Blacks Getting Armed!

 

Here in Baltimore, I belong to (and attend) a very nice range.  When they opened, the clientele was maybe 30% black. From Covid until this spring, it grew to perhaps 60% black.

But now, after the Supreme Court ruling? The place is packed, and packed with black people getting trained so they can carry legally, and protect themselves, their loved ones, and their property. Last night, staff excepting, #5 and I were the only white faces there. Fantastic!

I have long said that the limitations on getting a Concealed-Carry-Wear permit in Maryland were racist because only people like me could get through the hoops, while black people were largely barred. I am delighted to report that, thanks to the Supreme Court, legal gun ownership (and concealed carry) is skyrocketing in Baltimore and Maryland, and I expect to see crime drop correspondingly in the months and years to come.

The more empowered black people actually are, by virtue of being able to defend themselves, the better the health of our nation.

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  1. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    A lot of blacks have been armed in Baltimore for a long time.  Just not the ones who get permits and practice at ranges.

    Thank goodness everyone else is arming up now.  Black Lives Matter should be promoting concealed carry permits & firearms training, to protect black lives.  They may have already started that campaign, but I haven’t seen it… 

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  2. jmelvin Member
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    That is fantastic news!  I have long commented that states that have strict “may-issue” permitting restrictions on who may carry sidearms broadly necked it down to a population of carriers that are a combo of three things:  White, wealthy, and/or well-connected.  This seems to bear that out.

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  3. The Reticulator Member
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    Speaking of diversity, you should also know that there is a Socialist Rifle Association.  I happen to know a very active member. 

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  4. Percival Thatcher
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    But iWe, you are supposed to be panicked – panicked – that black people are buying guns!

    You’re not?

    Me neither.

    Of the many inhuman outrages of this present year, the only case where the proposed lynching did not occur, was where the men armed themselves in Jacksonville, Fla., and Paducah, Ky, and prevented it. The only times an Afro-American who was assaulted got away has been when he had a gun and used it in self-defense.

    The lesson this teaches and which every Afro-American should ponder well, is that a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home, and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give*. When the white man who is always the aggressor knows he runs as great risk of biting the dust every time his Afro-American victim does, he will have greater respect for Afro-American life. The more the Afro-American yields and cringes and begs, the more he has to do so, the more he is insulted, outraged and lynched.

    – Ida B. Wells, “Southern Horrors: Lynch Law in All Its Phases”, 1892


    * Or can’t give, because knuckleheads have defunded the police.

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  5. John Park Member
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    In his concurring opinion in Bruen, Justice Alito pointed to friend of the court briefs filed by “members of groups who feel they have special reasons to fear attacks.” Those briefs were filed by Asian Pacific Gun Owners Association, DC Project Foundation, Independent Women’s Law Center, and National African American Gun  Association, Inc. The Second Amendment protects those folks too.

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  6. Illiniguy Member
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    Last December, my son was transferred from his job here in Illinois to Virginia, and as I was looking for a suitable Christmas gift, I came across this range only 30 minutes from his house. He was thrilled.

    My wife and I went out to visit him last week and we went out for a tour. Impressive. If you’re a shooting enthusiast out in that neck of the woods, they’re welcoming new members. 

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  7. Red Herring Coolidge
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    SC

    https://www.dnr.sc.gov/shooting/index.html

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  8. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    I often listen to Sonnie Johnson on SiriusXM.  She is a black conservative and I enjoy her perspective, which is often not what you might expect to hear.  She has (or her guests have) brought up a few interesting points.

    Quite a few states, including Maryland, have  Duty to Retreat laws…so if someone is breaking in your front door, the law requires you to run to the back of the house (or anyplace you can retreat) before you defend yourself, your family, or your property.

    In Illinois, the FOID requirement can snare the law abiding.  One guest talked about people on the south side who go to Indiana and purchase a firearm without an FOID card, because they don’t know they are supposed to have an FOID to possess a firearm, and an Indiana dealer isn’t going to care.  The scandal of the past few years has been the backlog of the State Police in approving FOID cards–it’s supposed to be 30 days, mine took three months.  Of course, they approved one for a young man in Highland Park….  Another rule to follow, another layer of “protection” doesn’t necessarily do any good.  The IL courts have been tossing the constitutionality of the FOID around for a couple of years.

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  9. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    John Lott has contended for decades that gun control has the most devastating effect on urban minorities.

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  10. iWe Coolidge
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):
    Quite a few states, including Maryland, have  Duty to Retreat laws…so if someone is breaking in your front door, the law requires you to run to the back of the house (or anyplace you can retreat) before you defend yourself, your family, or your property.

    This is NOT correct. link

    Maryland’s Duty to Retreat law requires people who are not in their homes to retreat or avoid danger before using deadly force to defend themselves. 

    link

    In Maryland deadly force is only legal when defending one’s self from the immediate threat of serious injury or death. There is no duty to retreat inside one’s home.

     

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  11. colleenb Member
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    My husband went to a gun show in northern Virginia on Saturday and said there were quite a few blacks at the show – more than had been there in previous years.

