Are They Really This Stupid?

 

One straightforward, easy-to-implement security measure for schools is establishing a single, controlled point of entry. This way, a would-be mass murderer would be stopped from entering the school. The schools my kids attended had this. There was an anteroom in the high school with a CCTV. No one could gain access during school hours unless buzzed in by the front office.

Leftists in the media seem to think this would mean there was literally only one door in an entire school building. Are they really so stupid that the concept of multiple other exit doors that cannot be opened from the outside does not exist for them. Put another way, the elite, blue-checked left seemingly does not know how doors work.

And of course, the Bulwark is also part of the “We’re too stupid to know how doors work” party.

I think some of them really are this stupid. The rest are focused on the objective of disarming lawful gun owners, and are not interested in any safety measures that don’t move toward that goal.

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  1. I Walton Member
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    Doors and locks are no brainers.  What I don’t understand is why we allow teachers unions and bureaucrats to run our schools.  In states run by Republicans we should just put public schools in the hands of teachers and parents.  If parents control their own tuition and are free to send their kids wherever they qualify, in other words any school anywhere,  competition will establish what parents want and schools with good teachers will grow, schools that refuse to fire lousy teachers will die.  It’s just a way to allow parents, especially those who live in neighborhoods with lousy schools  to choose better schools.  It’s a tax fix and parents who choose totally private schools still pay for them but like others don’t pay school taxes because they will be abolished.   This is what New Zealand did and went from having the worst schools in the west to the best, just behind Singapore.  

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  2. Miffed White Male Member
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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):

    Autistic License (View Comment):

    They don’t misunderstand doors; they see an opportunity to press forward with an anti 2A agenda. Any impulsive piece of lawmaking could afford an opportunity, a loophole, a discretion left to an agency.

    The last one was only days ago and we all had to hear about the doofus’s manifesto; there was no advantage to be had in discussion of how he’d been a longtime menace.

    Yep, doors don’t help ban guns, so that can’t be even a partial solution – one that’s already in place and working.

    The kid was a student at the school. Absent detecting a gun and hitting him over the head with a brick to stop him, he’s a student, so he’s automatically let in.

    The systemic failures go back well before the shooting occurred. It looks inevitable now; it was not so when his behaviours were originally noticed and literally reviewed by law enforcement, and nothing was done, much like their physical response outside the school while he killed students.

    Thanks, enforcers of law-duders! One assumes the bulk of them were highly motivated to rush inside, but had orders.

    Are you talking about the Texas shooting?  It was an elementary school, and he was 18.  Also, according to the latest timeline he was outside the school shooting for 12 minutes before he entered the building.  Even if the school didn’t normally keep the doors locked you’d think they’d have done so during the time available.

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  3. Stad Coolidge
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    I suspect I went to high school about the same time as @Stad (graduated 1974), but in coastal southern California (i.e., mild weather). My high school (campus built in about 1965) had multiple buildings with multiple entrances onto the campus between buildings.

    Class of ’73 here (1973, not 1873).  Our school was built in 1963.  It was roughly rectangular with a courtyard in the center.  The three entrances were the main entrance on the road, the side entrance near the parking lot, and a back entrance so students and teachers didn’t have to walk all the way around.  When I graduated, the school had about 1100 students for grades 10-12.  My graduating class had about 360 students.

    Today it’s huge, with several buildings, including my former junior high school next door.  It’s also a magnet school.  Aside: “Magnet school” could be taken the wrong way.  Remember, magnets can also repel . . .

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  4. Stad Coolidge
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    Gazpacho Grande' (View Comment):
    The kid was a student at the school.  Absent detecting a gun and hitting him over the head with a brick to stop him, he’s a student, so he’s automatically let in.

    I seem to remember a few years ago, someone actually proposed handing out rocks or other hard objects to students and training them to throw the things at a shooter . . .

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  5. Stina Inactive
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    Misthiocracy got bored of the … (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):
    I don’t much like the idea of turning schools into fortresses, to protect against an extremely rare occurrence. It seems to me like having people wear beekeeper suits, because people occasionally die from bee, wasp, or hornet stings. (This is a risk comparable to mass shootings.)

    You must hate going to movie theaters then. Because all of them, literally all of them, operate on the principle of a single controlled point of entry with multiple exits for emergencies.

    How do the kids go in and out for recess? Is the playground a secure enclosed space? At the high school level, how do the kids access the outdoor playing fields? Are the outdoor fields a secure enclosed space? Is the door to the playground/playing fields kept locked except when it’s time to go outside and to come back inside?

    All of the recess locations are behind locked perimeter gates. Inside, it’s not going through locked door to locked door. The perimeter gates control the perimeter and that’s it. We have 3-4 perimeter entries at our elementary school.

    Sports fields are expensive to maintain and are largely locked off already because vandalism is costly to repair. Additionally, sports fields are not the site of routine student activity.

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  6. Stina Inactive
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    I don’t much like the idea of turning schools into fortresses, to protect against an extremely rare occurrence. It seems to me like having people wear beekeeper suits, because people occasionally die from bee, wasp, or hornet stings. (This is a risk comparable to mass shootings.)

    My impression is that this is excessive safetyism, similar to the Covid overreaction.

    This is the same argument for not worrying about terror attacks.

    The reason why bathtubs, bees, and cars don’t register on intolerable risk while school shooters and terror attacks do is directly proportional to personal control.

    The more outsourced the control, the less tolerance for the risk.

    With compulsive education and gun free zones, parents and students have outsourced their children’s safety with very little in the way of opting out.

    Terrorism, that also targets gun free zones, is more of people outsourcing their safety to intelligence officials, immigration authorities, congress, and the business they are frequenting. To opt out is to opt out of going about normal life.

    It would be interesting to poll an open carry state vs a highly gun controlled state and see what the public’s perception of danger from terrorism is. Leave off the type because political bias will interfere.

    I’m willing to bet the open carry states are less concerned due to a feeling of control.

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  7. Cassandro Coolidge
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Gazpacho Grande’ (View Comment):
    The kid was a student at the school. Absent detecting a gun and hitting him over the head with a brick to stop him, he’s a student, so he’s automatically let in.

    I seem to remember a few years ago, someone actually proposed handing out rocks or other hard objects to students and training them to throw the things at a shooter . . .

    He said keep a bucket of smooth river stones inside the door for the students to throw at shooters.

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