Russia’s Plan for Ukraine? Genocide

 

Russia has dropped the maskirovka about its goals in the “Special Operation” in Ukraine.  RIA Novosty, a Russian Federation state-owned domestic news agency recently published an article that outlines the real goals of their invasion. It’s as if Goebbels had published a synopsis of the Wannsee Conference in the Völkischer Beobachter.

From Putin’s initial lie that the “special Operation” was aimed at liberating the Ukrainian population from its evil Nazi government, the article expands the aim of exterminating Ukrainian nationhood. Forever. What follows are some of the highlights of the article.

You can read the entire article, rescued by the Wayback Machine, here.

The operation to de-nazify Ukraine, which has started with a military phase, will follow in peacetime the same logic of progression as the military operation. With each step, it will be necessary to succeed in implementing irreversible changes, which would become the building blocks of the following step. For this, the necessary first steps of de-nazification can be defined the following way:

•     The liquidation of armed Nazi formation (which is understood to include any Ukrainian armed formations, including the Armed Forces of Ukraine), as well as anything that assists in their military, informational, and educational infrastructure

•      The creation of bodies for popular self-rule, as well as law enforcement (both for security and law and order) on liberated territory, to protective people from terrorist acts of insurgent Nazi groups

•     The implementation of the Russian information space

•     The seizure of any educational materials, and a band on educational programs, at all levels, that contain Nazi ideological attitudes

•     Mass investigations to establish personal accountability for war crimes, crimes against humanity, spreading of Nazi ideology and supporting the Nazi regime

•     Lustration, publicizing the names of the accomplices of the Nazi regime, engaging them in forced labor to repair destroyed infrastructure as part of their punishment for Nazi activities (for those that wouldn’t be sentenced to death or imprisonment)

•     The adoption, at a local level, under Russian advisement, primary normative acts of “grassroots” de-nazification, a ban on all types and forms of reviving Nazi ideology

•     The creation of memorials, commemorative signs, and monuments to the victims of Ukrainian Nazism, and the immortalization of the memory of the heroes that fought against it

•     The creation and adoption of a series of anti-fascist and de-nazificative norms in the constitutions of these new people’s republics

•     The creation of a constantly operating body of de-nazification, for a period of 25 years

Russia will have no compatriots in its de-nazification of Ukraine, seeing as this is purely Russian work, as well as considering that it is not just the Banderite version of Nazi Ukraine that will be eradicated, but also and most of all, Western totalitarianism, the forced programs of civilizational degradation and ruin, the mechanisms of subjugation to the superpower of the West and the USA.

In order to realize the plan of Ukrainian de-nazification, Russian life itself will have to finally rid itself of its pro-European and pro-Western illusions, and accept itself as the last line of defense, and the preserver of, those values of historic Europe (the Old World), which it deserves, and from which the West has ultimately abandoned, losing in a war against itself.

But wait there is more.

De-nazification is necessary when a sizable part of the population – most likely, the majority – has mastered and drawn in the Nazi regime into its politics.

That is, when the theory “the people are good, the government is bad” no longer holds true.

Get that?  The majority of Ukrainians are hopelessly Nazi. And Nazis cannot live.

War criminals and active Nazis have to made an example of. There has to be a total lustration – the liquidation and ban of any organizations that ties themselves to the practice of Nazism. However, aside from the leadership, a good part of the population is also responsible here, who are themselves passive Nazis, accomplices to Nazism.

They supported the Nazi government, and indulged it.

A just punishment for this part of the population can only be found in the burden of the hardships of a just war against the Nazi system,

Denazification can only be conducted by the victor, which assumes 1) its unconditional control over the de-nazification process, and 2) an authority that can facilitate this control. In this respect, a country undergoing de-nazification cannot be sovereign. The de-nazification-leading government – Russia – cannot proceed from a liberal approach regarding denazification.

The ideology of the de-nazifying party cannot be disputed by the guilty party, subjected to de-nazification. Russia’s call for the necessity of de-nazification means that the Crimean scenario cannot work for Ukraine as whole. In fact, this scenario was already unrealistic in 2014, and in the rebellious Donbas.

The Nazification of Ukraine took more than 30 years – starting at a minimum in 1989, when Ukrainian nationalism receive a legal and legitimate form of political self-expression and spearheaded the movement for “independence”, leaning towards Nazism.

