Does the Sussman Trial Cause Any Regret at All?

 

From RealClearPolitics on Thursday:

Baker’s testimony was followed, on Friday, by that of Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook. Mook casually (perhaps inadvertently) dropped a bombshell. Hillary Clinton, he said, had personally approved sharing the Trump-Alfa Bank story with the press. Mook said the campaign wasn’t sure if the story was true but figured the press would look into it. Hillary agreed and approved spreading the false story.

But Mook cannot be right when he says “the campaign” didn’t know if the Alfa Bank story was true. Mook may not have known, but others in the campaign surely did since they were the ones who created the false story. They expended campaign funds to generate that dishonest “inference and narrative” about Trump and Alfa Bank from internet data, knowing it would fool only naïve FBI agents and reporters. Real cyber experts could – and did – disprove the “inference” almost immediately.

Without a doubt, this was the Democratic Party using the levers of government to go after its opponents. For every person on the right who complained loud and long about the threat to the Republic by Trump, where are those voices now?

Those of us willing to overlook mean tweets (or enjoy them, which I admit too) were able to see how this was all a setup at the time. It was painfully clear because our eyes were not clouded. We are owed apologies by the people screeching that Trump was a threat to democracy.

We won’t get it.

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    And that turned out so well!  Congratulations!

    • #31
  2. spaceman_spiff Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    And that turned out so well! Congratulations!

    So no apologies for January 6th. Congratulations!

    • #32
  3. spaceman_spiff Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the  time.

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  4. RufusRJones Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the time.

    OMG that is one thing out of many bad ones. Every single institution except for the Supreme Court is failing from a libertarian or conservative point of view. Enabling Democrats doesn’t work. Scoop Jackson is gone and he is never coming back.

     

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    And that turned out so well! Congratulations!

    So no apologies for January 6th. Congratulations!

    Do I need to apologize for anything?  I wasn’t there, and the people who WERE there were let in by Capitol Police et al.

    Also, January 6th happened AFTER – and very likely BECAUSE OF – what is increasingly known to be a bogus election.  Unless you can somehow prove that it would have happened anyway even if Trump had won re-election, that’s bogus too.

    Or I should say, unless you can prove that it would have happened the same way, with the same people.  There’s some good chance that something would have happened from the Left, if Trump had won, but we’ve seen that the Left – Antifa, BLM, etc – don’t just walk into buildings and stay inside the ropes.  They don’t even just SAY “threatening” things, if that’s the worst you’ve got.  The Left loots, and burns, and kills…

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  6. spaceman_spiff Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the time.

    OMG that is one thing out of many bad ones. Every single institution except for the Supreme Court is failing from a libertarian or conservative point of view. Enabling Democrats doesn’t work. Scoop Jackson is gone and he is never coming back.

     

    I remember welfare reform, a ban on assault weapons that was allowed to expire, balanced budgets. We have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court because of successive conservative victories. If you don’t want things to not always move left, you need to not start with your surrender.

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  7. RufusRJones Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the time.

    OMG that is one thing out of many bad ones. Every single institution except for the Supreme Court is failing from a libertarian or conservative point of view. Enabling Democrats doesn’t work. Scoop Jackson is gone and he is never coming back.

     

    I remember welfare reform, a ban on assault weapons that was allowed to expire, balanced budgets. We have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court because of successive conservative victories. If you don’t want things to not always move left, you need to not start with your surrender.

    I don’t buy that in aggregate this is working out. 

    What year are you talking about balanced budgets? If you are talking about during the NASDAQ bubble you are kidding yourself. The loft can’t make an argument about guns. Big deal. 

    If the economy is getting more regressive all of the time, which it is, it doesn’t matter a hell of a lot about welfare reform. Getting rid of the ACA was a slam dunk. What was the problem?

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  8. RufusRJones Member
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    And that turned out so well! Congratulations!

    So no apologies for January 6th. Congratulations!

    Trump had some bad civics posturing about what Pence should be doing. Trump didn’t cause the riot.

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  9. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures. 

