BLM, All for Naught…

 

#BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman, back in 2012. At the time, Barack Obama was president and starting his second term.

It is now 2022. #BLM has had a full decade in which to make the lives of black Americans better.

All of you genuinely care about the state of black America. So, what has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM? In what ways is a black child born in 2022 better off, safer, happier, and his/her prospects brighter than those of a black child born in 2012?

By way of comparison:  The Southern Christian Leadership Conference was begun in 1957, with Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as its first president. Within four years, interstate bus travel and been desegregated. Within five years, the Civil Rights Act passed, and within six years, the Voting Rights Act had passed in Congress.

Then there’s this:

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  1. Henry Racette Member
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    In fairness, BLM was a useful tool in the successful efforts to remove a President who was unpopular with some folks. So, you know. There’s that.

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  2. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    And if BLM really cared about black lives, they would be against abortion.

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  3. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    In fairness, BLM was a useful tool in the successful efforts to remove a President who was unpopular with some folks. So, you know. There’s that.

    And successfully transferred a large amount of money from mostly white people into the pockets of a few black individuals. 

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  4. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    In fairness, BLM was a useful tool in the successful efforts to remove a President who was unpopular with some folks. So, you know. There’s that.

    And successfully transferred a large amount of money from mostly white people into the pockets of a few black individuals.

    That’s what “improving race relations” usually turns out to be, isn’t it?

    And a lot of that money wound up in the hands of a smaller number of different white people, who sold expensive homes to the BLM leadership and top-level hangers-on.

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  5. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards
    @VanceRichards

    GrannyDude: What has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM?

    Well, these three ladies are living like millionaires now. That would not have been possible with people donating to BLM.

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  6. Dotorimuk Coolidge
    Dotorimuk
    @Dotorimuk

    America is being rebuilt on Black Supremacy.™️

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Dotorimuk (View Comment):

    America is being rebuilt on Black Supremacy.™️

    Which is…  uhhh…. inherently flawed…

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  8. Percival Thatcher
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: What has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM?

    Well, these three ladies are living like millionaires now. That would not have been possible with people donating to BLM.

    Trained Marxist millionaires.

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  9. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    Percival (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: What has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM?

    Well, these three ladies are living like millionaires now. That would not have been possible with people donating to BLM.

    Trained Marxist millionaires.

    Doesn’t Marxism teach that such people would “first up against the wall when the revolution comes?”

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  10. Arahant Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    Doesn’t Marxism teach that such people would “first up against the wall when the revolution comes?”

    But they never are. They’re the ones in charge.

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  11. Percival Thatcher
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Percival (View Comment):

    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: What has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM?

    Well, these three ladies are living like millionaires now. That would not have been possible with people donating to BLM.

    Trained Marxist millionaires.

    Doesn’t Marxism teach that such people would “first up against the wall when the revolution comes?”

    Trained Marxist millionaires know that. They’ll be only too happy to hand it all over. For the People!

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  12. Henry Castaigne Member
    Henry Castaigne
    @HenryCastaigne

    It’s never about the issue. It’s about the Communism and/or the graft. 

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  13. Doug Watt Moderator
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    @DougWatt

    It isn’t Systemic Racism that is the problem, it is Systemic Imbecility. From defunding police departments to Soros prosecutors’, people who can afford to flee dysfunctional cities will leave. People who cannot afford to flee will remain. This is not a racism problem; This is class warfare. 

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  14. kedavis Coolidge
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    Doug Watt (View Comment):

    It isn’t Systemic Racism that is the problem, it is Systemic Imbecility. From defunding police departments to Soros prosecutors’, people who can afford to flee dysfunctional cities will leave. People who cannot afford to flee will remain. This is not a racism problem; This is class warfare.

    But is that really unfair, since it seems like the lower-class/people-who-cannot-afford-to-flee – especially in certain ethnic groups – are, at least often, those most likely to vote for what they claim to not want?

