Gavin Newsom Invites Floridians to California—Seriously?

 

When I read this headline, I had to make a double-take. Gavin Newsom could not be this delusional, thinking that he could lure Floridians to California. But I was wrong. He’s running a 30-second TV ad starting Monday on Fox News, and he should be able to hear the guffaws all the way to California. In part, the ad says:

‘I urge all of you live in Florida to join the fight, or join us in California, where we still believe in freedom, freedom of speech, freedom to choose, freedom from hate and the freedom to love,’ Newsom added. ‘Don’t let them take your freedom.’  

But then maybe he’s trying to boost his population numbers:

Last year, there was a net domestic out-migration of 367,000 Californians. Normally, it would take a famine or a city-destroying cataclysm to cause that kind of depopulation. Even New Orleans, half of it underwater, lost ‘only’ 240,000 people in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. I have done extensive research and discovered that the only disaster to hit California recently is a decade of one-party Democratic rule.

In fact, in the same year Newsom’s California was losing the population equivalent of Cleveland, Ohio, Florida gained 221,000 net residents — the population equivalent of San Bernardino. Florida has been under one-party Republican rule for 24 years now. So I guess people are just naturally attracted to fascism.

Or maybe he’s not aware of how Gov. DeSantis has preserved our freedoms in FL: letting parents choose how they wish to educate their children, keeping schools open during the pandemic, prohibiting political propaganda in place of history to be taught in the schools; preventing transgender education for young students, or refusing to cave-in to demands that businesses close and vaccines be mandatory.

Nah, Newsom had to know all about those decisions.

Some people are saying this is part of Newsom’s effort to begin a run for President.

Good luck with that, Gavin.

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  1. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    Don’t forget freedom to crap on the streets!

    It’s a little-known fact that was included in the first draft of the Bill of Rights, it was supposed to be amendment Number Two.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    Don’t forget freedom to crap on the streets!

    It’s a little-known fact that was included in the first draft of the Bill of Rights, it was supposed to be amendment Number Two.

     

     

     

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  3. I Walton Member
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    If you are an ordinary Democrat, don’t read or watch anything other than left wing media, you could easily believe the governor is serious.  As you say, he may be running for office, and ordinary democrats do not know how silly it sounds, probably do not know California is losing population, and don’t see pictures of the streets.  Try to imagine what goes on in your brain if you only watch  main stream media and don’t engage anyone not left wing.  They won’t   believe that if Democrats win the next elections they will have been stolen.  It worked last time and this time it will have to be even more massive but Democrats and some Republicans will believe it was a relatively honest election. 

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  4. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    I Walton (View Comment):
    It worked last time and this time it will have to be even more massive but Democrats and some Republicans will believe it was a relatively honest election. 

    I guess living in delusion is easier than dealing with cognitive dissonance!

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  5. I Walton Member
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    You know, lately I’ve been catching a whiff of fresh air. The biggest problem with secession is logistical: millions of people live in progressive cities within conservative states. But if the Dems keep driving out conservatives, and advertising for progressives, maybe the red states will get redder, and the blue states will get bluer, until a preliminary de facto secession by population is already achieved.

    I can dream, can’t I?

    Even Democrats like lower taxes and law and order so they will remain in states that leave. Those who like to raise hell and break things are mostly in democrat cities, and more will have to join them.  Presumably so will folks who want welfare if the new states truly go back to basics.  The only issue is China’s aggression, but that will only get worse with time and they already own Biden.

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  6. Rodin Member
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    Joseph Stanko (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    Don’t forget freedom to crap on the streets!

    It’s a little-known fact that was included in the first draft of the Bill of Rights, it was supposed to be amendment Number Two.

    Warning: Do not drink coffee while reading the above comment! (Too late. What a mess on my computer.)

    • #36
  7. Front Seat Cat Member
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    @FrontSeatCat

    Our new neighbors are from CA and fled – she said they tried to recall Gavin three times and politics there are all corrupt.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    I have a family member that bailed on East Bay. They were sick of the brown outs, bad fire management, and the potential for violence in the area. Probably the water situation as well, but I don’t think they were affected as much as they  are in some areas.

