‘2000 Mules’: Election Drop Boxes, ‘Geofencing,’ and ‘The Big Lie’

 

“We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.” Joe Biden

Those were the exact words from a grainy clip of then-presidential candidate Joe Biden that opens a new movie by conservative author, pundit, and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza, ‘“2000 Mules.” It was seen as just another gaffe by a candidate with a long history of malapropisms.

Salem Media Group and True the Vote (TTV) produced the movie. D’Souza relies on research from TTV’s President, Catherine Englebrecht, and TTV board member Gregg Phillips, a former state health official in Texas and Mississippi. Phillips also is a data analyst and the founder of several technology-related firms. He claims in the movie to have been “in and around” election integrity and analysis for 40 years.

Phillips is no stranger to controversy. He was the source of claims made by President Trump in 2017, never confirmed, that 3 million illegal votes were cast in the 2016 election. Mainstream media has worked overtime to discredit him and TTV, including a major investor’s claim that he was duped and other unsubstantiated claims. Yet, Phillips and TTV persist.

D’Souza, who launched a podcast in 2021 on the Salem platform, sets the stage with clips from three Republicans – former Attorney General Bill Barr (“Fraud did not play a role in the outcome of the election”), US Sen. Mike Rounds (“the election was fair”), and of course, US Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY). He touches on “J6” at the US Capitol, claiming it “wasn’t an insurrection. It was a primal scream. They wanted their elected leaders to adjudicate the claims of election fraud.”

“We can’t ‘move on’ until we know the truth,” D’Souza continues. “Is it a ‘big lie?’ It is a lie at all?”

D’Souza also relies on a panel of Salem radio talk show and podcast hosts, including Dennis Prager, Eric Metaxas, Larry Elder, Charlie Kirk, and former Trump administration official Dr. Sebastian Gorka. Most express reservations about election fraud claims in the first interviews.

By the end of the movie, they’re aghast. You may be, too. One of the retorts we often hear concerning claims of vote fraud is the phrase “without evidence.” Except that D’Souza, Englebrecht, and Phillips provide actual official footage of crimes committed by “mules” in the form of drop-box stuffing of ballots, often during the dark of night. Most states, including Pennsylvania – a particular focus of illegal election activity in the movie – prohibit voters from casting more than one ballot, their own, at drop boxes.

Drop boxes – many of them privately funded via $400 million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg through the left-wing Center for Tech and Civic Life – were a unique feature of the pandemic-scarred 2020 election. Most were placed in Democratic-leaning counties and jurisdictions.

Here’s a dropbox outside of Arlington County, Virginia offices in the 2021 state elections.

Interestingly, as The Federalist reported, “Facebook has banned Trump from its platform and has delisted individuals — many of them conservatives — for espousing views about the election that it insists are “misinformation.”

Credit D’Souza for asking all the right questions throughout the movie. Let’s take one of the first: if Biden was so successful, why did Democrats lose so many down-ballot races for US House and other races? After all, a newly-elected President usually has coattails and sees increases in his party’s hold on Congress.

House Republicans gained 14 seats in 2020. In fairness, much of that is a rebound from the 2018 election when the GOP lost 40 seats. But, still, it is an anomaly for a new President to lose seats.

Pennsylvania is a better example. Biden “won” the state with 3.46 million votes and a margin of about 80,000 with 6.915 million votes cast. On election night, Trump led by nearly 800,000 votes before mail votes were counted. There were three other statewide elections for Attorney General, Treasurer, and Auditor General. Democrats held all, and other than Auditor General, a popular Democratic incumbent was on the ballot.

While Attorney General and 2022 Democratic gubernatorial nominee presumptive Josh Shapiro narrowly won reelection, the total ballots cast for Attorney General were over 110,000 fewer than for President.

Republican challengers Stacey Garritty (Treasurer) and Tim DeFoer (Auditor-General) won the other two races for the first time in several years. The ballot drop-off in those elections was nearly 150,000.

There are two explanations. First, a drop-off in ballots cast for down-ballot races is not uncommon, although 109,000 seems high. Second, in Act 77, the Pennsylvania legislature eliminated a ballot box for straight-party voting in 2020. If you are committing fraud by producing as many ballots as possible and only have time to mark one box, it will be for the top of the ballot – the presidency. Thus, the drop-off.

