Republicans Don’t Give a Damn About Americans

 

REPORT: The House could vote as soon as Tuesday night on a $40 billion package of military and humanitarian aid for Ukraine.

Trump wanted $4 billion for his Wall and the GOP couldn’t come up with it. The GOP has had massive power time and time again over the last 40 years and hasn’t secured our border. But they can get behind giving 10 times that amount to a country it isn’t in our interest to worry about.

Why don’t conservatives move as swiftly to stop the endless fentanyl killing Americans? The child molesters destroying our children? How about the murderers and gang members infesting our streets and terrorizing our communities? The GOP will win and they’ll do nothing to stop any of it but fundraise and beg for the White House. A curse on both parties. They’re all trash.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats.  The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry.  So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.  

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

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  2. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
    GlenEisenhardt
    @GlenEisenhardt

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me

    This is the typical claptrap that is alien to the founding. The founders founded the federal government to PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE. Not to not care about their constituents. Not to sit back and do nothing. Not to promote individual rights which ends up being notning more than corporatism. And furthermore, to secure the BLESSINGS TO OUR POSTERITY. Not the posterity of Ukraine. Not the posterity of Iraq and Afghanistan. Both parties don’t even pretend this is the objective of being in charge of the government anymore. It is their duty to care about American problems. It is their duty to create a more perfect union. It is not their duty to create more hardship and inflation on our backs for the sake of Ukraine. 

    • #182
  3. HeavyWater Reagan
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    @HeavyWater

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    I think Henry’s point that this could result in huge victories for the Democrats as Republican/conservative voters split their votes between multiple parties. Is that a risk critics of the GOP are willing to take?

    That’s not what critics of the GOP are saying.

    What critics of the GOP are saying is that, in terms of the country’s descent into an authoritarian socialist dystopia, the only difference in electing Republicans versus Democrats is the speed of the descent. Because Republicans — particularly the Bush-Republicans who dominate the party in positions of leadership — really don’t have the interest or will to reverse course. The history of the national GOP since 1990 (except for brief exceptions like New Gingrich and Donald Trump) demonstrates this.

    This argument, that the Democrats and the Republicans both support turning America into a socialist hell-hole, has been around for my entire life.  

    Heck, back before I was even paying attention to politics, George Wallace said that there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican parties. 

    But to be honest, I don’t think that the US Supreme Court would be on the brink of reversing Roe v Wade if the Democrats had won the US Senate elections in 2014, 2016 and 2018, not to mention previous elections on the presidential level.  

    Also, the tax cuts would not likely have become law if the Democrats had controlled Congress.  

    • #183
  4. HeavyWater Reagan
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    @HeavyWater

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

    That’s because not all Republicans think alike on the immigration issue.  Some Republicans want to reduce immigration into the United States while other Republicans want to increase immigration.  And there is disagreement over what to do about the “dreamers.” 

    Rick Perry, in 2012, said of those who criticized his policies for dreamers that they did not have a heart.  There is a huge divide within the GOP on this issue.  

    • #184
  5. philo Member
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    @philo

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed at the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    Great point. Leaders are supposed to lead, not follow.

    The voters can choose new leaders if they don’t think they are being lead in the right direction.

    The misuse of the term “leader” in both industry and government where the word “manager” is actually appropriate is rampant these days…especially in reference to the DC crowd. There is a huge difference between the two types of beings and the popularity contests as presented to the voters by the know nothing media types does not serve us well. 

    • #185
  6. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    philo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed at the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    Great point. Leaders are supposed to lead, not follow.

    The voters can choose new leaders if they don’t think they are being lead in the right direction.

    The misuse of the term “leader” in both industry and government where the word “manager” is actually appropriate is rampant these days…especially in reference to the DC crowd. There is a huge difference between the two types of beings and the popularity contests as presented to the voters by the know nothing media types does not serve us well.

    Despite my disagreements with various Republican politicians, I will still vote Republican given the alternative that the Democrats are offering.  

    Maybe someday there will be a new political party that could be much better than the Republicans.  But until that new party emerges, I will be voting Republican as I have been since the early 1980s when I become old enough to vote.  

    • #186
  7. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    Rick Perry, in 2012, said of those who criticized his policies for dreamers that they did not have a heart.  There is a huge divide within the GOP on this issue. 

    And that’s part of why he was not the nominee.  There were other things, but I would call that the single biggest chunk.

