The Democrats Are a Threat to Our Constitution

 

Biden set up a committee to consider court-packing. A new more sinister form of it emerged in the last week with the threat to murder Justice Kavanaugh.

Other Supreme Court justices have been threatened and the Biden administration has said nothing about it. The Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer threatened Kavanaugh and his colleagues said nothing. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has blocked a bill to provide security for Supreme Court justices.

We face an existential crisis. The assassination of a Justice would be far worse than the caning of Senator Sumner by Representative Brooks. But our leaders are mute. An insurrection is brewing but they don’t care because they can’t blame it on Trump.

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  1. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    TBA (View Comment):

    Is there a word for someone who lies about someone else lying?

    Slanderer.

    • #61
  2. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    TBA (View Comment):

    Is there a word for someone who lies about someone else lying?

    “Liar” works.

    Unfortunately, if you call a liar a liar you get redacted. You can’t even call him a banana.

    • #62
  3. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    TBA (View Comment):

    Is there a word for someone who lies about someone else lying?

    Lying liar who lies?

    • #63
  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary, you are using an enthymeme. You keep saying that Trump told some heinous lies, and therefore he’s a big problem, a threat to the Constitution, etc.

    Your unstated premise is the one that tells us exactly what Trump said that was a lie. Why don’t you tell us what the premise is?

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was rigged, then the Hemingway book shows that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that there was a lot of fraud, then the currently available evidence indicates that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that illegal actions flipped swing states, then the currently available evidence indicates that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was stolen electronically, then we need to talk. We need to talk about how electronic fraud is actually plausible, and then figure out what sort of evidence there is either for against it happening in 2020.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that the Senate should not have certified the Electoral College vote, then he was not lying since he honestly believed it, but at least I can agree with you that he was mistaken.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that the election was stolen when Dominion applied an algorithm and the voters “broke the algorithm” before some jerks brought in some fake ballots or whatever, then maybe that was a mistake, but it wasn’t a lie because he believed it.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that we knew all that stuff at the time, then maybe that was a lie.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was stolen, then we need to talk. We have to talk about what he meant by “stolen” and whether it was a true statement after all.

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    He lied, okay? Just admit it.

    And then you don’t have to go to Camp.

    ???

    Re-education camp, where they “teach you” that he lied.  Until  you get it right.

    • #64
  5. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    • #65
  6. TBA Coolidge
    TBA
    @RobtGilsdorf

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie. 

    • #66
  7. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    • #67
  8. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    • #68
  9. Gary Robbins Member
    Gary Robbins
    @GaryRobbins

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary, an enthymeme is an argument with an unstated step, usually an unstated premise.

    Aristotle explains that enthymemes can be useful rhetorically. You don’t have to spell out every step, talk like a robot, and lose your audience. Sometimes, it’s ok to say “The defendant was seen at the pier on the night of the crime, and therefore did not commit the murder” without explicitly telling people who already know the local geography that the pier is a long way from the crime scene.

    But enthymemes have a dark side.

    Obama gave us a fine example of a bad enthymeme. He used to diss McCain by saying he agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time. The whole argument against McCain depended on the premise Obama didn’t say out loud–the premise that talks about how often Bush was actually wrong. If it was that Bush is wrong 100% of the time, then the premises of the argument do a good job beating up McCain, but one premise is ridiculous: No one is wrong 100% of the time. If it was that Bush is only wrong 65% of the time, then the argument only establishes that McCain is wrong 58.5% of the time. But whatever it was, if we said it out loud, then we’d start thinking for ourselves instead of doing what Obama wanted, which was to scurry along from the conclusion that McCain is wrong a lot into an enthusiastic vote for his opponent.

    Obama had to keep it quiet just how often Bush was wrong. If he let it out into the open, then it would be easy to see two things:

    1. There’s no general agreement on how often Bush was wrong, and therefore no clarity on how powerful Obama’s argument against McCain was.

    2. The most powerful versions of Obama’s argument would rely on an obviously false premise.

    Gary, you are using an enthymeme. You keep saying that Trump told some heinous lies, and therefore he’s a big problem, a threat to the Constitution, etc.

