My Dear Friends on the Left: What Happened to You?

 

Half a century ago, when I was a young man, you were the ones celebrating individuality and anything-goes self-expression.

Back then, you were the ones burning the draft cards and defying authority. Today you’re a masked lump sitting on an airport bench, scolding with narrowed eyes anyone who delights in the air touching her face. What happened to you?

Back then, you were the ones demanding to be heard, saying the things the establishment didn’t want to hear, speaking truth to power. Today the phrase “free speech” terrifies you, and you offer a dozen excuses why we’re better off muzzled and restrained by those in power, like some kind of pet.

Back then, you cheered a good man as he made a great speech, sharing his dream of a future when what mattered was a man or woman’s character, not his or her skin. He died for that vision, but you lived it. Today you’re demanding segregated events, branding people “racist” for being the wrong color, obsessing about trivial differences as if they alone define a person and give him his worth.

Back then, women burned their bras and roared and you, fists in the air, roared with them: women could do anything and everything. Today you reject the very idea that “women” exist: your Woman of the Year is a man, and men lay claim to womanhood and everything that women fought to secure for themselves.

What happened to you? Yes, you got old; we all got old. But you didn’t have to become the thing you rebelled against. You didn’t have to embrace fear.

Dare to stand again for the things you once believed.

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  1. Stad Coolidge
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    I give this rant five stars out of five . . .

    • #31
  2. W Bob Member
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    They never changed. 

    The commonality between then and now is that the left attacks what it perceives to be establishment beliefs and values. Burning bras wasn’t in contrast to where the left is now. It was one step toward their current stance on gender. 

    Then and now, the purpose of their positions and demands is to create stumbling blocks for average people with traditional beliefs and values, thereby creating a politically adversarial environment which they can take advantage of to gain power. 

     

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  3. EHerring Coolidge
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    Jerry Giordano (Arizona Patrio… (View Comment):

    Hank, my suspicion is that many on the Left never stood for the things that you mention.

    Have you looked into an essay called Repressive Tolerance by Herbert Marcuse? He was one of the leading figures in postmodernism and critical theory, especially in the 1960s. James Lindsay has a good series of podcasts about this particular essay, available on YouTube (Lindsay’s channel is called “New Discourses”). Here’s a link to the first podcast in the series, if you’re interested.

    Marcuse’s argument is somewhat complicated. My own summary is that he believed that non-Leftists have a false consciousness, making them unaware of their oppression. To liberate them and bring about the Leftist utopia, Leftist ideas and actions must be tolerated, and conservative or Right-wing viewpoints cannot be tolerated. So, for example, Leftist actions much be tolerated even when it is violent, while Right-wing actions must not be tolerated even if peaceful.

    Lindsay’s series is somewhat lengthy — 4 podcasts of about an hour each. I found them to be worth it.

    If you’re not immediately familiar with Lindsay’s name, he is one of the three people who did the “hoax papers” that became known as the “grievance studies affair,” essentially getting nonsense published in peer-reviewed journals in the grievance studies area. The other two were Peter Boghossian and Helen Pluckrose. Lindsay and Pluckrose wrote the recent book “Cynical Theories.”

     

    A deeper dive into Marcuse would be interesting for those of us with time. For those who need the Cliff notes version that describes the beliefs of all the Frankfurt school Marxists, I recommend The Devil’s Pleasure Palace. Critical Theory is cultural Marxism. Walsh describes it from a cultural perspective, something politicians and political science majors can’t do.

    Thank you, Jerry, for the added homework. I am thinking it would be good to create a critical theory group where we, all who are interested,  can pool our comments, ideas, links, and research. Posts like this get lost after a week. Thoughts?

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  4. David Carroll Thatcher
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    When you are the oppressed, you call for free speech.

    When you are the oppressor, you call free speech “disinformation.”

    • #34
  5. EHerring Coolidge
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: What happened to you? Yes, you got old; we all got old. But you didn’t have to become the thing you rebelled against.

    Looking back, it seems obvious progressives never had any fixed first principles. Progressives are all about amassing power NOW! So they will embrace and reject first principles based on their utility in amassing power TODAY!

    Free Speech? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    Racial Essentialism? Back when sapped our power, no! Now that it brings us power? Yes!

    Women’s Rights? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    And don’t get me started on “Populism”.

    You just hit on several topics Michael Walsh covered in his book.

    • #35
  6. EHerring Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    To what extent are they the same people? There are quite a few former Leftists who are now conservative/libertarian. Some of those who are bloggers have written essays or books about their political transition.

    Horowitz.

