Another Diet Conservative Conman

 

I have been pretty clear about my dislike for so-called “conservative leadership” and much of its thought and thought leaders. I think they are primarily responsible for where we are. If you lose a game, you need to take a good hard look at your team. If you keep losing, it is clear something is inherently wrong. Blaming the other team and engaging in never-ending anger porn about all of the things the other team is doing will not turn the situation around. It is even more embarrassing when you win game after game, but somehow never secure the championship win. Conservatives have won more elections in modern times, but somehow never get a win or even a minimal cut/reduction to any agency. Even the agencies we hate grow their budgets under conservative rule. The last time we had a balanced budget was in the 90s. That isn’t because that was the last conservative congress. We didn’t even have a conservative president when that happened.

Enter George Will. If this guy supporting Biden wasn’t bad enough, he is now in the business of supporting assisted suicide. This is a man who for decades has made millions of dollars off of you. He wrote endless articles and books claiming to fight for your ultimate goals. He has been rewarded handsomely by conservative Americans who have given him patronage. What was his response as soon as you ignored his personal dislike for Trump? Did he say something akin to: “Hey, I have an outsized voice? I fought against this man because I did not think he would be good. I’ll be an adult and go with who my team chose. If he turns out to be as bad as I think, I will say I told you so. If he doesn’t, I will be pleasantly surprised?”

No. His response for the people who gave him his lavish lifestyle was screw you for not listening to me. You’re rubes and schmucks. I am going to help Hillary Clinton and then I will help Joe Biden. And does he take responsibility for the Progressive mess he fought to install in place of Trump? Does he apologize? No. He continues to treat you and anyone else who dared vote for Trump like contemptible swine.

George Will has proven he is nothing more than a pseudo-intellect whose only real skill is having a very fat thesaurus and using it copiously, abundantly, amply, profusely, extensively, teemingly, and lavishly. The greatest gift Donald Trump ever gave us is that he was the closest thing we have had to a colon cleanse as a nation in a very long time. George Will is another one of these hooked-in pieces of dooky that needed a good hard flush to dislodge. People like him are so evidently the reason that nothing has gone swimmingly for over 30 years.

Now he is pushing assisted suicide. If the left-wing blood-libel histories and gender dysphoria/hormones they want to pump your kids with wasn’t enough, now we have pseudo-conservatives pushing assisted suicide. Yeah, let’s open that door for progressives. Progressives totally won’t be wearing shout your suicide shirts. They will keep it only for those who are on the doorstep of death. Progressives certainly won’t expand it to children more than they already do with abortion. Progressives certainly won’t expand it to the depressed or anyone else. Eventually, if we aren’t Kevorkian-ing people with paper cuts, it will be seen as discriminatory and unfair that people’s freedoms and rights are being denied to the Progressive Left. The left totally won’t end up using assisted suicide as a way to get around Roe v. Wade either. Just claim every abortion is an assisted suicide. Yeah, the left totally has the morals and decency to never go there or try that.

So, what are these people conserving? We are a nation that has never had assisted suicide in our entire history. Let’s embrace it now because conservatism! Doctors killing people is medical aid! Reagan! Considering the stupidity of George Will, among other things, putting in his headline that killing people is medical aid, it is clear that Will himself is so braindead that he must be on life support. America is on life support because of people like him. Elites that aren’t so elite. Conservatives that don’t conserve. Thought leaders that neither think nor lead. I mean, some of these people push for medical aid that is neither medical nor aid. Maybe George should give the Kevorkian family a call and get some of that medical aid for himself. It’ll put both him and us out of this misery.

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  1. James Lileks Contributor
    James Lileks
    @jameslileks

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism. 

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction? 

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  2. Jason Turner Member
    Jason Turner
    @JasonTurner

    We have assisted dying in my state and most other states in Australia. The public have been brainwashed to believe it is about easing Grandma’s suffering instead of what it is really about. The legalisation of suicide. No real conservative when knowledgeable about the facts would support this.

