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Prescient Philately
Usually the stamp commemorates a historical event, and yes, that’s what as intended here. But things move fast these days.
Surprised it’s not a US stamp.
Well, that’s interesting.
Pretty good, just a shame he’s not holding some kind of missile launcher and the ship isn’t on fire.
It should be. It has suffered massive explosions and has been abandoned. Either a Ukrainian misled or an accident.
The missiles were too big (if it was Ukrainian missiles).
An unrelated onboard fire? That would be almost as embarrasing, but if you know a little about the history of the Russian Navy, not surprising.
Give it time. The largest Russian ship in the Black Sea is on fire, and may be sinking.
How can I get some of these stamps? I would save them for special occasions, like the dozens of Reagan Stamps I have!
Even if the Russians are able to tow it to port (as they claim they are doing)- it is likely a total economic loss. The ship is about 40 years old and Soviet ships were typically designed for a 20 year service life (vs 30 for the USN). The Russians claimed they aimed to keep her in service for 60 years but it isn’t clear she even received her last scheduled overhaul.
hopefully the Russians, due to overweening pride, reconstruct her thereby wasting more money- like they have with their battle cruisers.
It’s missing the rainbow flag on the Soldier.
Moskova was built at the Mykolayiv shipyard. It is in the Ukraine. Don’t know if it is occupied by Russia, but the Russian Federation isn’t going to get the ship back in service during this was. (Assuming it has not sunk.)
However corrupt the Ukrainian government may be, the performance of the Ukrainian military indicates there is relatively little corruption there – or at least a lot less than in the Russian military.
Is that stamp real? I didn’t think “the finger” was universal…
I found the debate over the post “letter” was an interesting aside. I don’t know much about stamps, but from what I read, the Ukrainian equivalent of the Postmaster-General had a vote on whether to keep the standard “V” – for victory and cost the standard 12 UAH and not subject to Russian block or change it to the “F” as pictured here. The F was for the curt reply-turned-battle cry, but would cost 23 UAH. From what I gather, a lot of people are willing to pay a premium for the extra symbolism. Even in stamps, every detail lends itself to a purpose in war.
There was a reference to an actor causing a riot in Ancient Rome after making an obscene gesture at the audience with his middle finger in Suetoneus’s “Twelve Caesars. “
It needs the caption “Russian ship, F— You!” in Ukrainian of course.
Oh, the things Ricochetti know!
Remember the Sheffield.
Personally, I’m not a fan of crude and debased language or, in this case, a crude and debased gesture. I probably would have reacted favorably, once upon a time.
So has the ship been re-commissioned yet as the Submarine Moskva?
I’m all for civil discourse, but I’m not inclined to tone-police people who had their homes blown out from underneath them.
Well, there are times when Golly Gee Whiz is just not enough.
Well, I guess an anti-ship missile could cause a fire if it struck a vessel.
It kinda has to, doesn’t it?
At least if it worked.
Russia confirms the ship sunk while being towed
the news in Moscow will be “Fires extinguished on the cruiser Moskva!”
The Neptune is an Ukrainian upgrade of the Soviet-era Kh-35 (NATO designation AS-20 Kayak). The sources I’ve found say that it is rated for targets 5000 tons of displacement or less. The Moskva is 12,000 tons.
Sometimes you get lucky. The destroyer USS Johnston blazed away at the heavy cruiser IJN Kumano with its 5″ guns and set fire to the Kumano’s superstructure after several hits. That didn’t matter as much as the Johnston’s blowing the Kumano’s bow off with torpedoes a short time later, but every little bit helps.
Russian warships carry their main missile battery in a highly exposed location and can easily be set ablaze by a missile strike. The size of the Moskva is offset by the large complement of 16 large anti-ship missiles – half stored on each side of the ship & easy to hit.
“The cruiser Moskva sank while being towed in a storm. . .”
. . .of Ukrainian missiles.
One of the theories I’ve seen is that the Johnston may have hit a torpedo being readied on the Kumano. In addition to the warhead, the Long Lance torpedo contained pressurized oxygen, which could have caused additional trouble if ruptured suddenly by an explosive.
Looks like Moskova will join Ark Royal and Taiho as examples of how not to do damage control.
You didn’t have your home blown out from underneath you.