The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump

 

I knew instantly it was false when the news broke that a pro-life Catholic high school student from Kentucky had mistreated an elderly Native American veteran on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial during the March for Life a few years ago. I knew it instantly. It did not smell right.

Sad to say, many major pro-life leaders immediately attacked the kid. But I knew it was false, and it was.

In precisely the same way, I knew instantly it was false when Cassidy Hutchinson told the January 6th committee that Trump tried to hijack the presidential SUV and, in the process, choked a Secret Service agent.

Keep in mind, Trump is the man his haters said could not walk down a short ramp at a graduation ceremony. He is the man they said was so frail he could not drink from a cup except by using both hands.

When it is useful for them, this frail man becomes Jason Bourne—able to leap a great distance from a seated position and at the same time lay hands on the throat of a Secret Service agent.

Hutchinson also told the committee she heard the president say he didn’t care if armed men were trying to get through presidential security because they weren’t there to harm him. The implication of Hutchinson’s charge is that he allowed armed men past security all the better to invade the Capitol and kill Vice President Pence. Since Washington, D.C., has severe gun laws, one wonders why these armed men were not arrested instantly; unless they never existed except in certain fevered brains.

Hutchinson said under oath that White House Counsel Pat Cipollone confided to her that the president going up to the Capitol that day would have broken “any number of laws.” I have known Pat Cipollone for years. He is a very careful man. It does not pass the smell test that Cipollone would confide in the likes of Cassidy Hutchinson. What’s more, one wonders what laws Hutchinson thinks would be broken by the president going to an impromptu rally at the Capitol?

The usual suspects fell all over themselves praising the bravery of Hutchinson. Former Prosecutor Andy McCarthy, usually extremely careful, jumped with both feet onto the claim that Trump tried to overpower his security detail and hijack the presidential SUV. The next day, he backed off and settled on the possibility that the story may be false, but Hutchinson was not lying since she was merely repeating what she had heard someone say.

The goofballs over at The Bulwark did yet one more in a long line of tap dances on the grave of DJT’s presidency. Mona Charen said Hutchinson was a heroine and hoped her courage would be as courageous as most Republicans’ cowardice. Gay vulgarian Tim Miller said, “This afternoon a 26-year-old former assistant showed more courage and integrity than an entire administration full of grown-ass adults who were purportedly working in service to the American people but had long ago decided to serve only their ambition and grievance.”

This is a pattern among the Trump-haters, believing the most incredible things they hear.

Remember the pee-pee tape? They were told Trump hired prostitutes to urinate on the Moscow hotel bed where Barack Obama once slept. They really believed this.

Remember when he supposedly quoted Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini? Trump retweeted an old saying—“better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.”

It was tweeted from a troll account @ilduce2016. Get it? Get it? Trump quoted Mussolini! Trump is a fascist! We have proof!!!

NBC newsman Chuck Todd said, “That’s a famous Mussolini quote. You retweeted it. Do you like the quote? Did you know it was Mussolini?” It turns out the quote is attributed by the Oxford Dictionary of Proverbs to the Sultan of Mysore circa 1799.

These guys will believe anything as long as it works against Trump.

Do you remember when Trump said he was “king”? In February 2020, Trump survived impeachment. The New York Times quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson, “When you strike at the king, you must kill him.” Trump retweeted this. The Executive Editor of Bloomberg opinion said, “When you say the thing out loud: I am a king.” Law professor and frequent MSNBC talking head Barb McQuade said, “This may be the most sinister tweet Trump has ever posted. He is comparing himself with the king and threatening to use his powers for revenge on those who questioned his abuse of power.” Even faded, nutball actress Mia Farrow joined the fun, “You are not a king.” This went on for days.

How about when Trump said he was “the chosen one”? In August 2019, as Trump walked toward the presidential chopper, he was asked about the impending trade war with China. He said no previous president had taken on China, then he glanced skyward, raised his arms, and said, “I am the chosen one. I am taking on China. I am taking on China on trade.” A writer at CNN said, “‘Chosen one,’ then, isn’t just rhetoric. It’s a deeply held part of who Trump is—and always has been.” Radical feminist Amanda Marcotte wrote at Salon, “Even for a bottomless pit of narcissism like Donald Trump, Wednesday was an exceptional day for self-aggrandizement.”

