When, Exactly, Did the Medical Profession Lose Its Mind?

 

Houston Methodist Hospital System is in the middle of a staffing emergency. They have over 400 fully-vaccinated employees out sick with Covid-19.  They fired 153 people last year who refused the hospital system’s vaccine mandate. This is a statement from a hospital system spokeswoman:

“We have 400 employees out sick with COVID. They are out sick without severe illness. We stand by the effectiveness of the vaccine,” Asin responded.

Those two sentences contradict each other.  The spokeswoman has no idea.  No mind, it appears.

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  1. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    RushBabe49:

    a statement from a hospital system spokeswoman:

    “We have 400 employees out sick with COVID. They are out sick without severe illness. We stand by the effectiveness of the vaccine,”

    So they vaccinate their entire staff, but still, so many of them get sick, that they can’t staff their hospitals. 

    I wonder what she would describe as ‘ineffective’? 

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  2. Arahant Member
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    RushBabe49: When, exactly, did the medical profession lose its mind?

    You assume the medical profession was ever sane? They can’t even tell the difference between a symbol of healing and symbol of death.

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  3. Chuck Thatcher
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    Wonder if it was the medical profession or was it hospital administrators responding to the feds.

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
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    All our professional fields are suffering the ill effects of our educational process.  Tradesmen tend to sustain quality work except in some of their business practices. 

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  5. Bob Thompson Member
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    Watch the beginning of the Dan Bongino Show Episode 1810 and you will see why.

    https://bongino.com/ep-1810-i-was-trending-on-social-media-this-weekend-heres-why

    I clicked and didn’t get anything. A main point that shows the problem with the education system is what Bongino is calling ‘signaling’, where the Harvard degree  in computer programming will get one the job even absent programming skills.

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  6. Jim McConnell Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    RushBabe49:

    a statement from a hospital system spokeswoman:

    “We have 400 employees out sick with COVID. They are out sick without severe illness. We stand by the effectiveness of the vaccine,”

    So they vaccinate their entire staff, but still, so many of them get sick, that they can’t staff their hospitals.

    I wonder what she would describe as ‘ineffective’?

    As I said in an earlier comment, the Oregon Health Authority reports that, as of last week, more than 54% of vaccinated persons experience a “breakthrough” infection of the virus. 

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  7. MiMac Thatcher
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    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability. 

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    Only government could sustain such a farce.

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  9. Sisyphus Member
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    The diagnosis is clear. I prescribe a course of leeches.

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  10. Bob Thompson Member
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    An important fact is being demonstrated by this example. The result created by the Leftist takeover of the education process has filled the minds  of our so-called “educated” class with views that do not match reality. They substitute these erroneous views for knowledge and consequently they know nothing. 

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  11. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    RushBabe49: “We have 400 employees out sick with COVID.”

    MiMac (View Comment):
    …unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have).

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    …the Oregon Health Authority reports that, as of last week, more than 54% of vaccinated persons experience a “breakthrough” infection of the virus. 

    Heckuva job….

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  12. Bob Thompson Member
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    This is what we get from an educational approach that does not require the right solutions to problems posed to the students in order for those students to be recognized for correct performance. 

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  13. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    The only remotely preventative method against the CCP Virus is prior infection, which confers the best immunity.  But medical establishments which mandate vaccinations do not allow exceptions for those previously infected.  This is a political, not a scientific decision.  The vaccine mandates cause more harm than whatever good they do.

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  14. Percival Thatcher
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    The diagnosis is clear. I prescribe a course of leeches.

    Those will be easy to obtain. The federal government is full of them.

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  15. Steven Seward Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    Is Covid the only disease with which a person can sue a hospital if he gets infected in that hospital?  I thought that hospitals were infamous for being spreaders of “super bugs.”  Is there provision for a law suit if one catches one of those in a hospital?

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  16. Bishop Wash Member
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    RushBabe49: “We have 400 employees out sick with COVID.”

    MiMac (View Comment):
    …unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have).

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    …the Oregon Health Authority reports that, as of last week, more than 54% of vaccinated persons experience a “breakthrough” infection of the virus.

    Heckuva job….

    Be sure to drink your Ovaltine get your Pfizer shot. 

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  17. Dr. Bastiat Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    Is Covid the only disease with which a person can sue a hospital if he gets infected in that hospital? I thought that hospitals were infamous for being spreaders of “super bugs.” Is there provision for a law suit if one catches one of those in a hospital?

    Hadn’t thought of that.  That’s a great point… 

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  18. Rodin Member
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    Go woke, act like your brain on coke. 

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  19. Front Seat Cat Member
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    This is startling on so many levels – a perpetual cycle of shortages in critical areas.  I hope we don’t have a healthcare crisis this fall and winter when flu season hits.

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  20. Stad Coolidge
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    RushBabe49:

    “We have 400 employees out sick with COVID. They are out sick without severe illness. We stand by the effectiveness of the vaccine,” Asin responded.

    Those two sentences contradict each other.  The spokeswoman has no idea.  No mind, it appears.

    And they aren’t begging the people they fired for refusing the vaccine to come back.

    Or are they?

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  21. Charlotte Member
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    The diagnosis is clear. I prescribe a course of leeches.

    Those will be easy to obtain. The federal government is full of them.