    Your unstated premise is the one that tells us exactly what Trump said that was a lie. Why don’t you tell us what the premise is?

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was rigged, then the Hemingway book shows that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that there was a lot of fraud, then the currently available evidence indicates that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that illegal actions flipped swing states, then the currently available evidence indicates that your premise is false.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was stolen electronically, then we need to talk. We need to talk about how electronic fraud is actually plausible, and then figure out what sort of evidence there is either for or against it happening in 2020.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that the Senate should not have certified the Electoral College vote, then he was not lying since he honestly believed it, but at least I can agree with you that he was mistaken.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that the election was stolen when Dominion applied an algorithm and the voters “broke the algorithm” before some jerks brought in some fake ballots or whatever, then maybe that was a mistake, but it wasn’t a lie because he believed it.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said that we knew all that stuff at the time, then maybe that was a lie.

    If the premise is that Trump lied when he said the election was stolen, then we need to talk. We have to talk about what he meant by “stolen” and whether it was a true statement after all.

    YARN | What do they teach in schools these days? | The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) | Video clips by quotes | f1aac9dd | 紗

    Wow.  I am going to have to think about this.

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts.  Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer.  His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    • #69
  10. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary, an enthymeme is an argument with an unstated step, usually an unstated premise.

    Aristotle explains that enthymemes can be useful rhetorically. You don’t have to spell out every step, talk like a robot, and lose your audience. Sometimes, it’s ok to say “The defendant was seen at the pier on the night of the crime, and therefore did not commit the murder” without explicitly telling people who already know the local geography that the pier is a long way from the crime scene.

    But enthymemes have a dark side.

    Obama gave us a fine example of a bad enthymeme. He used to diss McCain by saying he agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time. The whole argument against McCain depended on the premise Obama didn’t say out loud–the premise that talks about how often Bush was actually wrong. If it was that Bush is wrong 100% of the time, then the premises of the argument do a good job beating up McCain, but one premise is ridiculous: No one is wrong 100% of the time. If it was that Bush is only wrong 65% of the time, then the argument only establishes that McCain is wrong 58.5% of the time. But whatever it was, if we said it out loud, then we’d start thinking for ourselves instead of doing what Obama wanted, which was to scurry along from the conclusion that McCain is wrong a lot into an enthusiastic vote for his opponent.

     

    YARN | What do they teach in schools these days? | The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) | Video clips by quotes | f1aac9dd | 紗

    Wow. I am going to have to think about this.

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts. Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer. His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    I got to five minutes before I was disgusted. The 60 cases lie again. You can’t prove a case if you never get a hearing. Duh!

    How many times did we see actual videos of GOP poll watchers being kept at a distance, or of windows being blocked with cardboard so no one could actually see what was happening? This guy didn’t mention that at all. I’ll believe my lying eyes instead of him. 

    • #70
  11. Bob Thompson Member
    Bob Thompson
    @BobThompson

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary, an enthymeme is an argument with an unstated step, usually an unstated premise.

    Aristotle explains that enthymemes can be useful rhetorically. You don’t have to spell out every step, talk like a robot, and lose your audience. Sometimes, it’s ok to say “The defendant was seen at the pier on the night of the crime, and therefore did not commit the murder” without explicitly telling people who already know the local geography that the pier is a long way from the crime scene.

    But enthymemes have a dark side.

    Obama gave us a fine example of a bad enthymeme. He used to diss McCain by saying he agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time. The whole argument against McCain depended on the premise Obama didn’t say out loud–the premise that talks about how often Bush was actually wrong. If it was that Bush is wrong 100% of the time, then the premises of the argument do a good job beating up McCain, but one premise is ridiculous: No one is wrong 100% of the time. If it was that Bush is only wrong 65% of the time, then the argument only establishes that McCain is wrong 58.5% of the time. But whatever it was, if we said it out loud, then we’d start thinking for ourselves instead of doing what Obama wanted, which was to scurry along from the conclusion that McCain is wrong a lot into an enthusiastic vote for his opponent.

    YARN | What do they teach in schools these days? | The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) | Video clips by quotes | f1aac9dd | 紗

    Wow. I am going to have to think about this.