A particular feature of Nazified Ukraine is its amorphousness and ambivalentness, which allows for the masking of Nazism as a desire to move towards an “independent” and “European” (Western and pro-American) path of development, (in reality – towards degradation), while insisting that Ukraine “doesn’t have any Nazism, only private and singular excesses.”

An independent Ukraine, that wants to be part of the West, cannot be permitted to exist.

The name “Ukraine,” seemingly, cannot be retained as the title of any fully denazified state entity in a territory liberated from the Nazi regime. The people’s republics, newly created in the space free from Nazism, should and will grow from the practice of economic self-government and social security, and the restoration and modernization of social support systems for the population.

Again, Ukraine cannot exist.

 De-nazification will inevitably be expressed as de-Ukrainianization – the rejection of the artificially divided ethnic component of self-identification, created as far back as under Soviet authority, of the population of the historical territories of Malorossiya and Novorossiya.

Unlike, say, Georgia and the Baltic states, Ukraine, as history has shown, cannot exist in the form of a national government, and attempts to “build” it as such, naturally leads to Nazism. Ukrainianism is an artificial anti-Russian construct, which does not have any civilizational content of its own, and is a subordinate element of a foreign and alien civilization.

This part is particularly sweet.  The way you define a “Nazi” is anyone who wants to be Ukrainian.

De-nazification, as a goal of the special military operation, within the the scope of that operation, is understood as a military victory over the Kyiv regime, the liberation of the territory from armed Nazi supporters, the liquidation of irreconcilable Nazis, the capture of war criminals, as well as the creation of a system of conditions for the following peace-time de-nazification.

The latter, in turn, should begin with the organization of local self-government, law enforcement, and defense bodies, cleansed of Nazi elements. This can be used as the basis to launch the founding processes of a new republican statehood, integrating this statehood into close cooperation with the Russian department for Ukrainian de-nazification (newly created or converted, say, from Rossotrudnichestvo). This, along with the adoption, under Russian control, of a republican regulatory framework (legislation) on de-nazification, the definition of the boundaries and framework for the direct application of Russian law and Russian jurisdiction in the liberated territories in the field of de-nazification, and the creation of a tribunal for crimes against humanity in the former Ukraine. In this regard, Russia should act as the guardian of the Nuremberg Trials.

The plan is to destroy Ukraine as a political entity, to cleanse the land of anyone who longs for independence or even a national identity. To Russia, Ukraine has never existed and is only a part of Mother Russia that must be returned to its status as “Malorus” (Little Russia).  Ukrainian culture will be illegal.  The language will be suppressed. Publishing in Ukrainian will be banned.  Because it’s Nazi.

This is not the first time Ukrainians have been the unwelcome recipients of Russia’s special love. Catherine the Great showed it. Multiple Tsars showed it. Stalin showed it. And Ukraine survived them all. I have no doubt Putler will fail as well, but not before causing immense death and destruction in his Genocide.

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  1. Steven Seward Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Sounds like genocide to me:

    “Russian media amplified an op-ed written by Kremlin-affiliated film director Timofey Sergeytsev on April 3 that outlined specific steps to “denazify Ukraine” and sought to justify Russian atrocities.[15] The op-ed claims the entire Ukrainian Armed Forces are Nazis and called for their total “liquidation.” The op-ed additionally stated Ukraine cannot be an independent state and called for a multi-generational effort to alter the educational, informational, and cultural infrastructure of Ukraine that would inevitably constitute “de-Ukrainization.” The op-ed called for the creation of “systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime,” including the installation of a permanent Russian information space in Ukraine.”

    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-invasion-update-22

    the entire Ukrainian military is to be “liquidated”- and they are already murdering any Ukrainian vets they find- together that would amount to well over 600,000 men-and to kill them will require many many more deaths & murders- but some here will quibble- “well I do not think it is enough murders to call it genocide”- like the dead will be able see the distinction….

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries.  The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying.  In fact the Nazis tried to hide it.  Russians seem to be bragging about it.  It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

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  2. Raxxalan Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Sounds like genocide to me:

    “Russian media amplified an op-ed written by Kremlin-affiliated film director Timofey Sergeytsev on April 3 that outlined specific steps to “denazify Ukraine” and sought to justify Russian atrocities.[15] The op-ed claims the entire Ukrainian Armed Forces are Nazis and called for their total “liquidation.” The op-ed additionally stated Ukraine cannot be an independent state and called for a multi-generational effort to alter the educational, informational, and cultural infrastructure of Ukraine that would inevitably constitute “de-Ukrainization.” The op-ed called for the creation of “systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime,” including the installation of a permanent Russian information space in Ukraine.”

