Liz Cheney and the J6 Committee Are Dangerous Jokes

 

The walls are closing in! This past week, they had Cassidy Hutchinson talk about her second-hand reports of Trump’s alleged actions on J6. The Secret Service agents who were there contradict her story. Any reputable committee would have asked her about that. In fact, a reputable committee would have not called since the people who were there disagree.

I’m an amateur historian and I know how important primary sources are. Presumably, there are staffers to the J6 committee who are also aware of this. The J6 committee is either incompetent, fraudulent, or both. They don’t care about the truth. They’re a propaganda arm of the Democratic Party.

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  1. Columbo Member
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    BDB (View Comment):

    As people allude to, this is not about Trump — it’s about you. You are not allowed to mention the stolen election, the mutiny and coup, nor the deep-state /intel-community cabal. You will not discuss Ray Epps, open doors, or obvious agents provocateur. You may not protest against the deep state and its appointee lickspittles. Violence in the street against you, your family, and your property is mostly peaceful, but your peaceful protests against tyranny and mutation are dangerous and violent. And you may certainly not ever elect anybody from outside the deep state club of either party.

    The message is clear.

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  2. Columbo Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The idea that it is OK to violate norms, as the Majority Party has in this case, is quite frightening. Anyone supporting the violation of these norms and rules is someone who does not support the rule of law, but the rule of expediency to achieve today’s goal. It is literally a choice of “Might makes Right”.

    And they love the virtue-signalling spotlight!!

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  3. RufusRJones Member
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    Here is my response to ABC “News”. 

     

     

     

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  4. Jim George Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    They were (rightly) expecting the MSM to run with the original charge from Cassidy, and ignore the refutation. Which is what the MSM has mostly done.

    Jim, I always say, based on my experience with the amazing way juries have of coming up with something at least close to the right answer (that definitely includes cases I’ve lost, by the way) , that politicians, academics, media people, Corporate donors, etc., underestimate the wisdom and common sense of the American people at their peril, and I believe they are about to see a dramatic illustration of that in November. 

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  5. Jim George Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    This is so true! Anyone on the Right supporting her is supporting the destruction of the Republic!

    What is amazing to me is how people like Andrew McCarthy are so willing to ignore the destruction of institutional norms by the Democrats, and for Liz to go along with it.

    The need to get Trump is so strong for so many people, they do not care about anything else, including the damage done to America and her institutions.

    TDS. We see more than our fair share of it right here on Ricochet. And with reference to McCarthy, I once had a huge amount of respect for him; read his books and was impressed by his writings and the experience he drew on as an actual, as opposed to the billboard-TV variety, trial lawyer. When I saw that column all but slobbering all over that [_____] and her “testimony” which was right out of a novel–which would have been laughed out of the Editor’s office — I truly could not believe my eyes. TDS, indeed. Guess it’s a job requirement at National Review. 

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  6. Henry Castaigne Member
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    RushBabe49 (View Comment):

    No, the J6 “committee” is the Star Chamber to destroy Donald Trump and his family and associates.

    I think there was some legitimate accusations of a non-sexual nature to be made at Bill Clinton.

    But to address another point, Trump has exposed how incredibly petty and vain everybody else is. I think Trump a flawed narcissus but so many pols aren’t much better.

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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  8. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    philo (View Comment):

    Blatant conspicuous trolling…it’s amazing how much unlimited, uninhibited latitude one can buy around here with a credit card. The sort-of-center-right are definitely not the most principled of whores.

    What does “Center-Right” even mean? Doesn’t sound good.

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  9. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    What does “Center-Right” even mean?

    This is a good question. Does that mean they subtract all of the Pedro Gonzalez philosophy?  Does it mean that they don’t think all of our institutions are a disaster? Does it mean that we haven’t done that many things wrong in the face of wage deflation and job destruction from automation and globalized labor? Does it mean we don’t screw up foreign policy that much?

    I just heard Pedro Gonzalez on Charlie Kirk yesterday. It was actually pretty instructive. 

    I don’t have a big opinion, but those are my questions.

     

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  10. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    What does “Center-Right” even mean?

    This is a good question. Does that mean they subtract all of the Pedro Gonzalez philosophy? Does it mean that they don’t think all of our institutions are a disaster? Does it mean that we haven’t done that many things wrong in the face of wage deflation and job destruction from automation and globalized labor? Does it mean we don’t screw up foreign policy that much?

    Is it “socialism, but at the speed limit”?

     

     

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  11. Cassandro Coolidge
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    I Walton (View Comment):

    It’s amazing how deep and wide total corruption is. Do folks think it’s just about Trump? It’s not. Its about the extreme wealth it generates for some and the power it generates for others. The ideal for Republicans would be, late in the game, for Trump too throw his support to a narrow selection of Republican candidates. The fraud will still be massive but subsequent investigation, and if necessary, cessation might be more possible should Democrats still succeed in stealing the election.

