Breitbart: The Bush Brand Is Toxic Now

 

George P. Bush is having trouble gaining traction in his race for Texas Attorney General (his stepping stone to the governorship and then the White House). He has tried really hard to shake off the family legacy of “compassionate (big government) conservatism” and “illegal immigration is an act of love,” He has tried desperately to brand himself as a MAGA Republican. But the voters aren’t buying it.

His ubiquitous name recognition is emerging as a liability in the Republican party. George P. Bush, who currently serves as the state’s land commissioner, is trailing Paxton in polls. Some of the top reasons Republican voters are reluctant about him are his ties to his family’s center-right political leanings and his own past policy positions.

Bush said those attacks are led by Paxton and don’t reflect the support he has seen on the campaign trail. The sitting attorney general’s ads against Bush focus on labeling him a RINO — Republican in name only — and linking him to his famous family.

I know it’s a bummer for GPW that he has to pay for the sins of his family. His uncle and his granddad stabbed conservatives in the back too often to be easily forgiven. Maybe his conversion to “Trumpism” is genuine, but the Bush name is synonymous with campaigning as a conservative and then governing as a big government, globalist moderates who cut bad deals with Democrats.

America really shouldn’t have political dynasties anyway.

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  1. Terry Mott Member
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The people who hated 41 and 43 still do and always will. But I don’t think every Republican feels that way. I certainly don’t.

    GWB’s stock has dropped significantly with the Republican base for two interconnected reasons. He kept his mouth shut when Obama was running the country off the cliff. That could have normally been written off as good decorum. However, he decided to run his mouth in opposition to Trump a few times which made his silence on Obama look less like good decorum and more like he wanted to be all chummy with the left. Wrap this in the context of GWB’s close relationship with WJC and all the sudden it feels like a betrayal to great swaths of Republicans who voted for Bush and Trump and expected Bush to give Trump the same respect he gave Obama. Do most Republicans hate Bush? I don’t think so. But I think that a significant swath of the base, possibly even a majority, feels dismayed and betrayed and hopes to not get fooled again.

    W had the backbone to not back down from the Iraq war in the face of plummeting public opinion.  I know a lot of folks don’t think we should have gone into Iraq at all (I had mixed feelings about it myself), but having gone in, it was absolutely necessary that we not be seen to be chased out with our tail between our legs when things bogged down.  He passed that test.

    Other than that, he was never much of a conservative.  I wasn’t very disappointed with him because I didn’t have high expectations — he was the statist that I thought he was.  That said, I didn’t hate him, and Gore or Kerry would have been much worse.

    But him holding his tongue out of “decorum” for eight years of Obama then lashing out at Trump ruined the little good opinion I had of him.  He jealously defends his class but can’t be bothered to defend conservatives that aren’t of his class.  We embarrass him.  He can kiss my grits.

    P.S., remember when he had that big signing ceremony in the rose garden with Ted Kennedy for one of W’s statist policies (NCLB I think)?  Then Kennedy stabbed him in the back a year or two later, and it supposedly hurt W’s feelings.  If so, he’s an idiot.  If I could see that coming a mile away, sitting in my living room in Texas, why couldn’t W, with all his connections and advisers?

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  2. TBA Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The people who hated 41 and 43 still do and always will. But I don’t think every Republican feels that way. I certainly don’t.

    I don’t hate them – it’s mutual indifference with 41 and general contempt for 43. 

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  3. TBA Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    The “dynasty” references really bother me. They are reminiscent of the Bolsheviks’ killing the entire Russian royal family.

    We do not have dynasties in the United States. In the United States, you can succeed in spite of who your parents are.

    Raise your hand if you have observed among your family and friends and acquaintances kids entering the same professional fields as their parents or grandparents. It always makes me smile when I see it. It’s so obvious why that happens. Partly genetics, but more likely the kids grew up immersed in their parents’ professional life and they were comfortable there. It’s not a dynastic phenomenon. Just a family thing.

