Republicans Don’t Give a Damn About Americans

 

REPORT: The House could vote as soon as Tuesday night on a $40 billion package of military and humanitarian aid for Ukraine.

Trump wanted $4 billion for his Wall and the GOP couldn’t come up with it. The GOP has had massive power time and time again over the last 40 years and hasn’t secured our border. But they can get behind giving 10 times that amount to a country it isn’t in our interest to worry about.

Why don’t conservatives move as swiftly to stop the endless fentanyl killing Americans? The child molesters destroying our children? How about the murderers and gang members infesting our streets and terrorizing our communities? The GOP will win and they’ll do nothing to stop any of it but fundraise and beg for the White House. A curse on both parties. They’re all trash.

.

Published in General
This post was promoted to the Main Feed by a Ricochet Editor at the recommendation of Ricochet members. Like this post? Want to comment? Join Ricochet’s community of conservatives and be part of the conversation. Join Ricochet for Free.

There are 347 comments.

Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.
  1. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
    GlenEisenhardt
    @GlenEisenhardt

    Hoyacon (View Comment):
    I thought his point was that Republicans didn’t fund the wall when they didn’t have the votes to do so

    The idea that they never had the votes to secure that border for 40 years is just plain laughable. They could have funded the wall through reconciliation. Pual Ryan never wanted it funded and the gop caucus never pushed for it. But they bend over backwards to get 40 billion dollars of our money during a time of record inflation and record illegal invasion to Ukraine. They have not one leg to stand on to claim anger about inflation, fiscal profligacy, the border or anything else. They don’t care about us or the country. They’re not conservative.

    • #151
  2. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    You can’t let in all kinds of unskilled labor if the stupid Federal Reserve needs to create 2% inflation all of the time. It’s the same thing with trade. 

    The second the Soviet Union fell, the whole West should have gone totally libertarian and gotten their unfunded liabilities in order.

     

    • #152
  3. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
    GlenEisenhardt
    @GlenEisenhardt

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    We need fewer isolationists and more people with a spine in this country.

    We need fewer people who think it’s America’s duty to sacrifice our wealth and blood for the democracy, security, and well-being of every other nation. That position is socialism. We need to spread American wealth and muscle around to those who don’t or can’t or won’t do for themselves. It has the same effect as socialism does. We suffer with no benefit to ourselves and sacrifice to those in need. And the idea that you know what comes after putin won’t be worse is so laughable on its face.

    • #153
  4. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
    GlenEisenhardt
    @GlenEisenhardt

    Chip Roy for speaker

     

    https://twitter.com/RepChipRoy/status/1524177340372299776?t=0mAMWydyune_PBsBo2GRIA&s=19

    • #154
  5. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    We should nuke Germany and the EU for putting themselves in such an idiotic energy position vis-à-vis Russia. 

    I’ve said this before. I cannot understand why all of those countries adjacent to Russia aren’t 10X loaded up with defensive weapons and plans like Switzerland. The ruling class has no (redacted) practical foresight. They have a different agenda.

    • #155
  6. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    “If the most Russia dependent country with the lowest per capita GDP in the European Union can afford to stand up to Putin, everybody should be able to stand up to Putin.” – Prime Minster Kiril Petkov of Bulgaria

    • #156
  7. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    “If the most Russia dependent country with the lowest per capita GDP in the European Union can afford to stand up to Putin, everybody should be able to stand up to Putin.” – Prime Minster Kiril Petkov of Bulgaria

    Define “afford”. 

    • #157
  8. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Speaking of populism. Who believes in this rhetoric? This is the head of principles first, which is far as I’m concerned is a subversive false flag from Omidyar etc. We are 30 years past the point when this was ostensibly good. 

     

     

    He voted for Biden. I would say more or less 50% of the people they feature on their convention stage have gone down in flames in a conservative sense.

    • #158
  9. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    • #159
  10. Painter Jean Moderator
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed by the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    • #160
  11. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed at the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    Great point.  Leaders are supposed to lead, not follow.

    The voters can choose new leaders if they don’t think they are being lead in the right direction.

    • #161
  12. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving.

    Republicans (at the national level) aren’t fighting for any of those policies either; unless you consider tax cuts and aid to Ukraine “policies that promote individual and collective thriving.”

    IF Republicans cared about Americans, THEN we would have a secure border. IF Republicans cared about Americans, THEN we would be cautious about entanglements in foreign conflicts. IF Republicans cared about Americans, THEN they would limit the intrusions of a runaway Deep State.

