Elon Musk Does More for the Conservative Base Than the Entire Conservative Movement Has for Decades

 

How far will Elon Musk’s 9.2% stake and new board member seat go to changing the policies of censorship and targeted harassment by ultra-powerful and corrupt Silicon Valley companies? Time will tell. It is clear he is interested in stopping the abuse and censorship from very powerful companies against large segments of this population.

It has been years of harassment and mistreatment at the hands of big tech that enjoys exemptions and protections under the law for being platforms. They get every benefit in the book. They aren’t liable for anything because they are platforms. They’ve long since decided not to behave as a platform and behave as editors and publishers by mass censoring and banning anyone that doesn’t hold the correct orthodoxy. All the GOP has done is howl into the wind about it.

State AGs, FCC commissioners and regulators, Governors, Congress, and the White House under Trump did nothing but complain and moan in the face of this abuse of tens of millions of their base. Everyone cried about their exemptions under the law but have done nothing to change the law. They’ve also issued no laws protecting speech online or on any business that presents itself as an open platform, thus holding them to their claim of what they are. The entire conservative movement has failed and done nothing about years of ongoing flagrant abuse.

Then one day Elon Musk starts asking conservatives on Twitter how they’ve been treated. He says that’s not right. And now he has a board seat. More action from one man than the entire GOP apparatus and government. If we get more free speech in this country as a result of this, thank Elon. As usual, the GOP and conservative movement are worth nothing and deliver nothing.

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  1. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    Who gets to define what “the conservative movement” is?

    It defines itself by its results. I remember Christ said “you shall know them by their fruits.” We live in a country with 30 trillion plus in debt that will never get paid off in the lifetimes of the people who put it on the clock. And our culture is completely degenerate and they have not cut one dollar of the bureaucracy that abuses their base. You can call them what you want. Their fruits aren’t conservative so neither are they.

    Henry Racette (View Comment):
    But there’s something a little juvenile about celebrating a largely unknown newcomer who makes a flamboyant gesture

    There’s something very juvenile about celebrating oldcomers who are known and haven’t delivered anything for decades but demanding we all tow their line and sing their praises because they’re your team.

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  2. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
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    Tyrion Lannister (View Comment):
    To be fair it was Cocaine Mitch who blocked the nomination of Garland to give Trump his first pick and forced through hundreds of lower court nominees

    Obama was on his way out when the vacancy opened. Had the vacancy opened 2 and a half years into Obama’s term I highly doubt Mitch would have blocked much. He also blocked 2,000 dollars in relief to Americans shut down by the government from earning a living on the eve of the election. And then he got right behind Biden’s relief package. So there isn’t any real conservative principle here. He’s had multiple runs as majority leader and hasn’t solved much of anything or moved the ball anywhere. And he won’t if he’s made majority leader again. He’s elderly and been there for decades. These problems have mounted for decades on his watch. But we are supposed to believe he’s skilled and amazing for blocking a supreme court pick of a lame duck president who had lost both houses and was on the way out within 100 days and change. It’s time to move on from Mitch.

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  3. Steven Seward Member
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    To be fair, as we have learned since roughly 2016 (maybe as early as 2015 but I will leave that debate for for the historians) the conservative movement for the past 30 or so years has mostly been led by leftist grifters such as Bill Kristol, David French, David Frum, etc.

    Almost no conservative that I know, including the people on Ricochet, consider Kristol, French, and Frum, to be conservative leaders.  The only times their names are brought up on Ricochet is to mock or disparage them.

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  4. Steven Seward Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    Elon Musk has been, on balance, quite excellent.

    He is, nevertheless, a shill for Communist China.

    ???????????

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elon-musk-business-ties-china-create-unease-washington

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/elon-musk-mum-on-teslas-china-covid-closure-after-fascist-quip/

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-china-with-new-tesla-plant/

    That kind of changes the whole perspective on this  post as viewing Musk as some sort of conservative savior.

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  5. Gary Robbins Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Gary Robbins (View Comment):
    Fortunately, you are not the gatekeeper on who belongs to the GOP.

    Back at you.

    Bryan, you are a honored and respected member of my party and the conservative movement.

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  6. cdor Member
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    iWe (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    Elon Musk has been, on balance, quite excellent.

    He is, nevertheless, a shill for Communist China.

    ???????????

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elon-musk-business-ties-china-create-unease-washington

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/elon-musk-mum-on-teslas-china-covid-closure-after-fascist-quip/

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-china-with-new-tesla-plant/

    In response to the first linked article, Musk is all about lithium batteries in his businesses. Who makes those?  Isn’t Lithium the rare metal whose USA holdings were sold to Russia during the Obama administration? What billionaire doesn’t have “ties” to China in today’s world? I don’t know much about Musk and have no idea of his inner workings. But that article didn’t raise any hairs on my back. For example, there was this comment:

     

    “China rocks in my opinion,” Mr. Musk said in a July 2020 podcast from Automotive News. “People there—there’s a lot of smart, hardworking people…whereas I see in the United States increasingly much more complacency and entitlement.”

    Former Republican Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado called such comments “tone deaf to the legitimate national security concerns that members of Congress have.” 

    Who would disagree with Musk’s statement? Do you not see the Unites States as being entitled and complacent? I sure do. As a matter of fact, this is the essence of the decline of Western Civilization. Legitimate national security concerns should center around the millions of dollars in bribes given to the Biden family for influence peddling, not around a man who sees the world and describes it as he sees it.