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  15. Roberto, [This space available for advertising] Member
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    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

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  16. kedavis Coolidge
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    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

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  17. Roberto, [This space available for advertising] Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

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  18. kedavis Coolidge
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    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd?  I’m talking about Michael Brown.

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  19. Roberto, [This space available for advertising] Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd? I’m talking about Michael Brown.

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

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  20. Roberto, [This space available for advertising] Member
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    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd? I’m talking about Michael Brown.

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

    Although the scenarios tell a similar story.

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  21. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    Bill Barr’s apparent excuse for not going after BLM rioting etc was that they weren’t collecting information because they would have been accused of racism.

    That’s something he should have worked to correct, or just ignored; not something to hide behind.

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  22. navyjag Coolidge
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    @navyjag

    So how about this? Track all the corporate donations to BLM in the last 3 years. Must be online or in the tax records. Then do a video of the million dollar properties bought by the BLM biggies, especially the $ 6 million one in So. Cal, and then send to stockholders of Coca Cola,etc. with this :  “Look what great investments your company is making to increase the value of your stake in our company.”  Think it could get a reaction?  Hey, NRC get to work. 

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  23. kedavis Coolidge
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    @kedavis

    navyjag (View Comment):

    So how about this? Track all the corporate donations to BLM in the last 3 years. Must be online or in the tax records. Then do a video of the million dollar properties bought by the BLM biggies, especially the $ 6 million one in So. Cal, and then send to stockholders of Coca Cola,etc. with this : “Look what great investments your company is making to increase the value of your stake in our company.” Think it could get a reaction? Hey, NRC get to work.

    You mean like TV ads?  I expect the networks would refuse to run them, Because Racism.

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  24. navyjag Coolidge
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    @navyjag

    U tube. Fox News. Twitter with Elon in charge. We can do this. SEC will approve. 

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  25. Annefy Member
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    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd? I’m talking about Michael Brown.

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

    For me, the worst part about George Floyd is that it was an opportunity for unity. I dare say there’s no one who didn’t watch the first videos and thought: holy crap. We need to do better. Yes George Floyd was under the influence of drugs, and the longer videos enlightened. But .. it was all about passing a counterfeit 20?

    So we had a lovely, brief, 20 seconds or so where everyone said: wait. What? 

    And then that moment was gone. Hard to quantify opportunities lost. That was a big one.

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  26. Stad Coolidge
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    Vance Richards (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: What has improved since 2012 due to the efforts of #BLM?

    Well, these three ladies are living like millionaires now. That would not have been possible with people donating to BLM.

    You didn’t know?  BLM actually stands for “Black Luxury Matters” . . .

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  27. kedavis Coolidge
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    Annefy (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd? I’m talking about Michael Brown.

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

    For me, the worst part about George Floyd is that it was an opportunity for unity. I dare say there’s no one who didn’t watch the first videos and thought: holy crap. We need to do better. Yes George Floyd was under the influence of drugs, and the longer videos enlightened. But .. it was all about passing a counterfeit 20?

    So we had a lovely, brief, 20 seconds or so where everyone said: wait. What?

    And then that moment was gone. Hard to quantify opportunities lost. That was a big one.

    I’m not sure what the solution is supposed to be.  Really, the escalation of force is not up to the police, if they’re expected to get compliance.  Which is usually the case.  If you’re driving the wrong way down a one-way street, or something, and you’re stopped and told not to, and then you continue doing it anyway, you’re likely to get arrested.  If you resist arrest, maybe including assaulting the cops and trying to take their weapons, you may end up dead.  But really, wasn’t that up to you?  If you say “driving the wrong way down a one-way street isn’t worth someone dying,” okay, but then what?  Everyone can do whatever they want, because otherwise someone might end up dead?  That leads to lawlessness too.

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  28. Jim McConnell Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    GrannyDude: #BLM started up in response to the death of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager, at the hands of a mixed-race Democrat named George Zimmerman

    This was always a lie, don’t further the lie. Zimmerman’s death an excuse for the lie.It has nothing to do with him and it never did.