The very same day, a Christian radio host compared Trump to the King of Israel. The Daily Beast then wrote, “Trump Says He’s King of the Jews. The Bible Says Otherwise.”

One could go on and on about the lies they tell about Donald Trump. The Washington Post says Trump spouted more than 30,000 lies during his four years. Even that is a lie.

It is unfortunate that young Hutchinson has allowed herself to be used by the odious Liz Cheney and the unhinged folks on the J6 Committee. Maybe she didn’t lie, but the stories she told are false. In the end, she will probably become the conservative co-host on The View.

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  1. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Any rule can and must be broken to defeat Trump. Lying? Sure, it’s worth it to lie about him to defeat him. Compromise one’s personal integrity? What use is integrity when Trump is in power. Break the law? Laws are for little people and if they allow Trump to be in power then they are immoral anyway and can be ignored.

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  2. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Any rule can and must be broken to defeat Trump. Lying? Sure, it’s worth it to lie about him to defeat him. Compromise one’s personal integrity? What use is integrity when Trump is in power. Break the law? Laws are for little people and if they allow Trump to be in power then they are immoral anyway and can be ignored.

    What’s stealing an election when your opponent is literally Hitler?

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  3. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Any rule can and must be broken to defeat Trump. Lying? Sure, it’s worth it to lie about him to defeat him. Compromise one’s personal integrity? What use is integrity when Trump is in power. Break the law? Laws are for little people and if they allow Trump to be in power then they are immoral anyway and can be ignored.

    What’s stealing an election when your opponent is literally Hitler?

    And in the next election, literally Hitler will be on the ballot again. 

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  4. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    Democrats love theater. They enjoy either position–in the audience or in the spotlight. They long for the days of the Scopes trial. High-level Democrats entertain their base by conducting show trials and “hearings”–the Anita Hill “hearings” come to mind–as a way to destroy their opponents.

    The FBI conducted a thorough investigation immediately after the January 6 protest, and they delivered their findings to Congress, that there were no weapons found and no indication of a desire of the participants to overthrow the government. A couple of people deserved to be in jail, maybe, but the rest of this has been nothing more than a get-Trump-at-any-cost effort. Funny thing about the man they hate: I can’t think of anyone he hurt the way these politicians have hurt the people who participated in that protest that got out of hand. The reality is the absolute opposite of what they say. Trump is not the guy to fear. It’s each of them.

    The Republican Party should be writing the greatest speeches of all time, using these hearings to describe what persecution looks like and how horrifically the federal government can bear down on individuals today. This should be an object lesson in why the federal government is too big and too powerful and too rich. We’ve got to return this power to the states so we can have a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. What we are seeing is what millions of people in this country were running away from when they got here.

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Austin Ruse: Remember the pee-pee tape? They were told Trump hired prostitutes to urinate on the Moscow hotel bed where Barack Obama once slept. They really believed this. 

    Pretty sure now that was Hunter Biden who did that, given the recent revelations of Ol’ Joe buying his son some Russian hookers. And I mean, I’m not joking. I suspect that’s exactly where the Dossier’s creator got that little detail. It really happened. But it wasn’t President Trump.

    Once again Democrats projecting their own sins on Republicans.

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  6. Bob Thompson Member
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    @BobThompson

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The Republican Party should be writing the greatest speeches of all time, using these hearings to describe what persecution looks like and how horrifically the federal government can bear down on individuals today. This should be an object lesson in why the federal government is too big and too powerful and too rich. We’ve got to return this power to the states so we can have a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. What we are seeing is what millions of people in this country were running away from when they got here. 

     

    The official Republican Party organization leadership appears useless and impotent. The American people are so fortunate that the Leftist cheating did not have a sufficient hold in 2016 to accomplish what it did in 2020. Trump’s presidency has given us this one chance to recover but the Republican Party leadership must act to overcome the lying and cheating. 