    A secure border, a reduced regulatory state, fiscal responsibility, market alternatives to coercive bureaucratic authoritarianism, a secure border, limiting foreign interventions to those case directly connected to our national interest. These would be “policies that promote individual and collective thriving,” without any of that mushy left “I want to believe politicians empathize with me.” But Republicans don’t fight for any of that.

    • #162
  13. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Here we are, 158 comments in, and not a single person, not even the Republican apologists, is countering the thesis of the OP by trying to make the case that, “Republicans actually do care about Americans.”

    Says a lot when even Republican fan-boys accept the premise.

    Probably because most conservatives look at politicians “caring” about them rather differently than do liberals. A good example being a presidential debate or town hall event some years ago (I forget the year) in which a guy in the audience asked how the candidates were going to be a “father” to him. Most conservatives hearing that were repulsed at the question.

    I don’t need politicians to “care” about me. I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving. What I think those policies ought to be might not be the same as what you think. If a politician or party doesn’t do exactly what you want, I think it’s childish to then whine, “they don’t care about me”!

    Glen is arguing that it is Americans, i.e. a collective, and not ‘me’. So your argument is disingenuous.

    • #163
  14. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Government Is How We Steal From Each Other™

    • #164
  15. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Hang On (View Comment):
    Glen is arguing that it is Americans, i.e. a collective, and not ‘me’. So your argument is disingenuous.

    Thank you. Much more concisely put than what I said.

     

    • #165
  16. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    I need politicians who will enact policies that promote individual and collective thriving.

    Republicans (at the national level) aren’t fighting for any of those policies either; unless you consider tax cuts and aid to Ukraine “policies that promote individual and collective thriving.”

    A secure border, a reduced regulatory state, fiscal responsibility, market alternatives to coercive bureaucratic authoritarianism, a secure border, limiting foreign interventions to those case directly connected to our national interest. These would be “policies that promote individual and collective thriving.” But Republicans don’t fight for any of that.

    There are political parties other than the Republican party.  I personally don’t support those alternatives.  But they are available if you want to go that route.   

    • #166
  17. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    The 40 billion dollar aid package for Ukraine passed the House 368 to 57. Now it goes to the Senate.

    Glad more Republicans are growing a spine after JD Vance’s victory. Sad it isn’t because of principle. 

    • #167
  18. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):
    Why? Because we’re the people who suffer most in blood and treasure every time some elitist gets it in his skull to play with toy soldiers.

    And the people who suffer most from illegal immigration are the working class without connections or privilege to get secure white collar jobs.

    And the people who suffer most from runaway inflation are the middle and working class who don’t have intergenerational wealth as a backstop.

    And the people who suffer most from crime are people who don’t live in gated communities with 24 hour security.

    Our ruling class has no clue what the other classes are going through. They have the luxury of thinking a remote conflict between two European countries is the most important issue in the world.

    There’s only one way to change things. Vote in November.

    You don’t want to change things, guy. You want our blood and treasure spent in Ukraine. You’ve made that perfectly clear.

     

    • #168
  19. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    There are political parties other than the Republican party.  I personally don’t support those alternatives.  But they are available if you want to go that route.   

    I’m more of a “put not your faith in princes” kind of guy. Also, every cynic starts out as an optimist, remember that.

    • #169
  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    RufusRJones (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    I wonder if the Congressional vote on the 39.7 billion dollar aid package for Ukraine will be as lopsided as the vote on the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend Lease Act, which passed the US Senate unanimously and passed the US House by a vote of 417 to 10.

    6 percent of Americans have confidence in Putin to do the right thing in world affairs.

    72 percent of Americans have confidence in Zelensky to do the right thing in world affairs.

    So, is this a case of both Democrat and Republican politicians following the polls?

    They are following the inclinations of their voters as expressed in the polls, yes.

    Let’s hear it for populism!

    Populism is not a dirty word. But hey, if you’re against populism, you must be pro-oligarchy.

    Which is definitely the vibe I get from you.

    Populism is an issue for actual reasons. Whoever is against populism needs to be able to explain that, and I don’t see it very much.

    That’s because they don’t even know what it is. But the media (including alleged conservative media) tells them to oppose it, so they do. It’s a class issue, and the upper classes hate populism because it respects the voice of those dirty lower classes.

