Rasmussen Poll: 45% of Democratic Voters Favor Confining the Unvaccinated to ‘Designated Facilities’

 

Here’s the TLDR from a Heartland Institute and Rasmussen Report survey. For Democratic voters:

  • 55% support fines against those who choose not to get a COVID-19 vaccine.
  • 59% support house arrest for the unvaccinated.
  • 48% support fines or prison for questioning vaccine efficacy on social media, TV, or the radio or in online or digital publications.
  • 45% support temporarily confining the unvaccinated to “designated facilities” (cough) internment camps (cough).
  • 47% support government tracking of the unvaccinated.
  • 29% support temporarily removing parents’ custody of their children if parents refuse to take the COVID-19 vaccine.

Second look at a national divorce?

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  1. Anthony A Velasquez Inactive
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    @muzikgeye

    I just copied and pasted onto Facebook the percentages you quoted in the opening of your post. Moments later I get the dreaded warning:

     

    So I posted the link to the American Greatness article. 13 minutes later, no Facebook warning. So far so good.  I don’t know which is more stupid: the warning or wearing a mask in your car with no passengers.

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  2. Taras Coolidge
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    @Taras

    Kozak (View Comment):

    Scratch a Democrat, find a fascist.

    That the Democrats are becoming a proto-fascist party is, alas, no joke.

    For the second time, the Democrats tried to make the Supreme Court a rubber stamp. The first time was when Mussolini admirer and imitator FDR was angry that the Court had knocked down some of his more fascistic economic policies.

    Their January 6th committee refused to seat members nominated by the Republican minority:  in effect, a fascist court with prosecution but no defense.

    In hearings involving social media, the Republicans argue against censorship, while the Democrats demand ever more censorship.

    The Democrats’ relationship to Big Tech is eerily reminiscent of Goebbels’ wisecrack about how Nazis are smarter than Communists:  they take over industry, he said; we Nazis take over the industrialist.  By all means, keep your monopoly and go on raking in billions — as long as you serve the (Democratic) Party.

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  3. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    And since we know that being vaxxed won’t stop you from getting or spreading COVID, there’s absolutely no point to this.

    I guess I’ll throw a match on the fire. Does the fact that vexed people get COVID equal the assumption that being vaxxed won’t stop you from getting it?

    Yes? I’m confused by your thought processes here.

    Likely my problem. OK, people who are vaxxed get COVID. Granted. Does that mean that vaxxing has no effect on who gets COVID? In other words, do vaxxed people and unvaxxed people have an equal chance of getting COVID?

    I say it doesn’t matter, really. People who are vaxxed get and spread COVID at a significant rate. Maybe not as much as those who are unvaxxed, but still at a significant rate.

    All the measures in the poll, and some folks’ “feelings” against the unvaxxed, are based on the initial claim that those who are vaxxed had a 5% chance of getting infected, and that even those infections wouldn’t raise a viral load sufficient to transmit the disease.

    We now know that’s not the case. So there is literally no justification for mandates, vaccine “passports”, etc.

     

    Vaxed people spread a better more virtuous version of COVID unlike that racist unclean version the unvaxed spread.

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  4. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    @FakeJohnJaneGalt

    Anthony A Velasquez (View Comment):

    I just copied and pasted onto Facebook the percentages you quoted in the opening of your post. Moments later I get the dreaded warning:

     

    So I posted the link to the American Greatness article. 13 minutes later, no Facebook warning. So far so good. I don’t know which is more stupid: the warning or wearing a mask in your car with no passengers.

    Actually I get the masked in the car alone thing.  If I was that stupid do you really want the world to see how stupid you are?

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  5. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    DonG (CAGW is a hoax) (View Comment):

    Now, we all know how societies end up using their cops to shove people into train cars. Half of people are leftists and half of them are fascist commies.

    Perhaps Christopher Browning’s Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland might shed some light on this matter.  

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  6. Western Chauvinist Member
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    Henry Castaigne (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The good news is that overall numbers show that Democrats are turning themselves into a rump party pretty fast at the nationa level

    The bad news is they still steal every election everywhere.

    If we let them. Remember that the vast majority of black Democrats are pretty OK with having an I.D. with you on voting day.

    We should remind them that their votes can be cancelled too by illegal means. Although it’s rare for that to happen from the Right in America. 