    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-invasion-update-22

    the entire Ukrainian military is to be “liquidated”- and they are already murdering any Ukrainian vets they find- together that would amount to well over 600,000 men-and to kill them will require many many more deaths & murders- but some here will quibble- “well I do not think it is enough murders to call it genocide”- like the dead will be able see the distinction….

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries. The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying. In fact the Nazis tried to hide it. Russians seem to be bragging about it. It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

    Seems foolish if it is meant to cow the Ukrainians.  If they do surrender they are likely to be killed anyway.  The Russians have put them on dying ground they have to fight and win to survive.  

    This is just a guess.  I suspect he has to do this to shore up support at home to allow for further mobilizations, quiet criticism, and keep morale up in the face of sanctions.

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  3. Hang On Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Sounds like genocide to me:

    “Russian media amplified an op-ed written by Kremlin-affiliated film director Timofey Sergeytsev on April 3 that outlined specific steps to “denazify Ukraine” and sought to justify Russian atrocities.[15] The op-ed claims the entire Ukrainian Armed Forces are Nazis and called for their total “liquidation.” The op-ed additionally stated Ukraine cannot be an independent state and called for a multi-generational effort to alter the educational, informational, and cultural infrastructure of Ukraine that would inevitably constitute “de-Ukrainization.” The op-ed called for the creation of “systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime,” including the installation of a permanent Russian information space in Ukraine.”

    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-invasion-update-22

    the entire Ukrainian military is to be “liquidated”- and they are already murdering any Ukrainian vets they find- together that would amount to well over 600,000 men-and to kill them will require many many more deaths & murders- but some here will quibble- “well I do not think it is enough murders to call it genocide”- like the dead will be able see the distinction….

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries. The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying. In fact the Nazis tried to hide it. Russians seem to be bragging about it. It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

    Never heard of Mein Kampf?

     

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  4. MiMac Thatcher
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Sounds like genocide to me:

    “Russian media amplified an op-ed written by Kremlin-affiliated film director Timofey Sergeytsev on April 3 that outlined specific steps to “denazify Ukraine” and sought to justify Russian atrocities.[15] The op-ed claims the entire Ukrainian Armed Forces are Nazis and called for their total “liquidation.” The op-ed additionally stated Ukraine cannot be an independent state and called for a multi-generational effort to alter the educational, informational, and cultural infrastructure of Ukraine that would inevitably constitute “de-Ukrainization.” The op-ed called for the creation of “systemic conditions for the subsequent denazification in peacetime,” including the installation of a permanent Russian information space in Ukraine.”

    https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-invasion-update-22

    the entire Ukrainian military is to be “liquidated”- and they are already murdering any Ukrainian vets they find- together that would amount to well over 600,000 men-and to kill them will require many many more deaths & murders- but some here will quibble- “well I do not think it is enough murders to call it genocide”- like the dead will be able see the distinction….

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries. The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying. In fact the Nazis tried to hide it. Russians seem to be bragging about it. It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

    Never heard of Mein Kampf?

     

    But those who fail to see the evil of Putin just say- Putin didn’t really mean what he said- just like many said about Hitler in the 1930s. It is all relative…..those Poles (or Czechs or Jews or Gypsies or Slavs or today -Ukrainians) aren’t pure either…

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  5. Steven Seward Member
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    Hang On (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries. The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying. In fact the Nazis tried to hide it. Russians seem to be bragging about it. It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

    Never heard of Mein Kampf?

    Hitler never advocated the mass killing of anybody in Mein Kampf.  It was filled with over-the-top hatred for the Jews and other people.  The closest he came to any statements about wanting people dead was this, at the end of the book:

    “At the beginning of the War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison gas, just as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from every social stratum and from every trade and calling had to face it in the field, then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary if twelve thousand of these malefactors had been eliminated in proper time probably the lives of a million decent men, who would be of value to Germany in the future, might have been saved.”

    Hitler is talking about a “wouldn’t it be nice if” moment from the past.  He is referring to World War I and the poison gas he is talking about was the Chlorine, Phosgene,  and Mustard gases that were used by the allies against German soldiers.  Of course he doesn’t mention that the Germans were the ones who introduced the gas weapons in the first place.

