I Suppose That I Missed the Gloating

 

Reports are that Trump-backed candidates were 15-0 in the Senate.  Now not all of them were the right sort of people, but we assume that a Trump-backed reprobate may be less ruined than a Trump-opposed and soon-to-be tarred and feathered reprobate.  Welllll, it’s a process, not a moment.

Red Wave inbound! (May be slow to load — stick with it)

I was looking for some more numbers I saw earlier today on the phone, and, well —  we did well.  In particular, Trump-backed candidates performed well.  So much for round three of “Trump is the kiss of death”.  Yeah, he can’t win, he should stay away, he’s poll-box-office poison… heard it before.  As I said a while back, the utilitarian Trump-Nopers with their “Trump is simply *bad* for the party’s prospects!” may be misjudging the American mood once again.

I’ll take a moment from my victory lap here to admit that I am not sanguine, but I think I’ve been keeping my doom pill under wraps pretty well these days, as the future is wide open, and we never know whether’s tomorrow’s harvest is more fertility or more fertilizer.  We do have excellent prospects, yet the GOP hosers are more than capable of hosing this up.  Maybe even by accident, although not necessarily.  Prophecy, prediction, warning, threat — there’s a spectrum.  Watch for the usual suspects (no, not people here on-site) to begin proving with geometric logic how this just means worse performance in the mid-terms, because now the cat is out of the bag or something.  My my my, the Democrats might wake.  We should hurry up and lose all of our elections so that never happens!

There may not be many reasons to be giddy, but we deserve a Mimosa to start the day this morning, and By Gum, two on Saturday morning.  Sunday?  Kari bar the door.

Oh, these are just primaries, or minor elections.  Yeah?  Where you at, NeverTrump?  Thought you were going to put us down once and for all, especially after the walls closed in on Trump what with the bombshell show trials, produced by real show people and everything.

I have a bottle of champagne which has gone unused since its purchase in November of 2020.  Might bust that out this weekend.  So now after the news has broken, but before the stunned Trump-Nopers regain their mathematical faculties (such as they are), I’m just savoring the sound of a pin dropping.  Tinnnng!

Thanks, Trump!

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  1. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Kevin Schulte (View Comment):
    I am skeptical over Schmidt. Will he be another Blunt ? If you start seeing him over McConnell’s shoulder at every presser like M ‘s other insiders. We will have the answers to that question.

    You have to suspect at least two-thirds of Republicans running as hard-a^^ conservatives are actually undercover moderates. It will hurt less when they betray you.

     

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  2. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    cdor (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Honestly, I had a problem with the way Trump handled this. There can be only one winner. The way I see it, Trump hedged his bet because he didn’t want to tarnish his record by making the losing choice.

    I think he just enjoyed being a prankster by only saying “Eric,” knowing it would drive people nuts.

    This is too important to play games. To tell a good joke or make a good prank, one’s timing needs to be perfect. Honestly, this pissed me off.

    That’s fine. I laughed about it. I suppose some people think he’s always playing 4-D Chess. I think he’s just having the time of his life.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    You have to suspect at least two-thirds of Republicans running as hard-a^^ conservatives are actually undercover moderates.

    I assume that at least two-thirds of Republicans in the House and Senate are actually undercover Dems.

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  4. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.” 

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  5. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):
    I think he just enjoyed being a prankster by only saying “Eric,” knowing it would drive people nuts.

    That’s exactly how I saw it. Trump has moments when he is a cheeky fellow. People who are inclined to see everything as a political calculation discount the possibility that sometimes a politician will say things just for the hell of it.

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  6. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    Yes. It kind of reveals the backstabbing nature of the GOPe, doesn’t it?

    And then think of the 2016 GOP primary, when every non-Trump candidate promised to support whoever got the nomination. And when Trump got the nomination, how many of them kept that promise? One?

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  7. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Also, “True Conservative” Tim Scott endorsed DIABLO Lisa Murkowski yesterday.

    So what does the L and O stand for? I got Democrat In All But…

    Apparently, “Democrat in All But Label Only.” I’ve read it once before. Seems kind of forced.

    I have trouble with all these new acronymical labels. I still can’t remember what AWFL means. Or TERF. Or BRG. (Yet I can kinda laugh at it.)

    But of course I still think BLM is that usurping Bureau of Land Management, and CRT means cathode ray tube.

    TERF is Trans Exclusive Radical Feminist. BRG is new to me.

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  8. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Stina (View Comment):
    BRG is new to me.

    I’m sticking with British Racing Green.

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  9. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Or, ballistic rail gun. That would work.

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  10. The Cynthonian Member
    The Cynthonian
    @TheCynthonian

    Just remember that every politician will disappoint you in some way, sooner or later.   I didn’t agree with every single decision or policy of Reagan or Trump, but the ratio was a lot higher with those two than other presidents in my adult lifetime.

    I just got my first disappointment with Sen. Scott, who I had heretofore considered very solid.   Lisa Murkowski?   What was he thinking?   If he didn’t think he could endorse against her, then better to stay out of it.

