Michigan Democrats: ‘All Your Children Are Belong to Us’

 

Hey, you know how some people refer to public schools as “government schools” and say that their mission isn’t really education, but social indoctrination and enforcing social conformity? And how other people say, “That’s kook talk. Get away from me, you kook! With your crazy kook talk.” Well, the Democrat Party of Michigan has firmly weighed in on the side of the kooks.

“The purpose of a public education is … to teach them what society needs them to know. The client of the public school is not the parent, but the entire community.” But the wealthy and privileged are exempt from this for some reason, according to the Michigan Democratic Party, because they can send their kids to private schools.

I really hope that Governor Whitmer runs for re-election on this theme.

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  1. MiMac Thatcher
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    @MiMac

    The Dems must have a not so secret death wish. We should go with that- the public!- and the public strongly opposes CRT etc. That is why Terry McAwful got trounced in the VA gubernatorial race. He was on track to win until the Loudon Co fiasco & his gaffe (ie accidentally telling what he really thought) about who decides what gets taught.

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  2. Barfly Member
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    MiMac (View Comment):

    The Dems must have a not so secret death wish. We should go with that- the public!- and the public strongly opposes CRT etc. That is why Terry McAwful got trounced in the VA gubernatorial race. He was on track to win until the Loudon Co fiasco & his gaffe (ie accidentally telling what he really thought) about who decides what gets taught.

    They do, but it’s not for their deaths.

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  3. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
    @DrewInWisconsin

    Here’s the problem:

    Average conservative parent: “Oh, that crazy stuff is only taught in other schools, not my child’s school.”

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  4. Bob Thompson Member
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    @BobThompson

    Democrats need to delve a little deeper into their language and their words; “society” is not the same as “government”.

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  5. Nohaaj Coolidge
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    @Nohaaj

    The arrogance of being sure. 

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  6. Sandy Member
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    @Sandy

    In principle the statement is correct. We established public schools in order to provide for an educated citizenry.  This includes above all civic education. Most unfortunately the Left, now broadly in charge, has a radically Leftist understanding of what the content of that civic education should be, but that is where the argument should be engaged. Otherwise we are talking only about negatives when what we want is positive, conservative instruction in history and government. If this seems a hill too high then we have to argue for tearing it all down. 

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  7. Bob Thompson Member
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    @BobThompson

    Other words Democrats are having trouble with are “citizenship”, “criminals”, and “victims”.

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  8. The Scarecrow Thatcher
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    If they want to teach the children what “Society” needs them to know, shouldn’t they be consulting the parents?? Aren’t the parents “Society”?  If they aren’t, who is?

    The teachers theoretically have training or knowledge in a particular specialty – math or biology or whatever.  But to teach the things that will socialize the children in general, how can they accurately know the specifics if they don’t consult “society”?

    Obviously there are others also, but the parents seem to be the obvious place to start, as the students are their children after all. 

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  9. Sandy Member
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    The Scarecrow (View Comment):

    If they want to teach the children what “Society” needs them to know, shouldn’t they be consulting the parents?? Aren’t the parents “Society”? If they aren’t, who is?

    The teachers theoretically have training or knowledge in a particular specialty – math or biology or whatever. But to teach the things that will socialize the children in general, how can they accurately know the specifics if they don’t consult “society”?

    Obviously there are others also, but the parents seem to be the obvious place to start, as the students are their children after all.

    Yes, parents and the entire community.  The non-parent taxpayers, however, are not much interested and tend to assume school hasn’t changed much since 1950, while parents, thinking they are “involved” with their children’s education,  get sucked into the PTA, which is really an arm of the NEA in my opinion.  There they spend a lot of time in meaningless activity and lobbying for more money, and on Left marches. 

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  10. Brian Clendinen Member
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    @BrianClendinen

    This has always been true. What universe have you been living in? There is only one lie in that statement. This is why so many Republicans and Christian kids don’t have their core beliefs. Because they send their Kids to public school instead of taking personal responsibility for their education in all aspects.

    It’s actually refreshing when the Democrats are honest and state their real intentions. The lie in that statement is when they say what society needs what they mean is what Democrat politicians say they need.

    Still its an accurate and fairly truthful statement about their platform, which is rare with Democrats.

