Logic 101: Birds and Bees Edition

 

If homosexuality means being attracted to members of one’s own sex, then the following two statements can not both be true — however much each is seen as gospel by our progressive friends.

  1. Being homosexual is not a preference, but rather an orientation — that is, not a choice, but simply how someone is born.
  2. Being male or female is a choice, not a matter of birth and biology.

Because, obviously, if the second is true then every homosexual can choose to be a person of the opposite sex and so, voila!, heterosexual.

 

 

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  1. Stad Coolidge
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    Unsk (View Comment):
    So seemingly these bi-sexual women are often willing to give up the lesbian  life to marry a man and have children.

    I’ll bet it’s the other way around – a woman becomes a lesbian after having lousy relationships with men or a particular man . . .

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  2. Zafar Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Henry Racette:

    Because, obviously, if the second is true then every homosexual can choose to be a person of the opposite sex and so, voila!, heterosexual.

    But why would we want to do that?

    Maybe they live in Iran?

    Want is not the same as forced to. 

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  3. Zafar Member
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    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Not facile Henry. Charity begins at home. We could all use a little humility. Imnsho.

    That’s nice. Now relate that to the current context for me.

    Henry, my instincts about women’s sports and hormone therapy are probably not that different from yours, but speaking about so much rather than speaking with doesn’t increase my understanding of different points of view.  And I don’t claim to understand the trans thing.  I would need to speak with a lot of trans people to do that.  What would you call me ‘diagnosing’ Conservatives without ever speaking to them or listening to what they had to say in an honest conversation?

     

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  4. Zafar Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    So seemingly these bi-sexual women are often willing to give up the lesbian life to marry a man and have children.

    I’ll bet it’s the other way around – a woman becomes a lesbian after having lousy relationships with men or a particular man . . .

    Bloody men….

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  5. Henry Racette Member
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    Zafar (View Comment):

    Henry Racette (View Comment):

    Zafar (View Comment):

    Not facile Henry. Charity begins at home. We could all use a little humility. Imnsho.

    That’s nice. Now relate that to the current context for me.

    Henry, my instincts about women’s sports and hormone therapy are probably not that different from yours, but speaking about so much rather than speaking with doesn’t increase my understanding of different points of view. And I don’t claim to understand the trans thing. I would need to speak with a lot of trans people to do that.

    Fortunately there are thoughtful and intelligent people who have spoken to lots of so-called “trans” people and done lots of research on the subject and reported about it. We can read their accounts and form opinions based on that.

    Then we can encourage others, those who are generally too polite or too fearful or too ill-informed or too disinterested to take a position, to stand up and face the trans mob and advocate for its victims.

    As it is now, the parents of the female swimmers who competed against Mr. Thomas were afraid to speak on the record. They did meet, but they insisted on anonymity, because they were afraid of what would happen to their daughters if they spoke out about it. The swimmers were, with very few exceptions, in the same situation: they were afraid to express their views and their anger.

    I have a friend in the UK who is struggling to cope with a daughter caught up in this nonsense. The daughter, who has never expressed any confusion about her female identity, just recently decided in her senior year of high school that she doesn’t want to be a girl anymore. Now she’s considering going on hormone therapy and having her breasts surgically removed. The mother, my friend, has attended the counseling sessions, joined the parent group, talked to the school and the other parents. No one is willing to tell this young lady that she’s making a foolish mistake. Everyone in a position of authority validates the child’s foolishness; she finds nothing but support for her wonderful trans journey.

    I have a friend here in my town who dutifully calls her daughter “they” and uses the new, masculine name the girl has chosen, for fear of the angry outbursts she’ll trigger if she slips up and uses the child’s actual name or correct pronouns.

    The trans movement is abusive and bullying, and people need to be able to stand up to it. What’s wanting is not more kid glove treatment, more gracious silence in the face of bullying agitators, or more “understanding.” What’s needed, in my opinion, is more courage, and a greater understanding of just how destructive, abusive, and absurd this movement is.

     

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  6. Jim McConnell Member
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    Stad (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    So seemingly these bi-sexual women are often willing to give up the lesbian life to marry a man and have children.

    I’ll bet it’s the other way around – a woman becomes a lesbian after having lousy relationships with men or a particular man . . .

    I know a couple of women who would strongly agree with that last statement.

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  7. Henry Castaigne Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    So seemingly these bi-sexual women are often willing to give up the lesbian life to marry a man and have children.

    I’ll bet it’s the other way around – a woman becomes a lesbian after having lousy relationships with men or a particular man . . .

    I know a couple of women who would strongly agree with that last statement.

    Could it also be that lefty people don’t really know how to relate to the opposite sex anymore?

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Stad (View Comment):

    Unsk (View Comment):
    So seemingly these bi-sexual women are often willing to give up the lesbian life to marry a man and have children.

    I’ll bet it’s the other way around – a woman becomes a lesbian after having lousy relationships with men or a particular man . . .

    I know a couple of women who would strongly agree with that last statement.

    I don’t personally know many people outside my family members but I’m not a hermit so I’m acquainted with many people. I don’t know much about the specifics we are addressing here, even within my family and certainly not about other people,  so I guess that fact alone makes me astounded by what I’m hearing those in the schools want to address starting in kindergarten.

    I subscribe, as a guess, to the above speculation because I know more about men’s behavior in the realm of physical abuse and patriarchal dominance than about any similar behaviors in women. Except for family, and sometimes not even there,  traditionally people choose those they want to know their sexual preferences. Now we want to hash these things out at ages where the participants couldn’t possibly know the related facts and it’s not their choice.

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