    As repugnant as Mein Kampf is, it is not in the ball park with the Russian declarations of liquidating the entire Ukraine military and other groups.  The Nazis never advertised their extermination campaign.  Quite the opposite, they attempted to hide their program from the entire world.

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  6. Manny Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them.  I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

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  7. Steven Seward Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them. I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

    What?  No mention of Biden and Harris uniting the world with their eloquent discourses?!

    • #127
  8. Manny Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them. I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

    Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas

    What a fine leader.  I don’t know what her positions are on other issues, but every time I’ve heard her talk on Russia I am impressed.

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  9. The Reticulator Member
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    Manny (View Comment):
      Manny @Manny 55 Minutes Ago

    Manny (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them. I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

    Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas

    What a fine leader.  I don’t know what her positions are on other issues, but every time I’ve heard her talk on Russia I am impressed.

    She is OK, but that interviewer talks and acts like an American news media person. I can’t stand it, and wasn’t able to watch more than half way. 

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  10. MarciN Member
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    Manny (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them. I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

    Thank you. She is amazing.

     

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  11. Steven Seward Member
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    MarciN (View Comment):

    Manny (View Comment):

    MarciN (View Comment):

    Where are the great and inspiring speeches for the ages against what Putin and the Russians are doing and saying? Where are the world’s statesmen? They don’t even have to write anything. They could quote statesmen from the past. Lord knows, there have been plenty of Putins in the past.

    The prime minister of Estonia has been quite eloquent. Perhaps you can find them. I’ll try to come back later when I have more time.

    Thank you. She is amazing.

    She looks too young to be leading a country.

     

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  12. Kozak Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):
    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries.  The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying.

    That was why I added  this to the post

    Kozak: It’s as if Goebbels had published a synopsis of the Wannsee Conference in the Völkischer Beobachter.

    The Nazis were savvy enough to keep the Wannsee Conference top secret.  RIA Novosty, Russian state media apparently was not sophisticated enough to realize what they were putting out publicly .  They quickly took it down, but the Internet is forever.

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  13. Kozak Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    I made the earlier comment that Hitler was not as blunt when outlining his reasons for attacking European countries. The Nazis surely were not as open about killing their enemies as these Russian publications are saying. In fact the Nazis tried to hide it. Russians seem to be bragging about it. It is also possible that they are trying to terrify the Ukrainians into submission as a desperation measure since their military efforts have been so soundly rebuffed and their economy is collapsing.

    Never heard of Mein Kampf?

    Hitler never advocated the mass killing of anybody in Mein Kampf. It was filled with over-the-top hatred for the Jews and other people. The closest he came to any statements about wanting people dead was this, at the end of the book:

    “At the beginning of the War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison gas, just as hundreds of thousands of our best German workers from every social stratum and from every trade and calling had to face it in the field, then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. On the contrary if twelve thousand of these malefactors had been eliminated in proper time probably the lives of a million decent men, who would be of value to Germany in the future, might have been saved.”

    Hitler is talking about a “wouldn’t it be nice if” moment from the past. He is referring to World War I and the poison gas he is talking about was the Chlorine, Phosgene, and Mustard gases that were used by the allies against German soldiers. Of course he doesn’t mention that the Germans were the ones who introduced the gas weapons in the first place.

    As repugnant as Mein Kampf is, it is not in the ball park with the Russian declarations of liquidating the entire Ukraine military and other groups. The Nazis never advertised their extermination campaign. Quite the opposite, they attempted to hide their program from the entire world.

    Early on the Nazi’s were open to exporting all the Jews, one idea was to send them to the island of Madagascar.  The Final Solution only became official with the Wannsee Conference in 1942.

     

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  14. MiMac Thatcher
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    Things will only get worse:

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s reported appointment of a new general known as the “Butcher of Syria” to oversee the invasion of Ukraine is a choice that shows the Biden administration exactly what to expect as Moscow’s bloody aggression continues”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-putin-new-general-russia-white-house

    • #134
  15. Steven Seward Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Things will only get worse:

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s reported appointment of a new general known as the “Butcher of Syria” to oversee the invasion of Ukraine is a choice that shows the Biden administration exactly what to expect as Moscow’s bloody aggression continues”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-putin-new-general-russia-white-house

    I wouldn’t be so sure that things will get worse.  Several Russian Generals have been killed in the war and several others have been arrested by Putin.  Putting in this guy this guy on top of all else doesn’t bode well for their military competence.  I hope I’m right.

