Biden Wants the War in Ukraine. Convince Me Otherwise.

 

There’s an interesting piece on National Review today. I have repeatedly argued on Ricochet that Mr. Biden is responsible for, and set up, the Ukraine war.

  1. Mr. Putin invaded former Soviet Socialist Republics under Mssrs. Clinton, W., and Obama, but not during Mr. Trump’s term.
  2. Mr. Biden’s destruction of American energy production enriched Mr. Putin and improved his international leverage.
  3. Mr. Biden’s fecklessness in Afghanistan proved us a paper tiger.
  4. Mr. Biden said out loud to an international audience that we would not respond to “a limited incursion” in Ukraine. I heard it myself.

Mr. Zubrin takes my analysis further and shows how post-invasion US policy has benefited Russia while giving Mr. Biden cover.

So, I say it again.  Mr. Biden wanted this war, likely to cover up his crimes in Ukraine, and he has taken every possible action to allow it to happen and to prevent a Ukrainian victory. Every drop of blood shed in Ukraine is on his hands.

Talk me out of it.

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  1. The Reticulator Member
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    Similarly, nobody has made an argument that convinces me that I am not Napoleon Bonaparte.  

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  2. Zafar Member
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I think people agree with you. Though I’d go further and say that any politician that gets donations from military hardware companies would benefit.

    • #62
  3. TBA Coolidge
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I will say that when you’re The World’s Policeman™ you don’t have to orchestrate a war, all you have to do is look the other way. 

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  4. Vince Guerra Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money. 

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  5. Vince Guerra Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    Similarly, nobody has made an argument that convinces me that I am not Napoleon Bonaparte.

    Oh, please. 

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  6. The Reticulator Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    Then why is it relevant whether anybody in D.C. gives at rat’s ___ about Ukraine?  

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  7. Zafar Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    Then why is it relevant whether anybody in D.C. gives at rat’s ___ about Ukraine?

    That’s how it’s being sold (about Ukraine rather than about US dominance or the dollar as reserve currency).

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  8. The Reticulator Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    Then why is it relevant whether anybody in D.C. gives at rat’s ___ about Ukraine?

    That’s how it’s being sold (about Ukraine rather than about US dominance or the dollar as reserve currency).

    What does it matter to me whether somebody sells something at some market somewhere in the world?

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  9. Zafar Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    Then why is it relevant whether anybody in D.C. gives at rat’s ___ about Ukraine?

    That’s how it’s being sold (about Ukraine rather than about US dominance or the dollar as reserve currency).

    What does it matter to me whether somebody sells something at some market somewhere in the world?

    Sold to the domestic audience.

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  10. The Reticulator Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    Then why is it relevant whether anybody in D.C. gives at rat’s ___ about Ukraine?

    That’s how it’s being sold (about Ukraine rather than about US dominance or the dollar as reserve currency).

    What does it matter to me whether somebody sells something at some market somewhere in the world?

    Sold to the domestic audience.

    I suppose it is possible but ever since February 24 I have scrupulously avoided any U.S. mainstream media coverage of the war.  There are other marketplaces where one can shop for ideas. 

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  11. Zafar Member
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    Where are you ‘shopping’?

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  12. The Reticulator Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Where are you ‘shopping’?

    Not much of anywhere in recent weeks. But I do catch some foreign sources here and there. 

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  13. Steven Seward Member
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    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did.  Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war.  I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits.   Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

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  14. Steven Seward Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    I’m more concerned that America is secretly taxing its citizens by funding welfare programs and a thousand other things the Fedral Gubmint shouldn’t be spending money on with fake money.  I think those things cost more  than war funding by a factor of more than 100 to one.

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  15. Vince Guerra Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    I’m more concerned that America is secretly taxing its citizens by funding welfare programs and a thousand other things the Fedral Gubmint shouldn’t be spending money on with fake money. I think those things cost more than war funding by a factor of more than 100 to one.

    No, war is far more expensive. And for them, far more lucrative. 

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  16. Vince Guerra Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did. Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war. I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits. Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant. 