    If you don’t want to vote for Jeb Bush because of his policies as governor of Florida, fine. But don’t vote against him just because of his last name.

    I understand what you’re saying, sins of the extended family and all that. 

    But scions and the like usually suck. So for me, the repeated name is a strike against unless they can convince me of…something. Some quality that can eclipse the name. 

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  4. TBA Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette killed the Black… (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: America really shouldn’t have political dynasties anyway.

    On the one hand: One could argue that America shouldn’t really have a cursus honorum to the Presidency either. It just feels greasy for a politician to run for an office for the sole reason that it’s a stepping stone to a higher office.

    On the other hand: One could also argue that this is the natural result of term limits. A politician in a term-limited job has to be thinking about their next job.

    But why do they apparently just assume that their next job must also be in politics?’

    They don’t know how to do anything else. They never learned any skills.

    Unfair! They are fully qualified to be professional shoppers. 

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  5. kedavis Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette killed the Black… (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: America really shouldn’t have political dynasties anyway.

    On the one hand: One could argue that America shouldn’t really have a cursus honorum to the Presidency either. It just feels greasy for a politician to run for an office for the sole reason that it’s a stepping stone to a higher office.

    On the other hand: One could also argue that this is the natural result of term limits. A politician in a term-limited job has to be thinking about their next job.

    But why do they apparently just assume that their next job must also be in politics?’

    They don’t know how to do anything else. They never learned any skills.

    Unfair! They are fully qualified to be professional shoppers.

    Are they really?  Is there evidence that they know what things cost?

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  6. TBA Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette killed the Black… (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: America really shouldn’t have political dynasties anyway.

    On the one hand: One could argue that America shouldn’t really have a cursus honorum to the Presidency either. It just feels greasy for a politician to run for an office for the sole reason that it’s a stepping stone to a higher office.

    On the other hand: One could also argue that this is the natural result of term limits. A politician in a term-limited job has to be thinking about their next job.

    But why do they apparently just assume that their next job must also be in politics?’

    They don’t know how to do anything else. They never learned any skills.

    Unfair! They are fully qualified to be professional shoppers.

    Are they really? Is there evidence that they know what things cost?

    Those are details. The important thing is that they can purchase stuff with other people’s money. 

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    TBA (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    TBA (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Unapologetic … (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Henry Racette killed the Black… (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo: America really shouldn’t have political dynasties anyway.

    On the one hand: One could argue that America shouldn’t really have a cursus honorum to the Presidency either. It just feels greasy for a politician to run for an office for the sole reason that it’s a stepping stone to a higher office.

    On the other hand: One could also argue that this is the natural result of term limits. A politician in a term-limited job has to be thinking about their next job.

    But why do they apparently just assume that their next job must also be in politics?’

    They don’t know how to do anything else. They never learned any skills.

    Unfair! They are fully qualified to be professional shoppers.

    Are they really? Is there evidence that they know what things cost?

    Those are details. The important thing is that they can purchase stuff with other people’s money.

    But only government has unlimited money.

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  8. BDB Inactive
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

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    • active 2 hours, 14 minutes ago

     

    Why no more Reagans? There was only one, after all, and that was quite a long time ago. Shall we also proclaim “No more Lincolns” while we’re at it? I’d prefer a hearty “No more Roosevelts” myself.

    Yes, all of the above.  The damage is greater than the benefit.  Allowing political dynasties all the way to the top provides the incentives for a lot of the supporting infrastructure to be formed.  
    Is there some particular Reagan you had in mind?

    My working limit is a direct family relation, anything that is a “single hop”, whether by marriage, adoption, or good old fashioned genetics.   This includes brothers; it would not include a cousin.  

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  9. Columbo Inactive
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    Please clap.

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  10. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

     

     

     

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  11. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Why no more Reagans?

    Because Ron Jr. and Patti Davis were all left-wing whackjobs.