    • #36
  7. DaveSchmidt Coolidge
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    I’m not saying these people suddenly found humility to ask forgiveness from the unclean. I’m saying they found a way to forgive themselves.

    They found a way to justify themselves.  

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  8. GlennAmurgis Coolidge
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    @GlennAmurgis

    The left loves it’s gulags 

    • #38
  9. Postmodern Hoplite Coolidge
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    @PostmodernHoplite

    Victor Tango Kilo:

    Second look at a national divorce?

    Interesting…the take-away from your post (as I read it) is the question of whether or not the current “cold civil war” between the Left and Right will result in some form of permanent separation and division within the country? However, nearly the whole thread of comments (up to 30 at the time I’m writing) are all about vaccine efficacy or lack thereof, and how the “Blues” will use the VAX status to strengthen the coercive power of the state. Okay, but so what?

    Is this grounds for pursuing a some constitutional pathway or mechanism for a peaceful division of the country? (@vthek – if I’m wrong on this, please let me know.) 

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  10. Anthony A Velasquez Inactive
    Anthony A Velasquez
    @muzikgeye

    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    Anthony A Velasquez (View Comment):

    I just copied and pasted onto Facebook the percentages you quoted in the opening of your post. Moments later I get the dreaded warning:

     

    So I posted the link to the American Greatness article. 13 minutes later, no Facebook warning. So far so good. I don’t know which is more stupid: the warning or wearing a mask in your car with no passengers.

    Actually I get the masked in the car alone thing. If I was that stupid do you really want the world to see how stupid you are?

    We know the answer to that one, but many people now are shameless, don’t care or clueless.

    • #40
  11. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    @VtheK

    Postmodern Hoplite (View Comment):
    Is this grounds for pursuing a some constitutional pathway or mechanism for a peaceful division of the country? (@vthek – if I’m wrong on this, please let me know.) 

    “Second look at a national divorce?” was more in the spirit of “How can a country this divided stay together?” 

    • #41
  12. Roderic Coolidge
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    Juliana (View Comment):
    Isn’t this how the Final Solution started?

    Yes, it is.  Genocide always begins with the genocidal faction howling about how they are being victimized and oppressed by their future victims.   It was certainly true of Nazi Germany.  Stalin complained about how the kulaks were trying to starve the people before he starved them to death and murdered them.  Pol Pot always accused the people he had killed of being “enemy agents” or “bad elements”.  And on and on.   The complaints of genocidal groups against victims of genocide are usually a pack of lies and exaggerations, just like this time.  

    “Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian,” has been an adage for a long time.  It’s amazing how true that turns out to be when these people imagine themselves to be in duress.  

    • #42
  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    If the “Vaxxed” can still contract the disease, and can still spread it, what is the source of their self-regard about their ”vaxxed” status?

    Sure, if they get it, the symptoms may for them be less severe. May. But if most people, even before the Jabs existed, were either asymptomatic or else had mild symptoms, this seems to be a small difference, a small improvement from being “vaxxed”. Certainly not worthy of all the craziness and hatred directed at the un”vaxxed”.

    If a “vaxxed” Brahmin who is infected, but doesn’t know it because his symptoms are so mild, encounters me, an un”vaxxed” untouchable, and spreads his disease to me, which apparently is just as likely as anything else, why am I the one he and the rest of his Brahmin pals want to drag off to the lock holes? What the hell did I do?

    According to PSAs, it’s proven that the unvaccinated are sick and carriers for life.  (It’s a fact.  I saw it on the Simpsons.)

    • #43
  14. Flicker Coolidge
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    @Flicker

    Stad (View Comment):

    The poll missed one obvious question:

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/hong-kong-hamsters-cull/2022/01/19/id/1052998/

    It starts with lower life forms, but could work its way up the pyramid. Once in the internment camps (the third bullet), it wouldn’t be a stretch to make things simpler and cheaper with mass extermination . . .

    Internment camps for hamsters?  That’s wrong.

    • #44
  15. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    Taras (View Comment):
    The Democrats’ relationship to Big Tech is eerily reminiscent of Goebbels’ wisecrack about how Nazis are smarter than Communists:  they take over industry, he said; we Nazis take over the industrialist.  By all means, keep your monopoly and go on raking in billions — as long as you serve the (Democratic) Party.

    I didn’t know Goebbels had said that.  Thx.