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  11. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    And send us your paystubs with your next check, freeloader.

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  12. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Franco (View Comment):
    Reading the comments on the linked post from 2015 was a gas! 

    Franco, you were en fuego!

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  13. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    You have only looked at the Primary elections, and not the General Elections, which are the important elections.  

    Trump nominated candidates get a 10+% boost in the primaries, and usually are winning primaries.  However will they win general elections where the “Mark of Trump” is seen by some as akin to the “Mark of the Beast” by that significant portion of the electorate which is Republican but refuses to vote or anything Trump?  That group of voters flipped Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, while leaving Republican legislatures in those states.

    I haven’t decided who to vote for in the Arizona Senate General Election, as I don’t want to empower either Trump or Schumer. 

    But in the state election races, where Trump endorsed candidates for Secretary of State and Attorney General (and likely Governor) won, the answer is simple.  I would rather have a Democrat win the general election than a Trump Republican.  After 4 years of a Democrat, Republican Primary voters will be less likely to nominate a Trump endorsed candidate over a Reagan Republican.  As I have said already, I will vote for any Republican (other than a Trump Endorsed Republican) over any Democrat over any Trump Endorsed Republican.  For example, I am voting for Republican Kimberly Yee for State Treasurer, as she was not endorsed by Trump.

    I will be contacting the Democrats for “Republicans for Hobbs for Governor” signs if Kari Lake wins the Republican Primary, but I will be posting “Karrin Taylor Robson for Governor” signs if she wins the Republican Primary.  You can huff and puff all you want, but these damn ticket-splitters may well throw elections to Democrats due to their antipathy to the Trump Insurrectionists.  (The Republican Candidate for Secretary of State was literally at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.  No way will I vote for him, ever.)

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  14. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    You mean like “Republicans for Katie Hobbs for Governor” in Arizona if Kari Lake wins?  ;)  We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

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  15. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Franco (View Comment):
    These idiots nominated John McCain and then Mitt Romney, who have since been uncovered as frauds and poseurs. Then, a large faction of GOP insiders wanted to push Jeb Bush on us – as though he could win. LOL. As though he just happened to have the same last name by coincidence.

    What really galls people is that when an establishment drone is nominated over an upstart conservative, the party leadership puts the pressure on. “He may not have been your first choice, but for the good of the party and to defeat the Democrat menace, you must put your feelings aside and support him. After all, someone who will vote with you 50% of the time is still better than someone who will vote against you 100% of the time. Also, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan.”

    It’s entirely the opposite when the party establishment doesn’t get its way and the upstart conservative gets nominated. “This candidate is unacceptable and will drive voters away from the party. Please join our new ‘Republicans Against the Upstart Conservative’ group. Also, consider voting for the independent who is running as a spoiler.”

    Yes. It kind of reveals the backstabbing nature of the GOPe, doesn’t it?

    And then think of the 2016 GOP primary, when every non-Trump candidate promised to support whoever got the nomination. And when Trump got the nomination, how many of them kept that promise? One?

    Candidates may have promised that.  I didn’t.

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  16. Kevin Schulte Member
    Kevin Schulte
    @KevinSchulte

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    Just remember that every politician will disappoint you in some way, sooner or later. I didn’t agree with every single decision or policy of Reagan or Trump, but the ratio was a lot higher with those two than other presidents in my adult lifetime.

    I just got my first disappointment with Sen. Scott, who I had heretofore considered very solid. Lisa Murkowski? What was he thinking? If he didn’t think he could endorse against her, then better to stay out of it.

    Agreed to a degree. However when you endorse a candidate that has been a pox to the base forever. Well , it’s time to kick Scott to the curb. His priorities are as_ backwards. 

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    As I said in another post, Gary: be honest with yourself if you won’t be honest with us. You were always going to vote Democrat. You just need an excuse to justify it. And you’ll work hard to find one.

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  18. Percival Thatcher
    Percival
    @Percival

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Candidates may have promised that.  I didn’t.

    You hold candidates to a standard of honor that you yourself eschew?

    Noted.

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  19. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    As I said in another post, Gary: be honest with yourself if you won’t be honest with us. You were always going to vote Democrat. You just need an excuse to justify it. And you’ll work hard to find one.

    Nope.  I had committed to vote for any Republican (except Trump Endorsed Republicans) over any Democrat.

    I will be voting for Republican Kimberly Yee for State Treasurer, as she was not endorsed by Trump.

    I would have happily voted for Karrin Taylor Robson for Governor over Democrat Katie Hobbs.  But if Kari Lake pulls out the win, I am voting for Katie Hobbs over Trump-endorsed Kari Lake, and I will be joining “Republicans for Katie Hobbs.”

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  20. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    Stina (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Also, “True Conservative” Tim Scott endorsed DIABLO Lisa Murkowski yesterday.

    So what does the L and O stand for? I got Democrat In All But…

    Apparently, “Democrat in All But Label Only.” I’ve read it once before. Seems kind of forced.

    I have trouble with all these new acronymical labels. I still can’t remember what AWFL means. Or TERF. Or BRG. (Yet I can kinda laugh at it.)