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  7. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Any rule can and must be broken to defeat Trump. Lying? Sure, it’s worth it to lie about him to defeat him. Compromise one’s personal integrity? What use is integrity when Trump is in power. Break the law? Laws are for little people and if they allow Trump to be in power then they are immoral anyway and can be ignored.

    What’s stealing an election when your opponent is literally Hitler?

    And in the next election, literally Hitler will be on the ballot again.

    We haven’t hit the midterms and the articles are already being written. 

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  8. Doctor Robert Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The Republican Party should be writing the greatest speeches of all time, using these hearings to describe what persecution looks like and how horrifically the federal government can bear down on individuals today. This should be an object lesson in why the federal government is too big and too powerful and too rich. We’ve got to return this power to the states so we can have a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. What we are seeing is what millions of people in this country were running away from when they got here.

    The official Republican Party organization leadership appears is utterly useless and impotent. The American people are so fortunate that the Leftist cheating did not have a sufficient hold in 2016 to accomplish what it did in 2020. Trump’s presidency has given us this one chance to recover but the Republican Party leadership must act to overcome the lying and cheating.

    FIFY

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  9. cdor Member
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    @cdor

    Andrew Klavan did a podcast with Megan Kelly the other day. Klavan was certainly pro Trump policies, but never a big fan of Trump the man. Fair enough. But Klavan kept talking about the obnoxious Trump personality and the mean tweets, as if it were a fact taken for granted. I kept wanting Klavan to be more specific. Which tweets, exactly, did he find mean. What specifically were Trumps obnoxious traits? I would say narcissism, which is common in many high-level politicians, is one negative attribute I would associate with Trump. I always wished he would defer credit for his achievements more to his “team”. But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

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  10. MarciN Member
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    @MarciN

    cdor (View Comment):
    But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree completely. It’s bizarre. 

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  11. Bob Thompson Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree completely. It’s bizarre.

    And they make broad statements without specifics as well:

    DeSantis is smarter than Trump,

    @MaxBoot

    warns. That makes him more of a threat”

     

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  12. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    David C. Broussard (View Comment):

    Any rule can and must be broken to defeat Trump. Lying? Sure, it’s worth it to lie about him to defeat him. Compromise one’s personal integrity? What use is integrity when Trump is in power. Break the law? Laws are for little people and if they allow Trump to be in power then they are immoral anyway and can be ignored.

    It started in 2016 when the never Trumpers, who were agast Trump would not pledge to support the GOP nominee, pleaged to not support Trump if her got the nomination. 

    They are men and women without honor.

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  13. Franco Member
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):
    But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree completely. It’s bizarre.

    And they make broad statements without specifics as well:

    “DeSantis is smarter than Trump,

    @ MaxBoot

    warns. That makes him more of a threat”

     

    Well, Max Boot is much less of a threat by that calculation, because he’s dumber than a landmine.

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  14. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    There are a bunch of arguments made about past treatment of Trump, with the Covington kids being thrown in also.  I am not going to address them in this comment.  I am going to address the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump attempted to force the GMC Suburban to go to the Capitol as this appears the issue most people are raising.  

    Obviously, I wasn’t there.  I didn’t see this incident.  I was in Flagstaff on January 6, 2021.  I wasn’t in Washington, D.C.  I am relying on the testimony of the witnesses before the January 6th Committee.   Unique perhaps among my fellow Ricochetti, I actually watched all of the January 6th Committee Hearings, including but not limited to the Cassidy Hutchison testimony under oath.  Ms. Hutchison’s testimony was carefully crafted as to what it said and did not say. 

    Ms. Hutchison did not say that Trump lunged towards the steering wheel.  She said that Tony Ornato had told her of Trump lunging towards the steering wheel.  She added that one of the secret service officers was present when Tony Ornato said this.  The three most likely possibilities are as follows:

    The Three Alternatives

    First, Trump actually lunged at the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban, and Tony Ornato was accurate in what he told Cassidy Hutchinson.  Of note, the presence of the secret service officer who was there, gives credance to this point of view.  