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  3. GlenEisenhardt Coolidge
    GlenEisenhardt
    @GlenEisenhardt

    Jason Turner (View Comment):
    We have assisted dying in my state and most other states in Australia. The public have been brainwashed to believe it is about easing Grandma’s suffering instead of what it is really about. The legalisation of suicide. No real conservative when knowledgeable about the facts would support this.

    Agreed. I’ve read about old people in Scandinavian countries wearing please don’t kill me messages in their coats in case they fall unconscious or ill in some other way. There are documented cases of psychiatrists recommending it in places like Belgium. How can a person not in their right state of mind demand to end their life and be granted it? It opens up the door to great misuse and evil. And this request from Will comes after we have seen leftists all over the world call for refusal of medical treatment for rejecting a vaccination. What will euthanasia be used as if that door is open?

    And the deeper point to all this is what is wrong with conservatism when all it ends up being is leftism from 30 years ago? In 30 years from now conservatives will be like ‘look, my kid is genderqueer non-binary and went to the annual George Floyd celebration, but in no way am I adopting this left wing extremism of tax rates being raised from 60% to 85%!’ I mean what is conservatism if this is usually what it ends up being? What is the point of all this? You were a Reaganite to end up being more liberal than Hillary Clinton was in the 90s? Hillary Clinton was against gay marriage in the 90s. Most Conservatives are more liberal than she was back in the 90s I would say. Bring 90s Hillary back. I’d vote for her over former Reaganites who now push the most radical left wing administrations into power and assisted suicide.

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  4. Saint Augustine Member
    Saint Augustine
    @SaintAugustine

    I have an old post, “George Will Gets It Wrong.” Homeboy botched originalism and Madison. Badly.

    Another old post seemed in order when the situation arose. “George Will Gets It Right.” Homeboy wanted executive lawmaking returned to Congress where it belonged.

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  5. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    The energy is turned in the other direction. George Will happens to be there. Which is the point of the post. 

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  6. Kozak Member
    Kozak
    @Kozak

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    That was 40 years ago.

     

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  7. Vance Richards Member
    Vance Richards
    @VanceRichards

    Many of the so-called “Anti-Trump Conservatives” ended up supporting Democrat candidates and policies. Seems like a baby and the bath water type of situation. Weird.

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  8. Ekosj Member
    Ekosj
    @Ekosj

    Hang On (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    The energy is turned in the other direction. George Will happens to be there. Which is the point of the post.

    With all due respect to James L, he might be misremembering Will.   Will was always an Establishment Republican.   It was he who coined the term “kamikaze conservatives” to describe Reagan’s core conservative supporters.   He has been looking to “cleanse“ the Party of their ilk since the 70’s…

    But Reagan is 63, and looks it. His hair is still remarkably free of gray, but around the mouth and neck he looks like an old man. He’s never demonstrated substantial national appeal. His hardcore support today consists primarily of the kamikaze conservatives who thought the 1964 Goldwater campaign was jolly fun. And there’s a reason to doubt that Reagan is well suited to appeal to the electorate that just produced a democratic landslide. If a Reagan third party would just lead the “Nixon was lynched” crowd away from the Republican party, and into outer darkness where there is a wailing and gnashing of teeth, it might be at worst a mixed course for the Republican party. It would cost the party some support, but it would make the party seem cleansed.”

    And finally, having failed to “cleanse“ the Party of those irritating plebeians, Will removed himself.

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  9. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    James Lileks (View Comment):
    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    Could we make this request of Mr. Will and his friends at The Dispatch and The Bulwark?

    It is also worth noting that Will opposed the Reagan tax cuts on the basis that “we are, as a nation, undertaxed.” This as a time when the top marginal tax rate in the country was 70%. He also wrote, in 1983, “Reagan’s kind of conservatism is in important particulars unsuited to contemporary life.” Which tends to dispel the myth that Will was some kind of rock-ribbed conservative hard-butt, back in the day.

    Will was among the very first to quit the Republican Party in a snit against Donald Trump back in 2016. He describes those who support Donald Trump as “a cult,” and never considers the decades of disillusionment and betrayal on the part of the GOP and pundits like him led to Trumpe. No, like David French and the rest of that bunch, he doesn’t blame the leaders of the party for failing its base, but those dirty, deplorables who actually wanted the party to do the things it claimed to support.