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  16. MWD B612 "Dawg" Member
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    @danok1

    Flicker (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    If the “Vaxxed” can still contract the disease, and can still spread it, what is the source of their self-regard about their ”vaxxed” status?

    Sure, if they get it, the symptoms may for them be less severe. May. But if most people, even before the Jabs existed, were either asymptomatic or else had mild symptoms, this seems to be a small difference, a small improvement from being “vaxxed”. Certainly not worthy of all the craziness and hatred directed at the un”vaxxed”.

    If a “vaxxed” Brahmin who is infected, but doesn’t know it because his symptoms are so mild, encounters me, an un”vaxxed” untouchable, and spreads his disease to me, which apparently is just as likely as anything else, why am I the one he and the rest of his Brahmin pals want to drag off to the lock holes? What the hell did I do?

    According to PSAs, it’s proven that the unvaccinated are sick and carriers for life. (It’s a fact. I saw it on the Simpsons.)

    We should probably make them go around with a bell yelling, “Unclean!”

    • #46
  17. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
    Bryan G. Stephens
    @BryanGStephens

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Juliana (View Comment):
    Isn’t this how the Final Solution started?

    Yes, it is. Genocide always begins with the genocidal faction howling about how they are being victimized and oppressed by their future victims. It was certainly true of Nazi Germany. Stalin complained about how the kulaks were trying to starve the people before he starved them to death and murdered them. Pol Pot always accused the people he had killed of being “enemy agents” or “bad elements”. And on and on. The complaints of genocidal groups against victims of genocide are usually a pack of lies and exaggerations, just like this time.

    “Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian,” has been an adage for a long time. It’s amazing how true that turns out to be when these people imagine themselves to be in duress.

    Cancel Culture is rehearsal for Genocide

    • #47
  18. The Reticulator Member
    The Reticulator
    @TheReticulator

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Roderic (View Comment):

    Juliana (View Comment):
    Isn’t this how the Final Solution started?

    Yes, it is. Genocide always begins with the genocidal faction howling about how they are being victimized and oppressed by their future victims. It was certainly true of Nazi Germany. Stalin complained about how the kulaks were trying to starve the people before he starved them to death and murdered them. Pol Pot always accused the people he had killed of being “enemy agents” or “bad elements”. And on and on. The complaints of genocidal groups against victims of genocide are usually a pack of lies and exaggerations, just like this time.

    “Scratch a Democrat, find a totalitarian,” has been an adage for a long time. It’s amazing how true that turns out to be when these people imagine themselves to be in duress.

    Cancel Culture is rehearsal for Genocide

    You wouldn’t want people to suffer any harm due to the fact of your existence, would you? 

    • #48
  19. kedavis Coolidge
    kedavis
    @kedavis

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    If the “Vaxxed” can still contract the disease, and can still spread it, what is the source of their self-regard about their ”vaxxed” status?

    Sure, if they get it, the symptoms may for them be less severe. May. But if most people, even before the Jabs existed, were either asymptomatic or else had mild symptoms, this seems to be a small difference, a small improvement from being “vaxxed”. Certainly not worthy of all the craziness and hatred directed at the un”vaxxed”.

    If a “vaxxed” Brahmin who is infected, but doesn’t know it because his symptoms are so mild, encounters me, an un”vaxxed” untouchable, and spreads his disease to me, which apparently is just as likely as anything else, why am I the one he and the rest of his Brahmin pals want to drag off to the lock holes? What the hell did I do?

    Made them look bad?

    • #49
  20. Full Size Tabby Member
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    MWD B612 "Dawg" (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    If the “Vaxxed” can still contract the disease, and can still spread it, what is the source of their self-regard about their ”vaxxed” status?

    Sure, if they get it, the symptoms may for them be less severe. May. But if most people, even before the Jabs existed, were either asymptomatic or else had mild symptoms, this seems to be a small difference, a small improvement from being “vaxxed”. Certainly not worthy of all the craziness and hatred directed at the un”vaxxed”.

    If a “vaxxed” Brahmin who is infected, but doesn’t know it because his symptoms are so mild, encounters me, an un”vaxxed” untouchable, and spreads his disease to me, which apparently is just as likely as anything else, why am I the one he and the rest of his Brahmin pals want to drag off to the lock holes? What the hell did I do?

    According to PSAs, it’s proven that the unvaccinated are sick and carriers for life. (It’s a fact. I saw it on the Simpsons.)

    We should probably make them go around with a bell yelling, “Unclean!”