Phillips explained how TTV’s research worked. They obtained some 10 trillion cell phone “signals” using a petabyte of data. They narrowed their research to focus on “signals” that visited ten or more election drop boxes and five or more visits to “nonprofit” organizations that have collected ballots, starting in Georgia. They expanded their research to include Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

Remember, most state laws, including Pennsylvania, restrict the number of ballots (one) that any single voter can cast at a dropbox. Ballot harvesting – collecting and delivering ballots on behalf of voters – is illegal in most states. While most states have provisions to allow others to deliver ballots on their behalf, it is highly restricted.

A “mule” is a person who picks up ballots from an organization – “stash houses” – and delivers them to a series of drop boxes. According to Engelbrecht’s sources, mules are typically paid about $10 per ballot. They often take selfies of them depositing ballots to ensure payment. “In the Georgia (US Senate runoff, January 5, 2021), that payment was higher.”

Dozens of mules who participated in violent Antifa-BLM riots in Atlanta were also mules in the 2020 election, reports Phillips. Over 240 mules were identified in Atlanta. Some mules, especially in Michigan, visited about 100 dropboxes.

BLM rioters also were utilized as mules to drop ballots at multiple dropbox locations in Atlanta.

There were 1,100 mules identified in Philadelphia – many of driving back and forth across bridges from New Jersey – visiting as many as 50 drop boxes each. And TTV has 4 million minutes of surveillance video from across the country to help prove their case, obtained through open records requests. Except Wisconsin has no video, even though it was required under state law. Other jurisdictions, such as Arizona, turned off some footage. But where they do, TTV has the geospatial data to support the video.

Here is an Atlanta “mule” depositing – and dropping – ballots he’s stuffing into a dropbox during the night.

At one Gwinnett County, Georgia, 271 voters were videotaped dropping ballots at a drop box. Over 1,962 ballots were deposited, according to official “chain of custody” documents.

“This is organized crime,” Phillips asserts. With evidence. It appears even to violate federal racketeering laws (RICO).

And this is only from the first half of the movie. Watch the rest. You can access it here.

What will be done about this, given that Republican candidates are punished for making election fraud a top issue? Worse, can we expect the Biden Administration’s Justice Department to do anything?

The good news is that some jurisdictions are taking action, including either eliminating dropboxes or increasing surveillance. Some eighteen state laws have been changed to prevent “Zuckbucks” from privately subsidizing official elections, including Georgia. As for geofencing, a tool used chiefly by advertisers and law enforcement agencies, it is proving to be a valuable tool in elections. Including exposing fraudulent activity.

D’Souza then asks the $64,000 question – was the scope of election fraud big enough to tip the balance in the 2020 election. He says yes, especially in Georgia, Arizona, and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The combined electoral votes from those three states were enough to put Biden over the top.

D’Souza leaves many questions unanswered. He does not disclose the names of “nonprofits” who acted as “stash houses” for mules to pick up and deposit multiple ballots. Where and how did these stash houses collect ballots? Where did the money come from to subsidize this effort? Will TTV provide this data to law enforcement authorities? Nowhere in America is it legal for nonprofit organizations to collect ballots and pay mules to deliver them, D’Souza asserts. Some 2000 mules visited 38 dropboxes each to deposit nearly 400,000 illegally-cast votes.

Associated Press attempted to “fact check” the movie. AP claims falsely that the film is based on a flawed analysis of geofenced data. They claim it isn’t precise, but that is laughably false. Drive up to any gasoline retailer who uses geospatial data to spot your presence at their pumps to text you with special deals. It has happened to me. Further, Phillips cited an instance where their geospatial data helped identify an alleged killer in Atlanta at the precise location where the murder occurred. The alleged killer has been arrested.

Election fraud is hard to prove. It takes time, money, and much effort, much more than was available between the November 2020 election and swearing-in day just 10 weeks later. There are unanswered questions. But eventually, the truth comes out. Like it or not, D’Souza has upped the anty on election integrity for the 2022 election. Local and state officials had better be prepared to respond.

Joe Biden might have been correct. Democrats and their allies may have created the largest and most inclusive voter fraud organization in American political history. Will we ever know with certainty?

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  1. kedavis Coolidge
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    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    Controls for in person voting are fairly robust

    Not if there are no requirements for solid ID verification, for starters.  Plus keeping clean registration lists, etc.

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  2. namlliT noD Member
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    @DonTillman

    Dbroussa (View Comment):
    Making an election actually auditable would mean that you cannot have a hidden ballot because true auditability requires traceability from the person who cast the vote to the result and that means publicly knowing who you cast your ballot for in each election. 