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  7. EHerring Coolidge
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Relevant post at Samizdata:

    Once upon a time there were Progressives who actually believed in progress, who despite their flaws did believe in a brighter and better future. These were supplanted c. 1970 by a new Left with the new motto “Learn to live with less, you hate-filled greedy bastards!”

    Link

     

    They all believed in progress. Sadly, their idea of achieving progress was based on their idea of what progress is and how best to get there. Often, their idea of progress was counter to founding principles and the constitution. That is why both are their enemies.

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  8. EHerring Coolidge
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    Don’t confuse the Marxist left with the young skulls full of mush lefties who were the useful idiots of the Marxist lefties.

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  9. David Foster Member
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    Retail Lawyer (View Comment):
    Mark Bauerlein (he of the First Things podcast) offers a theory in his book, The Dumbest Generation Grows up.  He thinks its from lack of reading good books, which apparently is only done by oldsters these days.  He makes a good case.  It is certainly one of the factors.  He says literature teaches that good people can have bad features or episodes

    Fiction and empathy

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  10. jorge espinha Inactive
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    What about us?

    What have we become?

    In Europe we became a movement of no principles, we turned our backs on the little guy. We don´t defend the culture or stand by our history. We left issues like immigration and patriotism to the far right. We let the left take over the institutions. We mumble a bit about the need to pay the bills but that’s it. 

    In America what have you done? Where’s the party of small government? Why did you give up on the black vote? Since when is the confederate flag compatible with a party of Lincoln? Why isn’t the GOP the main party in the suburbs? Why have you left the big cities to the Democrats? Why do so many think that all it takes to be a conservative is to hate the left? Aren’t the left our brothers, sisters, nieces, wives, husbands, friends, etc? Why do we imitate the left in their hate? 

    Both in America and in Europe we stopped talking sense. We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

     

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  11. Henry Racette Member
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    What about us?

    What have we become?

    In Europe we became a movement of no principles, we turned our backs on the little guy. We don´t defend the culture or stand by our history. We left issues like immigration and patriotism to the far right. We let the left take over the institutions. We mumble a bit about the need to pay the bills but that’s it.

    In America what have you done? Where’s the party of small government? Why did you give up on the black vote? Since when is the confederate flag compatible with a party of Lincoln? Why isn’t the GOP the main party in the suburbs? Why have you left the big cities to the Democrats? Why do so many think that all it takes to be a conservative is to hate the left? Aren’t the left our brothers, sisters, nieces, wives, husbands, friends, etc? Why do we imitate the left in their hate?

    Both in America and in Europe we stopped talking sense. We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

     

    Jorge,

    I don’t agree with most of what you wrote, but that’s really beside the point: On the issues I mentioned in the post, no, I never became something else.

    Racial identitarianism, the negation of womenhood, censorship and speech controls, and a slavish obedience to authoritarian expertise are features of the modern left. It is people tempted to embrace those views to whom I’m speaking.

    H.

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  12. David Foster Member
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

    1. Recognition that China is a serious competitor & potential adversary (contrast to Biden, who said ‘they’re no competition for us’)…was that crazy?
    2. Understanding that excessive offshoring has led to unemployment and ‘diseases of despair’ (drug addiction, for instance) and that it creates American security vulnerability…crazy?
    3. Understanding that a nation-state needs a controllable border, until recently a noncontroversial assertion…crazy?
    4. Major steps toward peace in the Middle East, via the Abraham Accords, rather than letting the Palestinian leadership block everything….crazy?
    5. Increasing American energy independence…had this continued, and had European nations followed the same course, there would have likely been no Ukraine invasion by Putin.

    …and lots more.

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  13. Michael Brehm Lincoln
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    “When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”

    ― Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

    • #43
  14. jorge espinha Inactive
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

    1. Recognition that China is a serious competitor & potential adversary (contrast to Biden, who said ‘they’re no competition for us’)…was that crazy?
    2. Understanding that excessive offshoring has led to unemployment and ‘diseases of despair’ (drug addiction, for instance) and that it creates American security vulnerability…crazy?
    3. Understanding that a nation-state needs a controllable border, until recently a noncontroversial assertion…crazy?
    4. Major steps toward peace in the Middle East, via the Abraham Accords, rather than letting the Palestinian leadership block everything….crazy?
    5. Increasing American energy independence…had this continued, and had European nations followed the same course, there would have likely been no Ukraine invasion by Putin.

    …and lots more.

    I don’t see how “middle of road republican” couldn’t achieve the same Without the crass behaviour(except 4). I grant you in that list that number 4 could only be done by Trump. Nr 1 ; why didn’t he pursue negotiation with the Asian Pacific countries? 3 why didn’t the GOP that at the time controlled both houses finished the damn wall? 