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  12. colleenb Member
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    Black Lives with Guns Certainly Do Matter.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    A lot of blacks have been armed in Baltimore for a long time. Just not the ones who get permits and practice at ranges.

    Thank goodness everyone else is arming up now. Black Lives Matter should be promoting concealed carry permits & firearms training, to protect black lives. They may have already started that campaign, but I haven’t seen it…

    I dunno, seems like it might undermine their narrative, considering that most black people are killed by other black people.

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  14. BDB Coolidge
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    Yup.  Arm the blacks.  Arm the gays. Arm everybody.  

    I had a great time at the range with a friend a couple of months ago, wound up spending significant time teaching one lady.  Other people thought I worked there and started coming to me for help with jams.  It was the most rewarding range time I’ve ever had.  Talk about polite, good-natured, honest people.  

    My friend and I were the only white folks shooting.  

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  15. CACrabtree Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Speaking of diversity, you should also know that there is a Socialist Rifle Association. I happen to know a very active member.

    That’s interesting.  Why do Socialists need guns?  They already have the government.

    Just sayin’…

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    CACrabtree (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Speaking of diversity, you should also know that there is a Socialist Rifle Association. I happen to know a very active member.

    That’s interesting. Why do Socialists need guns? They already have the government.

    Just sayin’…

    The government didn’t used to be on their side.  But times change.

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  17. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    A lot of blacks have been armed in Baltimore for a long time. Just not the ones who get permits and practice at ranges.

    Thank goodness everyone else is arming up now. Black Lives Matter should be promoting concealed carry permits & firearms training, to protect black lives. They may have already started that campaign, but I haven’t seen it…

    I dunno, seems like it might undermine their narrative, considering that most black people are killed by other black people.

    Yeah, that was my point.  I apparently didn’t lay the sarcasm on deep enough.  These days, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to write satire… 

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  18. Front Seat Cat Member
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    I am amazed that your post got on the Main Feed.  While the 2nd Amendment should be protected and people who own weapons should know how to use them properly, I find your post and headlines disturbing.  Law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves – that is a right under American law.  However, there seems to be a narrative being promoted among minority men that white people, or law enforcement, or quite frankly conservatives are a threat.  This seems to be a license to create mayhem.

    We just moved from the FL Panhandle to central Florida a few months ago.  We sold our house and had a spring break experience in PCB in March at our rental house.  It was shocking.  African Americans (they said from GA and AL) brought many guns including assault rifles to the beaches. There was a shooting. The women were twerking and jerking, imitating vulgarity from the backs of pick up trucks wearing next to nothing.  They were disrupting roads, gas stations and ran thru Walmart pulling merchandise off the shelves.  The stores had to be closed, including the beach establishments that had weddings planned and other events. All night and for several nights there were constant sirens and police and news helicopters overhead!

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-ne-ap-spring-break-florida-arrests-20220329-4q3xpszocfhutf7thwf7zjv75e-story.html

    These were not spring breakers or college kids.  I had no idea.  My sister in law, a home healthcare nurse waited in a long line for an hour to get gas because they were bumping and grinding in the gas station stalls.  I saw it myself.  The African American community is not healthy. They are being sold a pack of distortion and lies. Arming up is not the answer.  Pitting races against each other is not right. It’s progressive propaganda and we’ve been witnessing it throughout major cities since George Floyd.  This victim mentality started way before that.  I blame Obama, who had a great opportunity to lift up minority communities in positive ways.  Look at our inner cities – his Chicago and other Democratic led cities.  It didn’t work.  More blacks are killed in gang-related shootings.

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  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Moderator Note:

    I assume that your comment was merely poorly phrased. Feel free to restate it in a manner that doesn’t suggest you are encouraging blacks to shoot each other so that others won’t have to.

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I am amazed that your post got on the Main Feed. While the 2nd Amendment should be protected and people who own weapons should know how to use them properly, I find your post and headlines disturbing. Law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves – that is a right under American law. However, there seems to be a narrative being promoted among minority men that white people, or law enforcement, or quite frankly conservatives are a threat. This seems to be a license to create mayhem.

    We just moved from the FL Panhandle to central Florida a few months ago. We sold our house and had a spring break experience in PCB in March. It was shocking. African Americans (they said from GA brought many guns including assault rifles to the beaches). There was a shooting. The women were twerking and jerking, imitating vulgarity from the backs of pick up trucks wearing next to nothing. They were disrupting roads, gas stations and ran thru Walmart pulling merchandise off the shelves. The stores had to be closed, including the beach establishments that had weddings planned and other events. All night and for several nights there were constant sirens and police and news helicopters overhead!

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-ne-ap-spring-break-florida-arrests-20220329-4q3xpszocfhutf7thwf7zjv75e-story.html

    These were not spring breakers or college kids. I had no idea. My sister in law, a home healthcare nurse waited in a long line for an hour to get gas because they were bumping and grinding in the gas station stalls. I saw it myself. The African American community is not healthy. They are being sold a pack of distortion and lies. Arming up is not the answer. Pitting races against each other is not right. It’s progressive propaganda and we’ve been witnessing it throughout major cities since George Floyd. This victim mentality started way before that. I blame Obama, who had a great opportunity to lift up minority communities in positive ways. Look at our inner cities – his Chicago and other Democratic led cities. It didn’t work. More blacks are killed in gang-related shootings.