    When you want something for free whoever controls the purse strings determines the purpose that money is used for educational purposes. They are mearly pointing that out because taxpayer money is not your money it’s theirs to do with as they please. At least they are not lying about that anymore either.

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  11. EDISONPARKS Member
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    Like the Biden Administration refusing to pivot on any of it’s clusterfeckery, as a conservative (R) I appreciate the current (D) antics and the old adage applies:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.

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  12. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Like the Biden Administration refusing to pivot on any of it’s clusterfeckery as a conservative (R) I appreciate the current (D) antics and the old adage applies:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.

    I keep waiting for that destruction, but the enemy is still standing and still controlling the nation.

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  13. Flicker Coolidge
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    Who are the spokesmen for this society?  Who’s in charge?  The people or the NEA or someone else?

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  14. EDISONPARKS Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Like the Biden Administration refusing to pivot on any of it’s clusterfeckery as a conservative (R) I appreciate the current (D) antics and the old adage applies:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.

    I keep waiting for that destruction, but the enemy is still standing and still controlling the nation.

    You’re probably correct given the Left controls the culture and “politics is downstream of culture”.

    But one has to believe the (D) total control(House and Senate) on the government is likely to be loosened in the 2022 mid terms.

    So maybe damaging himself is more accurate.

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  15. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):
    But one has to believe the (D) total control(House and Senate) on the government is likely to be loosened in the 2022 mid terms.

    Even if the Democrats don’t manage to steal the elections again, I don’t have a lot of faith in Republicans to change the course of the country. Hoping a lot of useless Republicans get primaried.

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  16. Victor Tango Kilo Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Even if the Democrats don’t manage to steal the elections again, I don’t have a lot of faith in Republicans to change the course of the country. Hoping a lot of useless Republicans get primaried.

    The Democrats have so far been very successful in getting gerrymanders to go their way. 

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  17. Bob Thompson Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Even if the Democrats don’t manage to steal the elections again, I don’t have a lot of faith in Republicans to change the course of the country. Hoping a lot of useless Republicans get primaried.

    The Democrats have so far been very successful in getting gerrymanders to go their way.

    What will the Democrats do now that their previously captured minorities are waking up to the deception?

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  18. 9thDistrictNeighbor Member
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    The photograph in the democrat party post is of a school building old enough to have had separate entrances for boys and girls, a display of the Ten Commandments outside of the principals office and class days that began with a prayer.  I’m all for that.

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  19. Fake John/Jane Galt Coolidge
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    It does not matter.  People are too lazy and cheap to send their kids elsewhere so we will have new generations of Democrat voters because to vote other than that is not moral.

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  20. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    Victor Tango Kilo (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):
    Even if the Democrats don’t manage to steal the elections again, I don’t have a lot of faith in Republicans to change the course of the country. Hoping a lot of useless Republicans get primaried.

    The Democrats have so far been very successful in getting gerrymanders to go their way.

    It’s hilarious how the Democrats have managed to convince their drones that Republicans are the gerrymanderers. There’s an anti-gerrymandering sign in the yard on the next block that is definitely a Democrat home.

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  21. Django Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Who are the spokesmen for this society? Who’s in charge? The people or the NEA or someone else?

    Who employs members of the workforce? Back in the 1990s I was hearing about how schools should be preparing students for the “jobs of tomorrow”. I think I remember that coming from almost everyone. So how does CRT and similar nonsense fit in? 

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  22. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf
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    9thDistrictNeighbor (View Comment):

    The photograph in the democrat party post is of a school building old enough to have had separate entrances for boys and girls, a display of the Ten Commandments outside of the principals office and class days that began with a prayer. I’m all for that.

    That’s pretty good propaganda, then. They show you a picture of a school that seems to be promoting the Ten Commandments as an example of “what to teach society’s children” . . . but we know it’s really Deep Greenism, “White Fragility” and the gospel according to Kendi.

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  23. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Django (View Comment):
    Back in the 1990s I was hearing about how schools should be preparing students for the “jobs of tomorrow”. I think I remember that coming from almost everyone. So how does CRT and similar nonsense fit in? 

    Have you seen what an entry level “vice president of of diversity, equity, and inclusion” makes per year?

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  24. Django Member
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    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):
    Back in the 1990s I was hearing about how schools should be preparing students for the “jobs of tomorrow”. I think I remember that coming from almost everyone. So how does CRT and similar nonsense fit in?

