Baby Formula: Government Chooses to Be Useless

 

In government, different bureaucrats work hard to point fingers of fault elsewhere for every issue. Heaven forbid that anyone would actually get out of their silos and try to solve a problem. In private organizations, the first objective is to find a solution and worry about blame later — unless the organization is organized along government lines.

What would a rational entity do about baby formula shortages?  Instead of advising that it may be cleared up by the end of the year, and oh, by the way, the American Academy of Pediatrics says you should not try to make liquid infant food at home, problem solvers would go to a good research university and fund a two-week effort by the Department of Food Science and Nutrition and the medical schools’ Department of Pediatrics to create a quick and dirty recipe for homemade baby formula from readily available ingredients.  Perfect?  No, but better than whatever they fed kids in the 1950s.  In fact, that is a logical project for NIH if they weren’t too busy being self-serving for decades.

Instead, it seems to be preferred to let the babies starve while they throw blame at Abbott Labs.

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  1. kedavis Member
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    Duane Oyen: Instead, it seems to be preferred to let the babies starve while they throw blame at Abbott Labs. 

    Throw blame for following the regulations that those same feds insist Abbott Labs must follow.

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  2. EODmom Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Duane Oyen: Instead, it seems to be preferred to let the babies starve while they throw blame at Abbott Labs.

    Throw blame for following the regulations that those same feds insist Abbott Labs must follow.

    Having read that there is a consent decree involved, I suspect that there was/is a fine and penalty in the works including some kind of acceptance of “guilt.” Abbott wasn’t down with the vaccine regime I think and I’ll speculate that there is retribution shakedown going on. Think  DoJ and banks and EEOC and discrimination. Sue and settle and shakedown. Pure speculation on my part but one cannot be too cynical. 

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  3. JoelB Member
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    Duane Oyen: What would a rational entity do about baby formula shortages?  Instead of advising that it may be cleared up by the end of the year, and oh, by the way, the American Academy of Pediatrics says you should not try to make liquid infant food at home, problem solvers would go to a good research university and fund a two week effort by the Department of Food Science and Nutrition and the medical schools’ Department of Pediatrics to create a quick and dirty recipe for homemade baby formula from readily available ingredients.  Perfect?  No, but better than whatever they fed kids in the 1950’s.  In fact, that is a logical project for NIH if they weren’t too busy being self-serving fort decades.

    This reminds me of the whole Covid mindset to cover up and eliminate any information about possible early intervention  remedies and depend only on the government-controlled vaccines.

    EODmom (View Comment):
    Abbott wasn’t down with the vaccine regime I think and I’ll speculate that there is retribution shakedown going on.

    Also consistent with what we have seen with Covid to date.

     

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  4. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    Duane Oyen: What would a rational entity do about baby formula shortages? 

    A rational entity would not have a shortage.  All critical components would have multiple sources to ensure a robust supply chain.    But, we have regulatory capture–Big Formula controls government to eliminate competition and extract rents from society.

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  5. Joker Member
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    Babies are not dying from formula poisoning in Canada or Europe. The obstacles to importing formula were developed when the shelves were well stocked. Regulations are written without the slightest concern for shortage, they operate as an expensive nuisance to the US market and they are more interested in punishing those who they regulate than actually getting babies fed and healthy. Government cannot adjust, it is not nimble enough to do anything except grow. 

    In terms of what a private company would do, there would be (and should be) an ocean of pink slips. These people are not doing what they are being paid to do and are actually making the problem worse. This isn’t just a mostly harmless DMV that makes you wait an unreasonable amount of time because they are run poorly, this will actually result in real harm to children who can’t get the formula they need to develop properly.

    Nothing wakes up the worker bees like taking out management.

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  6. MarciN Member
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    I find the whole situation puzzling. Pediatricians have changed their advice considerably from when my kids were babies. My three were weaned to cow’s milk at somewhere between four and six months, and we supplemented cow’s milk with Gerber’s rice cereal for additional iron. Very few babies were on formula, and certainly not for an entire year, which is what the pediatricians are recommending today. I would start by questioning the amount of iron the pediatricians believe is necessary or even optimal.

    I think this crisis will turn out to be very similar to the “bee hive collapse” story–it will be about industry problems and government. Parents will go back to making their own baby formula because it will be discovered that it’s something mothers and fathers can do themselves.

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  7. kedavis Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I find the whole situation puzzling. Pediatricians have changed their advice considerably from when my kids were babies. My three were weaned to cow’s milk at somewhere between four and six months, and we supplemented cow’s milk with Gerber’s rice cereal for additional iron. Very few babies were on formula, and certainly not for an entire year, which is what the pediatricians are recommending today. I would start by questioning the amount of iron the pediatricians believe is necessary or even optimal.

    I think this crisis will turn out to be very similar to the “bee hive collapse” story–it will be about industry problems and government. Parents will go back to making their own baby formula because it will be discovered that it’s something mothers and fathers can do themselves.

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

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  8. JoelB Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    This will create more shortages which will require more government intervention in the form of rationing.

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  9. JohnWilson Coolidge
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    The government buys 50% of the production for their clients!  INCOMPETENCE!