    But of course I still think BLM is that usurping Bureau of Land Management, and CRT means cathode ray tube.

    TERF is Trans Exclusive Radical Feminist. BRG is new to me.

    Thanks.  I never would have guessed that.  And now I remember why I don’t remember it.

    BRG, as far as I’ve been able to determine, is like “Let’s go, Brandon!”  Someone did a tee shirt or got a tattoo or something in honor of RBG (Ruth Bader Ginsberg) but misspelled it as BRG.  It stuck as a joke.  I guess maybe only with the genocide crowd, but I haven’t invested my time in reading all the reddit comments which use the initials.

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  21. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

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  22. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik (View Comment):

    As I said in another post, Gary: be honest with yourself if you won’t be honest with us. You were always going to vote Democrat. You just need an excuse to justify it. And you’ll work hard to find one.

    Nope. I had committed to vote for any Republican except Trump Endorsed Republicans over any Democrat. I will be voting for Republican Kimberly Yee for State Treasurer, as she was not endorsed by Trump.

    I would have happily voted for Karrin Taylor Robson for Governor over Democrat Katie Hobbs. But if Kari Lake pulls out the win, I am voting for Katie Hobbs over Trump-endorsed Kari Lake.

    Nobody with any sense believes this. Yours is a solid D vote. Yesterday, today and forever.

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  23. DrewInWisconsin, Oik Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Which face?

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  24. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary.  No Democrats sparked an Insurrection in 2020.  Trump did.  And our Secretary of State Candidate even went to the Capitol on January 6th.  He must lose.

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  25. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We flipped Arizona in the 2020 election by voting against Trump, we will do it again for a Trump clone.

    Cutting off your nose to spite your face, Gary.

    Because electing Joe Biden has worked out so very well for the United States.

    “But Trump protested the outcome of the election! Therefore I had to vote against him two months before that happened!”  But if Trump had won, January 6th never would have happened, the country would be better off, and Liz Cheney would be cruising to re-election.

    The country would be in a much better place if Trump had won. Even Never-Trump would be better off because the politicians they stan for (Meijer, Cheney) would still be in Congress.

    So, objectively speaking, people who spite-voted against Trump were putting their spite over their country.

    So, keep holding that scalpel to your nose, Never-Trump-And-Also-Never-Anybody-Who-Doesn’t-Hate-Trumpers.

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  26. Arahant Member
    Arahant
    @Arahant

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary.

    Even if it kills us all? Your track record of accomplishment is not so great, Gary. The Afghanistan pull out? The Ukraine-Russia War. Inflation. Falling real wages. It’s all on you. Every death in Ukraine is on your soul. That would not have happened if not for NT votes. Look in the eyes of the surviving relatives of the dead and be proud. When the war starts with China, you can be proud of that, too. When the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, stand up and say, “I did that!” Elections matter. Votes have consequences.

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  27. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    The Bulwark has turned on Pete Meijer. (“You weren’t anti-Trump enough and your Democrat friends were right to run ads supporting your pro-Trump opponent!”)

    I have to make some popcorn.

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  28. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary.

    Even if it kills us all? Your track record of accomplishment is not so great, Gary. The Afghanistan pull out? The Ukraine-Russia War. Inflation. Falling real wages. It’s all on you. Every death in Ukraine is on your soul. That would not have happened if not for NT votes. Look in the eyes of the surviving relatives of the dead and be proud. When the war starts with China, you can be proud of that, too. When the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, stand up and say, “I did that!” Elections matter. Votes have consequences.

    At least here on Ricochet, we need some “I Did That!” stickers with Gary’s face, not Biden’s.

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  29. aardo vozz Member
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    @aardovozz

    I Walton (View Comment):

    I don’t know by how much Trump or a Trump backed candidate would win an honest election, but there will not be an honest election so the question is how many votes can the democrats fabricate. The election system remains the same where fabrication is easy but now we don’t have the White House the cabinet or the senior bureaucratic heads. The last election was declared honest and all senior bureaucrats and most the staff is as rotten as the Democrat leadership. So the issue is what do we do if we fail to win control of Congress? Congress is more difficult to steal than the White House so there is some hope but we mustn’t forget that we’re dealing with totalitarians sitting atop a Bunch of fools.

    Insufficiently cynical.😬

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  30. Flicker Coolidge
    Flicker
    @Flicker

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Ridding the party of the malign influence of Trump is primary.

    Even if it kills us all? Your track record of accomplishment is not so great, Gary. The Afghanistan pull out? The Ukraine-Russia War. Inflation. Falling real wages. It’s all on you. Every death in Ukraine is on your soul. That would not have happened if not for NT votes. Look in the eyes of the surviving relatives of the dead and be proud. When the war starts with China, you can be proud of that, too. When the dollar is no longer the reserve currency, stand up and say, “I did that!” Elections matter. Votes have consequences.

    At least here on Ricochet, we need some “I Did That!” stickers with Gary’s face, not Biden’s.

    No.  I confess.  We need a snooze block button.

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