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

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  10. RufusRJones Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    This is well said. We are decades past the point when you can control spending. The asset bubble needs to be kept intact or that party loses power. You need to do other libertarian things particularly with fossil fuel. My God this is terrible.

    • #40
  11. RufusRJones Member
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    Spaceman is a lot better at this than Gary but everything is like Lois Lerner and the IRS. Look at what Durham has found it and he hasn’t even finished yet. 

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  12. spaceman_spiff Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    Maybe it seems like that if you’re only looking at one side.  But if you’re allowing a naturally-booming economy and energy production etc, spending isn’t as big of a deal as it is if you’re clamping down on the economy and clamping down on energy production etc, while spending even more.  aka, Biden et al.

    • #43
  14. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    • #44
  15. Instugator Thatcher
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    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):
    She will not be punished, but her dead career will stay dead.

    Ding Dong the witch is dead!

    • #45
  16. Cassandro Coolidge
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    Manny (View Comment):

    I’ve been saying this for a couple of years now, ever since the hoax was known. People need to go to jail for this. Hillary, Comey, somebody big. You cannot frame a sitting president and get away with it. This should be huge. It astounds me that it’s not a bigger issue than it is.

    To be more specific, law enforcement, the intelligence agencies, and the DOJ shouldn’t frame a president, and would deserve jail time.  (The NYT or NT Post are legally allowed.)

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  17. Cassandro Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    hoowitts (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    I’ve been saying this for a couple of years now, ever since the hoax was known. People need to go to jail for this. Hillary, Comey, somebody big. You cannot frame a sitting president and get away with it. This should be huge. It astounds me that it’s not a bigger issue than it is.

    So on point Manny. Problem is, precedent was set in 2015/2016 to get away with this – Obama & FBI FISA warrant fraud was simply swept under the rug. This abuse of power should have outraged everyone. Even with control of the executive and legislatures, barely a peep from GOPe. Crickets. But they’ll celebrate John McCain’s courage to get out of a hospital bed to spitefully vote against repealing Obamacare. Go team GOP! Yeah, give me a break.

    Recall the scenario:

    A sitting, lame duck president (Obama), weaponizes his DOJ (Comey) to LIE to the most secretive court (FISA) in our justice dept; to obtain the most permissive warrant available to federal investigators; in order to wiretap and spy on the opposing party’s presidential team (Carter Page) and candidate (Donald Trump) during an active election.

    Outrageous! Even Tom Clancy wouldn’t write something so brazen and expect you to believe it. Seriously – Watergate seems juvenile and feeble by comparison. Chuck Colson goes to jail but these scoundrels get promoted with TV and book gigs.

    And to echo Bryan’s point:

    Bryan G. Stephens: We are owed apologies by the people screeching

    What galls me is absolutely no contrition. EVER. How many scandals and deceptions:

    FISA Abuses
    Russia collusion strategy
    Mueller investigation
    Two unqualified president impeachments
    IRS targeting conservatives
    Russian Uranium deal
    Benghazi & Afghanistan debacles
    Ukraine donations to Hillary’s foundation
    Iran deal & cash
    Fast & furious guns
    Solyndra fraud

    This just scratches the surface. It doesn’t even account for MSM complicity and outright lies. And to think, they came up with a Disinformation Governance Board. But Trump is a threat to the republic? And they wonder why we are angry. Sheesh.

    I love this. 1 million likes

    I was going to recopy it myself, but I see you just did.  Oops.  I did it anyway.

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  18. Cassandro Coolidge
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    I Walton (View Comment):
    It can’t be done.  We succeeded because we were bottom up and we will fail even faster and more profoundly if we are run from the top by any party.  

    There’s another reason.  Bribery is built in now, with committee seats for sale by the party leadership, and the only way to pay for them is through scamming businesses and interest groups for fungible campaign donations.

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  19. Cassandro Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the time.

    OMG that is one thing out of many bad ones. Every single institution except for the Supreme Court is failing from a libertarian or conservative point of view. Enabling Democrats doesn’t work. Scoop Jackson is gone and he is never coming back.

