All You Need to Know About Teachers’ Unions… — Rob Long

 

…is right here in this video, courtesy of Gateway Pundit, which is always excellent:

So, math is political.  Which I suppose I wouldn’t mind if I really thought they were teaching math effectively.  American high school students keep slipping down in international ranking.

I know I’m prone to noticing — some might say “inventing” — trendlines, but let me suggest one to you: the liberals have gone too far.  With Obamacare, religious freedom issues, that sort of thing, they’ve overstepped.  This screed from a teachers’ union boss is a perfect example.

That should be the message for November ’14: they’ve gone too far.  They’re too radical.  They’re out of the mainstream. (It works when they use that on us.  Let’s turn it around.)

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  1. user_357321 Inactive
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    @Jordan

    I’ve got some political math right here:

    A school receives $2000.00 dollars in funding per student who regularly attends classes.  If Bob and Alice’s 4 children are home-schooled by Alice, how much less funding will the school receive?

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  2. Leigh Inactive
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    @Leigh

    Jordan Wiegand:
    I’ve got some political math right here:
    A school receives $2000.00 dollars in funding per student who regularly attends classes. If Bob and Alice’s 4 children are home-schooled by Alice, how much less funding will the school receive?

     That might depend on how the district or state figures out funding, too.

    I don’t know about students who are pulled out for homeschooling, but in Wisconsin if a student leaves for a choice school, the district doesn’t lose the funding right away.  I don’t remember the details, but it’s phased out, or something like that.  It eases the blow and protects other students’ education, and since the voucher is less than the public school cost in the long run the state still saves money.

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  3. Western Chauvinist Member
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    @WesternChauvinist

    Jordan Wiegand:
    I’ve got some political math right here:
    A school receives $2000.00 dollars in funding per student who regularly attends classes. If Bob and Alice’s 4 children are home-schooled by Alice, how much less funding will the school receive?

    Is it a trick question? The school doesn’t receive $8,000 for students it doesn’t serve (more like $24,000 in my neck of the woods). However, Bob and Alice pay property taxes, thereby contributing the full amount to the public till, which is most likely used for “education” in their locality. If it’s not going to serve their kids, chances are it’s been used to pay for bloated administrations which oversee the expenditure of tax dollars in the public indoctrination mills… um, schools.

    And round and round it goes. We pay for services we neither want nor use so that others will vote for Democrats. It happens in education, and now it happens in health care. It’s a no-lose for progressives.

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  4. user_554634 Member
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    @MikeRapkoch

    Well I’m relieved. Now I know that when I was struggling through Trig I was really just furthering social justice. I feel much better about those Cs, although if I had really had social consciousness I’d would have flunked.

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  5. user_357321 Inactive
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    @Jordan

    Western Chauvinist:

    Is it a trick question? The school doesn’t receive $8,000 for students it doesn’t serve (more like $24,000 in my neck of the woods). However, Bob and Alice pay property taxes, thereby contributing the full amount to the public till, which is most likely used for “education” in their locality. If it’s not going to serve their kids, chances are it’s been used to pay for bloated administrations which oversee the expenditure of tax dollars in the public indoctrination mills… um, schools.
    And round and round it goes. We pay for services we neither want nor use so that others will vote for Democrats. It happens in education, and now it happens in health care. It’s a no-lose for progressives.

     Yes, property taxes are still a problem, but schools do receive some incentive-based funding per student.  You can take that away by homeschooling at least.

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  6. user_216080 Thatcher
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    @DougKimball

    It’s amazing how the Left misses the concept of competition as a powerful force for change.  They still teach evolution, right?  My daughter goes to a large public high school as good as any in the country.  They’ve learned to compete with AZ’s charter schools and magnet schools, a formidable challenge, and they’ve thrived.  So it is possible!  Other public schools that can’t compete will fail and so they should and quickly. That’s how competition works.

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  7. user_385039 Inactive
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    @donaldtodd

    We homeschooled.  We homeschooled from First Grade through Twelfth.  Of note, and we were living in Minnesota at that time, we were permitted to put our children in public school for one period per day which permitted them to join extra-curricular activity such as the chorale, drama, and sports. 

    To be sure, the State did pay the schools for that hour per day and our children did participate in the extra-curricular activities, both earning letters from the public school system we enrolled them in. 

    However, we homeschooled using Catholic curriculum and they graduated from Our Lady of Victory (I think, its been a while) with their peers at that school.

    Both have done well since then and my youngest is in her junior year in college.

    Neither suffered  the pathologies which appeared rampant at that time; and both were quite sociable and oriented toward their peers in the neighborhood, so the “lack of socialization” argument often pitched by the public school people was pure bs.

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  8. CandE Inactive
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    Donald Todd: Neither suffered  the pathologies which appeared rampant at that time; and both were quite sociable and oriented toward their peers in the neighborhood, so the “lack of socialization” argument often pitched by the public school people was pure bs.

    Great example.  We’ve been thinking about how we will approach education for our kids, including the possibility of homeschooling.  Our oldest is 2, so we have time, but it’s still intimidating.  

    Something I’m coming to believe is that sticking a kid with other kids for hours day after day actually causes poor socialization; especially for high school kids.  A well adjusted kid is one that is around adults and learns how to interact with adults as an adult.  A kid’s “peer group” is not going to be the best source for examples of good behavior.

    -E

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  9. Instugator Thatcher
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    Just introduce it as withholding – where they bring you the bag before it is opened for you to siphon off your cut. They never need touch it first.

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  10. Pony Convertible Inactive
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    @PonyConvertible

    Jordan, The answer to your math questions is, Who cares!  If a school provides a quality service that the parents want, they won’t take their kids elsewhere.  If parents are taking their kids elsewhere then the school must not be providing good service.  In which case, who cares if it loses funding.  Is the answer to force kids to go to a bad school?

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  11. user_385039 Inactive
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    @donaldtodd

    CandE pg 4 “We’ve been thinking about how we will approach education for our kids, including the possibility of homeschooling.  Our oldest is 2, so we have time, but it’s still intimidating.”

    1.  Your kids will have the person/s who love them the best teaching them.

    2.  Your kids will have the undivided attention of the person/s who love them the best teaching them.

    3.  There are homeschool groups for mothers, and they are not limited to “Catholics” or “Baptists” or such.  Rather they are for mothers who are teaching their children, and those ladies are wonderful in helping their newer peers get through the early concerns.

    4.  There are some very good homeschool programs available.  You get the instructional material, the workbooks for the kids, and an 800# in case you have questions.  These people really do want to help you get your kids through those 12 years of school.

    5.  My kids participated in the city leagues in basketball and soccer.  I had the privilege of coaching my kids in basketball and soccer and I easily expected as much of them as they could do.  (My daughter has asthma so there were times in soccer where merely standing up was as much as she could do.  My son was a very good basketball and soccer player and won a varsity letter playing soccer at the middle and high school on that one-period-a-day-and-you- can-do-extracurricular-activity approach that we took.)

    CandE, I have no doubt that you’ll love your kids and figure out how they learn.

    My son needed to be up and about, full of energy, so that he could then sit down and learn.

    My daughter was learning the stuff her older brother was supposed to learn, and it annoyed him to hear his little sister answering the questions he could not answer.  It was a life motivating thing for him.  He began to learn a bit more quickly so that his little sister wouldn’t show him up all the time. 

    It was funny!

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