    Second, Trump didn’t really lunge at the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban, and Tony Ornato either made it all up, or he fluffed up a true story to make it more dramatic.

    Third, Cassidy Hutchinson lied.  Tony Ornato never told her about this story of lunging, or she inflated it for her purposes. 

    It appears that the American Greatness crowd has choosen to believe the third scenario.  I don’t.  I think that the first two are much more likely.    

    Two Questions to be Answered

    Here are the two questions that should be answered.

    First, what did Tony Ornato say to Cassidy Hutchinson?  We have the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson under oath, now call Tony Ornato as a witness and ask him this directly under oath.  And call the secret service officer who was there apparently both for the incident in the Suburban and Tony Ornato’s conversation with Cassidy Hutchinson, and confirm what Tony Ornato actually said or didn’t say to Cassidy Hutchinson.

    Second, what acrually happened?  This information may or may not be available.  The Secret Service has argued in the case of Bill Clinton that they can’t do their job of protecting the President if they can be called as witnesses.  But make an attempt.  There were apparently two witnesses in the vehicle, the driver and the other agent.  Call them to testify.  If they can testify, great.  If they can’t testify, then that can’t be helped.  

    Conclusion

    I found the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson to be riveting and compelling.  It is a pity that we didn’t have a “9/11 style independent commission.”  It is a pity that Kevin McCarthy pulled all 5 Republicans from the Select Committee in a pique of anger.  

    But it is what it is.  There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.  

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  15. MarciN Member
    MarciN
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    • #15
  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Lying liars are going to lie. 

    Gullible fools will continue to believe it.

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

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  18. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings.  What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

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  19. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    Do you need “sworn evidence” that the sun will rise tomorrow?

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  20. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one.  But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

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  21. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one. But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

    You have repeated the 187 minutes lie several times in the past. I’m not surprised you completely ignored the information I gave you, because you ALWAYS IGNORE information that refutes your chosen Narrative.

    EDIT: In case you can’t see it, there’s a link right there that proves you are lying. But I guess you’ll dismiss it because it’s just a matter of math and logic and not “Sworn Evidence.”

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one. But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

    You have repeated the 187 minutes lie several times in the past. I’m not surprised you completely ignored the information I gave you, because you ALWAYS IGNORE information that refutes your chosen Narrative.

    EDIT: In case you can’t see it, there’s a link right there that proves you are lying. But I guess you’ll dismiss it because it’s just a matter of math and logic and not “Sworn Evidence.”

    He doesn’t even accept “sworn evidence,” usually, if it hasn’t been cross-examined etc, none of which is happening with The Committee.

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  23. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    kedavis (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one. But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

    You have repeated the 187 minutes lie several times in the past. I’m not surprised you completely ignored the information I gave you, because you ALWAYS IGNORE information that refutes your chosen Narrative.

    EDIT: In case you can’t see it, there’s a link right there that proves you are lying. But I guess you’ll dismiss it because it’s just a matter of math and logic and not “Sworn Evidence.”

    He doesn’t even accept “sworn evidence,” usually, if it hasn’t been cross-examined etc, none of which is happening with The Committee.

    The committee is operating under the direction of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi who is the official primarily responsible for the failure to protect and secure the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Now she is conducting these “hearings” in a manner that comports with those same failures. Very sad days for America and shameful for those who defend this committee’s actions. 

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  24. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    cdor (View Comment):

    Andrew Klavan did a podcast with Megan Kelly the other day. Klavan was certainly pro Trump policies, but never a big fan of Trump the man. Fair enough. But Klavan kept talking about the obnoxious Trump personality and the mean tweets, as if it were a fact taken for granted. I kept wanting Klavan to be more specific. Which tweets, exactly, did he find mean. What specifically were Trumps obnoxious traits? I would say narcissism, which is common in many high-level politicians, is one negative attribute I would associate with Trump. I always wished he would defer credit for his achievements more to his “team”. But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree with you, but I am uncomfortable with the general use of narcissism to describe people like Trump.  I know guys who are successful, compassionate and generous, and ballsy and ooze confidence.  What’s the difference between confidence and success, and what we call narcissism?

