I Suppose That I Missed the Gloating

 

Reports are that Trump-backed candidates were 15-0 in the Senate.  Now not all of them were the right sort of people, but we assume that a Trump-backed reprobate may be less ruined than a Trump-opposed and soon-to-be tarred and feathered reprobate.  Welllll, it’s a process, not a moment.

Red Wave inbound! (May be slow to load — stick with it)

I was looking for some more numbers I saw earlier today on the phone, and, well —  we did well.  In particular, Trump-backed candidates performed well.  So much for round three of “Trump is the kiss of death”.  Yeah, he can’t win, he should stay away, he’s poll-box-office poison… heard it before.  As I said a while back, the utilitarian Trump-Nopers with their “Trump is simply *bad* for the party’s prospects!” may be misjudging the American mood once again.

I’ll take a moment from my victory lap here to admit that I am not sanguine, but I think I’ve been keeping my doom pill under wraps pretty well these days, as the future is wide open, and we never know whether’s tomorrow’s harvest is more fertility or more fertilizer.  We do have excellent prospects, yet the GOP hosers are more than capable of hosing this up.  Maybe even by accident, although not necessarily.  Prophecy, prediction, warning, threat — there’s a spectrum.  Watch for the usual suspects (no, not people here on-site) to begin proving with geometric logic how this just means worse performance in the mid-terms, because now the cat is out of the bag or something.  My my my, the Democrats might wake.  We should hurry up and lose all of our elections so that never happens!

There may not be many reasons to be giddy, but we deserve a Mimosa to start the day this morning, and By Gum, two on Saturday morning.  Sunday?  Kari bar the door.

Oh, these are just primaries, or minor elections.  Yeah?  Where you at, NeverTrump?  Thought you were going to put us down once and for all, especially after the walls closed in on Trump what with the bombshell show trials, produced by real show people and everything.

I have a bottle of champagne which has gone unused since its purchase in November of 2020.  Might bust that out this weekend.  So now after the news has broken, but before the stunned Trump-Nopers regain their mathematical faculties (such as they are), I’m just savoring the sound of a pin dropping.  Tinnnng!

Thanks, Trump!

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates. 

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen. 

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    Seems like Gary has already stated, at least by implication, that he would not vote for DeSantis if Trump supports him.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    @Arahant

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Seems like Gary has already stated, at least by implication, that he would not vote for DeSantis if Trump supports him.

    If Trump endorsed all the Democrats, we would be an unstoppable force. Apparently.

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  4. Hank Rhody's Grandson Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary. No Democrats sparked an Insurrection in 2020. Trump did. And our Secretary of State Candidate even went to the Capitol on January 6th. He must lose.

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Arahant (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):
    Seems like Gary has already stated, at least by implication, that he would not vote for DeSantis if Trump supports him.

    If Trump endorsed all the Democrats, we would be an unstoppable force. Apparently.

    That would really only work on a few reverse-kneejerk people like Gary.

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  6. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Hank Rhody’s Grandson (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary. No Democrats sparked an Insurrection in 2020. Trump did. And our Secretary of State Candidate even went to the Capitol on January 6th. He must lose.

    I’ve needed that one for a LONG time!

    It’s almost as good as an “ignore” feature!

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  7. Bishop Wash Member
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    @BishopWash

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Hey, I resemble that meme.

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  8. Django Member
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    @Django

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    You mean like “Republicans for Katie Hobbs for Governor” in Arizona if Kari Lake wins? ;) We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Sounds like you have delusions of relevance. 

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  9. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I haven’t decided who to vote for in the Arizona Senate General Election, as I don’t want to empower either Trump or Schumer. 

    But in the state election races, where Trump endorsed candidates for Secretary of State and Attorney General (and likely Governor) won, the answer is simple.  I would rather have a Democrat win the general election than a Trump Republican.

    You’re incorrugible.  I’m certainly not going to argue.  That would not be productive.  Thanks for stopping by.