    The problem with secession is that may states are conservative, but they have huge liberal populations condensed into a city or two, and also these cities are pretty much where the power is.  For example, how does Georgia secede while encompassing Atlanta?  Cut off food and water to force conversion to conservative principles?

    And another thing is that even if some states have naval facilities and army and AF bases, and these might be fully staffed by conservatives, how do they get parts from largely big government MIC suppliers?

    And there are other problems.  I have thoughts of how the nation can be restored, but if I can think of it, so can those in power.  As depressing as it is, BDB has come the closest I think to outlining how secession could, or couldn’t, be done in his A Republic of the Heart.

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  12. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):
    What does “Center-Right” even mean?

    This is a good question. Does that mean they subtract all of the Pedro Gonzalez philosophy? Does it mean that they don’t think all of our institutions are a disaster? Does it mean that we haven’t done that many things wrong in the face of wage deflation and job destruction from automation and globalized labor? Does it mean we don’t screw up foreign policy that much?

    Is it “socialism, but at the speed limit”?

     

     

    I get that you are being very thoughtful when you say that, but I don’t think most Republicans get it. And I don’t think we can make a straight line back to HR Gross. What I object to is the way Gary thinks about this stuff. It’s to simplistic and idealistic.

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  13. Columbo Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

     

     

     

    TDS, exposed for all to clearly see. A ‘prosecutor’ who has pre -judged the case. There is no effort to get to the truth.

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  14. Mad Gerald Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment)

    I suggest that you listen yourself to Liz Cheney. Here is her interview from “This Week” yesterday:

    OK, In the interest of being fair I watched the first 6 minutes.  Nothing new here. If anyone cares, I did a partial transcription, leaving out a bunch of “ums”.

    Jonathon Karl: Have these hearings demonstrated that Donald Trump needs to be prosecuted?

    Liz Cheney: Ultimately the Justice Department will decide. I think we may well, as a committee, have a view on that. If you just think about it from the perspective of, what kind of a man, knows that a mob is armed, and sends the mob to attack the capital, and further incites that mob, when his own vice president is under threat…

    LC: The Justice Department doesn’t have to wait to make a criminal referral.

    So, the DOJ could make a criminal referral, regardless of the hearings. 

    Regarding Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony

    JK: People have outright … said Cassidy Hutchinson is not telling the truth about what happened in the presidential motorcade.

    LC: The committee is not going to stand by and watch her character be assassinated by anonymous sources, and by men who are claiming executive privilege, and so we look forward to additional testimony under oath on a whole range of issues.

    JK: Do you have any evidence other than Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony to corroborate what she said happened in that presidential motorcade?

    LC: The committee has significant evidence about a whole range of issues including the president’s intense anger…

    JK: Anger at not being allowed to go to the capital-

    LC:… at that moment. And so let me just leave it there.

    LC: I think we will continue to see in coming days and weeks additional details about the presidents activities and behavior.

     

    JK: So you told me last year, this is a direct quote, “I will do everything I can…”

    … to make sure he is not the nominee. And everything necessary to make sure that he never gets anywhere close to the Oval Office again. [clip ends]

    JK: Have these hearings gotten you closer to that goal, making him toxic and not a viable candidate?

    LC: That’s not the goal of the hearings.

    JK: But you said it was your, your priority.

    LC: I think it’s important but I don’t want you to convey the impression that somehow the hearings are political, cause the goal of the hearings is to make sure the American people understand what happened, to help inform legislation, legislative changes we might need to make.

    Oh.  The hearings aren’t political.  Glad to hear it.

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  15. Cassandro Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    And, there are people on the “right” who will support and cheer it. 

    Prescient, aren’t you.  Look at the next comment.

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  16. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Cassandro (View Comment):
    For example, how does Georgia secede while encompassing Atlanta?  Cut off food and water to force conversion to conservative principles?

    Sounds good to me! 

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  17. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    What I object to is the way Gary thinks about this stuff. It’s to simplistic and idealistic.

    Simplistic, yes. Idealistic? Yes, but towards an ideology is distinctly unAmerican. 

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  18. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    And, there are people on the “right” who will support and cheer it.

    Prescient, aren’t you. Look at the next comment.

    But he isn’t on the right. He’s not even “Center-Right.” At best he’s “Center-left,” but the most accurate description is “Mind-controlled.”

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  19. RufusRJones Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    What I object to is the way Gary thinks about this stuff. It’s to simplistic and idealistic.

    Simplistic, yes. Idealistic? Yes, but towards an ideology is distinctly unAmerican.

