Why ‘Grooming’ Is Le Mot Juste

 

Sanctimonious Anti-Trumper David French went on a tear yesterday defending his Democratic colleagues from being labeled “groomers” over their opposition to Florida’s Parental Rights in Education law and defense of Ketanji Brown Jackson’s slap-on-the-wrist sentences for child pornographers. French and other stalwarts of “principled conservatism” like Charlie Sykes and the Bulwark are very upset at this slandering of their noble leftist colleagues and paymasters. The word “groomer” they insist, is slanderous.

You would think that people so closely associated with the Lincoln Project would have a better understanding of what constitutes a groomer. “Redefining grooming and slinging false accusations of sympathy for pedophilia is pure malice,” French rages, never having displayed quite this much pique at Trump supporters being labeled “Nazis,” “fascists,” or “insurrectionists.”

But, someone who understands Alphabet Activism far better than Mr. French tells us that what the Sexual Activist Left is doing really does fit the definition of grooming, in the sense of preparing children to be the sexual objects of adults.

LGBT activists very tangibly want very young children to be taught they are sexual beings with an endless spectrum of gender options and to defy their parents by demanding they ARE these sexual and gender identities. They completely remove parents from the discussion. Grooming.

Chad Felix Green is spot on. Even if the payoff in the grooming isn’t immediate, the idea is to encourage children to perceive themselves as sexual beings. This will enhance their sexual availability later in life, or perhaps even sooner. Insisting that these conversations be hidden from parents is a major red flag for grooming. I mean, come on, people, it’s not like they’re being subtle about it.

Did you ever think we would reach a point in society where the position that adults shouldn’t have sexual conversations with young children was considered extremist? Did you ever imagine that a man who brands himself as an absolute scion of Christian self-righteousness would be on the side of adult activists who want to have sexual conversations with children to prepare them to become sex objects?

Truly, we live in the worst timeline.

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  1. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo: Did you ever imagine that a man who brands himself as an absolute scion of Christian self-righteousness would be on the side of adult activists who want to have sexual conversations with children to prepare them to become sex objects?

    Yes.

     

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  2. Keith Lowery Coolidge
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    David French was at one time a serious thinker. He was completed wrecked by his Trump obsessions. He’s progressed (see what I did there?)  from being merely unpleasant to comically imbecilic. He is embarrassing himself and is in dire need of being told by someone he trusts to stop it. 

    Cringeworthy.

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  3. Arahant Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo: Truly, we live in the worst timeline.

    You’ll excuse me if I doubt this. There may be timelines that are fully socialist and are run by groomers. Maybe Maoists? After all, he liked them young.

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  4. Kephalithos Member
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    Whether or not the activist types want to prepare kids for sexual encounters with adults, they certainly do want to conscript kids into their liberationist political movement and drive a wedge between children and their parents — and that is something David French should object to. But David French has shown, many times, that he’s not interested in conserving anything — except maybe a vague, therapeutic “niceness” that prostrates itself before any substantive attack on traditional society.

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  5. Arahant Member
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    The rest is good, though.

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  6. Stina Inactive
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    @CM

    David French: “Redefining grooming and slinging false accusations of sympathy for pedophilia is pure malice,” French rages

    Ok, Groomer.

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  7. Gary Robbins Member
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    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”?  (The latter is a banned word by Ricochet.)

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    I have represented children as victims in criminal court, seeking justice for them, and protecting them from terrible parents who betrayed their trust.  A couple of years ago, I terminated the parental rights of a man who had molested his daughter..  Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

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  8. Kephalithos Member
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    Keith Lowery (View Comment): David French was at one time a serious thinker. He was completed wrecked by his Trump obsessions. He’s progressed (see what I did there?) from being merely unpleasant to comically imbecilic. He is embarrassing himself and is in dire need of being told by someone he trusts to stop it.

    Isn’t it funny how sensible Trump skepticism always progresses into . . . well, wokeness?

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  9. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”?

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Dude? You spent five years doing exactly that.

     

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  10. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    My question is this: If, as those opposing the Florida law say, none of this happening, why are they so opposed to the law? Why do they care so much if Florida bans something that isn’t happening? They never have an answer.