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  9. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I have a family member that bailed on East Bay. They were sick of the brown outs, bad fire management, and the potential for violence in the area. Probably the water situation as well, but I don’t think they were affected as much astray are in some areas.

    Glad they escaped!

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    I have a family member that bailed on East Bay. They were sick of the brown outs, bad fire management, and the potential for violence in the area. Probably the water situation as well, but I don’t think they were affected as much astray are in some areas.

    Glad they escaped!

    Clayton California. A great place for me to vacation, but it’s 20 minutes from Walnut Creek with that notorious video of 80 guys ransacking the department store. Walnut Creek is about as super high end as it gets.

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  11. RufusRJones Member
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    @RufusRJones

    This doesn’t get in the news much, but people are very angry about what has happened to the BART system. All kinds of social problems and crime, and you literally are forced to use it. Every single employee makes way more money than the average person and every single fiscal metric of the system is a disaster. It’s an albatross around the neck of the whole area and it is all they can do to make it go slightly in a good direction. I think they are still down 35% in revenue since the pandemic. 

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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    The left does have definitions that people on the right consider upside down, and they genuinely believe them.

    In the case of a couple of the items Gov. Newsom mentions, “freedom” means freedom of the individual from having to live with the consequences of the individual’s choices and actions. We have seen this elsewhere in politics. During the Obamacare debate Nancy Pelosi insisted mandatory insurance with subsidized premiums was pro-freedom because it would allow individuals to pursue their passions without being concerned with whether any employer or customer had any interest in paying for the product of that passion.

    I remember another time Obama complained that the Republican plan for (was it healthcare?) was “You’re on your own!” and my first thought was “How nice to be left alone by the government for a change.”

     

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  13. RufusRJones Member
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    I think since we have made so many decades of mistakes with health insurance, the reality is you need some government involvement still. 

    They should force everybody to be on an indemnity contract and on concierge medicine. Then you subsidize it as if everybody was on an employer plan. 

    Obamacare is a scam to force single-payer. Putting it politely, the leader ship from the GOP effectively did nothing except help force single-payer.

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  14. PeterParisi Inactive
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    I notice that the ad was paid for by “Newsom for Governor” (I think I have this right). This strikes me as a misapplication of funds, almost to the point of fraud.

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  15. Susan Quinn Contributor
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    PeterParisi (View Comment):

    I notice that the ad was paid for by “Newsom for Governor” (I think I have this right). This strikes me as a misapplication of funds, almost to the point of fraud.

    Because he doesn’t govern like a governor should, or because he will possibly run for President?

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  16. Randy Weivoda Moderator
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    Newsom forgot to mention Freedom to Shoplift.  Those old fashioned, backwards-thinking Floridians are probably still prosecuting it like it’s a crime.

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  17. Cassandro Coolidge
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    You know, lately I’ve been catching a whiff of fresh air. The biggest problem with secession is logistical: millions of people live in progressive cities within conservative states. But if the Dems keep driving out conservatives, and advertising for progressives, maybe the red states will get redder, and the blue states will get bluer, until a preliminary de facto secession by population is already achieved.

    I can dream, can’t I?

    Even Democrats like lower taxes and law and order so they will remain in states that leave. Those who like to raise hell and break things are mostly in democrat cities, and more will have to join them. Presumably so will folks who want welfare if the new states truly go back to basics. The only issue is China’s aggression, but that will only get worse with time and they already own Biden.

    Don’t forget the other arch enemy, the Davos set and the WEF.

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  18. Cassandro Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    They should force everybody to be on an indemnity contract and on concierge medicine. Then you subsidize it as if everybody was on an employer plan.

    Force?  Sorry, you lost me on that one.

    Maybe free up medical insurance companies to provide low-premium, high-deductible catastrophic medical insurance.

    • #48
  19. kedavis Coolidge
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    They should force everybody to be on an indemnity contract and on concierge medicine. Then you subsidize it as if everybody was on an employer plan.

    Force? Sorry, you lost me on that one.

    Maybe free up medical insurance companies to provide low-premium, high-deductible catastrophic medical insurance.

    A common problem and complaint there is that if you don’t deal with smaller stuff when it’s still small, it can easily become catastrophic.