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  8. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

    That’s because not all Republicans think alike on the immigration issue. Some Republicans want to reduce immigration into the United States while other Republicans want to increase immigration. And there is disagreement over what to do about the “dreamers.”

    Rick Perry, in 2012, said of those who criticized his policies for dreamers that they did not have a heart. There is a huge divide within the GOP on this issue.

    Showing up in between ports of entry and lying about asylum is one problem that every Republican should be on the same side of. Technically they aren’t even supposed to go beyond the first country.

    You can’t let in low paid people when the Fed is constantly trying to create inflation. We don’t have a libertarian enough economy for that. 

    • #188
  9. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    philo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed at the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    Great point. Leaders are supposed to lead, not follow.

    The voters can choose new leaders if they don’t think they are being lead in the right direction.

    The misuse of the term “leader” in both industry and government where the word “manager” is actually appropriate is rampant these days…especially in reference to the DC crowd. There is a huge difference between the two types of beings and the popularity contests as presented to the voters by the know nothing media types does not serve us well.

    Also “leader” instead of “legislative official”. I think it’s helpful to the right and libertarians when they are careful about rhetoric like this. Be knowledgeable about civics and the actual state of the country with respect to that.

    • #189
  10. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    Ah, so your position is that we should not intervene in Ukraine- that we should not have been sending military and economic aid to that country to go support them against Russia?

    1. Ukraine and Russia are European problems. Maybe Europeans could dial back on their three months of annual vacation and lush social programs and finance their own defense needs for once. Finland is only looking to join NATO so the US taxpayer can pay for their defense as well.
    2. If they can find $40 Billion dollars to buy weapons from their cronies at Raytheon and Lockheed to send to Europeans fighting a European war over European interests, they ought to be able to come up with $10-20 billion to put some gawdam border security on our own gawdam border.
    • #190
  11. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Showing up in between ports of entry and lying about asylum is one problem that every Republican should be on the same side of. Technically they aren’t even supposed to go beyond the first country.

    Yeah, and why won’t Republicans call out Democrats on the fiction that illegal immigrants are “fleeing violence and persecution in their own countries.” They are not. They are economic migrants. Full stop. Guatemala and El  Salvador are no more violent than a typical weekend in Chicago.

    • #191
  12. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    RufusRJones (View Comment):
    Showing up in between ports of entry and lying about asylum is one problem that every Republican should be on the same side of. Technically they aren’t even supposed to go beyond the first country.

    Yeah, and why won’t Republicans call out Democrats on the fiction that illegal immigrants are “fleeing violence and persecution in their own countries.” They are not. They are economic migrants. Full stop. Guatemala and El Salvador are no more violent than a typical weekend in Chicago.

    100%

    Another topic related to this. Somebody on the right needs to put out some detail about the gradations of policy that Biden relaxed that incentivized so many border crossers. It’s probably about nine different things. Then throw in some incentives. I just realized that I can’t really win a policy argument about this. It ought to end at the fact that they should stop at the first country and they can’t go between ports of entry, but that isn’t what happens in real life. 

    It would be perfect for Kite And Key.

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  13. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    Ah, so your position is that we should not intervene in Ukraine- that we should not have been sending military and economic aid to that country to go support them against Russia?

    1. Ukraine and Russia are European problems. Maybe Europeans could dial back on their three months of annual vacation and lush social programs and finance their own defense needs for once. Finland is only looking to join NATO so the US taxpayer can pay for their defense as well.
    2. If they can find $40 Billion dollars to buy weapons from their cronies at Raytheon and Lockheed to send to Europeans fighting a European war over European interests, they ought to be able to come up with $10-20 billion to put some gawdam border security on our own gawdam border.

    Support for aid to Ukraine exists in both the Democrat and Republican parties.  

    Support for increasing funding on border security is certainly lacking among the Democrats who control the US House, US Senate and White House.  

    So, it’s easy to see why aid for Ukraine passed and border security had not passed.  

    The Democrats view “border security” as codes words for bigotry.  It’s not happening as long as Democrats are in power and even if the GOP gains control, there are enough Republicans with a liberal attitude towards illegal immigration to probably prevent anything happening.  

    • #193
  14. Painter Jean Moderator
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    @PainterJean

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

    Start a new party!

    • #194
  15. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because

    Despite my disagreements with various Republican politicians, I will still vote Republican given the alternative that the Democrats are offering.

