They Refused the Love of the Truth: Mass Formation Psychosis

 

“…and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.”
2 Thessalonians 2:10-12

They refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.

There has been much discussion swirling around the internet about a psychological concept called mass formation psychosis. Surely, you’re aware of it. In a nutshell, this psychological phenomenon describes a kind of powerful “group think” that takes hold of large numbers of people at the same time, drawing them into a type of group hypnotic state where they think alike, feel alike and quickly respond to outside suggestions in a similar manner. It is as if the group has been hypnotized.

Dr.Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA technology appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast talking about mass formation psychosis, and for this sin, the left has demanded that Rogan’s wildly popular podcast be de-platformed. In another podcast about mass formation with Dr. Malone, Dr. Mattias Desmet a Professor in Clinical Psychology at the Faculty of Psychology and Educational Sciences at Ghent University, Belgium went into significant detail about the conditions that can lead to mass formation and how he believes that these very conditions have existed surrounding the COVID pandemic response. Dr. Desmet believes that mass formation explains the sheer lunacy that we have witnessed in not only the governmental response to this pandemic, but more importantly, in the response of so many of our fellow Americans– the super-hyper focus on ineffective vaccines as the only possible solution and the demonization of the “unvaccinated.”

I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

The search for truth.

Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life. In fact, if you ask anyone who knows me, you can verify that the Bible verse that motivates my entire life is Hosea 4:6: “My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge.” I am therefore a voracious reader and student, not just of the Bible but of other knowledge too. But I do set God’s truth as my plumbline. Personally, I don’t care about anyone’s personal truth. The phrase: “This is my truth” is ridiculous. You can have your own lived experiences, your own feelings, your own opinions. But you cannot have your own truth.

Unfortunately, we have been conditioned to believe that we can have our own truth. This is why our society is ripe for mass formation psychosis. Many in our society believe that marriage can be between any two consenting individuals, not the antiquated idea of one man and one woman. Gender? God didn’t assign that at my birth. I’ll decide if I’m a woman or a man today– thank you. I don’t need God to determine that for me. In fact, I am God. I have eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so I can determine what is right and what is wrong. I can determine my own truth.

— except for one tiny little fact– if I think like this, I am deluded.

The Bible tells us that those who refuse to love the truth– God’s truth– submit themselves to delusion. In fact, the Apostle Paul tells us in 2 Thessalonians that God Himself hands them over to delusion. I know that is a difficult pill for some to swallow, especially for those who have learned that God is merciful but not just. (Ahhh, but that is another post entirely.) This idea of being turned over to delusion is similar to the concept of God hardening Pharaoh’s heart. The Hebrew word for “harden” means to “strengthen.” God strengthened what was already in Pharaoh’s heart. When God turns someone over to delusion, He is only clearing the path to destruction that they have already chosen to follow. Choice by choice, decision by decision, they forge their own wicked path and at some point, there is literally no turning back.

The Hebrew word for truth is EMET. It is written with an Aleph, a Mem, and a Tav– the first, middle, and last letters of the Hebrew alphabet. How telling. In Hebrew, truth starts at the beginning, includes everything in the middle, and goes all the way to the end. Truth doesn’t just show up halfway down the road as some new kind of revelation. It is what was at the beginning and will be at the very end. We cannot escape God’s truth. Oh, we try– we run from it, we wrestle with it, we ignore it, and we distort it, but we can never escape it. For this reason, it is wise for us to seek it out. If you don’t want to go over the cliff with everyone else, seek out God’s truth. Start at the beginning of truth– Genesis–and go all the way to the end.

It is our only hope for escaping the mass insanity of the world around us.

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  1. Bob Thompson Member
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    Can’t show how much I like your post. I get a little flak in my family for my constant seeking of knowledge in search of truth but that is tolerable since I am now the family patriarch. I won’t stop. It gives me satisfaction in a stage of life where I’m disallowed from doing many active things. And I am definitely not part of the subject mass formation psychosis.

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  2. Caryn Thatcher
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    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not.  Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded.  You and the masses like you.

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  3. JoelB Member
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    One does not own his own truth. One can only own a perspective. The closer one’s own perspective is to the actual truth, the better. Perspective can be changed by study and experience. (For better or worse) Perspective seems to have become a forgotten concept in today’s world. 

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  4. Barfly Member
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    I don’t know anything about the Torah, but I know who they are. They’re the dull sheep who stare at the fire while the few keep watch on the dark.

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  5. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    most scholars misrepresent the concepts they teach.   

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  6. Jim McConnell Member
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    “most scholars misrepresent the concepts they teach.”

    That’s kind of a broad statement, isn’t it? Has someone published a study on the subject?

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  7. Saint Augustine Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Some interesting conclusions there. Do you have some premises for them?

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  8. Bob Thompson Member
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Some interesting conclusions there. Do you have some premises for them?

    I always disregard unsupported statements. 

