Republicans Don’t Give a Damn About Americans

 

REPORT: The House could vote as soon as Tuesday night on a $40 billion package of military and humanitarian aid for Ukraine.

Trump wanted $4 billion for his Wall and the GOP couldn’t come up with it. The GOP has had massive power time and time again over the last 40 years and hasn’t secured our border. But they can get behind giving 10 times that amount to a country it isn’t in our interest to worry about.

Why don’t conservatives move as swiftly to stop the endless fentanyl killing Americans? The child molesters destroying our children? How about the murderers and gang members infesting our streets and terrorizing our communities? The GOP will win and they’ll do nothing to stop any of it but fundraise and beg for the White House. A curse on both parties. They’re all trash.

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  1. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    You know what makes me even angrier? Is that this I know without doubt will pass with ease while I knew the wall money was a shot in the dark. I’d be a lot more ok with this if there was fighting involved on both of them.

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  2. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

     

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  4. The Scarecrow Thatcher
    The Scarecrow
    @TheScarecrow

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Fine, okay. Then how about doing both – $36 billion for Ukraine and $4 billion for border control?

    Or even better, how about not simply dropping billions of dollars of weaponry for the Taliban to pick up and use, and maybe sliding all that over to Ukraine? Then we could use the savings to stop our country from being invaded.

    Is it possible to do two things at once?

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  5. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

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  6. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Yes, but how much more in our interest is it to stop the destruction of our own country ongoing — right now.  That’s Glen’s point.  These useless Republicans are not interested in it.

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  7. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Fine, okay. Then how about doing both – $36 billion for Ukraine and $4 billion for border control?

    Or even better, how about not simply dropping billions of dollars of weaponry for the Taliban to pick up and use, and maybe sliding all that over to Ukraine? Then we could use the savings to stop our country from being invaded.

    Is it possible to do two things at once?

    I don’t disagree with you. I would like our southern border to be taken seriously, and I think the withdrawal from Afghanistan was atrocious, the leaving of our equipment being just one outrage.

    I think we can do two things at once, but not with this mediocrity in the Oval Office.

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  8. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    The United States can certainly do two different things at the same time. During WWII the US fought on two different fronts.

    If Congress had been around when God said, Let their be light, we still would be without light today. 

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  9. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Yes, but how much more in our interest is it to stop the destruction of our own country ongoing — right now. That’s Glen’s point. These useless Republicans are not interested in it.

    It’s so easy to trash the Republicans. You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

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  10. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    They’re all trash.

    Andy Biggs and Louie Gohmert have been staunch throughout in pushing for a wall.  There are others.

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  11. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

    Oh, I do. I tell them that we need a new party. Then they come in here and yell at me that we only have two choices.

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  12. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Yes, but how much more in our interest is it to stop the destruction of our own country ongoing — right now. That’s Glen’s point. These useless Republicans are not interested in it.

    It’s so easy to trash the Republicans. You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

    Vote harder!  We tried that in 2020 and proved that no longer works.

    I *am* a voter, and per your prescription, I *should* be flame-spraying the people who fail to do what they’re supposed to, right?  If it’s all my fault as a voter, then shouldn;t I be *more* vocal and unpleasant, counter-establishment and furious? 

    If as you say, it’s the voters’ fault, then am I supposed to just accept the nothing we get?  If you really want to stand on “it’s the voters” then you cannot also complain that voters like me are furious and vocal.  I’ve worked the polls, I’ve done poll-watcher, and I’m in this year’s efforts as well.  Am I just supposed to donate my time to the feckless, or should I be calling for their heads in an effort to help induce the change I want?

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    • #12
  13. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    Jean voted for the pResident in Chief, so we should definitely give her a hard time.

    Moderators note: See comment #25.

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  14. Locke On Member
    Locke On
    @LockeOn

    Pragmatically, Ukraine gets $40 billion because it has substantial support from both parties.  The border doesn’t get $4 billion because the Dims will do nothing to stop the flood of aliens into our country, no matter how the Pubs vote.  If that doesn’t change next January, then yes they deserve condemnation.

    • #14
  15. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Stina (View Comment):

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    Jean voted for the pResident in Chief, so we should definitely give her a hard time.

    Ah.

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  16. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    @painterjean, I don’t mean to be unpleasant.  It’s just frustrating, you know?  If you voted for Biden, then we’re not going to see eye-to-eye on anything anyway.

    Correction — Jean says she didn’t vote for Biden.  My mistake.

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  17. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Pragmatically, Ukraine gets $40 billion because it has substantial support from both parties. The border doesn’t get $4 billion because the Dims will do nothing to stop the flood of aliens into our country, no matter how the Pubs vote. If that doesn’t change next January, then yes they deserve condemnation.

    We had the house and the pubs did nothing.

    Why should it be different next time?

    • #17
  18. mildlyo Member
    mildlyo
    @mildlyo

    Very good questions. So much waste.

    • #18
  19. Hoyacon Member
    Hoyacon
    @Hoyacon

    Stina (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Pragmatically, Ukraine gets $40 billion because it has substantial support from both parties. The border doesn’t get $4 billion because the Dims will do nothing to stop the flood of aliens into our country, no matter how the Pubs vote. If that doesn’t change next January, then yes they deserve condemnation.

    We had the house and the pubs did nothing.

    Why should it be different next time?

    The House alone doesn’t get you much.  And it probably won’t be different without a filibuster proof Senate.