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  25. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I Liked your Rorschach comment.  Seriously.

    • #25
  26. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Andrew Klavan did a podcast with Megan Kelly the other day. Klavan was certainly pro Trump policies, but never a big fan of Trump the man. Fair enough. But Klavan kept talking about the obnoxious Trump personality and the mean tweets, as if it were a fact taken for granted. I kept wanting Klavan to be more specific. Which tweets, exactly, did he find mean. What specifically were Trumps obnoxious traits? I would say narcissism, which is common in many high-level politicians, is one negative attribute I would associate with Trump. I always wished he would defer credit for his achievements more to his “team”. But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree with you, but I am uncomfortable with the general use of narcissism to describe people like Trump. I know guys who are successful, compassionate and generous, and ballsy and ooze confidence. What’s the difference between confidence and success, and what we call narcissism?

    If I have it, it’s confidence and success, if you have it, it’s narcissism.

    • #26
  27. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one. But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

    You just said that you have no memory of what you said.

    • #27
  28. MarciN Member
    MarciN
    @MarciN

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    I Liked your Rorschach comment. Seriously.

    The FBI report to Congress should have been the end of it. I can’t believe the number of people the Biden administration has hurt.

    I’ve become very radical on this subject.

    • #28
  29. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    Andrew Klavan did a podcast with Megan Kelly the other day. Klavan was certainly pro Trump policies, but never a big fan of Trump the man. Fair enough. But Klavan kept talking about the obnoxious Trump personality and the mean tweets, as if it were a fact taken for granted. I kept wanting Klavan to be more specific. Which tweets, exactly, did he find mean. What specifically were Trumps obnoxious traits? I would say narcissism, which is common in many high-level politicians, is one negative attribute I would associate with Trump. I always wished he would defer credit for his achievements more to his “team”. But the crazed hatred exhibited by most of his detractors always seemed to me to be a mirror image of the man they hated.

    I agree with you, but I am uncomfortable with the general use of narcissism to describe people like Trump. I know guys who are successful, compassionate and generous, and ballsy and ooze confidence. What’s the difference between confidence and success, and what we call narcissism?

    If I have it, it’s confidence and success, if you have it, it’s narcissism.

    I am the world’s leading expert on Narcissistic Personality Disorder.  Not only that, I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder! — Sam Vaknin

    • #29
  30. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    There is an increasing mountain of compelling evidence from members of the Trump Administration as follows:

    1. Trump knew that he lost the 2020 election, but chose to follow the advice of a drunk Rudy Guilani to deny election results.
    2. Trump repeatedly promoted this “Big Lie” and whipped up all of his supporters.
    3. Trump implored his supporters to come to Washington, D.C. on January 6, 2021.
    4. Trump knew that the crowd included people with body armor, brass knuckles, bear spray and firearms, but said that they weren’t after him.
    5. Trump and the other speakers whipped the mob into a frenzy.
    6. Trump told the mob to go to the Capitol and said that he would join them.
    7. Tony Ornato told Cassidy Hutchinson that Trump had lunged for the steering wheel of the GMC Suburban.
    8. Trump was aware that the crowd was chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows said that Trump agreed with the crowd.
    9. For 187 minutes, Trump refused to intervene and tell the mob to go home.

    Even if we discover that Tony Ornato lied to Cassidy Hutchinson in item 7, the other 8 points still remain, and not been sufficiently rebutted.

    ^ The Lies They Continue to Tell About Donald Trump ^

    I can’t believe you’re still clinging to the 187 minutes lie. That was exposed as a lie so long ago, it was found embedded in the fossil records.

    Well, I believe that it will be addressed at future hearings. What sworn evidence, if any, do you have for your argument?

    LOL! I’ve actually pointed this out to you several times. Go look at your archives, man. “Sworn evidence.” Puh-leeze.

    A link would be helpful, if you have one. But I am not going to hunt through my achives, when I have no memory of what you say that I said.

    You just said that you have no memory of what you said.

    He just ignores any information contrary to his story of Orange Man bad. He still believes the Charlottesville lie. I’d wager Gary still believes the Covington kids were at fault.

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