    And who can ever forget George Will’s diatribe against dungarees.

    Denim is the clerical vestment for the priesthood of all believers in democracy’s catechism of leveling — thou shalt not dress better than society’s most slovenly. To do so would be to commit the sin of lookism — of believing that appearance matters. That heresy leads to denying the universal appropriateness of everything, and then to the elitist assertion that there is good and bad taste. …

    Denim is the infantile uniform of a nation in which entertainment frequently features childlike adults (“Seinfeld,” “Two and a Half Men”) and cartoons for adults (“King of the Hill”). Seventy-five percent of American “gamers” — people who play video games — are older than 18 and nevertheless are allowed to vote.

    Given his recent commentary, I wish George Will spent more time channeling his inner Herbert R. Tarlek  and less time doing whatever else he is doing.

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  10. EDISONPARKS Member
    EDISONPARKS
    @user_54742

    “The greatest gift Donald Trump ever gave us is that he was the closest thing we have had to a colon cleanse as a nation in a very long time.  George Will is another one of these hooked in pieces of dooky that needed a good hard flush to dislodge. People like him are so evidently the reason that nothing has gone swimmingly for over 30 years.”

    Awesome!

    The NT response to the election and attempted re-election of Trump will go down as the most colossal “choke”, ” bed pooping”, “blowing it” ,”snatching defeat from the jaws of victory” etc. ….. in the history of political gag jobs.

    The (R) held all branches of Federal government, a Haley’s Comet of a rare occurrence in modern times, and this once influential group of former conservatives decided the best course action was to crap all over it and actively participate in throttling the advancement of the conservative agenda.

    The NT are dead to me …. they no longer exist as far as I’m concerned.

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  11. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    Will IS the other direction. In case you haven’t noticed, none of this is aimed at Will’s back.

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  12. Franco Member
    Franco
    @Franco

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    This comment coming from a Ricochet contributor, as the very first comment, tells us a lot. Unbelievable. I guess if you put in your 20 years of service to the ‘conservative’ cause you have earn the right to go fight for the other side. Who are these insolent nobodies who are insufficiently thankful for George Will’s years in the trenches anyway?

    Hey you! Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    This is establishment wagon-circling in it’s raw form folks

    We can betray you, but don’t you dare criticize us. 

    The irony and the arrogance is stunning.

     

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  13. The Reticulator Member
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    Ekosj (View Comment):
    With all due respect to James L, he might be misremembering Will.   Will was always an Establishment Republican.   It was he who coined the term “kamikaze conservatives” to describe Reagan’s core conservative supporters.   He has been looking to “cleanse“ the Party of their ilk since the 70’s…

    He wasn’t much of a fan of the earlier Bushes. When he started saying nice things about Jeb, that should have been sufficient warning.

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  14. philo Member
    philo
    @philo

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    “The greatest gift Donald Trump ever gave us is that he was the closest thing we have had to a colon cleanse as a nation in a very long time. George Will is another one of these hooked in pieces of dooky that needed a good hard flush to dislodge. People like him are so evidently the reason that nothing has gone swimmingly for over 30 years.”

    Awesome!

    The NT response to the election and attempted re-election of Trump will go down as the most colossal “choke”, ” bed pooping”, “blowing it” ,”snatching defeat from defeat of jaws of victory” etc. ….. in the history of political gag jobs.

    The (R) held all branches of Federal government, a Haley’s Comet of a rare occurrence in modern times, and this once influential group of former conservative decided the best course action was to crap all over it and actively participate in throttling the advancement of the conservative agenda.

    The NT are dead to me …. they no longer exist as far as I’m concerned.

    As a wise man once quipped: “Sitting here trying to come up with something to add, but nah. Seconded.” Good times, good times.

    [EDIT to clumsily provide source: https://ricochet.com/859769/impeach-remove-bar-from-office/#comment-5119967%5D

     

     

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  15. Z in MT Member
    Z in MT
    @ZinMT

    What’s that quote about empires not dying from murder, but suicide. Well sometimes it is literal.