    Maybe someday there will be a new political party that could be much better than the Republicans. But until that new party emerges, I will be voting Republican as I have been since the early 1980s when I become old enough to vote.

    This is where I am at too. I don’t see an alternative. For the most part, the Republican Party reflects my views as a conservative far more than the Democrats.

    • #195
  16. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

    Start a new party!

    Once you say that the GOP is a joke and that improving the GOP by getting involved in the GOP primaries is unrealistic, you’ve basically gone third party.   

    • #196
  17. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    philo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because

    Despite my disagreements with various Republican politicians, I will still vote Republican given the alternative that the Democrats are offering.

    Maybe someday there will be a new political party that could be much better than the Republicans. But until that new party emerges, I will be voting Republican as I have been since the early 1980s when I become old enough to vote.

    This is where I am at too. I don’t see an alternative

    I suppose if I was living in West Virginia and Joe Manchin was running for reelection, maybe voting for a Democrat would at least seem like a possibility.  But I still don’t think I could actually vote for a Democrat.  

    Manchin only announced his support for Brett Kavanaugh after Susan Collins announced her support for Kavanaugh.  Not exactly a profile in courage.  

    • #197
  18. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    I don’t think that the US Supreme Court would be on the brink of reversing Roe v Wade if the Democrats had won the US Senate elections in 2014, 2016 and 2018, not to mention previous elections on the presidential level.  

    So you’re saying maybe if we wait another fifty years, we might get border security.

    I really don’t think anything recognizable of the United States will be left in fifty years.

    • #198
  19. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    What the eff did Republicans do about the border when they had control?

    They did eff all. You think that if they take the House and Senate in November, they’re going to finally do something?

    History says otherwise.

    Start a new party!

    Once you say that the GOP is a joke and that improving the GOP by getting involved in the GOP primaries is unrealistic, you’ve basically gone third party.

    Yes, I think that’s about it. When Drew complained about the primaries being run by the old guard, I related my experience of the last primary I attended as being full of Trump supporters. To which he responded that challengers would still be kept off the ballot. Well, ok, then start another party! If, as is evident here, you’re convinced the Republicans are worthless, then start your own party.

    I have plenty of concerns about what we’re doing in Ukraine, for the very good reason that this administration is foolish and feckless, and they’re playing with fire. But helping Ukraine? Yes, I support that – along with majorities of Americans, Right and Left. The devil is in the details, of course….

    • #199
  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    If, as is evident here, you’re convinced the Republicans are worthless, then start your own party.

    Great idea!

    Where do we start?

    How about in Ripon? Close enough that I can get there in a few hours.

    • #200
  21. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    How’d your members of Congress vote? Check here:

    https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2022145

    Only one Wisconsin Republican voted against — Tom Tiffany of the 7th District — a newcomer who represents the northwestern quarter of the state. (That is, poorer, working class, rural.)

     

    • #201
  22. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Ukraine and Russia are European problems. Maybe Europeans could dial back on their three months of annual vacation and lush social programs and finance their own defense needs for once. Finland is only looking to join NATO so the US taxpayer can pay for their defense as well.

    Finland as of 2022 has increased their defense spending to 1.96% of their GDP. NATO sets a goal of 2.0%. In 2019 Finland’s defense spending was 1.29% of their GDP. There has been a steady increase since 2019. I suspect that is due to Russian activity in Ukraine, as well as the Russian annexation of Crimea.

    Up to June 2021, the alliance estimated that 10 nations were spending 2% or more of their GDP on defence.

    But latest estimates show now only eight countries are achieving the target with Romania and France falling below the 2% threshold.

    NATO data suggests the UK defence spending as a percentage of GDP dropped by 0.05 percentage points in 2021 to 2.25% from 2.30% from 2020.

    Greece remains the alliance’s biggest spender as a share of GDP, contributing 3.59%.

    The US (3.57%) stays second with Poland (2.34%) third and Croatia, Estonia and Latvia (2.16%) joint-fifth.

     

    • #202
  23. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    I think Henry’s point that this could result in huge victories for the Democrats as Republican/conservative voters split their votes between multiple parties. Is that a risk critics of the GOP are willing to take?

    That’s not what critics of the GOP are saying.