    But Reagan is still a viable force.  (Don’t forget that.)

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  20. Cassandro Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    Exactly.

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  21. hoowitts Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    So…SO correct. I haven’t been introduced to this idiom- Repressive Tolerance. Greatness.

    Expected politeness is so easily manipulated. Politeness is not a first order virtue… truth and courage are.

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  22. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    hoowitts (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    So…SO correct. I haven’t been introduced to this idiom- Repressive Tolerance. Greatness.

    Expected politeness is so easily manipulated. Politeness is not a first order virtue… truth and courage are.

    Its not an Idiom. Repressive Tolerance is from Herbert Mancuse, published in the 1965 book “A Critique of Pure Tolerance”… Its a legitimate communications strategy of the democrat party – and has been for decades…

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  23. The Reticulator Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    This is well said. We are decades past the point when you can control spending. The asset bubble needs to be kept intact or that party loses power. You need to do other libertarian things particularly with fossil fuel. My God this is terrible.

    You can either vote for Republicans, who give large budget increases to abusive federal agencies, or you can vote for Democrats, who give very large budget increases to abusive federal agencies.  

    • #53
  24. OccupantCDN Coolidge
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    This is well said. We are decades past the point when you can control spending. The asset bubble needs to be kept intact or that party loses power. You need to do other libertarian things particularly with fossil fuel. My God this is terrible.

    No all bubbles pop at some point anyway, its better to control the unwinding of assets so that it doesnt destroy the world. (I know probably too late for that too)

    But Biden made the inflation much worse by radically expanding the money supply – by 6 trillion dollars in the past 2 years – while at the same time restricting production, distribution of goods… He designed this inflationary economy.

    • #54
  25. spaceman_spiff Member
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    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    Everything Moves Left All Of The Time

    Roe is on the verge of being overturned. Everything doesn’t move left all of the time.

    OMG that is one thing out of many bad ones. Every single institution except for the Supreme Court is failing from a libertarian or conservative point of view. Enabling Democrats doesn’t work. Scoop Jackson is gone and he is never coming back.

    I remember welfare reform, a ban on assault weapons that was allowed to expire, balanced budgets. We have a conservative majority on the Supreme Court because of successive conservative victories. If you don’t want things to not always move left, you need to not start with your surrender.

    I don’t buy that in aggregate this is working out.

    What year are you talking about balanced budgets? If you are talking about during the NASDAQ bubble you are kidding yourself.

    The Nasdaq, S&P 500 and the Dow are way higher today and we don’t have a balanced budget. Somebody is kidding themself. It ain’t me.

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  26. spaceman_spiff Member
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    This is well said. We are decades past the point when you can control spending. The asset bubble needs to be kept intact or that party loses power. You need to do other libertarian things particularly with fossil fuel. My God this is terrible.

    No all bubbles pop at some point anyway, its better to control the unwinding of assets so that it doesnt destroy the world. (I know probably too late for that too)

    But Biden made the inflation much worse by radically expanding the money supply – by 6 trillion dollars in the past 2 years – while at the same time restricting production, distribution of goods… He designed this inflationary economy.

    Biden tried to increase spending by that much. He came up short. He still spent too much but not as much as you claim. The president doesn’t expand the money supply. The Fed does. 

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  27. Cassandro Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    Except he was a threat to democracy on January 6th. How many apologies did we get for that travesty? I didn’t vote for him but I was glad he beat Hillary. I despise Biden but if Trump had been re-elected, he would have felt vindicated and there was a lot about his presidency I didn’t want to vindicate.

    Some of his policies were good. (But if today’s runaway inflation worries you, Trump helped that along as much as anyone.) I never called myself NeverTrump. I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base. Those of us who didn’t find his neverending tweets helpful were effectively told to piss up a rope. Surprise! I ended up not voting for him!

    I have to disagree.

    I think Trump should be vindicated. The charges against him have all been proven to be lies. The victim of false accusations should be granted vindication, otherwise you end up in a Reign of Terror. The first lair is the last to the guillotine.