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  16. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    Things will only get worse:

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s reported appointment of a new general known as the “Butcher of Syria” to oversee the invasion of Ukraine is a choice that shows the Biden administration exactly what to expect as Moscow’s bloody aggression continues”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-putin-new-general-russia-white-house

    Why should Biden care?  Seems to me he is more on the side of Russia.  

    • #136
  17. DonG (CAGW is a Hoax) Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):
    Why should Biden care?  Seems to me he is more on the side of Russia.  

    Biden is on the side of the Biden Crime Family and then China.

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  18. The Reticulator Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    Things will only get worse:

    “Russian President Vladimir Putin’s reported appointment of a new general known as the “Butcher of Syria” to oversee the invasion of Ukraine is a choice that shows the Biden administration exactly what to expect as Moscow’s bloody aggression continues”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ukraine-putin-new-general-russia-white-house

    Why should Biden care? Seems to me he is more on the side of Russia.

    His mouth is against Russia.  His actions going back to last summer are more pro-Russia, though he has had to make some concessions to the obvious since the war started.  

    I was annoyed by this item at the above link:

    Meanwhile, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has appealed for stronger military and political support from the West.

    Psaki said that the U.S. is continuing to review every request from Ukraine and is working with allies to meet the country’s needs.

    What kind of weasel talk is this: “review every request?”  Ukraine needs arms, not reviews.  A big battle is brewing in the Izyum region, and time is everything.   If Biden isn’t willing to send arms, he can at least reassure Poland and other countries that the arms they send to Ukraine will be replenished.  He has had weeks to review the weapons that we are able to supply.  Sure, there are decisions yet to be made, but what additional reviewing does he expect to do?  Now is the time for action.  

     

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  19. Raxxalan Member
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    The Reticulator (View Comment):
    Now is the time for action

    Action is something this Whitehouse is very bad at.

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  20. MiMac Thatcher
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    This should clue you in on what to expect as the Russians withdraw/get pushed out of northern Ukraine- lots of dead civilians which Russia can’t hide but wants to preemptively deflect blame:

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  21. MiMac Thatcher
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    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/09/russia-putin-propaganda-ukraine-war-crimes-atrocities/

    the headline:

    Russia’s Ukraine Propaganda Has Turned Fully Genocidal

    Egged on by the language of annihilation and extermination, Russian soldiers have become willing executioners.

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  22. Kozak Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/09/russia-putin-propaganda-ukraine-war-crimes-atrocities/

    the headline:

    Russia’s Ukraine Propaganda Has Turned Fully Genocidal

    Egged on by the language of annihilation and extermination, Russian soldiers have become willing executioners.

    The Orcs openly talk about “going on Safari to kill Ukrainians”.

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  23. The Other Diane Coolidge
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    Has the plan all along been for Putin to kill adults and steal many children?  Reports of 121K children already taken to Russia make me wonder.  Weren’t there stories from Russia several years ago that they were encouraging people to have more sexual relations to help raise their low birth rates?

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  24. The Reticulator Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/09/russia-putin-propaganda-ukraine-war-crimes-atrocities/

    the headline:

    Russia’s Ukraine Propaganda Has Turned Fully Genocidal

    Egged on by the language of annihilation and extermination, Russian soldiers have become willing executioners.

    Thanks for that link.  Sergei “Sputnikov” of the Ushanka Show was quite shaken up by that RIA Novosti article that was mentioned at the beginning.  He got a copy shortly after it was taken down and did an oral translation for us, saying at the end that this was Mein Kampf material. He speculated that it may have been taken down because it made a reference to the war as though it had already been successful, when it was embarrassingly clear to Putin’s people that it was not. 

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  25. MiMac Thatcher
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    Kozak (View Comment):

    MiMac (View Comment):

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/04/09/russia-putin-propaganda-ukraine-war-crimes-atrocities/

    the headline:

    Russia’s Ukraine Propaganda Has Turned Fully Genocidal

    Egged on by the language of annihilation and extermination, Russian soldiers have become willing executioners.

    The Orcs openly talk about “going on Safari to kill Ukrainians”.

    it is a little tougher than a typical safaris, b/c the “fauna” fights back-with great skill & determination.

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