    This is like those claiming the “metoo” movement was anything other than a Hollywood PR manufactured effort to cover up the fact that the industry is full of perverts and rapists.

    There’s also the “unarmed black teen” trope, like 6′ 4″, 290 lb 18-year-old-adult Michael Brown who was trying to grab a cop’s gun.

    He was a grown man who died of either excessive force or a drug overdose and we will never ever know for certain because those beasts who wanted to use his death as a prop for their politics made certain that the only outcome was a show trial letting everyone know the “correct” opinion.

    Are you talking about George Floyd? I’m talking about Michael Brown.

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

    For me, the worst part about George Floyd is that it was an opportunity for unity. I dare say there’s no one who didn’t watch the first videos and thought: holy crap. We need to do better. Yes George Floyd was under the influence of drugs, and the longer videos enlightened. But .. it was all about passing a counterfeit 20?

    So we had a lovely, brief, 20 seconds or so where everyone said: wait. What?

    And then that moment was gone. Hard to quantify opportunities lost. That was a big one.

    I’m not sure what the solution is supposed to be. Really, the escalation of force is not up to the police, if they’re expected to get compliance. Which is usually the case. If you’re driving the wrong way down a one-way street, or something, and you’re stopped and told not to, and then you continue doing it anyway, you’re likely to get arrested. If you resist arrest, maybe including assaulting the cops and trying to take their weapons, you may end up dead. But really, wasn’t that up to you? If you say “driving the wrong way down a one-way street isn’t worth someone dying,” okay, but then what? Everyone can do whatever they want, because otherwise someone might end up dead? That leads to lawlessness too.

    Seattle has found a solution to that problem; they stopped issuing citations for things like defective auto equipment, expired tags, etc. Because of disparate impact, you know. RushBabe reported on this awhile back.

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    Seattle has found a solution to that problem; they stopped issuing citations for things like defective auto equipment, expired tags, etc. Because of disparate impact, you know. RushBabe reported on this awhile back.

    Seattle has been declining into lawlessness for some time already, this is just more of the same.

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  30. Annefy Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Annefy (View Comment):

    Roberto, [This space available… (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    snip 

    You are correct, it’s not the same case but the similarities are making it hard for me to keep up with the latest “outrage”. Mea culpa

    For me, the worst part about George Floyd is that it was an opportunity for unity. I dare say there’s no one who didn’t watch the first videos and thought: holy crap. We need to do better. Yes George Floyd was under the influence of drugs, and the longer videos enlightened. But .. it was all about passing a counterfeit 20?

    So we had a lovely, brief, 20 seconds or so where everyone said: wait. What?

    And then that moment was gone. Hard to quantify opportunities lost. That was a big one.

    I’m not sure what the solution is supposed to be. Really, the escalation of force is not up to the police, if they’re expected to get compliance. Which is usually the case. If you’re driving the wrong way down a one-way street, or something, and you’re stopped and told not to, and then you continue doing it anyway, you’re likely to get arrested. If you resist arrest, maybe including assaulting the cops and trying to take their weapons, you may end up dead. But really, wasn’t that up to you? If you say “driving the wrong way down a one-way street isn’t worth someone dying,” okay, but then what? Everyone can do whatever they want, because otherwise someone might end up dead? That leads to lawlessness too.

    I don’t disagree. 

    Everyone is always saying we need “a conversation”. I agree with that statement but I’d like to choose the topic. There’s a real gap (I think) in what people know and what we think they know. I hammered into my kids how to talk to a cop and how to behave if they got pulled over. And because two of them sported Mohawks and drove beaters, it was a lesson they needed. 

    I’d like every single person to get that lesson. And have a cop describe to them what might happen if they resist. And why it’s important that they don’t. And then the cop can explain how vulnerable they feel when approaching a stopped vehicle.

    And I’d like ever single cop to have a conversation with me, and I can explain to them how infuriating it is to get stopped and harassed over nothing, and how that has long term effects on people’s attitudes towards policing. 

     

     

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