    What critics of the GOP are saying is that, in terms of the country’s descent into an authoritarian socialist dystopia, the only difference in electing Republicans versus Democrats is the speed of the descent. Because Republicans — particularly the Bush-Republicans who dominate the party in positions of leadership — really don’t have the interest or will to reverse course. The history of the national GOP since 1990 (except for brief exceptions like New Gingrich and Donald Trump) demonstrates this.

    This argument, that the Democrats and the Republicans both support turning America into a socialist hell-hole, has been around for my entire life.

    Heck, back before I was even paying attention to politics, George Wallace said that there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the Democrat and Republican parties.

    But to be honest, I don’t think that the US Supreme Court would be on the brink of reversing Roe v Wade if the Democrats had won the US Senate elections in 2014, 2016 and 2018, not to mention previous elections on the presidential level.

    Also, the tax cuts would not likely have become law if the Democrats had controlled Congress.

    I would also add that for Second Amendment supporters, the election of Republicans over the years has meant the expansion of carry rights in many states.

    • #203
  24. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Our NATO Allies; a demonstration in the medium of interpretive dance:

    • #204
  25. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    If, as is evident here, you’re convinced the Republicans are worthless, then start your own party.

    Great idea!

    Where do we start?

    How about in Ripon? Close enough that I can get there in a few hours.

    I would think you would despise Ripon because you despise the Republican Party. How about making Mar A Lago your base? (Hope I’m spelling that correctly…)

    • #205
  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    If, as is evident here, you’re convinced the Republicans are worthless, then start your own party.

    Great idea!

    Where do we start?

    How about in Ripon? Close enough that I can get there in a few hours.

    I would think you would despise Ripon because you despise the Republican Party. How about making Mar A Lago your base? (Hope I’m spelling that correctly…)

    No, I think launching in Ripon is good, symbolically. The GOP was needed then, and was a good organization for a long time, but now it’s time to replace them.

    • #206
  27. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    I don’t think that the US Supreme Court would be on the brink of reversing Roe v Wade if the Democrats had won the US Senate elections in 2014, 2016 and 2018, not to mention previous elections on the presidential level.

    So you’re saying maybe if we wait another fifty years, we might get border security.

    I really don’t think anything recognizable of the United States will be left in fifty years.

    Not at all.  I think we will have to wait one thousand years before we get border security.  

    • #207
  28. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):
    Tom Tiffany of the 7th District

    He is so good on any topic. He goes on Minneapolis talk radio occasionally because the signal goes into his district. 

    • #208
  29. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    If, as is evident here, you’re convinced the Republicans are worthless, then start your own party.

    Great idea!

    Where do we start?

    How about in Ripon? Close enough that I can get there in a few hours.

    I would think you would despise Ripon because you despise the Republican Party. How about making Mar A Lago your base? (Hope I’m spelling that correctly…)

    No, I think launching in Ripon is good, symbolically. The GOP was needed then, and was a good organization for a long time, but now it’s time to replace them.

    So what will you call your new party?

    • #209
  30. Tyrion Lannister Inactive
    Tyrion Lannister
    @TyrionLannister

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    Ah, so your position is that we should not intervene in Ukraine- that we should not have been sending military and economic aid to that country to go support them against Russia?

    1. Ukraine and Russia are European problems. Maybe Europeans could dial back on their three months of annual vacation and lush social programs and finance their own defense needs for once. Finland is only looking to join NATO so the US taxpayer can pay for their defense as well.
    2. If they can find $40 Billion dollars to buy weapons from their cronies at Raytheon and Lockheed to send to Europeans fighting a European war over European interests, they ought to be able to come up with $10-20 billion to put some gawdam border security on our own gawdam border.

    Russia is not a Europe problem, it’s a world problem.  We have an intertwined global economy so what effects part of the world will effect everyone.  Ukraine produces 1/5 of the worlds high grade wheat; it’s kind of hard to grow and export it when the country is on fire.  They also have energy reserves.  They also have some tech companies.  That’s just off the top of my head.  There’s also geopolitical issues- oil cost considerations, a refugee crisis, China watches this and plans against Taiwan accordingly- not to mention Russia is a geopolitical foe who would be strengthened if they conquered Ukraine.  The Neville Chamberlain strategy of appeasement and non intervention is only going to encourage our foes.  Do you think Russia stops at Ukraine? 

    Could Europe do more?  Hell yes.  But Europe not paying it’s fair share isn’t solved by ignoring war in Europe.

    I agree on point 2.  But Democrats control Congress and the White House so nothing will happen because they want the flood of illegals.  

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