    • #44
  15. jorge espinha Inactive
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    What about us?

    What have we become?

    In Europe we became a movement of no principles, we turned our backs on the little guy. We don´t defend the culture or stand by our history. We left issues like immigration and patriotism to the far right. We let the left take over the institutions. We mumble a bit about the need to pay the bills but that’s it.

    In America what have you done? Where’s the party of small government? Why did you give up on the black vote? Since when is the confederate flag compatible with a party of Lincoln? Why isn’t the GOP the main party in the suburbs? Why have you left the big cities to the Democrats? Why do so many think that all it takes to be a conservative is to hate the left? Aren’t the left our brothers, sisters, nieces, wives, husbands, friends, etc? Why do we imitate the left in their hate?

    Both in America and in Europe we stopped talking sense. We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

     

    Jorge,

    I don’t agree with most of what you wrote, but that’s really beside the point: On the issues I mentioned in the post, no, I never became something else.

    Racial identitarianism, the negation of womenhood, censorship and speech controls, and a slavish obedience to authoritarian expertise are features of the modern left. It is people tempted to embrace those views to whom I’m speaking.

    H.

    I agree with you 100% regarding the left. I might even have a more radical opinion about them. It’s a cult. They believe they are superior, better, good and that being conservative is a kind of retardation. 

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  16. Ray Gunner Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: What happened to you? Yes, you got old; we all got old. But you didn’t have to become the thing you rebelled against.

    Looking back, it seems obvious progressives never had any fixed first principles. Progressives are all about amassing power NOW! So they will embrace and reject first principles based on their utility in amassing power TODAY!

    Free Speech? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    Racial Essentialism? Back when sapped our power, no! Now that it brings us power? Yes!

    Women’s Rights? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    And don’t get me started on “Populism”.

    Ray, I appreciate the point you’re making. But I don’t entirely agree: I think there were idealistic freedom-loving radicals, back in the day. Some of them became libertarians and kept their values.

    Others became college professors, and sometimes revealed that they never really had any.

    I don’t think we disagree. I was thinking about “progressives,” particularly.  Of course we still have fair minded, boomer-era leftists among us (Stephen Fry; Nadine Strossen) but they seem vastly outnumbered by unprincipled, progressive power grabbers.  

    • #46
  17. David Foster Member
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    I don’t see how “middle of road republican” couldn’t achieve the same Without the crass behaviour(except 4).

    If you want examples of ‘crass behavior’, I give you Joe Biden: bragging (ridiculously) about how much higher his IQ is than that of his questioner, talking about how he wants to take people out behind the barn and beat them up, etc.  Might also consider Bill Clinton.  Further back historically, Lyndon Johnson was notorious for crassness, though this didn’t tend to be visible in public.

    How much of the talk about Trump’s ‘crassness’ is really about his refusal to genuflect to the educationally-credentialed and his non-use of what David Mamet called ‘hieratic language’?

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  18. jorge espinha Inactive
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    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Ray Gunner (View Comment):

    Henry Racette: What happened to you? Yes, you got old; we all got old. But you didn’t have to become the thing you rebelled against.

    Looking back, it seems obvious progressives never had any fixed first principles. Progressives are all about amassing power NOW! So they will embrace and reject first principles based on their utility in amassing power TODAY!

    Free Speech? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    Racial Essentialism? Back when sapped our power, no! Now that it brings us power? Yes!

    Women’s Rights? Back when it brought us power, yes! Now that it might sap our power? Hell, no!

    And don’t get me started on “Populism”.

    Ray, I appreciate the point you’re making. But I don’t entirely agree: I think there were idealistic freedom-loving radicals, back in the day. Some of them became libertarians and kept their values.

    Others became college professors, and sometimes revealed that they never really had any.

    I don’t think we disagree. I was thinking about “progressives,” particularly. Of course we still have fair minded, boomer-era leftists among us (Stephen Fry; Nadine Strossen) but they seem vastly outnumbered by unprincipled, progressive power grabbers.

    Who were their heroes “back in the day”? Che Guevara, Fidel, Ho Chi Min, Mao, Sendero Luminoso, PLO, etc. They never cared for free speech other than their own speech. And it’s an old story, John Dos Passos was a leftist in his youth but the Spanish civil war opened his eyes his pal Hemingway died dumb and this was decades before the 60’s. 