    Trump’s policies where as much deflationary as inflationary. While the reckless covid relief spending was a terrible policy and terribly implemented, his focus on deregulation and energy production could have reduced some of the inflationary pressures.

    There would be some inflation – but in a Trump second term – it wouldn’t have been as bad.

    This is well said. We are decades past the point when you can control spending. The asset bubble needs to be kept intact or that party loses power. You need to do other libertarian things particularly with fossil fuel. My God this is terrible.

    No all bubbles pop at some point anyway, its better to control the unwinding of assets so that it doesnt destroy the world. (I know probably too late for that too)

    But Biden made the inflation much worse by radically expanding the money supply – by 6 trillion dollars in the past 2 years – while at the same time restricting production, distribution of goods… He designed this inflationary economy.

    Again, I ask, as I do more and more often: Incompetence and coincidence?  Or malice.

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  28. hoowitts Coolidge
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    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    hoowitts (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    So…SO correct. I haven’t been introduced to this idiom- Repressive Tolerance. Greatness.

    Expected politeness is so easily manipulated. Politeness is not a first order virtue… truth and courage are.

    Its not an Idiom. Repressive Tolerance is from Herbert Mancuse, published in the 1965 book “A Critique of Pure Tolerance”… Its a legitimate communications strategy of the democrat party – and has been for decades…

    Marcuse, Habermas, Fromm…Frankfurt School…Marxist Critical Theories. Evil geniuses.

    How do we wake up the masses that have bought into this ‘regressive tolerance’ without sending the population into rightwing fascism (according to Frankfurt School) ? That is their trump card, no pun intended. The fear of Nazism was the origins of this school of critical theory.

    Are we really facing a national, violent rightwing movement  if our culture rejects such hateful critical theory? 

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    hoowitts (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    hoowitts (View Comment):

    OccupantCDN (View Comment):

    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):
    With respect to the Russia stuff, yes, but there was a LOT more to his presidency than that. His fiscal policy was worse than even Obama’s which is feeding our current inflation.

    ohhh! the mean tweets … stop the meany! As if Biden or Obama is any kinder…

    IF Romney had the tiniest fraction of New York street fighter of Trump – he would have been president. This is another case of Repressive Tolerance. Any false vindictive vulgar attack a leftist makes is just fine – any right wing response is beyond the pale of polite society… This is not just a double standard this a rhetorical tactic.

    So…SO correct. I haven’t been introduced to this idiom- Repressive Tolerance. Greatness.

    Expected politeness is so easily manipulated. Politeness is not a first order virtue… truth and courage are.

    Its not an Idiom. Repressive Tolerance is from Herbert Mancuse, published in the 1965 book “A Critique of Pure Tolerance”… Its a legitimate communications strategy of the democrat party – and has been for decades…

    Marcuse, Habermas, Fromm…Frankfurt School…Marxist Critical Theories. Evil geniuses.

    How do we wake up the masses that have bought into this ‘regressive tolerance’ without sending the population into rightwing fascism (according to Frankfurt School) ? That is their trump card, no pun intended. The fear of Nazism was the origins of this school of critical theory.

    Are we really facing a national, violent rightwing movement if our culture rejects such hateful critical theory?

    Seems more likely to me that the hateful critical theory etc causes any violent right-wing movement that might come, as a backlash.

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  30. lowtech redneck Coolidge
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    spaceman_spiff (View Comment):

    I was always a “gettable” vote but neither Trump nor his supporters were interested in winning my support. His strategy was an obsessive appeal to his base.

    In other words, you’re not especially fond of the conservative base, and don’t believe the Democrats (who had just spent a year promoting a terroristic hate movement that was burning down cities and killing people) are all that bad.

    It seems like your vote was only ‘gettable’ at too high a price, if the events of 2020 alone were not enough for you-its better to recruit people who are mugged by reality than people who see reality*, but don’t care.

    *An assumption based on your participation on conservative platforms.

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