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  16. D.A. Venters Inactive
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    @DAVenters

    I disagree with the whole underlying premise of this post, which seems to be that writers and pundits like George Will are not to be valued for the quality of their independent thoughts, insights, and writing, but are, rather, members of a tribe, bound to the cause of that tribe and owing allegiance to it.  And the cause is, I guess, vaguely defined as whatever is popular in right wing circles at the moment.  In other words, you don’t want great thinkers and writers.  You want hacks.  You want people to write things that only confirm what you already believe.  You don’t want to be challenged; you want to be cheered.

    And so now George Will has betrayed his side, or something like that, as if he owed people who previously enjoyed his columns and agreed with him something except his honest thoughts.  Nonsense.  Grow up.  Calling for someone to die because they disagree with you on something, even as a bad joke, is adolescent.

    People, even other people who are generally on the right, are going to disagree with you and have something to say about it.  Good for them.  I’m not saying you have to agree with George Will obviously, or support him or buy his books or give him clicks.  By all means, criticize his arguments, call out inconsistencies and bad logic, note his changing philosophies – all that’s completely fair – but don’t give me this garbage about some betrayal of his team.  If anything that line of criticism is inconsistent with conservative principles – which, at least until recently, seemed to include the sanctity of, and therefore respect owed to, an individual’s independent thoughts and opinions.  It was those thoughts and opinions that led a person to make certain political associations, right or left.  And people were, of course, entitled to change their minds as they age and change and see things from a new perspective.  Now, apparently, a person’s association comes first, and their words and their works better match it (regardless of what their actual thoughts and opinions are), and they’d better roll with the populist tide, or else that person is some kind of traitor; worthy only of contempt.  We’re not valuing great insights, thoughts, and writing anymore.  We only value approved opinions.  We demand only loyalty.    

     

     

     

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  17. Misthiocracy got drunk and Member
    Misthiocracy got drunk and
    @Misthiocracy

    GlenEisenhardt: And does he take responsibility for the Progressive mess he fought to install in place of Trump?

    < devil’s advocate mode = on >

    What big progressive project goals have actually been accomplished in Washington D.C. since Biden took office?  From where I’m sitting, I see a record of failure, incompetence, and big spending, but that’s generally what I expect from Washington (almost regardless of whichever party is in charge).

    The Biden Administration strikes me as the usual run-of-the-mill incompetent government that’s been slowly destroying the country for a century, and not a radical departure from the generally crappy norm. It’s not like the Obama Administration that managed to pass Obamacare, created DREAMers with the stroke of a pen, sent pallets of cash to Iran, etc. etc. etc.

    From the point-of-view of a Pessimist Conservative who thinks all federal administrations are crappy, that’s pretty much as good as it gets. If you can’t have a competent government you agree with, or even an incompetent government you agree with, then the third best option is an incompetent government you disagree with. It’s still better than the worst-case scenario, a competent government you disagree with.

    < devil’s advocate mode = off >

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  18. Hang On Member
    Hang On
    @HangOn

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    And the cause is, I guess, vaguely defined as whatever is popular in right wing circles at the moment.  In other words, you don’t want great thinkers and writers.  You want hacks. 

    George Will isn’t a great thinker and is a hack echoing all the other hacks at the Washington Post. Independent thought? You’re joking. 

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  19. Patrick McClure Coolidge
    Patrick McClure
    @Patrickb63

    D.A. Venters (View Comment):
    Calling for someone to die because they disagree with you on something, even as a bad joke, is adolescent.

    Straight question, where did the OP call for Will’s death?

    EDIT OK the Kevorkian aid thing.

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  20. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    Misthiocracy got drunk and (View Comment):
    What big progressive project goals have actually been accomplished in Washington D.C. since Biden took office? 