    Boiler plate conservative economics even though we are way past that. Boiler plate civics even though that’s obviously all wrong. Not skeptical about foreign policy mistakes.

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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    What I object to is the way Gary thinks about this stuff. It’s to simplistic and idealistic.

    Simplistic, yes. Idealistic? Yes, but towards an ideology is distinctly unAmerican.

    Boiler plate conservative economics even though we are way past that. Boiler plate civics even though that’s obviously all wrong. Not skeptical about foreign policy mistakes.

    So basically, “Griller-cons.”

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  21. Caryn Thatcher
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Here is my response to ABC “News”.

     

     

     

    Is this really you?

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  22. Cassandro Coolidge
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):
    For example, how does Georgia secede while encompassing Atlanta? Cut off food and water to force conversion to conservative principles?

    Sounds good to me!

    COL (chuckle out loud).  With Atlanta’s 5 million people, if food and water were severely limited I would foresee riots, burning, and armed robbery at the very least.  In other words, the cities and the suburbs would burn.

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  23. RufusRJones Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    Here is my response to ABC “News”.

     

     

     

    Is this really you?

    Rufus passed away in the early 90s. I was absolutely addicted to watching him when I was a kid. lol 

     

    One time he was losing and I was getting really upset. Then the bad guy made the mistake of hitting him over the head with a folding chair. He woke up and pinned the bad guy in like five seconds. lol 

     

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  24. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):
    For example, how does Georgia secede while encompassing Atlanta? Cut off food and water to force conversion to conservative principles?

    Sounds good to me!

    COL (chuckle out loud). With Atlanta’s 5 million people, if food and water were severely limited I would foresee riots, burning, and armed robbery at the very least. In other words, the cities and the suburbs would burn.

    I am armed. And trust me, the suburbs are not with the city.

    Outside the Perimiter people are different. 

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  25. Cassandro Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    And, there are people on the “right” who will support and cheer it.

    Prescient, aren’t you. Look at the next comment.

    But he isn’t on the right. He’s not even “Center-Right.” At best he’s “Center-left,” but the most accurate description is “Mind-controlled.”

    Well.  Bryan did use quotes around the word right.

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  26. RufusRJones Member
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    Say something original about public policy. 

    What are David Stockman, Pedro Gonzalez, Pat Buchanan, Mises.org, etc wrong on? 

    There is not a straight line back to Rep. H.R. Gross.

    How did this happen? —-> 

     

     

    https://mises.org/wire/were-living-age-capital-consumption

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    http://financialrepressionauthority.com/2017/07/26/the-roundtable-insight-george-bragues-on-how-the-financial-markets-are-influenced-by-politics/

     

     

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  27. RufusRJones Member
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    The greatest human beings that have ever lived in order:

    Don Rickles

    Sherman Hemsley

    Joan Rivers

    G. Gordon Liddy.

    Rufus R. Jones

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  28. Gary Robbins Member
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    You could have had a completely independent “9/11 Commission” to investigate January 6th, but Trump vetoed the idea of it and McCarthy and McConnell fell into line.

    You could have had five Republicans on the Select Committee, but McCarthy had to nominate Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, and then withdrew the other 3 Republicans.

    Since you are tired to Liz Cheney, how about some Adam Kinzinger?

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  29. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    You could have had a completely independent “9/11 Commission” to investigate January 6th, but Trump vetoed the idea of it and McCarthy and McConnell fell into line.

    You could have had five Republicans on the Select Committee, but McCarthy had to nominate Jim Jordan and Jim Banks, and then withdrew the other 3 Republicans.

    Since you are tired to Liz Cheney, how about some Adam Kinzinger?

    Trump was president for fifteen days after 1/6. He couldn’t veto anything with respect to a commission in that short time span. Let’s see all of Pelosi’s emails leading up to 1/6 and all of the video they’re hiding. And let’s have the FBI and DOJ come clean about what agents and provocateurs they had in the crowd. For example, the need to find out more about the curious case of Ray Epps. And why is there no progress about the pipe bombs.

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  30. RufusRJones Member
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    @garyrobbins

    Mitt Romney in the Atlantic:

    President Joe Biden is a genuinely good man, but he has yet been unable to break through our national malady of denial, deceit, and distrust. A return of Donald Trump would feed the sickness, probably rendering it incurable. Congress is particularly disappointing: Our elected officials put a finger in the wind more frequently than they show backbone against it. Too often, Washington demonstrates the maxim that for evil to thrive only requires good men to do nothing.

     

    climate

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/mitt-romney-republican-denial-biden-election/661468/

    Yeah I don’t think I want Mitt Romney to have more power than Mike Lee. That makes zero sense.

     

     

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