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  10. Sam Thatcher
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    I find the whole situation puzzling. Pediatricians have changed their advice considerably from when my kids were babies. My three were weaned to cow’s milk at somewhere between four and six months, and we supplemented cow’s milk with Gerber’s rice cereal for additional iron. Very few babies were on formula, and certainly not for an entire year, which is what the pediatricians are recommending today. I would start by questioning the amount of iron the pediatricians believe is necessary or even optimal.

    I think this crisis will turn out to be very similar to the “bee hive collapse” story–it will be about industry problems and government. Parents will go back to making their own baby formula because it will be discovered that it’s something mothers and fathers can do themselves.

     I concur with your puzzlement. The idea that parents should be able to create some sort of bridge formula themselves is perfectly reasonable. It may not be perfect and not meant for long term use, but a quick recipe put together by a nutritionist would be more helpful than hysteria and finger pointing. The FDA, CDC, and professional associations would never allow such a thing to be possible, which is part of the problem

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic Oaf Member
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    Here’s the surgeon general’s response:

    In an earlier decade, the man would be quickly removed from office for that kind of comment.

    (Similarly, Buttigieg’s comment that if you’re struggling with high gas prices just go buy an electric car should have had him taken out back and shot.) (Or Granholm’s comment that, hey, this is just the pain we’re going to feel as we transition to green energy, so suck it up, should have had her out looking for a new job.)

    Your government doesn’t give a rodent’s hindquarters about how they make you suffer.

     

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  12. JohnWilson Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    Here’s the surgeon general’s response:

    In an earlier decade, the man would be quickly removed from office for that kind of comment.

    (Similarly, Buttigieg’s comment that if you’re struggling with high gas prices just go buy an electric car should have had him taken out back and shot.) (Or Granholm’s comment that, hey, this is just the pain we’re going to feel as we transition to green energy, so suck it up, should have had her out looking for a new job.)

    Your government doesn’t give a rodent’s hindquarters about how they make you suffer.

     

    Dude looks like a goof in the hat.  

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms?  Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree.  Some don’t. 

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  14. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms? Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree. Some don’t.

    Perhaps by diverting more corn to ethanol.   Or by making fertilizer too expensive.   The war on energy is a war on living standards.

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  15. The Reticulator Member
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    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms? Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree. Some don’t.

    Perhaps by diverting more corn to ethanol. Or by making fertilizer too expensive. The war on energy is a war on living standards.

    I was under the impression that dairy production was too high, as it has usually been over the past several decades.  If that has changed recently, that would be interesting to know. I’m sure my cousin with his multi-generation family dairy operation would be glad of it, as it might more than compensate for increased fertilizer costs. Or it might not. 

    One needs data, not guesses. I would like to know what’s behind the statement that the government is trying to reduce cow milk production without having to make wild guesses about it. 

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  16. Cassandro Coolidge
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    JohnWilson (View Comment):

    The government buys 50% of the production for their clients! INCOMPETENCE!

    Malice.

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  17. kedavis Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms? Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree. Some don’t.

    Perhaps by diverting more corn to ethanol. Or by making fertilizer too expensive. The war on energy is a war on living standards.

    I was under the impression that dairy production was too high, as it has usually been over the past several decades. If that has changed recently, that would be interesting to know. I’m sure my cousin with his multi-generation family dairy operation would be glad of it, as it might more than compensate for increased fertilizer costs. Or it might not.

    One needs data, not guesses. I would like to know what’s behind the statement that the government is trying to reduce cow milk production without having to make wild guesses about it.

    You think they’re only trying to get rid of cattle for meat?  ALL cows fart, and hence make Global Warming worse, etc, etc.

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  18. Cassandro Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms? Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree. Some don’t.

    Perhaps by diverting more corn to ethanol. Or by making fertilizer too expensive. The war on energy is a war on living standards.

    I was under the impression that dairy production was too high, as it has usually been over the past several decades. If that has changed recently, that would be interesting to know. I’m sure my cousin with his multi-generation family dairy operation would be glad of it, as it might more than compensate for increased fertilizer costs. Or it might not.

    One needs data, not guesses. I would like to know what’s behind the statement that the government is trying to reduce cow milk production without having to make wild guesses about it.

    You think they’re only trying to get rid of cattle for meat? ALL cows fart, and hence make Global Warming worse, etc, etc.

    I understand there’s going to be a global war against, shall we say, indigestion.

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  19. kedavis Member
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    Cassandro (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    The Reticulator (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Except it seems like the government is also trying to reduce cow milk production, by making it impossible to feed the dairy farms.

    How so?

    And which dairy farms? Some dairy farms feed themselves to a great degree. Some don’t.

    Perhaps by diverting more corn to ethanol. Or by making fertilizer too expensive. The war on energy is a war on living standards.

    I was under the impression that dairy production was too high, as it has usually been over the past several decades. If that has changed recently, that would be interesting to know. I’m sure my cousin with his multi-generation family dairy operation would be glad of it, as it might more than compensate for increased fertilizer costs. Or it might not.

    One needs data, not guesses. I would like to know what’s behind the statement that the government is trying to reduce cow milk production without having to make wild guesses about it.

    You think they’re only trying to get rid of cattle for meat? ALL cows fart, and hence make Global Warming worse, etc, etc.

    I understand there’s going to be a global war against, shall we say, indigestion.

    I still need to get more canned roast beef with gravy.

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  20. Ansonia Member
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    Are pediatricians recommending any baby formula recipes ?

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