    Have you seen what an entry level “vice president of of diversity, equity, and inclusion” makes per year?

    You had to bring it up, didn’t you   ;-)

    Actually, my cynical side almost admires those people. Any fool can make money by working hard. I proved that but raking it in while doing nothing is a great scam if you can pull it off. 

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  25. Flicker Coolidge
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    Fake John/Jane Galt (View Comment):

    It does not matter. People are too lazy and cheap to send their kids elsewhere so we will have new generations of Democrat voters because to vote other than that is not moral.

    Vouchers would solve their laziness and cheapness.

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  26. DrewInWisconsin, Oaf Member
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    @DrewInWisconsin

    Django (View Comment):
    Any fool can make money by working hard.

    Except me, apparently. : /

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  27. Flicker Coolidge
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    Django (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Who are the spokesmen for this society? Who’s in charge? The people or the NEA or someone else?

    Who employs members of the workforce? Back in the 1990s I was hearing about how schools should be preparing students for the “jobs of tomorrow”. I think I remember that coming from almost everyone. So how does CRT and similar nonsense fit in?

    Does jobs for tomorrow include the three Rs and maybe Latin?  Shop?  Auto repair?  STEM prep?  Or are the only jobs they’re shooting for sitting home and waiting for a government check (not that there’s anthing wrong with that), playing on their cell phones and getting their daily dose of condemnation out for people to soak up?

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  28. Django Member
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    Flicker (View Comment):

    Django (View Comment):

    Flicker (View Comment):

    Who are the spokesmen for this society? Who’s in charge? The people or the NEA or someone else?

    Who employs members of the workforce? Back in the 1990s I was hearing about how schools should be preparing students for the “jobs of tomorrow”. I think I remember that coming from almost everyone. So how does CRT and similar nonsense fit in?

    Does jobs for tomorrow include the three Rs and maybe Latin? Shop? Auto repair? STEM prep? Or are the only jobs they’re shooting for sitting home and waiting for a government check (not that there’s anthing wrong with that), playing on their cell phones and getting their daily dose of condemnation out for people to soak up?

    Those poor naive fools back in the 1990s stressed STEM, but also post-secondary education that was NOT college. They wanted more support for what they called “trade schools”, and that probably included auto repair. At the time, people such as Charles Murray and John Derbyshire were saying that no more than 20% of the population was prepared to handle real college work. Actually, Derbyshire said no more than 10%, but he’s always been an old-fashioned elitist. 

    Those ideas got trashed somewhere along the way in favor of dumbing college down so anyone who capable of fogging a mirror could get a degree in something, and yet be unqualified to do anything useful.

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  29. Jim McConnell Member
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    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Like the Biden Administration refusing to pivot on any of it’s clusterfeckery as a conservative (R) I appreciate the current (D) antics and the old adage applies:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.

    I keep waiting for that destruction, but the enemy is still standing and still controlling the nation.

    You’re probably correct given the Left controls the culture and “politics is downstream of culture”.

    But one has to believe the (D) total control(House and Senate) on the government is likely to be loosened in the 2022 mid terms.

    So maybe damaging himself is more accurate.

    And the incumbent president is a great one to have in charge of the process at the moment.

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  30. EDISONPARKS Member
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    @user_54742

    Jim McConnell (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    DrewInWisconsin, Oaf (View Comment):

    EDISONPARKS (View Comment):

    Like the Biden Administration refusing to pivot on any of it’s clusterfeckery as a conservative (R) I appreciate the current (D) antics and the old adage applies:

    Never interfere with an enemy while he’s in the process of destroying himself.

    I keep waiting for that destruction, but the enemy is still standing and still controlling the nation.

    You’re probably correct given the Left controls the culture and “politics is downstream of culture”.

    But one has to believe the (D) total control(House and Senate) on the government is likely to be loosened in the 2022 mid terms.

    So maybe damaging himself is more accurate.

    And the incumbent president is a great one to have in charge of the process at the moment.

    Yes …. Ron Klain is proving to be the worst President in the history of the Republic.

    Joe Biden is simply on display for his political acumen and deft public showmanship:

    Joe Biden Falling GIF - Joe Biden Falling Plane - Discover & Share GIFs

     

     

     

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