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  20. Joseph Stanko Coolidge
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    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    PeterParisi (View Comment):

    I notice that the ad was paid for by “Newsom for Governor” (I think I have this right). This strikes me as a misapplication of funds, almost to the point of fraud.

    Because he doesn’t govern like a governor should, or because he will possibly run for President?

    I think he means that the funds were raised for the purpose of Newsom’s reelection campaign, and spending them in Florida doesn’t seem to further that goal.

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  21. OwnedByDogs Lincoln
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    @JuliaBlaschke

    He could be a problem because he’ll have a ton of money and a super friendly media that will portray him as the new JFK.  Depends quite a bit on how slick he is, but then again, he’ll probably never have to face any tough questions or even be mildly challenged.

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  22. RufusRJones Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    They should force everybody to be on an indemnity contract and on concierge medicine. Then you subsidize it as if everybody was on an employer plan.

    Force? Sorry, you lost me on that one.

    Maybe free up medical insurance companies to provide low-premium, high-deductible catastrophic medical insurance.

    A common problem and complaint there is that if you don’t deal with smaller stuff when it’s still small, it can easily become catastrophic.

    This is a messy topic. It’s extra messy because we have been screwing this up since 1946. 

    If everybody gets their heads out of you know where, you can throw everybody into one big actuarial pool. Alternatively, you can just kick people to the curb. There are options in between. The VA and employer-based insurance started a disaster that just got worse and worse. Then they invented Medicare. 

    I really don’t mind forcing everybody to buy it or kicking them to the curb if it’s a good deal when you force it. 

    My goal is to drag this discussion out for 10 days. Make it as long as possible. @kedavis I know you won’t let me down. 

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  23. RufusRJones Member
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    They already forced you into Medicare. What do you do now? The ACA forced millions on to Medicaid. 

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  24. Cassandro Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Susan Quinn (View Comment):

    I Walton (View Comment):
    It worked last time and this time it will have to be even more massive but Democrats and some Republicans will believe it was a relatively honest election.

    I guess living in delusion is easier than dealing with cognitive dissonance!

    Knowledge is power, but ignorance is bliss.  It’s a choice.

    (I wish I didn’t know this.)

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  25. Cassandro Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    They should force everybody to be on an indemnity contract and on concierge medicine. Then you subsidize it as if everybody was on an employer plan.

    Force? Sorry, you lost me on that one.

    Maybe free up medical insurance companies to provide low-premium, high-deductible catastrophic medical insurance.

    A common problem and complaint there is that if you don’t deal with smaller stuff when it’s still small, it can easily become catastrophic.

    Forgoing well visits happens regardless, whether you have $10,000 a year insurance or not.  What’s cheaper when you’re young and healthy?  Paying $10,000 a year for an annual physical and medical care that you don’t need and never use?  Or paying $2000 a year for catastrophic insurance and paying $250 once a year for an annual physical?  It should be personal choice.

    Most people don’t go to the doctor anyway except when they are sick.  You should be able to pick and pay for a medical insurance plan that fits your health and financial priorities.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    What we are trying to solve for at this point is very complicated because we’ve gone so many decades doing the wrong thing. 

     

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  27. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    OwnedByDogs (View Comment):

    He could be a problem because he’ll have a ton of money and a super friendly media that will portray him as the new JFK. Depends quite a bit on how slick he is, but then again, he’ll probably never have to face any tough questions or even be mildly challenged.

    Goodness gracious, he could campaign from his basement, from a bomb shelter, or a dude ranch in Montana and the press will still love him. 

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  28. Cassandro Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    My goal is to drag this discussion out for 10 days. Make it as long as possible. @kedavis I know you won’t let me down. 

    Just out of curiosity, how would you go about dragging it out for 10 days?  That seems undoable.

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  29. RufusRJones Member
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    My goal is to drag this discussion out for 10 days. Make it as long as possible. @ kedavis I know you won’t let me down.

    Just out of curiosity, how would you go about dragging it out for 10 days? That seems undoable.

    I am making a ridiculous joke. 

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  30. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    My goal is to drag this discussion out for 10 days. Make it as long as possible. @ kedavis I know you won’t let me down.

    Just out of curiosity, how would you go about dragging it out for 10 days? That seems undoable.

    Highlight the Ukraine/Russia angle to the topic. 

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