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts. Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer. His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    I got to five minutes before I was disgusted. The 60 cases lie again. You can’t prove a case if you never get a hearing. Duh!

    How many times did we see actual videos of GOP poll watchers being kept at a distance, or of windows being blocked with cardboard so no one could actually see what was happening? This guy didn’t mention that at all. I’ll believe my lying eyes instead of him.

    How many were refused for “no standing” or “untimely”?

    • #71
  12. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary, an enthymeme is an argument with an unstated step, usually an unstated premise.

    Aristotle explains that enthymemes can be useful rhetorically. You don’t have to spell out every step, talk like a robot, and lose your audience. Sometimes, it’s ok to say “The defendant was seen at the pier on the night of the crime, and therefore did not commit the murder” without explicitly telling people who already know the local geography that the pier is a long way from the crime scene.

    But enthymemes have a dark side.

    Obama gave us a fine example of a bad enthymeme. He used to diss McCain by saying he agreed with George W. Bush 90% of the time. The whole argument against McCain depended on the premise Obama didn’t say out loud–the premise that talks about how often Bush was actually wrong. If it was that Bush is wrong 100% of the time, then the premises of the argument do a good job beating up McCain, but one premise is ridiculous: No one is wrong 100% of the time. If it was that Bush is only wrong 65% of the time, then the argument only establishes that McCain is wrong 58.5% of the time. But whatever it was, if we said it out loud, then we’d start thinking for ourselves instead of doing what Obama wanted, which was to scurry along from the conclusion that McCain is wrong a lot into an enthusiastic vote for his opponent.

     

    YARN | What do they teach in schools these days? | The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) | Video clips by quotes | f1aac9dd | 紗

    Wow. I am going to have to think about this.

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts. Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer. His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    I got to five minutes before I was disgusted. The 60 cases lie again. You can’t prove a case if you never get a hearing. Duh!

    How many times did we see actual videos of GOP poll watchers being kept at a distance, or of windows being blocked with cardboard so no one could actually see what was happening? This guy didn’t mention that at all. I’ll believe my lying eyes instead of him.

    How many were refused for “no standing”?

    In other words, they weren’t “lost,” they were never HEARD.

    • #72
  13. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    • #73
  14. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts.  Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer.  His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    “Trump campaign did not make its case in court”?

    If that is the conclusion, it is pretty much by definition profoundly underwhelming in the face of the evidence I have jotted down. It’s not quite even on the same topic.

    • #74
  15. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    I can accept that some people can be lying even if they don’t understand it themselves.  The stakes are too high to tolerate false statements from people who should know better, but refuse to.

    • #75
  16. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    I can accept that some people can be lying even if they don’t understand it themselves. The stakes are too high to tolerate false statements from people who should know better, but refuse to.

    Sure, if lying to oneself is the first step in a lie. I’m ok with that description.

    • #76
  17. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    I want to quickly address the issue of fraud and the courts. Benjamin Ginsberg is the leading Republican election lawyer. His 8 minute clip on the second day of the January 6th Committee hearing is overwhelming.

    “Trump campaign did not make its case in court”?

    If that is the conclusion, it is pretty much be definition profoundly underwhelming in the fact of the evidence I have jotted down.

    The first step is, was the Trump campaign ALLOWED TO make its case in court?  “Did not make its case” is at best a half-truth.

    • #77
  18. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Is there a word for someone who lies about someone else lying?

    “Liar” works.

    Unfortunately, if you call a liar a liar you get redacted. You can’t even call him a banana.

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    No, I think he knows, he just thinks he’s justified.

    • #78
  19. Django Member
    Django
    @Django

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    It is interesting if you have ever personally experienced “denial”. It is not that you consciously decide to refuse to believe something. It is completely different. You just don’t see the obvious. If someone forces you to see it, your first response is anger. If you are an adult, that passes quickly and you say to yourself, “So that’s what denial means.”

    Yes, I speak from experience, but don’t care to say more. 

    • #79
  20. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    I can accept that some people can be lying even if they don’t understand it themselves. The stakes are too high to tolerate false statements from people who should know better, but refuse to.

    Sure, if lying to oneself is the first step in a lie. I’m ok with that description.