    No, there are ways of encrypting it.

    Not that secret ballots mean a heck of a lot when your party affiliation is public knowledge.

     

     

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  3. Cassandro Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Beliefs about the 2020 Election tend to be premised on a false dichotomy: You’re either “Stolen Election” or “Big Lie.” I think it’s more of a continuum.

    0 – The 2020 election was absolutely clean, the fairest election in history, and exactly as reported.

    1 – There were some minor shenanigans at the margins, but they had no effect on the outcome.

    2 – There was a moderate level of shenanigans, and they could have changed the outcome of the election, but probably not.

    3- There were significant irregularities involving primarily mail-in ballots and these may have changed the outcome of the election.

    4 – There was major fraud involving a large but known number of illegitimate votes that most likely swung the election in purple states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.

    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    I’m about at a 3. Where are you?

    I’m at 4.75 to 4.98 (nothing is certain).

    But I don’t watch Trump anymore because it seems so — well, I don’t know what he’s up to.  Running for POTUS again?  But the one cogent right-wing criticism I’ve heard of Trump this past year is that he goes around talking about the Stolen Election, with nothing new to say, just harping on his loss, and he, and we all, need to move on.

    On the other hand, some members (@henryracette in particular) say to: Get angry.  Talk to people.  Get the word out.  And support the Republican party.  Get involved in local elections.  Which is good and right as far as it goes.  And which I characterize as Vote Harder.  But what I foresee is that if the 2020 election was “fixed” then no amount of voting will ever make a difference, at least in the beginning, no difference for swing members for the House and Senate, and for the presidency.

    My point is that if indeed Trump is harping on the past, on the stolen 2020 election, which can’t be corrected now, he’s still harping on the one thing that makes a difference, without which our constitutional republican form of government can’t stand, and is potentially an existential threat to any form of self-governance.

    Now, with the presentation of 2000 Mules, the emphasis is rightly on this most important subject.  And it just so happens to be what Trump has been saying, and what people have been saying is Trump’s narcissistic sour grapes whining.

    Trump’s right.  If the election was stolen, every election can be stolen; and every important election will be stolen if we can’t right this.

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  4. Vince Guerra Inactive
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Vince Guerra (View Comment):

    2000 Mules grossed over a million dollars on Saturday alone. Any wonder why it’s not listed on the top ten?https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/in-less-than-12-hours-2000-mules-grosses-more-than-one-million-dollars-on-locals-and-rumble-301542260.html

    Do movies released on streaming services like Locals and Rumble count towards box office numbers? Or is it only theater receipts? That might be the answer to your question.

    Not sure but it was also released in theaters across the country last week. IMDB lists movies that showed in only one theater and made less than $100 in the top 25. You know for darn sure 2000 Mules cleared more than $5,ooo in theater.

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  5. Saint Augustine Member
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    @SaintAugustine

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Beliefs about the 2020 Election tend to be premised on a false dichotomy: You’re either “Stolen Election” or “Big Lie.” I think it’s more of a continuum.

    0 – The 2020 election was absolutely clean, the fairest election in history, and exactly as reported.

    1 – There were some minor shenanigans at the margins, but they had no effect on the outcome.

    2 – There was a moderate level of shenanigans, and they could have changed the outcome of the election, but probably not.

    3- There were significant irregularities involving primarily mail-in ballots and these may have changed the outcome of the election.

    4 – There was major fraud involving a large but known number of illegitimate votes that most likely swung the election in purple states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.

    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    I’m about at a 3. Where are you?

    3 is demonstrated.

    4 is probable.

    5 is disturbingly plausible.

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  6. Saint Augustine Member
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    I’m a little surprised the resident “Reagan Republican” hasn’t shown up on any of these posts to state “There’s no evidence! There were 60+ court cases and they all held that the elections were without fraud!” (NB: He never admits that the vast majority were dismissed because of standing, etc.)

    1.4 million illegally cast Biden votes in PA, and about 54k illegally counted in WI–according to the courts.

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  7. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    5

    I am tired of being proven wrong

    • #67
  8. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    @Ontheleftcoast

    Keith Lowery (View Comment):

    They obtained some 10 trillion cell phone “signals” using a petabyte of data.

    What is the provenance of this data? Have they made it available for 3rd parties to inspect? What is the resolution of the geo data? What, exactly, IS the “signals” data? Do they describe their analytical methodology in detail?