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  19. EHerring Coolidge
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

    1. Recognition that China is a serious competitor & potential adversary (contrast to Biden, who said ‘they’re no competition for us’)…was that crazy?
    2. Understanding that excessive offshoring has led to unemployment and ‘diseases of despair’ (drug addiction, for instance) and that it creates American security vulnerability…crazy?
    3. Understanding that a nation-state needs a controllable border, until recently a noncontroversial assertion…crazy?
    4. Major steps toward peace in the Middle East, via the Abraham Accords, rather than letting the Palestinian leadership block everything….crazy?
    5. Increasing American energy independence…had this continued, and had European nations followed the same course, there would have likely been no Ukraine invasion by Putin.

    …and lots more.

    I don’t see how “middle of road republican” couldn’t achieve the same Without the crass behaviour(except 4).

    [Except they didn’t, they showed no desire to do so but just talked a good game, and they hindered Trump’s ability to do so. Crass behavior has been a White House behavior every time a Dem lived there . They don’t care. It is a case of the left using our standards against us and people falling for it. Twitter is the only example. So what. He was always the well-dressed, stately gentleman in his duties.]

    I grant you in that list that number 4 could only be done by Trump. Nr 1 ; why didn’t he pursue negotiation with the Asian Pacific countries?

    [No support from Congress and Dems made sure he was too busy defending himself from baseless attacks. Dems will do it again the next time, even with DeSantis. We see they don’t need corruption because they will make it up and our side is stupid enough to take the bait.]

    3 why didn’t the GOP that at the time controlled both houses finished the damn wall? 

    [Your beef is with Congress and administrative state, not Trump.]

    My replies in bold above

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  20. Spin Inactive
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    The left have always been the say anything, do anything crowd.  They’ve always been after power and control, and to a large degree they have it now.  Giving up controlling the hive-mind at Twitter absolutely frightens them.  

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  21. Spin Inactive
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Illustrated graphically.

    I like it.

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  22. Headedwest Coolidge
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    I attended college from 1963 to 1967 at a private all-male university in Pennsylvania. In 1963 Republicans were largely the white collar and small business owners and Democrats were blue collar mostly unionized workers. But nearly everybody on both sides was socially conservative.

    The catalyst for the changes I observed in male students stemmed from the Vietnam war and the draft. If you left school you were immediately reclassified 1-A and draftable (and the odds kept going up that you would get drafted).

    The people that followed me at college got more radical every year. They were anti-war radicals mostly for not wanting to be drafted. (We did not fully understand the futile way the war was being conducted until later; that became more obvious as the sixties came to a close.)

    Of course, you’d still get the 1-A after graduation or a year of grad school, but if you worked in certain occupations, you’d get deferred. A lot of guys I knew became school teachers for that reason alone.

    To be one of the cool guys in the anti-war movement, you would adopt the hippie look. There were three pillars of the hippie style at the time:

    1. Demonstrating against the draft

    2. Availability of weed

    3. The belief that “hippie chicks” were easy.

    Of the guys I knew personally, some set of those reasons were stronger than any considered principles about life.

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  23. Henry Racette Member
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    David Foster (View Comment):

    Illustrated graphically.

    David,

    And Elon Musk himself tweeted that graphic out two minutes ago.

    H.

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  24. Spin Inactive
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    EHerring (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

    1. Recognition that China is a serious competitor & potential adversary (contrast to Biden, who said ‘they’re no competition for us’)…was that crazy?
    2. Understanding that excessive offshoring has led to unemployment and ‘diseases of despair’ (drug addiction, for instance) and that it creates American security vulnerability…crazy?
    3. Understanding that a nation-state needs a controllable border, until recently a noncontroversial assertion…crazy?
    4. Major steps toward peace in the Middle East, via the Abraham Accords, rather than letting the Palestinian leadership block everything….crazy?
    5. Increasing American energy independence…had this continued, and had European nations followed the same course, there would have likely been no Ukraine invasion by Putin.

    …and lots more.

    I don’t see how “middle of road republican” couldn’t achieve the same Without the crass behaviour(except 4).

    [Except they didn’t, they showed no desire to do so but just talked a good game, and they hindered Trump’s ability to do so. Crass behavior has been a White House behavior every time a Dem lived there . They don’t care. It is a case of the left using our standards against us and people falling for it. Twitter is the only example. So what. He was always the well-dressed, stately gentleman in his duties.]

    I grant you in that list that number 4 could only be done by Trump. Nr 1 ; why didn’t he pursue negotiation with the Asian Pacific countries?

    [No support from Congress and Dems made sure he was too busy defending himself from baseless attacks. Dems will do it again the next time, even with DeSantis. We see they don’t need corruption because they will make it up and our side is stupid enough to take the bait.]

    3 why didn’t the GOP that at the time controlled both houses finished the damn wall?

    [Your beef is with Congress and administrative state, not Trump.]