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  10. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    I noticed that as well and reached the same conclusion.

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  11. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    There does seem to be an unbridled, destructive rapaciousness to the NTers.  It seems as if people who were already predisposed to do so were given permission to focus all their jealousies, frustrations, anger and destructiveness on one thing.  And it grows the more it is allowed and encouraged.

    But it also now seems that not having been able to humiliate and destroy Trump, they are casting about wider to find symbolic substitutions for him which are weaker and more vulnerable.

    I’m referring to the followers, not the paid professionals.  They’re irrational and destructive.  I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    So, yes, if Trump were ever to endorse DeSantis, even if DeSantis didn’t utter a word of encouragement or thanks, DeSantis would have to be destroyed as well.

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  12. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Gary, I’ll just say that you are really inviting the unpleasant remarks that you are likely to receive.  I would be hard-pressed to make my usual “uh, hey guys…” shirt-tugs about piling onto you under posts of mine, based on what you have written plainly, and plainly implied here.  This one’s on you to a degree that few others are.

    I will assume that you are just mildly unhinged by your mild grief at the unwelcome results this time around.

    You may be interested in the comments (the whole six pages) mentioned by Franco accompanying the post I linked with “not necessarily” up in my OP.  That was 2015, I believe.  Fascinating to me anyway.

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  13. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    I think things are getting unknown. It seems a shake up is going on. 

     

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  14. Django Member
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    @Django

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    There does seem to be an unbridled, destructive rapaciousness to the NTers. It seems as if people who were already predisposed to do so were given permission to focus all their jealousies, frustrations, anger and destructiveness on one thing. And it grows the more it is allowed and encouraged.

    But it also now seems that not having been able to humiliate and destroy Trump, they are casting about wider to find symbolic substitutions for him which are weaker and more vulnerable.

    I’m referring to the followers, not the paid professionals. They’re irrational and destructive. I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    So, yes, if Trump were ever to endorse DeSantis, even if DeSantis didn’t utter a word of encouragement or thanks, DeSantis would have to be destroyed as well.

    DeSantis made an interesting move today: DeSantis Suspends Woke, Soros-Backed State Attorney (townhall.com)

    Should make him more popular.

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  15. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Because electing Joe Biden has worked out so very well for the United States.

    “But Trump protested the outcome of the election!

    Excuse me.  Trump filed 61 lawsuits.  About half were dismissed due to lack of standing.  About a sixth were dismissed by a motion by the Trump folks.  About a third went to trial and were dismissed by the Court.  

    But that was not enough.  The January 6th Select Committee has provided clear and convincing evidence that Trump was (a) the Creator of the Big Lie, (b) the Co-creator (or worse) of the Insurrection before it started and (c) then a Traitor to the nation as he disobeyed his oath of office to faithfully exercise the duties of this office during the 187 minutes of the riot at the Capitol (i) where officers were beaten by armed rioters to an inch of their lives, (ii) Congress had to flee for their safety, and (iii) Vice President Pence’s protective detail called their families due to the strong possibility that they could die.

    Therefore I had to vote against him two months before that happened!” But if Trump had won, January 6th never would have happened, the country would be better off, and Liz Cheney would be cruising to re-election.

    If Trump had won, then Trump would have won.  But he didn’t.

    The country would be in a much better place if Trump had won. Even Never-Trump would be better off because the politicians they stan for (Meijer, Cheney) would still be in Congress.

    So, objectively speaking, people who spite-voted against Trump were putting their spite over their country.

    So, keep holding that scalpel to your nose, Never-Trump-And-Also-Never-Anybody-Who-Doesn’t-Hate-Trumpers.

    Someday soon I hope we have the restoration of the Party of Reagan.

     

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  16. BDB Coolidge
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    @BDB

    Flicker (View Comment):
    I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    This reminds of of the reliably (but not always) awful CJSCOTUS Roberts who laid the Constitution in a puddle to preserve the dignity of the court’s garment.