    Michael seems okay, but he was adopted.

    Maureen ran for the House and Senate in California and lost.

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  12. MarciN Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

    But weren’t all of these people elected? I guess the difference I see is between a foreign, royal, ancient-China-style dynasty which you are a member of at birth and by which you inherit property and power through appointments you get because you’ve got the correct last name, versus American political families whose members run for office.

    As long as I have the freedom to vote against candidates, I don’t see a dynasty per se.

    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

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  13. Skyler Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

    But weren’t all of these people elected? I guess the difference I see between a foreign royal ancient-China-style dynasty which you are a member of at birth and by which you inherit property and power through appointments you get because you’ve got the correct last name, versus American political families whose members run for office.

    As long as I have the freedom to vote against candidates, I don’t see a dynasty per se.

    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

    And ballot box stuffing. 

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  14. TBA Coolidge
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    Skyler (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

    But weren’t all of these people elected? I guess the difference I see between a foreign royal ancient-China-style dynasty which you are a member of at birth and by which you inherit property and power through appointments you get because you’ve got the correct last name, versus American political families whose members run for office.

    As long as I have the freedom to vote against candidates, I don’t see a dynasty per se.

    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

    And ballot box stuffing.

    Yep. Running the Machine is a skill passed down from despot to scion since time immemorial. 

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  15. MarciN Member
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    What bothers me in the political family problem is nepotism. That’s where the family connections really show up, I think. Many of our nongovernment organizations (NGOs) and state and federal agencies are staffed by family-name-connected people. 

    If I could, I’d get rid of most of the president’s cabinet–all those agencies hide a lot of corruption and unmitigated power over individuals. 

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  16. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):
    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

    Not just fundraising and name recognition. Political parties are insider networking clubs. Getting advanced in the party requires connections and favors. Multi-generational political families have those connections; outsiders don’t. Unless, like Kamala Harris, they find, um, another way to ingratiate themselves with powerful politicians.

    Honestly, without their family connections, would Jeb, W, or George P have made it anywhere in politics?

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  17. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

    But weren’t all of these people elected? I guess the difference I see is between a foreign, royal, ancient-China-style dynasty which you are a member of at birth and by which you inherit property and power through appointments you get because you’ve got the correct last name, versus American political families whose members run for office.

    As long as I have the freedom to vote against candidates, I don’t see a dynasty per se.

    That is some semantics jujitsu there.   These people are dynasties by all common meaning.

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  18. Skyler Coolidge
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):
    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

    Not just fundraising and name recognition. Political parties are insider networking clubs. Getting advanced in the party requires connections and favors. Multi-generational political families have those connections; outsiders don’t. Unless, like Kamala Harris, they find, um, another way to ingratiate themselves with powerful politicians.

    Honestly, without their family connections, would Jeb, W, or George P have made it anywhere in politics?

    Or GHW Bush.  He was the son of a prominent senator, Prescott Bush.

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  19. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):
    Do most Republicans hate Bush? I don’t think so. But I think that a significant swath of the base, possibly even a majority, feels dismayed and betrayed and hopes to not get fooled again.

    Don’t forget the SCOTUS nominations of W. And the expansion of the Dept. of Education. The $900B bank bailout was offensive. Plus that $9Trillion spent on hunting Osama Bin Laden–imagine that money spent on American cities.

    At the time he made his SCOTUS nominations (Alito and Roberts, not Miers), conservatives said these nominations were his legacy. They meant this as a compliment, of course. If that view is still held, it’s a mixed bag. Roberts has been an incredible disappointment while Alito has been, I think, all that we hoped he would be. 

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  20. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    Judge Mental (View Comment):

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    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):
    Do most Republicans hate Bush? I don’t think so. But I think that a significant swath of the base, possibly even a majority, feels dismayed and betrayed and hopes to not get fooled again.