    • #170
  21. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Remind yourself to vote. lol 

    We’re Living in the Age of Capital Consumption

    Ronald-Peter Stöferle

    https://mises.org/wire/were-living-age-capital-consumption 

     

     

    That article is a whole page and a half.

     

     

    • #171
  22. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    I suppose if we have concluded that the Republicans don’t care about Americans, we can always vote for some new party.  

    But I think Henry’s point that this could result in huge victories for the Democrats as Republican/conservative voters split their votes between multiple parties.  Is that a risk critics of the GOP are willing to take?  Some are.  Some people vote Libertarian.  I don’t.  

    • #172
  23. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    The Mises Institute loses me on this Pro-China Propaganda article.

    • #173
  24. Tyrion Lannister Inactive
    Tyrion Lannister
    @TyrionLannister

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    We need fewer isolationists and more people with a spine in this country.

    We need fewer people who think it’s America’s duty to sacrifice our wealth and blood for the democracy, security, and well-being of every other nation. That position is socialism. We need to spread American wealth and muscle around to those who don’t or can’t or won’t do for themselves. It has the same effect as socialism does. We suffer with no benefit to ourselves and sacrifice to those in need. And the idea that you know what comes after putin won’t be worse is so laughable on its face.

    Ah, so your position is that we should not intervene in Ukraine- that we should not have been sending military and economic aid to that country to go support them against Russia?

    Tell me then- if Ukraine falls to Russia, how exactly does that benefit the US?  What benefits do I as an American citizen receive by Russia taking part or all of Ukraine?  

    • #174
  25. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    It is important to point out that currently the Democrats control the US House, the US Senate and the White House.  This is likely to change in the elections this November.  

    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats.  The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry.  So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.  

    It’s also not surprising that we have inflation due to the spend-a-holic policies that both parties have supported for the past 20 years.  We need to reform out entitlement programs (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid).  But any politician who suggests this gets booted out of office quickly.  

    • #175
  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    • #176
  27. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    The Mises Institute loses me on this Pro-China Propaganda article.

    You are hurting my feelings.

    • #177
  28. HeavyWater Reagan
    HeavyWater
    @HeavyWater

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):

    GlenEisenhardt (View Comment):

    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    We need fewer isolationists and more people with a spine in this country.

    We need fewer people who think it’s America’s duty to sacrifice our wealth and blood for the democracy, security, and well-being of every other nation. That position is socialism. We need to spread American wealth and muscle around to those who don’t or can’t or won’t do for themselves. It has the same effect as socialism does. We suffer with no benefit to ourselves and sacrifice to those in need. And the idea that you know what comes after putin won’t be worse is so laughable on its face.

    Ah, so your position is that we should not intervene in Ukraine- that we should not have been sending military and economic aid to that country to go support them against Russia?

    Tell me then- if Ukraine falls to Russia, how exactly does that benefit the US? What benefits do I as an American citizen receive by Russia taking part or all of Ukraine?

    Exactly.  Allowing Putin’s aggression to succeed would only invite more aggression.  

    Putin started this war.  Ukraine and its allies, including the United States, will defeat Putin.  

    • #178
  29. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    HeavyWater (View Comment):
    I think Henry’s point that this could result in huge victories for the Democrats as Republican/conservative voters split their votes between multiple parties.  Is that a risk critics of the GOP are willing to take? 

    That’s not what critics of the GOP are saying.

    What critics of the GOP are saying is that, in terms of the country’s descent into an authoritarian socialist dystopia, the only difference in electing Republicans versus Democrats is the speed of the descent.  Because Republicans — particularly the Bush-Republicans who dominate the party in positions of leadership — really don’t have the interest or will to reverse course. The history of the national GOP since 1990 (except for brief exceptions like New Gingrich and Donald Trump) demonstrates this.

    • #179
  30. RufusRJones Member
    RufusRJones
    @RufusRJones

    HeavyWater (View Comment):

    It is important to point out that currently the Democrats control the US House, the US Senate and the White House. This is likely to change in the elections this November.

    But there are consequences for losing elections to the Democrats. The Democrats think of border control as equivalent to bigotry. So, it isn’t surprising that we have a border problem now that the Democrats are in charge.

    It’s also not surprising that we have inflation due to the spend-a-holic policies that both parties have supported for the past 20 years. We need to reform out entitlement programs (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid). But any politician who suggests this gets booted out of office quickly.

    The time for ordinary conservative idealism is after the bond market collapses. 

    • #180
Become a member to join the conversation. Or sign in if you're already a member.