    I have no insight into the question of whether the election was stolen. I’m just a data guy. The movie’s credibility, for me, hinges on the provenance, quality, and treatment of the data.

    Do they discuss this in detail?

    In an interview with Steve Bannon, Engelbrecht said that they purchased it on the open market. Cell phone companies sell the data on a massive scale. TTV said that they bought it from brokers. 

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  9. Ontheleftcoast Inactive
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    @Ontheleftcoast

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Second question: Suppose the GOP wins the House and the senate in 2024. Do the elections skeptics say, “Oh, I guess we were wrong,” and then drop their guard against more Democrat chicanery in 2024?

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Beliefs about the 2020 Election tend to be premised on a false dichotomy: You’re either “Stolen Election” or “Big Lie.” I think it’s more of a continuum.

    0 – The 2020 election was absolutely clean, the fairest election in history, and exactly as reported.

    1 – There were some minor shenanigans at the margins, but they had no effect on the outcome.

    2 – There was a moderate level of shenanigans, and they could have changed the outcome of the election, but probably not.

    3- There were significant irregularities involving primarily mail-in ballots and these may have changed the outcome of the election.

    4 – There was major fraud involving a large but known number of illegitimate votes that most likely swung the election in purple states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.

    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    I’m about at a 3. Where are you?

    Rationally, about 4.5. Emotionally, about 8.

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  10. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    @DonG

    Ontheleftcoast (View Comment):

    I have no insight into the question of whether the election was stolen. I’m just a data guy. The movie’s credibility, for me, hinges on the provenance, quality, and treatment of the data.

    Do they discuss this in detail?

    In an interview with Steve Bannon, Engelbrecht said that they purchased it on the open market. Cell phone companies sell the data on a massive scale. TTV said that they bought it from brokers. 

    The data comes from aggregators, who get the position, phone id, and timestamps from application authors.  You should assume that any app you installed for free is reporting lots of data on you, whenever it connects to a network.

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  11. ToryWarWriter Coolidge
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    Hey!  Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    • #71
  12. Architectus Coolidge
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    @Architectus

    Watched it tonight, very compelling.  Have a look and spread the word.  The more this is reviewed, backchecked and verified by qualified people, the better.  

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  13. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Hey! Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    “Conspiracy theory” has become synonymous with “spoiler alert”.

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  14. namlliT noD Member
    namlliT noD
    @DonTillman

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    Massive collaboration, you say?

    Republicans have a long history of sucking at collaboration.  Examples include the RINOs and the Never Trumpers.   The Republicans in congress almost never vote together.  Recall how John Effing McCain cast the deciding vote to save Obamacare just to spite President Trump.  In the 2016 US Senate election in California, it was jungle primary, where the top two go on to the general election regardless of party.  And what did the Republicans do?  Of course they split the vote between 3 (main) candidates, so no Republican made it to the general, and that’s how you got Senator Kamala.

    The Democrats have become very proficient at collaboration.  The Democrats in congress always vote together, in lock step, every time.  Why?  Because it multiplies their political power.   By a lot.   And when it’s time to push a lie by acting absolutely insane, like during the Kavanaugh hearings, or during the bogus impeachments, they follow the script exactly.  When they speak on any topic, they follow the talking points exactly.

    The Antifa and BLM riots during the summer of 2020 were also well orchestrated; the chosen cities, the rioters, transportation, the talking points, but also the mayors and the police departments being order not to arrest anybody.  All highly coordinated.

    And there was a lot of collaboration with the deep state for the Hunter Biden Laptop from Hell, and the Steele Dossier, the wiretapping, and much more.

    So what may seem like “massive collaboration” to conservatives, is like Wednesday to the dems.

    Where to get the mules?  As the film noted, they have id matches for Antifa and BLM rioters.

    The next part of that sentence is about money.   The Dems spent zero on rallies, and roughly zero on ads.   So there’s plenty of money available without even considering Zuckerberg or Soros.

    (Actually there’s probably a lot more than that.  Wikipedia usually provides the cost of US presidential elections.  They report $2 billion for 2012,  they break it down in more detail to $1.27 billion for 2016, though that might not be correct, and they give up for 2020, instead referencing an Open Secrets report of $14 billion.  Who knows?)

    So my point is that this level 5 completely falls into the category of “regular stuff”.