    Some observers have commented seriously in media sources on how much the attitude toward the “unvaccinated (re Covid)” is beginning to resemble the treatment of people with leprosy in times of old and in less-developed parts of the world today. But I guess if you’re willing to put them in concentration camps, I guess ostracizing them from society isn’t any worse. 

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  21. Audacious Member
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    @Audacious

    I was born in 1950 and had parents that always had newspapers, magazines and newspapers as well as books on history around.  I’ve had friends, girlfriends and wive(s) of German heritage.  All these years I’ve had trouble understanding how, really, the horrors of 1933 to 1945 could be perpetrated by the German nation.  I now know and it makes me angry and sad to see it happening here.  Especially for my grandchildren.  Glad I’m 71 and not 21.

    • #51
  22. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    The good news is that overall numbers show that Democrats are turning themselves into a rump party pretty fast at the nationa level

    The bad news is that the schools and universities continue to turn out kids brainwashed into thinking socialism is fine while individual liberty is fascist and equality under the law is racist.

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  23. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    Satiric posters recently appeared on walls in Washington DC:

    • #53
  24. The Reticulator Member
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    @TheReticulator

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):

    Satiric posters recently appeared on walls in Washington DC:

     

    Link doesn’t work.

    • #54
  25. Stad Coolidge
    Stad
    @Stad

    Laura Gadbery (View Comment):

    Wait until they find out much of the workforce they rely on to maintain their cushy lifestyles won’t be around anymore. Unless, of course, we are turned into slave labor.

    I think slave labor is their goal . . .

    • #55
  26. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    Taras (View Comment):
    That the Democrats are becoming a proto-fascist party is, alas, no joke.

    I would maintain that the Democrats are almost entirely there: Totalitarianism is an entirely mainstream “value” in the Democratic Party. Even Democrat voters who I am told are “mainstream” and “reasonable” will condemn as “fascism” and “racism” anything that stands in the way of their far-left agenda. And when was the last time a Democrat spontaneously condemned the far left?

    • #56
  27. Paul Stinchfield Member
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    @PaulStinchfield

    Hoyacon (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    And since we know that being vaxxed won’t stop you from getting or spreading COVID, there’s absolutely no point to this.

    I guess I’ll throw a match on the fire. Does the fact that vaxxed people get COVID equal the assumption that being vaxxed won’t stop you from getting it?

    Well, no: Getting vaxxed does reduce your likelihood of getting it, and reduces the likely severity if you do get it.

    But the fascistic Democrats aren’t just condemning those who claim the vaccines are completely useless: They condemn and silence those who point out that the promise of 100% effectiveness was exaggerated from the start, that possible side-effects were hushed up, that there are possibly useful theraputics, that it is likely that the virus originated in a Chinese lab, that masks are useless, that masks are highly effective, that the need for vaccination should be calculated based on age and other risk factors, and so on.

    • #57
  28. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Well, no: Getting vaxxed does reduce your likelihood of getting it, and reduces the likely severity if you do get it.

    How do we know this? The symptoms of COVID range from “death’s door” to “I have what? I feel fine!” And this is true across a wide age range. A friend of mine in his 80s had it and never had a clue. And then we have people in their 40s die from it. So . . . on what basis can anyone claim that getting vaxxed means you’ll have less severity when the severity of a case is all over the map? Seems like a non-falsifiable claim to me.

    • #58
  29. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Paul Stinchfield (View Comment):
    Well, no: Getting vaxxed does reduce your likelihood of getting it, and reduces the likely severity if you do get it.

    How do we know this? The symptoms of COVID range from “death’s door” to “I have what? I feel fine!” And this is true across a wide age range. A friend of mine in his 80s had it and never had a clue. And then we have people in their 40s die from it. So . . . on what basis can anyone claim that getting vaxxed means you’ll have less severity when the severity of a case is all over the map? Seems like a non-falsifiable claim to me.

    Epidemiologists make such determinations by doing statistical analyses of medical data–which is in fact how much human medical research is done: Behind all those “studies show” news stories are actual medical studies whose results nearly always involve responses to drug therapies that range from “no improvement” to “great improvement”, and which must be compared to control groups of patients which did not receive the treatment.

    • #59
  30. Paul Stinchfield Member
    Paul Stinchfield
    @PaulStinchfield

    The Democratic Party’s attitude towards all dissent:

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