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  9. Hans Gruber Pfizer President Inactive
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    @Pseudodionysius

    [10] And in all seduction of iniquity to them that perish; because they receive not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying:

    [11] That all may be judged who have not believed the truth, but have consented to iniquity. 

    Douay Rheims

     

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  10. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Barfly (View Comment):

    I don’t know anything about the Torah, but I know who they are. They’re the dull sheep who stare at the fire while the few keep watch on the dark.

    And the dull  sheep continue to stare at the fire, as the “fact checkers” tell them there is no need at all to keep watch.

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  11. Jim McConnell Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    That’s a little harsh, isn’t it? Has she held herself out as a scholar? She seems to identify herself as a student.

    Plus, I find no mention of the Torah in the OP.

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  12. Saint Augustine Member
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Plus, I find no mention of the Torah in the OP.

    (Well, the hardening of Pharaoh’s heart came up.)

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  13. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Could you explain what you mean by Kathy Mardirosian not understanding the Torah? And how that misunderstanding is proclaimed in her topic?

    I know little about the Torah, but the Christian’s “go to” reference book, The New Testament has more than one interpretation.

    Some have used The New Testament to justify war, while other have used it to argue for peace (in the same situation facing our nation.)

    Some have used The New Testament to justify  forbidding  the acceptance of non-believers, as I was told in first grade not to be that close to my own father. The rationale given was “when both of you are dead, he will not be in heaven with you but in limbo, and that will be a sorrow too great to bear.”

    That teaching actually made me skeptical, at age 6, of the dogma the nuns would be teaching me for the next 12 years.

    The same New Testament was used by Pope John the 23rd to be all ecumenical toward people who were not Catholics.

    So what is your actual take on her being non-Torah-respecting?

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  14. Saint Augustine Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    I know little about the Torah, but the Christian’s “go to” reference book, The New Testament has more than one interpretation.

    And the Old Testament has more than one interpretation. Many are correct.  (Not all are.)  The NT is a set of texts interpreting the OT–and reporting on how some of their promises were kept.

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  15. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    I know little about the Torah, but the Christian’s “go to” reference book, The New Testament has more than one interpretation.

    And the Old Testament has more than one interpretation. Many are correct. (Not all are.) The NT is a set of texts interpreting the OT–and reporting on how some of their promises were kept.

    Catholics view The New Testament as being the document of the life and teachings of  The Son of God who was Himself the Promise. As well as His being the Messiah, long prophesied as coming  to their nation to liberate them.

    When Jesus failed to overthrow the Romans, as the liberation He was bringing was a spiritual manifestation, with the physical manifestation to arrive after each human has transformed himself or herself, He was summarily rejected by the Jewish nation. (Except for his chosen apostles and their followers.) Saul on the road to Damascus was on that road for his persecution of Christians. Only The Lord had other plans for him.

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  16. BastiatJunior Member
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    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Da**!!  What just flew in here?

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  17. Hans Gruber Pfizer President Inactive
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    BastiatJunior (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Da**!! What just flew in here?

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  18. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    The OP offers much food for thought.  Thank you.  

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  19. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    The search for truth.

    Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.

    I wish more people in our society were influenced by this way of thinking about reality, as Kathy eloquently described:

    “I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    “The search for truth.

    “Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.”

    ####

    So many progressives have collectively lost their minds in order to be an accepted and lauded member of the virtue signallors.

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  20. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    The search for truth.

    Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.

    I wish more people in our society were influenced by this way of thinking about reality, as Kathy eloquently described:

    “I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    “The search for truth.

    “Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.”

    ####

    So many progressives have collectively lost their minds in order to be an accepted and lauded member of the virtue signallors.

    For the record CarolJoy, I didn’t write the passage your post attributes to me.  

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  21. Bob Thompson Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    The search for truth.

    Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.

    I wish more people in our society were influenced by this way of thinking about reality, as Kathy eloquently described:

    “I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    “The search for truth.

    “Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.”

    ####

    So many progressives have collectively lost their minds in order to be an accepted and lauded member of the virtue signallors.

    I think it is easier to understand those who are doing it for the money, evil as they are, and they can be done in with less regret.

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  22. Flicker Coolidge
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    Bob Thompson (View Comment):

    Saint Augustine (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    Some interesting conclusions there. Do you have some premises for them?

    I always disregard unsupported statements.

    Not me, I believe virtually everything I read, and I think that is what makes me more of a selective human than someone who doesn’t believe anything.

    David St. Hubbins

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  23. Saint Augustine Member
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    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    Catholics view The New Testament as being the document of the life and teachings of  The Son of God who was Himself the Promise. As well as His being the Messiah, long prophesied as coming  to their nation to liberate them.

    That ain’t just the Catholics.

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  24. Chuck Coolidge
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):
    Plus, I find no mention of the Torah in the OP.

    Well there is this in the OP: “I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com.”