    Don’t forget the SCOTUS nominations of W. And the expansion of the Dept. of Education. The $900B bank bailout was offensive. Plus that $9Trillion spent on hunting Osama Bin Laden–imagine that money spent on American cities.

    Well, if the Alito draft opinion of the Dobbs case comes through for the side of life, I will certainly give GWB due credit for Alito.

    Fair… as long as you also give him the blame for Roberts, who will vote in support of Roe.

    Yes, I give him heaps of blame for Roberts. I recall that at the time we were all excited about Roberts. He has turned out to be a terrible disappointment. 

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  21. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    BDB (View Comment):

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    BDB (View Comment):

    • active 2 hours, 14 minutes ago

     

    Why no more Reagans? There was only one, after all, and that was quite a long time ago. Shall we also proclaim “No more Lincolns” while we’re at it? I’d prefer a hearty “No more Roosevelts” myself.

    Yes, all of the above. The damage is greater than the benefit. Allowing political dynasties all the way to the top provides the incentives for a lot of the supporting infrastructure to be formed.
    Is there some particular Reagan you had in mind?

    My working limit is a direct family relation, anything that is a “single hop”, whether by marriage, adoption, or good old fashioned genetics. This includes brothers; it would not include a cousin.

    No particular Reagan in mind. But I wouldn’t dismiss a Reagan merely based upon family ties to Ronald Reagan. Especially this far removed from his presidency. It’s not like a Reagan running for office today would exactly coast along riding Ron’s coattails. 

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  22. kedavis Coolidge
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    Judge Mental (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):
    Do most Republicans hate Bush? I don’t think so. But I think that a significant swath of the base, possibly even a majority, feels dismayed and betrayed and hopes to not get fooled again.

    Don’t forget the SCOTUS nominations of W. And the expansion of the Dept. of Education. The $900B bank bailout was offensive. Plus that $9Trillion spent on hunting Osama Bin Laden–imagine that money spent on American cities.

    Well, if the Alito draft opinion of the Dobbs case comes through for the side of life, I will certainly give GWB due credit for Alito.

    Fair… as long as you also give him the blame for Roberts, who will vote in support of Roe.

    Yes, I give him heaps of blame for Roberts. I recall that at the time we were all excited about Roberts. He has turned out to be a terrible disappointment.

    I blame Roberts for Roberts, more than I blame Bush for Roberts.

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  23. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Why no more Reagans?

    Because Ron Jr. and Patti Davis were all left-wing whackjobs.

    Michael seems okay, but he was adopted.

    Maureen ran for the House and Senate in California and lost.

    The point was more rhetorical than specific to President Reagan’s kids. 

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  24. Skyler Coolidge
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Why no more Reagans?

    Because Ron Jr. and Patti Davis were all left-wing whackjobs.

    Michael seems okay, but he was adopted.

    Maureen ran for the House and Senate in California and lost.

    The point was more rhetorical than specific to President Reagan’s kids.

    I don’t think I would even vote for a Reagan, should there be one running.  I am sick of families in politics.  Alaska, especially, has a big problem.

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  25. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    Skyler (View Comment):

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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Why no more Reagans?

    Because Ron Jr. and Patti Davis were all left-wing whackjobs.

    Michael seems okay, but he was adopted.

    Maureen ran for the House and Senate in California and lost.

    The point was more rhetorical than specific to President Reagan’s kids.

    I don’t think I would even vote for a Reagan, should there be one running. I am sick of families in politics. Alaska, especially, has a big problem.

    Well, yes, Murkowski appointing Murkowski to the U.S. Senate was classic nepotism. 

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

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    Why no more Reagans?

    Because Ron Jr. and Patti Davis were all left-wing whackjobs.

    Michael seems okay, but he was adopted.

    Maureen ran for the House and Senate in California and lost.

    The point was more rhetorical than specific to President Reagan’s kids.

    I don’t think I would even vote for a Reagan, should there be one running. I am sick of families in politics. Alaska, especially, has a big problem.