    Just off the top of my head: 

    1. A Massive Infrastructure Bill loaded with “Green Energy” subsidies, massive subsidies for Amtrak and mass transit, drunk driving detection incorporated into all passenger cars, and lays the groundwork for a national mileage tax. 
    2. $2 Trillion dollar Blue State Bailout bill
    3. 2 Million+ Illegal immigrants allowed to enter and remain in the country. 
    4. Shutdowns of domestic energy exploration and critical pipelines. 
    5. Ecoterrorist put in charge of the Bureau of Land Management. 
    6. Appointed radical environmentalist as Secretary of the Interior.
    7. Appointed Radical Transgender Activist as four star admiral. 
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  21. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    Will’s article is quite clearly the first in a series of columns. He says at the end he will address the serious moral issues raised by assisted suicide. Maybe hear him out before you hurl invective and personal attacks at him. D.A. is right in his comment above.

    As for the absolute horror over Will’s column, isn’t it misplaced–at least a little bit? There is a tension in general conservative philosophy on this subject. We rightly promote the importance and dignity of life at all stages, but we also promote the importance of individual liberty. 

    When it comes to “right to try” legislation for experimental drugs and treatments, the two principles are working in the same direction. But what about refusal of medical care and “do not resuscitate” orders? Isn’t that making a choice to die? Where is the line drawn for truly terminally ill patients? Obviously, there is a slippery slope here, but is Will evil for having this debate and addressing both sides?

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  22. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    but we also promote the importance of individual liberty. 

     

    Individual liberty at what cost?

    What exactly are we conserving?

    The tension in conservatism is because we DO NOT know what we are conserving. I want to conserve civilization in a manner that is God-honoring. Much of our freedom and position on individual liberty is because we don’t always agree on what is God-honoring, but we should be on the same page of preserving civilization.

    One of the precepts embedded in the success of western civilization is that all life is sacred and that only God can give it or take it away – ie not humans. Ripping out that foundational principle topples a good amount that was built on it. Destroying the concept of life as sacred leads to far worse places than forbidding assisted suicide does.

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  23. kedavis Member
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    @kedavis

    Ekosj (View Comment):

    Hang On (View Comment):

    James Lileks (View Comment):

    He was a strong, clear, unwavering voice for conservative ideals in a time when the media was arrayed in all fronts against Reaganism.

    Howzabout we turn this energy in the other direction?

    The energy is turned in the other direction. George Will happens to be there. Which is the point of the post.

    With all due respect to James L, he might be misremembering Will. Will was always an Establishment Republican. It was he who coined the term “kamikaze conservatives” to describe Reagan’s core conservative supporters. He has been looking to “cleanse“ the Party of their ilk since the 70’s…

    But Reagan is 63, and looks it. His hair is still remarkably free of gray, but around the mouth and neck he looks like an old man. He’s never demonstrated substantial national appeal. His hardcore support today consists primarily of the kamikaze conservatives who thought the 1964 Goldwater campaign was jolly fun. And there’s a reason to doubt that Reagan is well suited to appeal to the electorate that just produced a democratic landslide. If a Reagan third party would just lead the “Nixon was lynched” crowd away from the Republican party, and into outer darkness where there is a wailing and gnashing of teeth, it might be at worst a mixed course for the Republican party. It would cost the party some support, but it would make the party seem cleansed.”

    And finally, having failed to “cleanse“ the Party of those irritating plebeians, Will removed himself.

    Very well put.

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  24. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    We rightly promote the importance and dignity of life at all stages, but we also promote the importance of individual liberty. 

    My view on assisted suicide is two-fold. 

      1. A patient who is terminally ill and either in pain, or facing the prospect of extreme pain, should have virtually unlimited access to any drug or narcotic they want.  If a person in such a state wants to end, or avoid, suffering their doctor might advise them on a combination of drugs that would permit them to part their mortal coil, and help them access such drugs. 
      2. Physician-assisted suicide should exist in the shadows, tolerated but definitely not as a matter of public policy. Precisely because a thoughtful conservative knows how the road to Hell is paved. What begins as an option for the terminally ill and suffering invariably slides down the slope into suicide pods for anybody who wants to off themselves. 
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  25. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    Stina (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):

    but we also promote the importance of individual liberty.

     

    Individual liberty at what cost?

    What exactly are we conserving?