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  15. Vince Guerra Inactive
    Vince Guerra
    @VinceGuerra

    Because Newsmax, Foxnews, the GOP and NeverTrumpers don’t care about America or truth or us. 

    • #75
  16. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    @danok1

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Hey! Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    Nah, you were just early.

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  17. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Hey! Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    Nah, you were just early.

    Funny how that works.  

    You see / say something that you think is most likely true but the zeitgeist says is not and you get labeled a  Conspiracy Theorist.  Item you thought was true comes out as true and the zeitgeist sorts of forgets about it, but you get to keep the Conspiracy Theorist label.  You would think getting it right would erase the label but it does not.  You do it a couple of times and you become Crazy Conspiracy Theorist.  Do it too much and you are a cynic.  

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  18. Boney Cole Member
    Boney Cole
    @BoneyCole

    Kelly D Johnston (View Comment):

    Keith Lowery (View Comment):

    They obtained some 10 trillion cell phone “signals” using a petabyte of data.

    What is the provenance of this data? Have they made it available for 3rd parties to inspect? What is the resolution of the geo data? What, exactly, IS the “signals” data? Do they describe their analytical methodology in detail?

    I have no insight into the question of whether the election was stolen. I’m just a data guy. The movie’s credibility, for me, hinges on the provenance, quality, and treatment of the data.

    Do they discuss this in detail?

    Fair questions; they do not discuss it in great detail. I am not aware they have made it available to credible third parties for inspection – they should. I do think they explain the “signals” data, but it may not satisfy you. As an investor last year in a nonprofit that used geofencing and geospatial data to identify and register evangelical voters in Virginia’s gubernatorial election, and having seen how it works, I am more confident in their data than perhaps you are.

    I would like to hear more about the Virginia experience.  Maybe you could do a post on that.

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  19. Kelly D Johnston Inactive
    Kelly D Johnston
    @SoupGuy

    For those interested in learning more about geofencing and the accuracy of its data – which AP “factcheckers” and others are challenging concerning D’Souza’s film – check out this 2018 New York Times story. It takes an in-depth and highly accurate (for a change) look at the technology, its uses, and its implications. 

    Today’s Richmond (VA)  Times-Dispatch provides another real-life example of how it is used to help solve crimes. The movie provided one as well. 

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  20. Stina Inactive
    Stina
    @CM

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Hey! Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    Nah, you were just early.

    Funny how that works.

    You see / say something that you think is most likely true but the zeitgeist says is not and you get labeled a Conspiracy Theorist. Item you thought was true comes out as true and the zeitgeist sorts of forgets about it, but you get to keep the Conspiracy Theorist label. You would think getting it right would erase the label but it does not. You do it a couple of times and you become Crazy Conspiracy Theorist. Do it too much and you are a cynic.

    So much this. It’s the only thing keeping me sane. Dollars to donuts, the initial reaction is going to be 100% wrong.

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  21. AMD Texas Coolidge
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    @DarinJohnson

    Keith Lowery (View Comment):

    They obtained some 10 trillion cell phone “signals” using a petabyte of data.

    What is the provenance of this data? Have they made it available for 3rd parties to inspect? What is the resolution of the geo data? What, exactly, IS the “signals” data? Do they describe their analytical methodology in detail?

    I have no insight into the question of whether the election was stolen. I’m just a data guy. The movie’s credibility, for me, hinges on the provenance, quality, and treatment of the data.

    Do they discuss this in detail?

    Very good questions. It has been reported that the data is going to be made available for outside analysys sometime in the very near future. Let’s hope that it is. 

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  22. AMD Texas Coolidge
    AMD Texas
    @DarinJohnson

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    Beliefs about the 2020 Election tend to be premised on a false dichotomy: You’re either “Stolen Election” or “Big Lie.” I think it’s more of a continuum.

    0 – The 2020 election was absolutely clean, the fairest election in history, and exactly as reported.

    1 – There were some minor shenanigans at the margins, but they had no effect on the outcome.

    2 – There was a moderate level of shenanigans, and they could have changed the outcome of the election, but probably not.

    3- There were significant irregularities involving primarily mail-in ballots and these may have changed the outcome of the election.

    4 – There was major fraud involving a large but known number of illegitimate votes that most likely swung the election in purple states like Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona.

    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    I’m about at a 3. Where are you?

    3 for me

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  23. The Cynthonian Inactive
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):
    5- There was a massive collaboration between the Deep State, the Democrat Party, and Activist Organizations funded by Zuckerberg and Soros that generated millions of illegitimate votes to steal the election.