    Or Bridge Over the River MAGA.

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  17. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary.

    Even if it kills us all? Your track record of accomplishment is not so great, Gary. The Afghanistan pull out? The Ukraine-Russia War. Inflation. Falling real wages. It’s all on you. Every death in Ukraine is on your soul. That would not have happened if not for NT votes. Look in the eyes of the surviving relatives of the dead and be proud. When the war starts with China, you can be proud of that, too. When the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, stand up and say, “I did that!” Elections matter. Votes have consequences.

    Biden is destroying the economy.  But the economy can recover.  See how Reagan rescued us from Jimmy Carter’s destruction of the economy.

    Trump is seeking to usurp the Constitution.  That last happened in 1861.  Let’s not do that again.

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    The Bulwark has turned on Pete Meijer. (“You weren’t anti-Trump enough and your Democrat friends were right to run ads supporting your pro-Trump opponent!”)

    I have to make some popcorn.

    If you are going to quote the Bulwark, then quote the Bulwark, not somebody else talking about the Bulwark.  Here is the Bulwark article, https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/what-are-you-doing-to-protect-good

    • #78
  19. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    Oh Bryan.  I have repeatedly said that I would support DeSantis for President.  I have even given him money.  Have you?

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  20. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    Seems like Gary has already stated, at least by implication, that he would not vote for DeSantis if Trump supports him.

    Oh kedavis!  I have repeatedly said that I would support DeSantis.  I have even given the Committee seeking to draft him money.  Have you?

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  21. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Django (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    There does seem to be an unbridled, destructive rapaciousness to the NTers. It seems as if people who were already predisposed to do so were given permission to focus all their jealousies, frustrations, anger and destructiveness on one thing. And it grows the more it is allowed and encouraged.

    But it also now seems that not having been able to humiliate and destroy Trump, they are casting about wider to find symbolic substitutions for him which are weaker and more vulnerable.

    I’m referring to the followers, not the paid professionals. They’re irrational and destructive. I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    So, yes, if Trump were ever to endorse DeSantis, even if DeSantis didn’t utter a word of encouragement or thanks, DeSantis would have to be destroyed as well.

    DeSantis made an interesting move today: DeSantis Suspends Woke, Soros-Backed State Attorney (townhall.com)

    Should make him more popular.

    Popular enough for this rousing show of unequivocal support.  I will quote the speech in it’s entirety.  “Good for DeSantis.”

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  22. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen. 

    It already happened with Glen Youngkin. The entire Bulwark turned on him for not denouncing Trump.

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    The Bulwark has turned on Pete Meijer. (“You weren’t anti-Trump enough and your Democrat friends were right to run ads supporting your pro-Trump opponent!”)

    I have to make some popcorn.

    If you are going to quote the Bulwark, then quote the Bulwark, not somebody else talking about the Bulwark. Here is the Bulwark article, https://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/what-are-you-doing-to-protect-good

    Great, now you can go back to quoting what Liz Cheney and others claim Trump said and did, rather than what he actually said and did.

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  24. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    You mean like “Republicans for Katie Hobbs for Governor” in Arizona if Kari Lake wins? ;) We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Sounds like you have delusions of relevance.

    I have already dealt with this in my review of “LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election.”

    I said, 

    The eight authors include three former federal judges, a former Solicitor General, and two former Senators.  All are very well known conservatives.  They undertook to examine every claim of fraud or misconduct put forward by former President Trump.  They flatly state “Our conclusion is unequivocal: Joe Biden was the choice of a majority of the Electors, who themselves were the choice of the majority of voters in their states.” Aside from the pandemic and economic downturn, they note that there was “a small but statistically significant number [Edit. of Republicans] willing to vote for other Republican candidates on the ballot but not for President Trump” which is why Trump “fell short, not a fraudulent election.”  This point was made by Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson who was not aware that he was been tape recorded, and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.  