    Well played.

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  22. Stad Coolidge
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    Percival (View Comment):

    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    The diagnosis is clear. I prescribe a course of leeches.

    Those will be easy to obtain. The federal government is full of them.

    The word “politics” comes from the prefix “poli” which means “many,” and “tics” which are blood-sucking parasites . . .

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  23. Unsk Member
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    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability. 

    For once I agree with you MiMac. It’s all about the  intimidation. Maximum intimidation at all the most critical nodes of the societal network to produce the desired omnipresent power and control of We the People.  And that is really the  core issue driving ” When exactly did the medical profession lose its Mind?” The upper echelons of the medical profession have all been bought and paid for one way or another, so you can forget about professional integrity completely from many a doctor.  That is now ancient history and so is the trust once given Doctors.  Even worse are the the Hospitals that are almost all now owned by the large insurance companies who got massive favors and kickbacks from the whole Ohamacare corrupt, insidious bureaucracy, so you can count on them “falling in line” with an all too wiling “You betcha” and “how high do you want me to jump”thing happening !

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  24. Bob Thompson Member
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    Unsk (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    For once I agree with you MiMac. It’s all about the intimidation. Maximum intimidation at all the most critical nodes of the societal network to produce the desired omnipresent power and control of We the People. And that is really the core issue driving ” When exactly did the medical profession lose its Mind?” The upper echelons of the medical profession have all been bought and paid for one way or another, so you can forget about professional integrity completely from many a doctor. That is now ancient history and so is the trust once given Doctors. Even worse are the the Hospitals that are almost all now owned by the large insurance companies who got massive favors and kickbacks from the whole Ohamacare corrupt, insidious bureaucracy, so you can count on them “falling in line” with an all too wiling “You betcha” and “how high do you want me to jump”thing happening !

    The educational profession arrived there quite a while back followed closely by the law enforcement professionals.

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  25. Joe Boyle Member
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    This is startling on so many levels – a perpetual cycle of shortages in critical areas. I hope we don’t have a healthcare crisis this fall and winter when flu season hits.

    Food shortages, supply chain mayhem, fuel costs, inflation, over two more years of Biden, critical everything theories, rising crime, corrupt institutions, recession, ESG, DEI, I think we are well on the way to DE civilization. Diversity is not our strength. Everything is a battle. Everyone wants their share of a shrinking pie. With all the environment morons we will not be able to grow our way out.

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Dr. Bastiat (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    Is Covid the only disease with which a person can sue a hospital if he gets infected in that hospital? I thought that hospitals were infamous for being spreaders of “super bugs.” Is there provision for a law suit if one catches one of those in a hospital?

    Hadn’t thought of that. That’s a great point…

    I thought of that right away. What makes COVID so special that hospitals fear being sued should a patient pick it up at a hospital? What makes COVID so special that legislation is required to limit the employer’s liability?

    I would think the bigger worry for an employer is forcing employees to get vaxxed and then the lawsuit when that employee gets blood clots or dies.

    (And to that end, may a million lawsuits bloom.)

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  27. Bishop Wash Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    thought of that right away. What makes COVID so special that hospitals fear being sued should a patient pick it up at a hospital? What makes COVID so special that legislation is required to limit the employer’s liability?

    It’s the deadliest virus evah! With a 103% fatality rate. Eight billion people have died from it so far.

    Yes, the initial stages were scary when it was largely unknown. It has entered the endemic stage and seems to have mutated into a fairly mild strain. I wouldn’t have known I had it unless Brandon Weinstein didn’t make me test every week for refusing to let him stick something in me to keep my job.

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  28. RushBabe49 Thatcher
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    Front Seat Cat (View Comment):

    This is startling on so many levels – a perpetual cycle of shortages in critical areas. I hope we don’t have a healthcare crisis this fall and winter when flu season hits.

    Nah, everyone will be locked down again, and will die at home.

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  29. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Sisyphus (View Comment):

    The diagnosis is clear. I prescribe a course of leeches.

    There are several other techniques for “bleeding.”  I suggest they all be used together for optimal results. 

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  30. Nanocelt TheContrarian Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    You overlook the liability issue- Congress has refused to pass legislation limiting employer’s liability for COVID- and hospitals as well. If a customer (or patient) sued claiming he got COVID from an employee of your business (or hospital) you are in trouble – unless you can point out that you required vaccines (which are the only preventative method we have). That is also why hospitals keep requiring mask use by the staff. Until there is some legal protection, employers are only being prudent in taking steps to limit their liability.

    Is Covid the only disease with which a person can sue a hospital if he gets infected in that hospital? I thought that hospitals were infamous for being spreaders of “super bugs.” Is there provision for a law suit if one catches one of those in a hospital?

    The problem is that the Covid vaccines are the only preventive measure whose producers have complete immunity from liability. So no one can sue vaccine manufacturers for adverse reactions to the vaccines. So the liability for hospitals from not having employees vaccinated is high while employees have no ability to sue the vaccine makers if employees suffer severe adverse reactions to the vaccines. So of course they require vaccination and defend it as effective, in defense of their own caving to liability risk. One wonders what might happen if hospital employees sued the hospital for adverse reactions to the vaccine that the hospital mandated.  Has that happened?

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