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  17. MDHahn Coolidge
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    I’m more concerned that America is secretly taxing its citizens by funding welfare programs and a thousand other things the Fedral Gubmint shouldn’t be spending money on with fake money. I think those things cost more than war funding by a factor of more than 100 to one.

    No, war is far more expensive. And for them, far more lucrative.

    Who is “them”? Does Biden own a defense contractor that I’m unaware of? 

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  18. Zafar Member
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    MDHahn (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):
    Nobody in D.C. gives a rat’s ___ about Ukraine. They want a war because war is good for them and their friends. Kosovo, Afghanistan, Yemen, Ukraine…any country will do.

    So which is it that Americans are supposed to care about: Ukraine or America’s national interest?

    That’s a weird question.

    People can care about whatever they want. America shouldn’t be secretly taxing its citizens by funding perpetual wars with fake money.

    I’m more concerned that America is secretly taxing its citizens by funding welfare programs and a thousand other things the Fedral Gubmint shouldn’t be spending money on with fake money. I think those things cost more than war funding by a factor of more than 100 to one.

    No, war is far more expensive. And for them, far more lucrative.

    Who is “them”? Does Biden own a defense contractor that I’m unaware of?

    Cart, horse.

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  19. Steven Seward Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did. Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war. I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits. Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    I’m afraid that entitlements and welfare spending outstrips military spending by several factors.

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  20. Steven Seward Member
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    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did. Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war. I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits. Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    You are suggesting that China is controlling the war and Brandon is insignificant..  This totally contradicts the author’s post and is one of the reasons I think people are just throwing ideas against the wall to see if they will stick.

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    I’m afraid that entitlements and welfare spending outstrips military spending by several factors.

    Which is not really an argument for continuing any of them. “Cut everything but that” where “that” is a moving target, and nothing will ever be cut.

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  22. Bob Thompson Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

     

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did. Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war. I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits. Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    You are suggesting that China is controlling the war and Brandon is insignificant.. This totally contradicts the author’s post and is one of the reasons I think people are just throwing ideas against the wall to see if they will stick.

    I think some here are saying that Biden is so connected to the CCP for monetary payoffs and connected similarly to aid funds flowing into Ukraine that having this conflict serves his interests personally and not necessarily America’s national interests which is what he is elected to do.

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  23. Steven Seward Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    I’m afraid that entitlements and welfare spending outstrips military spending by several factors.

    Which is not really an argument for continuing any of them. “Cut everything but that” where “that” is a moving target, and nothing will ever be cut.

    I am arguing for cutting all of it, even military spending.

    • #83
  24. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    I’m afraid that entitlements and welfare spending outstrips military spending by several factors.

    Which is not really an argument for continuing any of them. “Cut everything but that” where “that” is a moving target, and nothing will ever be cut.

    I am arguing for cutting all of it, even military spending.

    Me, too, but I am particularly chagrined about throwing billions of taxpayer money into the corrupt wilds of Ukraine. I suspect it’s being funneled directly to the world’s oligarchs — with 10 percent for the big guy, of course.

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  25. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    I am arguing for cutting all of it, even military spending.

    Me, too, but I am particularly chagrined about throwing billions of taxpayer money into the corrupt wilds of Ukraine. I suspect it’s being funneled directly to the world’s oligarchs — with 10 percent for the big guy, of course.

    Given the uproar whenever someone mentions accounting and having an IG, we should assume corruption is rampant.

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  26. Vince Guerra Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Doctor Robert (View Comment):

    I say it again. Mr Biden wants this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it to happen.

    No one has made an argument that makes me believe the contrary.

    I don’t think you have made an argument that Biden wanted this war, benefits from it, and encouraged it any more than German Chancellor Olaf Scholz did. Particularly your assertion that Biden benefits from this war. I don’t recall you writing a single word of explanation for how he benefits. Come to think of it, you haven’t written any reason why Biden would have wanted this war, either.

    He’s owned by the CCP. He does whatever they want and weak America with a crashed economy is what they want and benefit from. Brandon is insignificant.

    You are suggesting that China is controlling the war and Brandon is insignificant.. This totally contradicts the author’s post and is one of the reasons I think people are just throwing ideas against the wall to see if they will stick.