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    There does seem to be an unbridled, destructive rapaciousness to the NTers. It seems as if people who were already predisposed to do so were given permission to focus all their jealousies, frustrations, anger and destructiveness on one thing. And it grows the more it is allowed and encouraged.

    But it also now seems that not having been able to humiliate and destroy Trump, they are casting about wider to find symbolic substitutions for him which are weaker and more vulnerable.

    I’m referring to the followers, not the paid professionals. They’re irrational and destructive. I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    So, yes, if Trump were ever to endorse DeSantis, even if DeSantis didn’t utter a word of encouragement or thanks, DeSantis would have to be destroyed as well.

    I would vote for DeSantis.  I have given money to the Committee seeking to draft him.  Have you?

     

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Biden is destroying the economy.  But the economy can recover.  See how Reagan rescued us from Jimmy Carter’s destruction of the economy.

    What an obnoxious justification. “Destroying the economy” is a nice abstraction to take the focus away from what’s really happening: Biden is destroying THE CITIZENS. The WORKING CLASS. The MIDDLE CLASS. The POOR. But you have never given a crap about the people harmed by Biden’s policies.

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  27. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Django (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    It is interesting to me how goal posts can move. I have read some anti Trump types say they would vote for anyone who was not Trump later say they won’t vote for Trump approved candidates.

    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    There does seem to be an unbridled, destructive rapaciousness to the NTers. It seems as if people who were already predisposed to do so were given permission to focus all their jealousies, frustrations, anger and destructiveness on one thing. And it grows the more it is allowed and encouraged.

    But it also now seems that not having been able to humiliate and destroy Trump, they are casting about wider to find symbolic substitutions for him which are weaker and more vulnerable.

    I’m referring to the followers, not the paid professionals. They’re irrational and destructive. I mean, they’re saying that they would rather have Biden, who is leaving nothing left undestroyed, than the object of their monomaniacal hatred.

    So, yes, if Trump were ever to endorse DeSantis, even if DeSantis didn’t utter a word of encouragement or thanks, DeSantis would have to be destroyed as well.

    DeSantis made an interesting move today: DeSantis Suspends Woke, Soros-Backed State Attorney (townhall.com)

    Should make him more popular.

    I think that that is great.  Go Ron DeSantis!

    • #87
  28. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    It already happened with Glen Youngkin. The entire Bulwark turned on him for not denouncing Trump.

    While I read The Bulwark, I am not as “pure” as they are.  I am happy that Glen Youngkin won.

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):
    I fully expect, if at some point DeSantis was running and Trump supported him whole hog, that suddenly he would be unacceptable. They might deny it now, but it will happen.

    It already happened with Glen Youngkin. The entire Bulwark turned on him for not denouncing Trump.

    While I read The Bulwark, I am not as “pure” as they are. I am happy that Glen Youngkin won.

    I doubt they parse your financial support that closely.

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  30. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    You mean like “Republicans for Katie Hobbs for Governor” in Arizona if Kari Lake wins? ;) We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Sounds like you have delusions of relevance.

    I have already dealt with this in my review of “LOST, NOT STOLEN: The Conservative Case that Trump Lost and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election.”

    I said,

    The eight authors include three former federal judges, a former Solicitor General, and two former Senators. All are very well known conservatives. They undertook to examine every claim of fraud or misconduct put forward by former President Trump. They flatly state “Our conclusion is unequivocal: Joe Biden was the choice of a majority of the Electors, who themselves were the choice of the majority of voters in their states.” Aside from the pandemic and economic downturn, they note that there was “a small but statistically significant number [Edit. of Republicans] willing to vote for other Republican candidates on the ballot but not for President Trump” which is why Trump “fell short, not a fraudulent election.” This point was made by Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson who was not aware that he was been tape recorded, and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

    Who cares? If the country is stupid enough to vote for Biden, it will get what it deserves, and is getting it now. If you want to take a large share the blame, so be it. If you are treated with contempt by those with the brains not to have voted for Biden, you earned it. 

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