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  7. kedavis Coolidge
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    cdor (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    cdor (View Comment):

    iWe (View Comment):

    Elon Musk has been, on balance, quite excellent.

    He is, nevertheless, a shill for Communist China.

    ???????????

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/elon-musk-business-ties-china-create-unease-washington

    https://nypost.com/2022/03/28/elon-musk-mum-on-teslas-china-covid-closure-after-fascist-quip/

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/24/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-china-with-new-tesla-plant/

    In response to the first linked article, Musk is all about lithium batteries in his businesses. Who makes those? Isn’t Lithium the rare metal whose USA holdings were sold to Russia during the Obama administration? What billionaire doesn’t have “ties” to China in today’s world? I don’t know much about Musk and have no idea of his inner workings. But that article didn’t raise any hairs on my back. For example, there was this comment:

     

    “China rocks in my opinion,” Mr. Musk said in a July 2020 podcast from Automotive News. “People there—there’s a lot of smart, hardworking people…whereas I see in the United States increasingly much more complacency and entitlement.”

    Former Republican Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado called such comments “tone deaf to the legitimate national security concerns that members of Congress have.”

    Who would disagree with Musk’s statement? Do you not see the Unites States as being entitled and complacent? I sure do. As a matter of fact, this is the essence of the decline of Western Civilization. Legitimate national security concerns should center around the millions of dollars in bribes given to the Biden family for influence peddling, not around a man who sees the world and describes it as he sees it.

    But are the Chinese workers he admires, working hard because they’re industrious and want to get ahead?  Or is it because they might otherwise get a bullet in the back of the head, that their family has to pay for?

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  8. Henry Castaigne Member
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    kedavis (View Comment):
    But are the Chinese workers he admires, working hard because they’re industrious and want to get ahead?  Or is it because they might otherwise get a bullet in the back of the head, that their family has to pay for?

    It’s not an either or proposition. 

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  9. Nathanael Ferguson Contributor
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    To be fair, as we have learned since roughly 2016 (maybe as early as 2015 but I will leave that debate for for the historians) the conservative movement for the past 30 or so years has mostly been led by leftist grifters such as Bill Kristol, David French, David Frum, etc.

    Almost no conservative that I know, including the people on Ricochet, consider Kristol, French, and Frum, to be conservative leaders. The only times their names are brought up on Ricochet is to mock or disparage them.

    True. But until around 2016 or shortly thereafter they were considered by many to be conservative leaders. 

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  10. kedavis Coolidge
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    To be fair, as we have learned since roughly 2016 (maybe as early as 2015 but I will leave that debate for for the historians) the conservative movement for the past 30 or so years has mostly been led by leftist grifters such as Bill Kristol, David French, David Frum, etc.

    Almost no conservative that I know, including the people on Ricochet, consider Kristol, French, and Frum, to be conservative leaders. The only times their names are brought up on Ricochet is to mock or disparage them.

    True. But until around 2016 or shortly thereafter they were considered by many to be conservative leaders.

    Especially by the left.  But the left likes to proclaim that the worst conservatives, are the “leaders.”

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  11. Steven Seward Member
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    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    To be fair, as we have learned since roughly 2016 (maybe as early as 2015 but I will leave that debate for for the historians) the conservative movement for the past 30 or so years has mostly been led by leftist grifters such as Bill Kristol, David French, David Frum, etc.

    Almost no conservative that I know, including the people on Ricochet, consider Kristol, French, and Frum, to be conservative leaders. The only times their names are brought up on Ricochet is to mock or disparage them.

    True. But until around 2016 or shortly thereafter they were considered by many to be conservative leaders.

    I once met David Frum and his wife.  He was kind of like he sounds in interviews, not very outgoing and very measured in his responses.  I showed him my portfolio of oil  portrait paintings.  He didn’t seem very impressed, almost like he was put-upon.  Byron York and his wife, however, were very outgoing and warm! (A night at the same party)

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  12. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Byron York and his wife, however, were very outgoing and warm! (A night at the same party)

    Southern gentleman. 

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  13. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
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    kedavis (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    Steven Seward (View Comment):

    Nathanael Ferguson (View Comment):

    To be fair, as we have learned since roughly 2016 (maybe as early as 2015 but I will leave that debate for for the historians) the conservative movement for the past 30 or so years has mostly been led by leftist grifters such as Bill Kristol, David French, David Frum, etc.

    Almost no conservative that I know, including the people on Ricochet, consider Kristol, French, and Frum, to be conservative leaders. The only times their names are brought up on Ricochet is to mock or disparage them.

    True. But until around 2016 or shortly thereafter they were considered by many to be conservative leaders.

    Especially by the left. But the left likes to proclaim that the worst conservatives, are the “leaders.”

    That’s why I endlessly harangue the GOP. I don’t care about democrat philosophy or Democrats. They’re not on my side and I can’t do anything to get them on my side. It’s more constructing to criticize the people who claim to be on your side but aren’t. Or who fail to advance your side. Howling about democrats is a waste of time especially when your team doesn’t feel the same and won’t do anything about the democrats. 

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  14. ctlaw Coolidge
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    If anyone cares to monitor Musk’s Twitter holdings, this search will show any amended Form 13D:

    SEC.gov | EDGAR Full Text Search

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