    That’s one option, another is if – say – you tell someone they’re wrong about something, and they should look it up.  But they refuse to look it up, so they can continue to say what they’ve been saying without “knowing” that it’s false, and hence they can claim “not a lie.”

    • #80
  21. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    What you all are saying is that he is not mentally fit to know the truth, even when it’s explained to him.  That’s a pretty big deal to assert.  I think he knows and doesn’t care to tell the truth. It’s a much punier failing.

    • #81
  22. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    What you all are saying is that he is not mentally fit to know the truth, even when it’s explained to him. That’s a pretty big deal to assert. I think he knows and doesn’t care to tell the truth. It’s a much punier failing.

    None of us is mentally fit to know all truths. That doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.

    • #82
  23. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    What you all are saying is that he is not mentally fit to know the truth, even when it’s explained to him. That’s a pretty big deal to assert. I think he knows and doesn’t care to tell the truth. It’s a much punier failing.

    That’s possible.  But I think something in being a lawyer allows for not letting the truth in, so you can continue to say what you want and claim it’s not “lying.”  Perhaps especially because [standard response the mods have told me to stop using].

    • #83
  24. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Gary isn’t lying, guys.

    Are you sure? I keep hearing about a Big Lie.

    Some things Trump said weren’t true. He believed them, so he wasn’t lying when he said them.

    Some things Gary says aren’t true. He believes them, so he isn’t lying when he says them.

    Except when shown to be untrue, repeating them anyway then becomes lying.

    Not when a mental block prevents the comprehension of the demonstration of the untruth.

    What you all are saying is that he is not mentally fit to know the truth, even when it’s explained to him. That’s a pretty big deal to assert. I think he knows and doesn’t care to tell the truth. It’s a much punier failing.

    None of us is mentally fit to know all truths. That doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.

    I guess I might as well respond in general.  No one is saying that people have to know the nature of the soul, or the exact mass of the universe, or anything like that.  No one is saying anyone should know all truths.  But there are some truths that are reasonably provable.

    Stipulating for civility’s sake that someone is simply inclined to be less than candid is less insulting than saying that someone is mentally or emotionally incapable of discerning the truth.

    • #84
  25. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    But there are some truths that are reasonably provable.

    Yes, and I doubt any of us know all of them.

    Stipulating for civility’s sake that someone is simply inclined to be less than candid is less insulting than saying that someone is mentally or emotionally incapable of discerning the truth.

    Well, I’d certainly rather be called a person with a mental block or a blind spot than a liar.

    But in this case I’m not entirely sure I even care what’s more insulting. I do care what’s true.

    • #85
  26. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    But there are some truths that are reasonably provable.

    Yes, and I doubt any of us know all of them.

    So you’re saying that because you can’t know all of them, that you can’t know 20 of them.

    • #86
  27. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    But there are some truths that are reasonably provable.

    Yes, and I doubt any of us know all of them.

    So you’re saying that because you can’t know all of them, that you can’t know 20 of them.

    I’m pretty sure I’m saying nothing of the sort. What are you talking about? That’s one thing I don’t know.

    • #87
  28. Cassandro Coolidge
    Cassandro
    @Flicker

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Cassandro (View Comment):

    But there are some truths that are reasonably provable.

    Yes, and I doubt any of us know all of them.

    So you’re saying that because you can’t know all of them, that you can’t know 20 of them.

    I’m pretty sure I’m saying nothing of the sort. What are you talking about? That’s one thing I don’t know.

    It’s not important.

    • #88
  29. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    I got to five minutes before I was disgusted. The 60 cases lie again. You can’t prove a case if you never get a hearing. Duh!

    How many times did we see actual videos of GOP poll watchers being kept at a distance, or of windows being blocked with cardboard so no one could actually see what was happening? This guy didn’t mention that at all. I’ll believe my lying eyes instead of him.

    How many were refused for “no standing”?

    In other words, they weren’t “lost,” they were never HEARD.

    I’m pretty sure the Nevers understand this, but their programming is hardwired and cannot be overwritten.

    • #89
  30. David C. Broussard Coolidge
    David C. Broussard
    @Dbroussa

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    We have had only one incumbent President in our 233 years who refused to accept his loss at the ballot box

    You seem to forget Samuel Tilden

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