    (Works for CRT as well. Why care if CRT in the schools is prohibited if it’s not being taught/the basis for what’s taught?)

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  11. Arahant Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    They started it. Let’s wait until they stop, and then we can stop eighty years later.

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  12. Hang On Member
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    Sorry you had to read  David French’s perverse scribblings to post this. 

    You have to wonder why he is in favor of child abuse. Says a lot about him.

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  13. kedavis Coolidge
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    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Keith Lowery (View Comment): David French was at one time a serious thinker. He was completed wrecked by his Trump obsessions. He’s progressed (see what I did there?) from being merely unpleasant to comically imbecilic. He is embarrassing himself and is in dire need of being told by someone he trusts to stop it.

    Isn’t it funny how sensible Trump skepticism always progresses into . . . well, wokeness?

    Was David French ever a “sensible Trump skeptic?”

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  14. Kephalithos Member
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment): My question is this: If, as those opposing the Florida law say, none of this happening, why are they so opposed to the law? Why do they care so much if Florida bans something that isn’t happening? They never have an answer.

    (Works for CRT as well. Why care if CRT in the schools is prohibited if it’s not being taught/the basis for what’s taught?)

    “Critical race theory isn’t taught in schools, but if it were, it’d be a good thing.”

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  15. Stina Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”? (The latter is a banned word by Ricochet.)

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    I have represented children as victims in criminal court, seeking justice for them, and protecting them from terrible parents who betrayed their trust. A couple of years ago, I terminated the parental rights of a man who had molested his daughter.. Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

    Are you serious???

    Trump didn’t attack the family. Trump didn’t attack parents who were upset over Drag Queen Story Hour.

    Please remove yourself from this conversation.

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  16. Stina Inactive
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    Gary and David French would be happiest if parents just sat down and shut up about what is being taught their kids. It certainly would make French’s life easier.

    I’m shocked neither has come out supporting us being called domestic terrorists for daring to defend our kids against an abusive school system.

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  17. Henry Castaigne Member
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    The left are interested in kids because they understand that you don’t have to make logical arguments with kids and they believe that kids are uncorrupted by society and naturally perfect. Obviously, they want to override their families as the nuclear family has been viewed as a source of corruption since at least Marx. 

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  18. Arahant Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):
    The left are interested in kids because they understand that you don’t have to make logical arguments with kids and they believe that kids are uncorrupted by society and naturally perfect.

    Bring back the Trivium!

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  19. Keith Lowery Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

    @garyrobbins

    The non sequitur here has given me a little bit of whiplash. To be clear, I don’t think anyone has said that it is French’s anti-Trumpism, or anyone else’s, that is motivating the “groomer” appellation.  It is their support for introducing and indoctrinating very young children into the sexual world of adults. Also their interest in doing so without parental consent. 

    French’s whining defense of such people is loathsome, and his complete lack of any sense of humor is tedious and tiresome. He has made himself ridiculous with his non-stop pearl clutching and his scolding self-righteousness.

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  20. kedavis Coolidge
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    The left are interested in kids because they understand that you don’t have to make logical arguments with kids and they believe that kids are uncorrupted by society and naturally perfect. Obviously, they want to override their families as the nuclear family has been viewed as a source of corruption since at least Marx.

    Maybe someone else thought of this before, but just in case I’m the first…

     

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  21. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

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  22. Gary Robbins Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”?

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Dude? You spent five years doing exactly that.

    No.  I have disagreed with the Trump wing of my party.  But, come on.  Some Democrats have taken to refer to MAGA supporters as “maggots.”  That is wrong, just as it is wrong to talk to people who disagree as “groomers.”  

     

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  23. Gary Robbins Member
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    Arahant (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    They started it. Let’s wait until they stop, and then we can stop eighty years later.

    No, that will never end. 

    With clients who are in AA, I have had clients who want to attack the flaws of the other spouse.  I note the AA phrase that we need to clean up our own side of the street.  

    We need to stop calling names now, and call them out when they do it.

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  24. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”?

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Dude? You spent five years doing exactly that.

    No.

    Yes, and don’t try to rewrite your history here, because you’re going to have to go back and delete hundreds of posts and comments.