    • #19
  20. Doug Watt Moderator
    Doug Watt
    @DougWatt

    Just a friendly warning. Do not fill this thread with personal attacks.

    • #20
  21. Bishop Wash Member
    Bishop Wash
    @BishopWash

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    But supposedly she’s a nut job. 

    • #21
  22. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):
    You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

    Oh, I do. I tell them that we need a new party. Then they come in here and yell at me that we only have two choices.

    People are entitled to their opinions. I think if people want to start a new party, hey, be my guest. 

    • #22
  23. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oik!
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Bishop Wash (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    But supposedly she’s a nut job.

    The GOPe hate her.

    But hey, here’s the former RNC chair giving Democrats an assist with their latest jeremiad.

    With Republicans like this, who needs Democrats?

    • #23
  24. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Yes, but how much more in our interest is it to stop the destruction of our own country ongoing — right now. That’s Glen’s point. These useless Republicans are not interested in it.

    It’s so easy to trash the Republicans. You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

    Vote harder! We tried that in 2020 and proved that no longer works.

    I *am* a voter, and per your prescription, I *should* be flame-spraying the people who fail to do what they’re supposed to, right? If it’s all my fault as a voter, then shouldn;t I be *more* vocal and unpleasant, counter-establishment and furious?

    If as you say, it’s the voters’ fault, then am I supposed to just accept the nothing we get? If you really want to stand on “it’s the voters” then you cannot also complain that voters like me are furious and vocal. I’ve worked the polls, I’ve done poll-watcher, and I’m in this year’s efforts as well. Am I just supposed to donate my time to the feckless, or should I be calling for their heads in an effort to help induce the change I want?

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    I understand and share your frustration as a voter. You and I are probably incensed by the many of the same things. But I think it’s simplistic, to put it mildly, to trash all Republicans. Some are more effective than others, and presumably they all represent the will of the voters who put them there and who can remove them if they don’t do the job they want.

    I’m just not for the blanket flame-spraying of people who are, for the most part, on my side. I think it’s poor, shallow thinking, and frankly I’d rather save the vitriol for the Left. Circular firing squads don’t work well.

    • #24
  25. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    Stina (View Comment):

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    Jean voted for the pResident in Chief, so we should definitely give her a hard time.

    I did not. I voted for Trump, and even had his sign on my lawn. Stop with your lies.

    • #25
  26. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    BDB (View Comment):

    @ painterjean, I don’t mean to be unpleasant. It’s just frustrating, you know? If you voted for Biden, then we’re not going to see eye-to-eye on anything anyway.

    I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted for Trump and had his sign in our yard.

    • #26
  27. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    BDB (View Comment):

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    I think it is in our interest to worry about. Putin unchecked is emphatically a problem for America and not just Europe. And don’t think that China isn’t watching how the West responds to Putin…..there’s deterrence value in stopping Putin.

    Yes, but how much more in our interest is it to stop the destruction of our own country ongoing — right now. That’s Glen’s point. These useless Republicans are not interested in it.

    It’s so easy to trash the Republicans. You forget that voters put them there and voters are capable of removing them if they don’t perform as wished. Trash the voters if you think that helps your case…

    Vote harder! We tried that in 2020 and proved that no longer works.

    I *am* a voter, and per your prescription, I *should* be flame-spraying the people who fail to do what they’re supposed to, right? If it’s all my fault as a voter, then shouldn;t I be *more* vocal and unpleasant, counter-establishment and furious?

    If as you say, it’s the voters’ fault, then am I supposed to just accept the nothing we get? If you really want to stand on “it’s the voters” then you cannot also complain that voters like me are furious and vocal. I’ve worked the polls, I’ve done poll-watcher, and I’m in this year’s efforts as well. Am I just supposed to donate my time to the feckless, or should I be calling for their heads in an effort to help induce the change I want?

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    I forgot to add – I’m not satisfied with the status quo. Where did you get that? I didn’t say that. I’m not happy with the status quo. I just don’t see the value in slamming people who are mostly on my side of the aisle. If I don’t like them, I can vote them out if I am a constituent.

    • #27
  28. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    BDB (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Your apparent satisfaction with the status quo or at least dissatisfaction with those of us furious about it is at odds with the idea that change is supposed to come from us.

    Jean voted for the pResident in Chief, so we should definitely give her a hard time.

    Ah.

    Stina is lying. I didn’t vote for Biden, I voted for Trump.

    • #28
  29. Painter Jean Member
    Painter Jean
    @PainterJean

    Stina (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Pragmatically, Ukraine gets $40 billion because it has substantial support from both parties. The border doesn’t get $4 billion because the Dims will do nothing to stop the flood of aliens into our country, no matter how the Pubs vote. If that doesn’t change next January, then yes they deserve condemnation.

    We had the house and the pubs did nothing.

    Why should it be different next time?

    Still, I definitely think you and others who share your mindset should start a third party.

    • #29
  30. BDB Coolidge
    BDB
    @BDB

    Painter Jean (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Locke On (View Comment):

    Pragmatically, Ukraine gets $40 billion because it has substantial support from both parties. The border doesn’t get $4 billion because the Dims will do nothing to stop the flood of aliens into our country, no matter how the Pubs vote. If that doesn’t change next January, then yes they deserve condemnation.

    We had the house and the pubs did nothing.

    Why should it be different next time?

    Still, I definitely think you and others who share your mindset should start a third party.

    Nope.  I want yours.

    • #30
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