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  25. CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill Coolidge
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    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    CarolJoy, Not So Easy To Kill (View Comment):

    DaveSchmidt (View Comment):

    I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    The search for truth.

    Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.

    I wish more people in our society were influenced by this way of thinking about reality, as Kathy eloquently described:

    “I recorded an entire podcast about mass formation and Torah that can be found at torahtalk21.com. But for our purposes here, I want to focus on one thing that Dr. Malone and Dr. Desmet talked about: What makes someone susceptible to mass formation? While they acknowledged that those who actively resist mass formation are a varied lot, they speculated that there are two types of personal psychological structures that differentiate those who fall to the allure of mass formation and those who do not: the former find their stability, meaning, and purpose in identifying with a group vs the latter who find stability purpose and meaning by searching for truth- even if it goes against the dominant group narrative and causes great discomfort or pain for them personally.

    “The search for truth.

    “Is this search what keeps some of us from going over the cliff with the crowd? I have always set the search for knowledge and truth as a primary goal of my life.”

    ####

    So many progressives have collectively lost their minds in order to be an accepted and lauded member of the virtue signallors.

    For the record CarolJoy, I didn’t write the passage your post attributes to me.

    I noted that, as I referred to  the quoted statements as being the words offered by Kathy.

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  26. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    Dr.Robert Malone… appeared on Joe Rogan’s podcast talking about mass formation psychosis, and for this sin, the left has demanded that Rogan’s wildly popular podcast be de-platformed.

    In other words, they thought alike, felt alike and quickly responded to outside suggestions in a similar manner. In short, they validated the thing they claimed was misinformation. 

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  27. RyanFalcone Member
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    Thanks for sharing this Kathy! 

    It seems to me that we are seeing the same pattern in this fight that we have seen so many times before throughout history. There really doesn’t seem to be anything new under the sun. 

     

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  28. Front Seat Cat Member
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    She’s talking about the Bible – The Torah is the first five books of the Bible. She’s not insulting anyone or anything. The point of the post is there is Truth and it comes from God – whether you are Jewish or Christian. God gives us His wisdom to instruct everyone – not just scholars of these Books. Every word of this post is true and imparts the serpent’s oldest lie “Ye shall be as gods”.  

    The Bible verses she quotes are not the only ones pertinent to Truth, but excellent choices. Here’s another:

    2 Timothy 4. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

    Yes – this mass delusion is some say a deliberate psych op.  I believe it. There is a way to resist it – it’s why there is such a heavy hammer to those who have faith.  Don’t follow the sheep over the cliff.  Thank you for a great post.

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  29. jonb60173 Member
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    The paradox to know the “truth” is out of our control, when asked how can man get to heaven (knowing the truth) Jesus replied : Mathew 19:26″Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”  So we can only know the truth if God opens our eyes.  What determines whose eyes God opens to the truth?

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  30. Caryn Thatcher
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    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    Caryn (View Comment):

    Please stop abusing Torah and misrepresenting yourself as a scholar of what you are most certainly not. Some of us might well argue that it is you who are deluded. You and the masses like you.

    That’s a little harsh, isn’t it? Has she held herself out as a scholar? She seems to identify herself as a student.

    Plus, I find no mention of the Torah in the OP.

    Kathy has linked her podcasts and websites where she claims to teach “Torah.”  As a “teacher” she is holding herself up as a scholar pretty much by definition. Only thing is that she is a Christian and, as such, is teaching through Jesus-tinted spectacles.  To Torah-observant Jews (ie. the only ones who call the first five books “Torah”) that is frankly false teaching, apostasy, and misleading.  I don’t care if she wants to talk about “The Bible” and use the Christian writings to (mis) interpret the Jewish texts, but it isn’t Torah and it isn’t Torah teaching.  This is a method used by missionaries seeking to convert unlearned Jews to Christianity.  It is deceptive and, in an era following the Holocaust, might be considered by many to be down-right evil.  The Nazis burned our bodies; the “loving” Christians who want to convert us burn our souls and wipe out those of the generations that would have followed (there were survivors of the camps who continue to live through their children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren). 

    This, by the way, is the true message of Hanukkah–in addition to a battle against the Greeks, it was also a civil war between Torah-observant Jews and Hellenized, assimilated Jews.  The only reason there are still Jews today is that the Torah-observant won back then and, against all historical odds, persist.  In the big picture, Kathy and her ilk (many of whom are here on Ricochet–some of them vocally and offensively so) will fail and will have to face that in the hereafter.  Jesus is the Christian “messiah.”  He is not that of the Jews; we knew better then and know better now.  We don’t ask anyone to convert, only that they live good lives, believing in the One True God.  Those people, we believe, have a place in the World to Come.  It would be very, very nice if those who appropriated our teachings would return us the same courtesy and just leave us alone.  Isn’t that what you want from Islam?  From any of the other johnny-come-lately interpretations of Christianity?  Catholics vs Protestants?

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