Breaking: SCOTUS Shoots Down Biden’s Vax Mandate

 

The Supreme Court on Thursday blocked President Joe Biden’s Covid vaccine mandate for businesses with 100 or more employees. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration rule, which took effect Monday, required employees to get vaccinated, or get tested weekly and wear a mask.

The court ruled 6-3 against the OSHA plan, blocking it from taking effect while other legal challenges play out.

SCOTUS allowed a vaccine mandate for certain health care workers to go into effect. That vote was 5-4, with Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh joining the liberals.

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  1. Bryan G. Stephens Thatcher
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    Interesting. I wonder if Biden will follow it.

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  2. Richard Easton Coolidge
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    We’ve replaced a president who showed too much deference to lower level federal judges making immigration policy for the whole country with a man who has contempt for the Constitution.

     

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  3. WI Con Member
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    I’ll take it. Would have felt better if Roberts would have folded the original order into an airplane and threw it at Biden’s lawyers during opening arguments.

    Curious to find out who these ‘certain other health care workers are’. Are they going to go after CNA’s nurses and operations staff and leave the administrators and HR people alone? What about those with natural immunity? 

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  4. EHerring Coolidge
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    Kavanaugh is trying too hard to prove he isn’t biased. 

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  5. Eb Snider Inactive
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    Welcome news, but sadly may not be the end of this story.

    No doubt heightened attacks on the so called “illegitimate Trump Court” will rev up again. Supreme Court still relies on others to enforce it, so who knows, the actual implementation might be much more messy. I wish is was a clean death of the mandates, but pro-Left activists might figure new counter court cases to some how open the issue back up. Woke companies may continue to fire individuals regardless. The original law allegedly had an exception for regular testing instead of vaccines, however what I heard from friends at companies was the companies were not entertaining that possibility. No testing option in reality offered. The practical result was get covid vaccine or sack your stuff and get out for numerous companies.

    Recent surge of covid infections in fully vaccinated individuals (including my own company) seem to cast serious doubt on the Biden enforcement claim that vaccinated people could not carry or transmit the virus. The vaccines help mitigate effects, but have evidently not proven to be the silver bullet solution that would end this. Probably admin should’ve put more into therapeutics. However, I feel like we’re approaching and inflection point of public opinion shift. The cases of people getting covid who are fully vaccinated is getting noticed broadly. Fortunately I have never felt sick from covid or anything else these last couple years. I received the JJ vaccine which has gotten demonized recently in the USA Today. 

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  6. EHerring Coolidge
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    An unintended consequence of Dem theatrics over Jan 6 is they keep reminding (some) judges that partisanship has reached a tipping point and pushback against government mandates is growing. Now isn’t the time to tolerate federal overreach. 

    The real shock of Jan 6 wasn’t that there was a protest because Dems have not sweated protests when their side aimed them at us. Despite all the bluster about right wing terrorists, they knew our side to be law-abiding. Talk otherwise was a deceptive tactic to attack us. All of a sudden, it became real and they were the targets. Their radicals are doubling down but their moderates aren’t. 

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  7. Full Size Tabby Member
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    Bryan G. Stephens (View Comment):

    Interesting. I wonder if Biden will follow it.

    He’s not following it in spirit as he immediately belittled the Supreme Court and continued bullying those who disagree with him. https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-biden-urges-businesses-to-institute-vaccination-requirements-after-supreme-court-blow

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    Of course he is also continuing to bully social media companies into preventing discussion of ideas and information that contradicts the Administration’s dictates. https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-calls-for-social-media-censorship-on-virus-deal-with-the-misinformation-and-disinformation

     

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  8. Tikhon Olmstead Coolidge
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    WI Con (View Comment):

    I’ll take it. Would have felt better if Roberts would have folded the original order into an airplane and threw it at Biden’s lawyers during opening arguments.

    Curious to find out who these ‘certain other health care workers are’. Are they going to go after CNA’s nurses and operations staff and leave the administrators and HR people alone? What about those with natural immunity?

    Any healthcare facility or people who take Medicare or Medicaid moneys, but I don’t know the nitty gritty details. 

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  9. Manny Member
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    It’s good to have conservative justices. Tell me again why it would have been better if Hilary had won?

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  10. WI Con Member
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    Tikhon Olmstead (View Comment):

    WI Con (View Comment):

    I’ll take it. Would have felt better if Roberts would have folded the original order into an airplane and threw it at Biden’s lawyers during opening arguments.

    Curious to find out who these ‘certain other health care workers are’. Are they going to go after CNA’s nurses and operations staff and leave the administrators and HR people alone? What about those with natural immunity?

    Any healthcare facility or people who take Medicare or Medicaid moneys, but I don’t know the nitty gritty details.

    So pretty much any health care facility. 

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  11. Full Size Tabby Member
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    I still don’t understand the rationale for a Covid vaccine mandate “to protect others” or to make a workplace “safer” for other workers and customers. Whether one person is vaccinated has no meaningful effect on whether another person gets Covid or the severity of another person’s Covid. Yet the President, other Administration officials, and many institutional bosses keep saying that a vaccine mandate is critical to maintaining the health of others. How? The only specific benefit to the Covid vaccine that scientists and doctors cite is that people who have received the vaccine have a lower risk of very serious illness or of death. But vaccinated people can still get the disease and can still spread the virus to others. So, it makes no difference to others whether any particular person is vaccinated, and thus the “to protect others” justification for a vaccine mandate is not true.

    The community risk of the seriously ill overrunning hospital capacity has already been shown to be limited, localized, and transitory, and thus not appropriate justification for widespread vaccine mandates.

    Furthermore, for huge portions of the American population the risks of serious illness or of death from Covid are so tiny that it is entirely reasonable for those people to decide not to undertake the also tiny risks of the vaccine. 

    A vaccine mandate does not protect others, and so there is no practical (let alone legal) justification for vaccine mandates.  

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  12. Manny Member
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    Full Size Tabby (View Comment):
    Whether one person is vaccinated has no meaningful effect on whether another person gets Covid or the severity of another person’s Covid. Yet the President, other Administration officials, and many institutional bosses keep saying that a vaccine mandate is critical to maintaining the health of others. How?

    At one time the theory held that the vaccine could either eliminate transmission because you wouldn’t get the virus.  In time that was proven wrong.  It was also theorized that if you were vaccinated your ability to be contagious is much shorter.  That may still be true, but it’s probably in the realm of hours less rather than days less, so it’s probably not that big a factor.  In fairness to the experts – and I believe there are good and honest experts out there – we are learning as we go.  Unfortunately the politics get stuck in the mud and don’t evolve along with the theories.  

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