    The tension in conservatism is because we DO NOT know what we are conserving. I want to conserve civilization in a manner that is God-honoring. Much of our freedom and position on individual liberty is because we don’t always agree on what is God-honoring, but we should be on the same page of preserving civilization.

    One of the precepts embedded in the success of western civilization is that all life is sacred and that only God can give it or take it away – ie not humans. Ripping out that foundational principle topples a good amount that was built on it. Destroying the concept of life as sacred leads to far worse places than forbidding assisted suicide does.

    My goal is to conserve the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution first. Second is to then promote the ideals of Western Civilization and stable communities.

    But what does Will’s very narrow argument lead to? I agree completely that life is sacred. However, where does that line get drawn? Does that mean DNR orders and refusal of treatment are wrong too? If a person attempts suicide, should they be punished or treated?

    I agree that in the context of government health care, the implications are horrific and it’s one reason to oppose such programs. What I’m curious about is how these distinctions should be drawn. We have the death penalty in the US and that is certainly us making the decision to take a life, not God. Should the death penalty be abolished too?

    I think many of Will’s critics here are jumping to government mandating assisted suicide, not whether it should simply be permitted. Something can be legal and still be immoral.

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  26. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    We rightly promote the importance and dignity of life at all stages, but we also promote the importance of individual liberty.

    My view on assisted suicide is two-fold.

      1. A patient who is terminally ill and either in pain, or facing the prospect of extreme pain, should have virtually unlimited access to any drug or narcotic they want. If a person in such a state wants to end, or avoid, suffering their doctor might advise them on a combination of drugs that would permit them to part their mortal coil, and help them access such drugs.
      2. Physician-assisted suicide should exist in the shadows, tolerated but definitely not as a matter of public policy. Precisely because a thoughtful conservative knows how the road to Hell is paved. What begins as an option for the terminally ill and suffering invariably slides down the slope into suicide pods for anybody who wants to off themselves.

    I think this is a perfectly reasonable and nuanced position. Unfortunately, that means it will have zero chance of ever being adopted as a matter of policy.

    Also, I 100% agree with your second point. That is why I think it’s important to discuss how these distinctions are made.

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  27. Victor Tango Kilo Member
    Victor Tango Kilo
    @VtheK

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    I think this is a perfectly reasonable and nuanced position. Unfortunately, that means it will have zero chance of ever being adopted as a matter of policy.

    Indeed. We live in a society that doesn’t like quietly tolerating things that should exist in the shadows. Instead, our bored and drama-centric culture insists that *everything* deviant must be out in the open and celebrated. “Transgenderism” didn’t become a thing because a tiny, tiny fraction of the populace was afflicted with gender dysphoria. It became a thing because Affluent White Female Liberals (AWFLs) were bored.

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  28. Stina Member
    Stina
    @CM

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    But what does Will’s very narrow argument lead to?

    It weakens the fundamental foundation.

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    My goal is to conserve the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution first

    These were formed in service to a specific goal, and that was to preserve a kind of civilization that was United in a common goal. By allowing for the freedoms in how states ran things, it diminished conflict between them.

    But they all had a common goal.

    The constitution is a tool to accomplish that end. Nothing more.

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  29. MDHahn Coolidge
    MDHahn
    @MDHahn

    Stina (View Comment):

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    But what does Will’s very narrow argument lead to?

    It weakens the fundamental foundation.

    MDHahn (View Comment):
    My goal is to conserve the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution first

    These were formed in service to a specific goal, and that was to preserve a kind of civilization that was United in a common goal. By allowing for the freedoms in how states ran things, it diminished conflict between them.

    But they all had a common goal.

    The constitution is a tool to accomplish that end. Nothing more.

    But what is that common goal? To me, preserving liberty is paramount.

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  30. colleenb Member
    colleenb
    @colleenb

    Didn’t/Doesn’t George Will have a son who was/is Down’s Syndrome? How does this square with assisted suicide? An individual with DS will obviously need to be shown the correct decision he needs to make along with anyone else who isn’t ‘perfect’ enough. I’m really not that interested in what Mr. Will has to say to sit down and read his column yet alone 3 or 4. Sorry too much German background to ever trust anyone to know which life is unworthly of life.

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