    China controls just about every aspect of American government, academia, media, entertainment, and corporations. China and Russia are united in a common goal: To weaken America. Biden (and the uniparty) have been contributing to that and for as long as I can remember, motivated by crook (the Biden/Clinton crime families, for example), blackmail (the CCP has mastered this), or ideology (closet communists). Trump warned about this, so have just about all of the worlds experts on communism. Every dollar the U.S. prints to fund idiotic war spending (or domestic spending) weakens America, and strengthens the CCP and Russia. This is by design. The uniparty wants this to happen, or at least, doesn’t care if it does.

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  27. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    The Government of Ukraine has issued a blacklist of individuals who they judge to be “promoting Russian propaganda” — including a number of prominent Western intellectuals.

    The “Center for Countering Disinformation,” established in 2021 under Volodymyr Zelensky and headed by former lawyer Polina Lysenko, sits within the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine. Its stated aim is to detect and counter “propaganda” and “destructive disinformation” and to prevent the “manipulation of public opinion.”

    On July 14th it published on its website a list of politicians, academics, activists that are “promoting Russian propaganda” — including several high-profile Western intellectuals and politicians. Republican Senator Rand Paul, former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, military and geopolitical analyst Edward N. Luttwak, realist political scientist John Mearsheimer and heterodox journalist Glenn Greenwald were all included on the list. The list does not explain what the consequences are for anyone mentioned.

    The exact criteria for inclusion are also unclear, although next to each name the report lists the “pro Russian” opinions the individual promotes. For example, Edward Luttwak’s breach was to suggest that “referendums should be held in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions”; Mearsheimer’s breach is recorded as him saying that “NATO has been in Ukraine since 2014” and that “NATO provoked Putin.”

    The relevant intellectuals were surprised and concerned to be included on a government blacklist in this way. UnHerd contacted Luttwak (an occasional contributor), Mearsheimer and Greenwald for comment.

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  28. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    On July 14th it published on its website a list of politicians, academics, activists that are “promoting Russian propaganda” — including several high-profile Western intellectuals and politicians. Republican Senator Rand Paul, former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, military and geopolitical analyst Edward N. Luttwak, realist political scientist John Mearsheimer and heterodox journalist Glenn Greenwald were all included on the list.

    That is also known as the “the short list of people I still respect”.  Need to look up Mearsheimer and Luttwak.

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  29. Zafar Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    On July 14th it published on its website a list of politicians, academics, activists that are “promoting Russian propaganda” — including several high-profile Western intellectuals and politicians. Republican Senator Rand Paul, former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, military and geopolitical analyst Edward N. Luttwak, realist political scientist John Mearsheimer and heterodox journalist Glenn Greenwald were all included on the list.

    That is also known as the “the short list of people I still respect”. Need to look up Mearsheimer and Luttwak.

    I don’t know Luttwak, but I think Mearsheimer’s deal is that Russia should have been brought into NATO when it asked and that would have bound that big strategic chunk of Eurasia to the American alliance rather than setting it up as a useful enemy (keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down) that was threatened by (unnecessary) NATO expansion (and where was Russia going to go after that, obviously).

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  30. Steven Seward Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    On July 14th it published on its website a list of politicians, academics, activists that are “promoting Russian propaganda” — including several high-profile Western intellectuals and politicians. Republican Senator Rand Paul, former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, military and geopolitical analyst Edward N. Luttwak, realist political scientist John Mearsheimer and heterodox journalist Glenn Greenwald were all included on the list.

    That is also known as the “the short list of people I still respect”. Need to look up Mearsheimer and Luttwak.

    I don’t know Luttwak, but I think Mearsheimer’s deal is that Russia should have been brought into NATO when it asked and that would have bound that big strategic chunk of Eurasia to the American alliance rather than setting it up as a useful enemy (keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down) that was threatened by (unnecessary) NATO expansion (and where was Russia going to go after that, obviously).

    I am not aware that Russia ever applied for NATO membership.  Where did you get that idea from?

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