    Massive collaboration, you say?

    Republicans have a long history of sucking at collaboration. Examples include the RINOs and the Never Trumpers. The Republicans in congress almost never vote together. Recall how John Effing McCain cast the deciding vote to save Obamacare just to spite President Trump. In the 2016 US Senate election in California, it was jungle primary, where the top two go on to the general election regardless of party. And what did the Republicans do? Of course they split the vote between 3 (main) candidates, so no Republican made it to the general, and that’s how you got Senator Kamala.

    The Democrats have become very proficient at collaboration. The Democrats in congress always vote together, in lock step, every time. Why? Because it multiplies their political power. By a lot. And when it’s time to push a lie by acting absolutely insane, like during the Kavanaugh hearings, or during the bogus impeachments, they follow the script exactly. When they speak on any topic, they follow the talking points exactly.

    This is why they are so angry at Sinema and Manchin.   They’re not abiding by the leadership’s dictates.   I expect Sinema to be primaried from the left in 2024, which will be very entertaining to watch.

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  24. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    @DonG

    Kelly D Johnston (View Comment):
    Fair questions; they do not discuss it in great detail. I am not aware they have made it available to credible third parties for inspection – they should.

    Surely the data license would not allow them to share that.   They did make reports and summaries available to FBI and GBI that ignored the findings. 

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  25. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    ToryWarWriter (View Comment):

    Hey! Am I still a crazy conspiracy theorist now?

    Always.

    Even more scary now you have fired guns!

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  26. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Kelly D Johnston (View Comment):

    For those interested in learning more about geofencing and the accuracy of its data – which AP “factcheckers” and others are challenging concerning D’Souza’s film – check out this 2018 New York Times story. It takes an in-depth and highly accurate (for a change) look at the technology, its uses, and its implications.

    Today’s Richmond (VA) Times-Dispatch provides another real-life example of how it is used to help solve crimes. The movie provided one as well.

    They can sometimes do accurate reporting if they don’t (yet) see how it might hurt them politically.

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  27. Mountie Coolidge
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    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    Mountie (View Comment):

    Try this: do a Google search on “2000 mules gaping holes”. Look the hits you get. These clowns in the MSM can’t even pretend to not being spoon fed

    Those are all syndicated copies of the very-quickly-written Ali Swenson article for AP, right?

    Yup. They are too lazy and inept and disinterested to do their job. 

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  28. namlliT noD Member
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    @DonTillman

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    […]

    The Democrats have become very proficient at collaboration. The Democrats in congress always vote together, in lock step, every time. Why? Because it multiplies their political power. By a lot. And when it’s time to push a lie by acting absolutely insane, like during the Kavanaugh hearings, or during the bogus impeachments, they follow the script exactly. When they speak on any topic, they follow the talking points exactly.

    This is why they are so angry at Sinema and Manchin. They’re not abiding by the leadership’s dictates. I expect Sinema to be primaried from the left in 2024, which will be very entertaining to watch.

    Yes.  Sinema and Manchin are the exception that proves the rule.  Yeah, I hate that phrase too.

    But the point is that things have become so crazy and extreme that two democrat senators have finally stood up.  And that hasn’t happened in a long time.

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  29. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
    DonG (CAGW is a Hoax)
    @DonG

    Mountie (View Comment):

    Those are all syndicated copies of the very-quickly-written Ali Swenson article for AP, right?

    Yup. They are too lazy and inept and disinterested to do their job. 

    “Lazy and inept” is the business model of modern corporate media. 

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  30. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    The Cynthonian (View Comment):

    namlliT noD (View Comment):

    […]

    The Democrats have become very proficient at collaboration. The Democrats in congress always vote together, in lock step, every time. Why? Because it multiplies their political power. By a lot. And when it’s time to push a lie by acting absolutely insane, like during the Kavanaugh hearings, or during the bogus impeachments, they follow the script exactly. When they speak on any topic, they follow the talking points exactly.

    This is why they are so angry at Sinema and Manchin. They’re not abiding by the leadership’s dictates. I expect Sinema to be primaried from the left in 2024, which will be very entertaining to watch.

    Yes. Sinema and Manchin are the exception that proves the rule. Yeah, I hate that phrase too.

    But the point is that things have become so crazy and extreme that two democrat senators have finally stood up. And that hasn’t happened in a long time.

    I sure don’t remember McCain standing up to the Democrats like that.

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