    My replies in bold above

    I’m not 24 hours back and a thread that isn’t about Trump has become about Trump.  I’m goin’ back to Twitter now!

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  25. Stina Inactive
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    Spin (View Comment):

    EHerring (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

    1. Recognition that China is a serious competitor & potential adversary (contrast to Biden, who said ‘they’re no competition for us’)…was that crazy?
    2. Understanding that excessive offshoring has led to unemployment and ‘diseases of despair’ (drug addiction, for instance) and that it creates American security vulnerability…crazy?
    3. Understanding that a nation-state needs a controllable border, until recently a noncontroversial assertion…crazy?
    4. Major steps toward peace in the Middle East, via the Abraham Accords, rather than letting the Palestinian leadership block everything….crazy?
    5. Increasing American energy independence…had this continued, and had European nations followed the same course, there would have likely been no Ukraine invasion by Putin.

    …and lots more.

    I don’t see how “middle of road republican” couldn’t achieve the same Without the crass behaviour(except 4).

    [Except they didn’t, they showed no desire to do so but just talked a good game, and they hindered Trump’s ability to do so. Crass behavior has been a White House behavior every time a Dem lived there . They don’t care. It is a case of the left using our standards against us and people falling for it. Twitter is the only example. So what. He was always the well-dressed, stately gentleman in his duties.]

    I grant you in that list that number 4 could only be done by Trump. Nr 1 ; why didn’t he pursue negotiation with the Asian Pacific countries?

    [No support from Congress and Dems made sure he was too busy defending himself from baseless attacks. Dems will do it again the next time, even with DeSantis. We see they don’t need corruption because they will make it up and our side is stupid enough to take the bait.]

    3 why didn’t the GOP that at the time controlled both houses finished the damn wall?

    [Your beef is with Congress and administrative state, not Trump.]

    My replies in bold above

    I’m not 24 hours back and a thread that isn’t about Trump has become about Trump. I’m goin’ back to Twitter now!

    Ha! And who started it? An NT!

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  26. jorge espinha Inactive
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

     

    My replies in bold above

    I’m not 24 hours back and a thread that isn’t about Trump has become about Trump. I’m goin’ back to Twitter now!

    Ha! And who started it? An NT!

    My apologies, first to @HenryRacette, I veered off-topic and it was wrong. 

    My apologies to @Spin, I promise to behave from now on.

    @CM, A question, what’s a NT?

     

    Have a good weekend fellows!

     

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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Spin (View Comment):

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    jorge espinha (View Comment):

    David Foster (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    We either became boring and with no ideas (Europe) or crazy (Trump!? Really?).

    I’d challenge the Trump=Crazy assertion…

     

    My replies in bold above

    I’m not 24 hours back and a thread that isn’t about Trump has become about Trump. I’m goin’ back to Twitter now!

    Ha! And who started it? An NT!

    My apologies, first to @ HenryRacette, I veered off-topic and it was wrong.

    My apologies to @ Spin, I promise to behave from now on.

    @ CM, A question, what’s a NT?

     

    Have a good weekend fellows!

     

    It stood for Windows New Technology.

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  28. Larry3435 Inactive
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    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    A question, what’s a NT?

    This is a creature that became extinct in November 2016.  However, like Bigfoot, there are still frequent unverified reports of NT sightings from various quarters.  And, like the gremlins of WWII, these mischievous creatures are attributed to be the cause of all kinds of problems that are otherwise inexplicable in the minds of a certain group of those suffering from a particular variant of TDS.

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  29. jorge espinha Inactive
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    A question, what’s a NT?

    This is a creature that became extinct in November 2016. However, like Bigfoot, there are still frequent unverified reports of NT sightings from various quarters. And, like the gremlins of WWII, these mischievous creatures are attributed to be the cause of all kinds of problems that are otherwise inexplicable in the minds of a certain group of those suffering from a particular variant of TDS.

    A subspecies of RINO? When I get insulted (I will not get offended though) I want to know exactly what I have been called. 

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  30. Stina Inactive
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    Larry3435 (View Comment):

    jorge espinha (View Comment):
    A question, what’s a NT?

    This is a creature that became extinct in November 2016. However, like Bigfoot, there are still frequent unverified reports of NT sightings from various quarters. And, like the gremlins of WWII, these mischievous creatures are attributed to be the cause of all kinds of problems that are otherwise inexplicable in the minds of a certain group of those suffering from a particular variant of TDS.

    I don’t know how you could possibly read anything by GR and not believe in Bigfoot.

    But the guy whining about Trump = crazy aimed at the voters is classic Never Trump posturing.

    I know you aren’t one, but this comment is [redacted for profanity]. More than mine was.

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