    [redacted]

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Also, the ones doing the twerking and such, are probably not the ones going to legal practice ranges.  At least, I didn’t see any mention of twerking in the OP.

    Otherwise, what’s your point?  That white people shouldn’t own guns because of Hunter Biden?

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  21. kidCoder Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I am amazed that your post got on the Main Feed.  While the 2nd Amendment should be protected and people who own weapons should know how to use them properly, I find your post and headlines disturbing.  Law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves – that is a right under American law.  However, there seems to be a narrative being promoted among minority men that white people, or law enforcement, or quite frankly conservatives are a threat.  This seems to be a license to create mayhem.

    Frankly racist.

    Every American has a right to be armed, and should be if their personal circumstances permit it.

    There is no one group that shouldn’t. Preppers should be armed, socialists should be armed, capitalists should be armed, and if they choose to be armed because they happen to be in a certain group, and believe they shall need to do battle against another group…. so what? “He that hath a sword by his side shall have least occasion to use it.”

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  22. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Also, the ones doing the twerking and such, are probably not the ones going to legal practice ranges. At least, I didn’t see any mention of twerking in the OP.

    Otherwise, what’s your point? That white people shouldn’t own guns because of Hunter Biden?

    Exactly. 

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  23. kidCoder Member
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    kidCoder (View Comment):
    There is no one group that shouldn’t.

    I will qualify.

    Unless you are under the express care and protection of the government (an inmate), or the courts believe you personally to be unwilling or unable to limit your violence against others, you should have the option to have arms.

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  24. kedavis Coolidge
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    Oh, the lack of self-awareness….

    What was the title of that post, maybe a few months ago now?  “The stupid, it hurts!”

     

     

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  25. Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patriot) Member
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    kidCoder (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I am amazed that your post got on the Main Feed. While the 2nd Amendment should be protected and people who own weapons should know how to use them properly, I find your post and headlines disturbing. Law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves – that is a right under American law. However, there seems to be a narrative being promoted among minority men that white people, or law enforcement, or quite frankly conservatives are a threat. This seems to be a license to create mayhem.

    Frankly racist.

    Every American has a right to be armed, and should be if their personal circumstances permit it.

    There is no one group that shouldn’t. Preppers should be armed, socialists should be armed, capitalists should be armed, and if they choose to be armed because they happen to be in a certain group, and believe they shall need to do battle against another group…. so what? “He that hath a sword by his side shall have least occasion to use it.”

    I don’t think that this comment is racist.

    I think that FSC is correct in pointing out that there is a terrible BLM narrative in this country claiming that black Americans are at serious risk of being shot by white people or cops.  With more black Americans having guns, there is a greater risk that one of them will shoot a white person or a cop due to this ideology.

    Overall, I do not have a problem with black Americans, or others, arming themselves.  The major risk that black Americans face is violent crime committed by other black Americans.  I agree that they have the right to defend themselves.

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    kidCoder (View Comment):

    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):
    I am amazed that your post got on the Main Feed. While the 2nd Amendment should be protected and people who own weapons should know how to use them properly, I find your post and headlines disturbing. Law abiding citizens should be able to defend themselves – that is a right under American law. However, there seems to be a narrative being promoted among minority men that white people, or law enforcement, or quite frankly conservatives are a threat. This seems to be a license to create mayhem.

    Frankly racist.

    Every American has a right to be armed, and should be if their personal circumstances permit it.

    There is no one group that shouldn’t. Preppers should be armed, socialists should be armed, capitalists should be armed, and if they choose to be armed because they happen to be in a certain group, and believe they shall need to do battle against another group…. so what? “He that hath a sword by his side shall have least occasion to use it.”

    I don’t think that this comment is racist.

    I think that FSC is correct in pointing out that there is a terrible BLM narrative in this country claiming that black Americans are at serious risk of being shot by white people or cops. With more black Americans having guns, there is a greater risk that one of them will shoot a white person or a cop due to this ideology.

    Overall, I do not have a problem with black Americans, or others, arming themselves. The major risk that black Americans face is violent crime committed by other black Americans. I agree that they have the right to defend themselves.

    The point I was also trying to make, is that the people “arming up” now are not likely to be the ones previously doing the shootings.  (Who wouldn’t have cared about the previous restrictions anyway.)  They would be the ones who were not permitted to defend themselves in the past.

    And to the extent to which they are now – ahem – encouraged to defend themselves, that should mean even fewer shootings attributed to supposedly-racist cops etc.  (A number which was already rather small, but that got exaggerated by many.)

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  27. ctlaw Coolidge
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    @ctlaw

    Meanwhile in NY:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/nys-gun-laws-restrict-weapons-090255013.html

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