    Well, yes, Murkowski appointing Murkowski to the U.S. Senate was classic nepotism.

    But that doesn’t seem as bad as the Dingell problem in Michigan.

     

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  27. Skyler Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    But that doesn’t seem as bad as the Dingell problem in Michigan.

     

    Wow, I don’t remember seeing that episode.  Pretty corny.  I guess they can’t all be good.

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    But that doesn’t seem as bad as the Dingell problem in Michigan.

    Wow, I don’t remember seeing that episode. Pretty corny. I guess they can’t all be good.

    Well, it was only 1961.

    And I’d say it was actually far from the worst TZ episode.  Or maybe it was a Night Gallery episode, but I remember one that supposedly had found an Earth-like environment within the asteroid belt, which is impossible, that supposedly had evolved humanoid life just like Earth which is impossible, but they were “ugly” and an “ugly” kid from Earth traded places with a to-them “ugly” kid who looked “normal” to us, using NASA rockets etc, lots of stock NASA footage, and “flying police” from Fahrenheit 451 or something… it was truly awful.

    Apparently it was “The Different Ones,” a Night Gallery episode from 1971.  Really no excuse for that, I’d say.

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  29. BDB Inactive
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    Another Rebuttal to the idea that there are no dynasties in American politics. This is the rather small group of families that run California.

    But weren’t all of these people elected? I guess the difference I see is between a foreign, royal, ancient-China-style dynasty which you are a member of at birth and by which you inherit property and power through appointments you get because you’ve got the correct last name, versus American political families whose members run for office.

    As long as I have the freedom to vote against candidates, I don’t see a dynasty per se.

    But I do understand what you are saying, that there are political families who have advantages when it comes to raising money that others don’t have. Plus name recognition.

    You are speaking of de jure dynasties.  For myself, I oppose de facto dynasties as well, because the damage done is arguably greater.  An elected (snort!) dynasty speaks to the corruption of the people as well as the government — and reinforces itself.  

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    Franco (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    The people who hated 41 and 43 still do and always will. But I don’t think every Republican feels that way. I certainly don’t.

    I had some skepticism of GHW Bush around him being swampy, but I bought into Bush the Second as being less GOPe and more common-man type. Less globalist. Better than Gore, better than Kerry. By 2006 I was again skeptical and questioning W.’s commitment to little things like our borders and our Supreme Court Justices (Harriet Meirs).

    But it was only after seeing Jeb throw his hat into the ring in 2015 that was was red-pilled. I couldn’t believe it. Such a brazenly dynastic move – and when the opponent was sure to be Hillary Clinton! Had Trump not been in the game he could’ve won the nomination and would have certainly lost to Hillary as anyone with two IQ points to rub together would predict.

    Then there was all the snubbing of all things Trumpian and the sabotage.

    Hate would be too strong a word – but contempt and distain? Yes.

    They they have managed to alienate a lot of former supporters, make no mistake.

    It’s still hard to know what to make of George W.

    The day the nation was under attack, he somehow could not get through on the telephone to the Real-Power-Although-Pretending-Not-To-Be  Behind-W’s Throne.

    Every call George W made to Cheney was disconnected after a pause.

    Then someone or other declared that Air Force One was a definite target of the forces that brought down the Towers and Pentagon – so this president  did not arrive back in the Capital until late the night of Nine/Eleven.

    He did seem to be someone it would be fun to have a beer with.  But he knew he was left out of the loop, and he also knew there was little he could do about it.

    Unlike other members of his Administration, he did answer his phone at the WH. When some sevine men in Iraq called 1600 Pennsylvania to complain their drinking water was too foul to use as drinking water or even for showering, he quickly managed to handle their problem.

    He just could not manage to get his input positioned into US policy. After one meeting regarding the economy, he left the room muttering, “This time around I wanted that middle class tax cut.”

     

     

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