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  25. Gary Robbins Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Keith Lowery (View Comment): David French was at one time a serious thinker. He was completed wrecked by his Trump obsessions. He’s progressed (see what I did there?) from being merely unpleasant to comically imbecilic. He is embarrassing himself and is in dire need of being told by someone he trusts to stop it.

    Isn’t it funny how sensible Trump skepticism always progresses into . . . well, wokeness?

    Was David French ever a “sensible Trump skeptic?”

    Yes.  It is unfortunate that you cannot distinguish between Trump Skeptics like David French and The Dispatch, Trump Opponents like The Bulwark, and Republican Opponents like The Lincoln Project.

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  26. Gary Robbins Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”? (The latter is a banned word by Ricochet.)

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    I have represented children as victims in criminal court, seeking justice for them, and protecting them from terrible parents who betrayed their trust. A couple of years ago, I terminated the parental rights of a man who had molested his daughter.. Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

    Are you serious???

    Trump didn’t attack the family. Trump didn’t attack parents who were upset over Drag Queen Story Hour.

    Please remove yourself from this conversation.

    Excuse me.  You are not a Moderator or an Editor.  I belong in this conversation like any other member of Ricochet.  Please confine yourself to the issues and not attack other members, or seek to silence them.

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  27. DrewInWisconsin, Oik! Member
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    kedavis (View Comment):

    Kephalithos (View Comment):

    Keith Lowery (View Comment): David French was at one time a serious thinker. He was completed wrecked by his Trump obsessions. He’s progressed (see what I did there?) from being merely unpleasant to comically imbecilic. He is embarrassing himself and is in dire need of being told by someone he trusts to stop it.

    Isn’t it funny how sensible Trump skepticism always progresses into . . . well, wokeness?

    Was David French ever a “sensible Trump skeptic?”

    Yes. It is unfortunate that you cannot distinguish between Trump Skeptics like David French and The Dispatch, Trump Opponents like The Bulwark, and Republican Opponents like The Lincoln Project.

    meme #19 | Fandom

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  28. Stina Inactive
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    Stina (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”? (The latter is a banned word by Ricochet.)

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Calling people outlandish names cuts both ways, and if we want reasoned discourse, it should be discouraged.

    I have represented children as victims in criminal court, seeking justice for them, and protecting them from terrible parents who betrayed their trust. A couple of years ago, I terminated the parental rights of a man who had molested his daughter.. Since I am on the Trump Skeptical part of the Conservative spectrum, am I now a “Groomer” when I have spent my professional life fighting those people?

    Are you serious???

    Trump didn’t attack the family. Trump didn’t attack parents who were upset over Drag Queen Story Hour.

    Please remove yourself from this conversation.

    Excuse me. You are not a Moderator or an Editor. I belong in this conversation like any other member of Ricochet. Please confine yourself to the issues and not attack other members, or seek to silence them.

    [redacted]

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  29. kedavis Coolidge
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    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oik! (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):

    So how would you feel about labeling the “Trump Crime Family”?

    Or calling all Republicans “grifters” or “Trumpk*ns”?

    Or labeling Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz as “Q-Adjacent”?

    Or calling Palin as “Nazi Barbie”?

    Dude? You spent five years doing exactly that.

    No. I have disagreed with the Trump wing of my party. But, come on. Some Democrats have taken to refer to MAGA supporters as “maggots.” That is wrong, just as it is wrong to talk to people who disagree as “groomers.”

     

    You think groomers are just “people who disagree?”

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  30. Gary Robbins Member
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    Stina (View Comment):

    Gary and David French would be happiest if parents just sat down and shut up about what is being taught their kids. It certainly would make French’s life easier.

    I’m shocked neither has come out supporting us being called domestic terrorists for daring to defend our kids against an abusive school system.

    No, no, no, no.  I am fully in support of how Glenn Youngkin has taken on CRT and how the education establishment has sought to take away the rights of parents.  I believe that David French feels the same.  I suggest that you actually read what David French says, and listen to what he actually says. 

    I do not believe that concerned parents are “domestic terrorists.”   David French doesn’t either.

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