last one. People can go down to the voter registration office and get a list of who is registered in the other party. It would not be a few redneck MAGAs against tanks and fighters like they think. It wouldn’t be two countries fighting each other like in our last civil war. It wouldn’t even be states against states, but people against people. These Democrats are insane. All those who voted for Trump must realize they feel the same about all of us. How long before they get our voter registration lists and send armed IRS agents to our houses. Beginning to think those IRS agents aren’t all auditors.

    The Dems crossed the redline when they fabricated a reason to impeach Trump the first time.

    I’ve said this here for some time. The next civil war won’t be two nation-states against each other. It’ll be Yugoslavia and the Troubles writ large.

    And if the military comes into play, well, all those tank drivers and aircraft pilots have families who will be seen as fair game. G-d help us.

    That is what it will come to if the military is used against American l citizens. That or just roll over.

    There is a reason West Point allowed southerners to leave …. You don’t populate your ranks with those who sympathize with your opponent . They can’t turn the military on the people they sympathize with. I bet recruitment will continue to decline. 

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  23. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Just for the feel good moment. Dan Bongino on Fox News. Doesn’t seem to embed. The link should work.

    https://rumble.com/v1f9ss1-this-is-some-third-world-bullshot-dan-bongino-weighs-in-on-fbi-raid-on-trum.html

    Where can I get some Trump yard signs? Perhaps my gun range has some left. 

    • #53
  24. Red Herring Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Dr. B, and you were one of the first to only, oh, so mildly hint that elections were to be a thing of the past. YES! They wouldn’t do this (and many other things) unless they knew elections were no longer a real thing.

    I think you are wrong on that. They may think elections are no longer a real thing, but I suspect they will find subverting them more difficult and more dangerous than they realize. There are too many guns in this country to blithely ignore the will of the people, however easy it looks inside blue bubbles.

    The Battle of Athens comes to mind.

    One big difference between now and then is that the federal government would not have used tanks on the GIs back then. Now however, the police have APCs or MRAPs and such. They are pretty close to being the military.

    I would let they would be there to support us.

    • #54
  25. GrannyDude Member
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    This will surely go down in history as one of the stupidest civil wars—hot or cold–human beings have ever managed to concoct.

    The difference between what ordinary blue Americans and ordinary red Americans want, need, think or care about is not vast. I know—I live in a purple-ish community, and we talk to each other.

    And yet,  communities, families, churches, towns, states, cities, a country, a constitution, broken to pieces over…nothing.  

    Maybe the First World War felt like this? All these leaders—charming, educated men who not only knew each other by name, they were cousins; they’d played together as children, hung out together as teens. “Nicky, I think we’ll just have to have a war,” the Kaiser wrote to the Tsar, and so they did. Ruining Europe, which was pretty good, all things considered. Pretty good, that is, compared to the looming alternative of Flanders and Verdun.  Not to mention the  Holodomor and the Holocaust. 

     

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  26. Red Herring Coolidge
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    With the swamp preying on us, flying the American flag won’t protect your house but make it a target once their street thugs think they have a green light.

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  27. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Seawriter (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Dr. B, and you were one of the first to only, oh, so mildly hint that elections were to be a thing of the past. YES! They wouldn’t do this (and many other things) unless they knew elections were no longer a real thing.

    I think you are wrong on that. They may think elections are no longer a real thing, but I suspect they will find subverting them more difficult and more dangerous than they realize. There are too many guns in this country to blithely ignore the will of the people, however easy it looks inside blue bubbles.

    The Battle of Athens comes to mind.

    One big difference between now and then is that the federal government would not have used tanks on the GIs back then. Now however, the police have APCs or MRAPs and such. They are pretty close to being the military.

    Of course it’s also easier to take them out then taking out a WWII tank was then. If it gets to that point…it will be very nasty. Of course, insurrections, revolutions, and civil wars are nasty and one of the beauties of the Liberal Democracy is that we can redress grievances peacefully and transfer power peacefully. When that ends, what comes out the other side will likely be worse than what we have now. It’s possible that it will be better, but unlikely. 

    • #57
  28. Stad Coolidge
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    Disarm the FBI.  Make them solely an information gathering organization.  When they have enough evidence, they turn it over to state authorities – not the DOJ – for action . . .

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  29. David C. Broussard Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Disarm the FBI. Make them solely an information gathering organization. When they have enough evidence, they turn it over to state authorities – not the DOJ – for action . . .

    We would be better off with the FBI and the DoJ eliminated. 

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  30. Bishop Wash Member
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    GrannyDude (View Comment):
    Maybe the First World War felt like this? All these leaders—charming, educated men who not only knew each other by name, they were cousins; they’d played together as children, hung out together as teens. “Nicky, I think we’ll just have to have a war,” the Kaiser wrote to the Tsar, and so they did.

    Jon posted a picture a few years ago of that group at a wedding or funeral and commented that in a few months they’d be fighting each other. 

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